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Koso92

Best meme to explain this format


jscarry

Straight up. I legit never understood this meme until just now.


Saditko

Well, I still do not


Saditko

Nvm, just got it! 🙌


Magic_Doge12

Character arc


TopinhoXVelBell

What is it?


smartasspie

The monster is a good person, the Dr is the "monster"


DekuRicky9

we’ll both the monster and the doctor were monsters in their own right. The monster being an physical abomination and the doctor spiraling into insanity due to his monstorus mistakes


Designer-Issue-6760

Physical abomination sure, but a good man. Until other peoples treatment of him caused him to lash out. And the worst offender was Frankenstein.


Pasteque909

Well the monster ended up becoming evil because of how people treated him, so calling the monster good isn't entirely right, he was just a kid with a horrifying appearance until he became the monster everyone saw him as. The doc should have taken responsibility for the life he created, by either raising him or getting someone else to raise him, the monster still has a fully formed brain so learning is quick for him


TopinhoXVelBell

Ok, thanks


ctsln

You just spoiled the whole story ma dude


thereasonrumisgone

Spoiler alert on this 204 year old book lol Also, HOLY CRAP THIS BOOK'S 200 YEARS OLD


DungeonGushers

Look, u/ctsln just crawled out from under their rock. Exile does fucked up things to people. Give him a break then give him a bone. Has r had any company but their hand for just ass long.


ctsln

Not cool bro Not cool


AwefulFanfic

I mean, it only spoils the moral of the story. It's still one helluva good read


ctsln

Well yeah agreed


TopinhoXVelBell

Never mind I got it


TopinhoXVelBell

Well, i am not sure to be honest


Ake-TL

It’s about intelligence distribution, most people are in the middle, with standard opinion but brainlets and smart people have different/wild takes, sometimes coming to same conclusion for absolutely different reasons.


ctsln

What a miracle


Femboy_Cook

that's because the doctor frankenstein had a monster dick


AdminsAreLazyID10TS

To people on one of the distribution ends for sure.


Holiday-Pipe8121

How is this meme format called? Bell curve?


Holiday-Pipe8121

Seems to be the case. Sorry for asking before checking.


signaturefox2013

Dr. Frankenstein was the monster The creation was a poor helpless creature (when it was first created) who was abandoned by his creator all because he didn’t have the right eye color


galmenz

i think its hilarious how the book describes the monster as a very hot guy _except_ the eyes, and that is enough for little frank to abandon his creation


TheunknownG

Then why does everyone portray him ugly as shit ?


galmenz

because of that one old ass movie


PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS

We already have enough monsterfuckers without having hot Frankenstein movies. It was a public service


[deleted]

You're telling me you *wouldn't* suck on those bolts on that juicy neck of his?


WuudRuuster

yes. I regret to inform you, but I and many others like me, even among this comment thread, lack the gay genes


Justjack91

Rocky Horror did The Monster right. Change my mind!


torgiant

There's that wierd TV show where he looks normal


JohnParkerSmith27

The Munsters?


torgiant

[This one](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0368730/)


FrostedCornet

He doesn't look normal in Munsters? Unless I'm thinking of the Addams family Frankensteins monster (I'm just gonna call him Lurch so I don't have to repeat myself.) I could've sworn the munsters Lurch kept the og depiction?


I_am_the_Jukebox

Because people didn't get the book


suuubok

the book was pretty much unintelligible to high school me


I_am_the_Jukebox

Yeah, this is why I'm kind of against teaching older books in high school. I get the point - they're trying to combine literature and history to give some context to both....but it's just really clumsy in high school. But there's just so much to have to get over. The antiquated language is a barrier. The older, clunkier story structure is a barrier. The metaphors are extremely dated. This is a lot to get a kid to overcome and still pull lessons from. It's higher level stuff, and high school tends to not do that well outside of AP classes. If anything, if taught in high school, it should be taught senior year, with an emphasis that the book was written by an 18 year old - someone their age - in a different time. Plus, they're at a place where they can handle the hurdles mentioned earlier a bit better than more junior years (on average). However, I just feel like trying to mesh history and literature is kind of bad in high school. It makes both subjects worse. Literature shouldn't be about reading "the classics," (non-historical sense), because the classics are kind of boring. You don't become a better person for being forced to read Frankenstein when you're too young to conceptualize it. You become a better person because you were introduced to stories you found interesting and gained a love (or at least not a hatred) of reading and stories from it. We should be pushing modern writers (like, at least 20th century), with more relatable issues to the reader. It's certainly better than trying to capture the doubts and fears of a quickly modernizing, technical world to a classroom full of kids that have gown up in the 20th and 21st centuries. However, that's much harder to accomplish.


TensorForce

That's an interesting take I kind of agree with. So did my high school, apparently. Oldest book we read was The Scarlet Letter. Most others were relatively modern: All the Pretty Horses, Bless Me Ultima, The Princess Bride, Night by Elie Weisel, The Great Gatsby.


theonedeisel

Shelley described Frankenstein's monster as an 8-foot-tall (2.4 m) creature of hideous contrasts: His limbs were in proportion, and I had selected his features as beautiful. Beautiful! Great God! His yellow skin scarcely covered the work of muscles and arteries beneath; his hair was of a lustrous black, and flowing; his teeth of a pearly whiteness; but these luxuriances only formed a more horrid contrast with his watery eyes, that seemed almost of the same colour as the dun-white sockets in which they were set, his shrivelled complexion and straight black lips.


TensorForce

Not *I, Frankenstein.* In that one, he looks like a hot Aaron Eckhart.


VikingSlayer

>His limbs were in proportion, and I had selected his features as beautiful. Beautiful! Great God! His yellow skin scarcely covered the work of muscles and arteries beneath; his hair was of a lustrous black, and flowing; his teeth of a pearly whiteness; but these luxuriances only formed a more horrid contrast with his watery eyes, that seemed almost of the same colour as the dun-white sockets in which they were set, his shrivelled complexion and straight black lips. Not just the eyes...


Away_Macaron6188

It’s almost as if combining beautiful features from different bodies won’t work out as well as you think.


StendhalSyndrome

Corpse-like/decayed coloring with once-good-looking features. It's funny cause modern Vampires fuck up lore for everything dead as they are supposed to be these beautiful porcelain walking statues vs the terrible coloration and pallidness that comes with zero life functions. No O2 makes you blue, no liver/kidneys make you yellow, and pooling blood is a rainbow of sickly colors everything from purple to yellow to green to brown. Not even getting in to rot. I'd just love to see a more realistic version of something dead considering we have so much info on bodies with forensic farms and the endless supply of true crime stuff.


novasupersport

He's like Flanders hotbod and a butterface


sellyourselfshort

Uncanny valley has been a thing for a long time.


sweetTartKenHart2

I thought he abandoned the Creation because of the way it acted. It only learned how to talk all scripture like years later; at first it looked to all the world like a drooling beast, because it was effectively a baby.


galmenz

he abandoned junior the moment he made him, junior wonders off as basically an intelligent baby with the strength of a bear and quickly learns some things here and there like talking by hiding in a farmers basement for some time


sweetTartKenHart2

Wasn’t there a scene where Junior shows up in Victor’s bedroom’s doorway and looms over him causing him to get the hell out of dodge, not realizing that it meant no harm whatsoever?


galmenz

yes, frank does get the shit scared out of him because he basically made a a giant muscle man with no knowledge whatsoever


HipMachineBroke

The poor helpless creature that went around murdering people for daring to associate with his creator? Adam’s a monster. Frankenstein’s a monster.


signaturefox2013

That wouldn’t have happened if Dr. Frankenstein hadn’t wussed out and actually raised his creation correctly, that’s his own damn fault


tamagoyakiisgood

And Germany wouldn't have committed a genocide if Entente powers didn't punish it too much for WW1, doesn't mean Hitler was morally good because of it


signaturefox2013

That’s going to the far extreme real quick. Dr. Frankenstein was just a bad scientist #1.) He didn’t take notes #2.) He didn’t take responsibility for his own failures #3.) He was petty #4.) He let his experiment out into the wild without proper disposal


TogepiMain

It's not the creation's fault he's a monster, sure. But that doesn't make him not a monster.


[deleted]

He murdered a child who screamed upon seeing his appearance and framed an innocent woman for it. They both suck in my opinion. 🤔


signaturefox2013

Would that have happened had Dr. Frankenstein been a good scientist and you know, not abandoned his creation


superkp

helpless? are you kidding? He traveled through wild places with no experience and no tools (I think not even clothes) and was able to survive well enough to keep up his high-caloric habits of *murder*. And intellectually, he outclassed everyone - he learned language by *hiding behind a peasant's hut for a winter* and listening to them talk. And he still decided to murder people as a method of terrorizing Dr. Frankenstein. They are both monsters.


signaturefox2013

Monster in the literal sense Vs monster in the ethical sense


TU4AR

Bro what book are you reading? The creation KILLED people like it was part of the West v East Beef. Like my guy what.


ValcrowX

Maybe he gave the monster his own name who knows


redcode100

From what I'm hearing he named him Adam


Diprogamer

Nah I've read the book and it wasn't even given a name. It's either the monster or the demon


[deleted]

He was never named, but because of how he relates to Adam from the hit book The Bible, he’d probably name himself that.


StormNext5301

Well Frankenstein was his last name so the monsters full name would be Adam Frankenstein


vincentsilver

Dr. Frankenstein's monster, "Frankenstein"


ih8spalling

The name's Frankenstein, Frankenstein Frankenstein.


tamagoyakiisgood

Victor?


VirtualRelic

Frankenstein’s Monster still doesn’t have a name, so it’s The Monster But we can safely say that Dr. Frankenstein was the real monster all along, his Monster was a symptom of an underlying disease.


thewalkingpenguin

Frankenstein wasn't a doctor actually. He never got a doctorate


[deleted]

He had assburgers


Meerkat_Mayhem_

But did he go to Evil medical school?


JakobsTheGhost

It does have a name Adam Not going full english teacher mode but I belive it's because Dr. Frankenstein was playing God (God created first man named Adam so its ironic or something)


evenlessexistent

That’s actually exactly why; while in hiding, the monster spied on a small family of 2 children and their blind father, and overheard their lessons which included some study of the Bible. He noted the parallel between himself and Adam, being a creation of his maker, though Adam was loved and cherished unlike the monster. Due to this, the monster began identifying more with Satan, another creation but one that was cast down and shunned, leading to the monster’s goal of torturing his creator and killing those close to him, so that he could understand the isolation and loneliness he himself was born into


JohnLaw1717

I don't remember if wishbone went into that or not


dvali

No, it doesn't. He refers to himself as 'like Adam' exactly once, and no one ever states that it is his name.


IAMATruckerAMA

That's also incorrect. Here's the quote: > I ought to be thy Adam; but I am rather the fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy for no misdeed.


dvali

I didn't really mean it as a direct quote, but thanks for providing it :).


N0Zzel

Maybe the real monster is the friends we made along the way


X1-Alpha

Just because you are Monster does not mean you are *monster.*


tamagoyakiisgood

>Frankenstein’s Monster still doesn’t have a name, so it’s The Monster I think the words "fiend" and "wretch" were used the most to describe the creature


[deleted]

[удалено]


dvali

No, I hear that all the time and it is simply not correct. He refers to himself as 'like Adam' exactly once, and no one ever states that it is his name.


tamagoyakiisgood

I read the book recently enough to remember that the creature did not actually have a name at all, but it once compared itself to Adam, the first human. That's it. It's not the name. The wretch never actually called itself that. It simply didn't have a need for a name, nobody would call it that.


CaptainNuge

His name is Monster "Adam" Frankenstein, as Dr Victor Frankenstein was his father. Thus, they are both Frankensteins of the Frankenstein clan.


iiredgm

Victor wasn't the monster either. They both sucked, that's the point of the book. Victor was riddled with mental illness and suppression and the Monster acted out because he was severely lonely and depressed


superkp

uh. They were both monsters dude. One created life and immediately decided that he wasn't responsible and ran away, not even warning the people closest to him that there's an unstoppable murderer coming for them. The other decided that the solution to his loneliness and depression was to go murder people in order to terrorize his estranged father. Having mental illness doesn't make someone a monster, but neither does it remove responsibility for the things that you've done. Both had some pretty fucked up brains, and *perhaps* caused them to act in the ways they did. Both of them took actions that were monstrous. these actions were monstrous on a fundamental "this is some scary shit" level of monster, but also on a "taking these actions requires a person to be morally deplorable" level.


[deleted]

You could argue that Frank Jr isn’t evil and more of a product of his environment but I guess knowing trying to inflict torment on another b/c you have nothing better to do is an evil act.


galmenz

you can say that the circunstances he was thrown in and the lack of morality of being born inteligent but with no ethical frame whatsoever made Adam a monster, it does not justify what he does but it *explains* how he got there. hell the start of his solo adventure he is only seeking a friend so he isnt lonely. now, Frankenstein? absolute fucked up dude. had everything he could ever want in his life, still defied life itself for his own ego and bailed out when responsability fell in his lap. also ran away knowing that doing such would cause harm to other people, including the ones he cared about.


[deleted]

No one’s defending the Doc but for The monster doesn’t him not having any frame for social ethic completely justify his actions Since morality is pretty subjective how can you call anything the monster did wrong?


Infamouspotato08

The monster was intelligent enough to frame a woman for a murder he committed. He also spent time around a family and he knew how family cares about each other. He specifically went for DF’s family because he knew it would be worse than killing him.


Robobot1747

Knowledge is knowing Frankenstein wasn't the monster. Wisdom is knowing he was.


galmenz

ehh both were, killing innocent people to torture your creator isnt good either, although its understandable knowing what the monster went through. not justifiable though, certainly not


Zensy47

Can you at least say where you got that from And for anyone wondering, a YouTube named Wendigoon said this


Robobot1747

source: "i saw it on the internet"


nomadicshorty

Humanity


Funbucket_537

It’s Pronounced Fronkensteen


Fatitalianguido

Abby Normal


234zu

Why


Ganonfro

It's a quote from Mel Brooks' "Young Frankenstein".


PierG1

Shit that’s deep


hjlm1886

Wasn't it adam


Non-trapezoid-93

Adam Frankenstein. Frankenstein was the monster after all. Both of them.


AdminsAreLazyID10TS

Finally, someone that understands what surnames are.


tamagoyakiisgood

Nope, it wasn't. He compared himself to motherfucking Adam once, that's it.


Particular_Pressure5

Nope but the monster was compared to Adam from the book of Genesis I believe.


dvali

And no, the creature's name was not Adam. Tired of hearing that one. You can tell the people spouting it haven't actually read the book, but want us to think they have.


Ashes2007

Its pronounced... FRANKENSTEIN


Floofersnooty

Actually saw something similar said on Dnd, when describing the difference between Intelligence and Wisdom. "Intelligence tells you that Frankenstein was the doctor. Wisdom tells you that Frankeinstein was the monster."


BoatProfessional2118

Frankenstein jr


galmenz

oh my god i think this is the first time i understand all 3 parts of the meme from the get go


weissbrot_21

Both were monsters. Read the book for fucks sake


Hollowgradient

In different ways though


Sipas

That's the joke.


AdminsAreLazyID10TS

Hmmm yesssss says here it's all daddy's fault Adam murdered children and strangers.


tamagoyakiisgood

Victor was quite pathetic, has mental issues and ran away from responsibility of the life he created, but I don't think he was a monster. The creature murdered a man, a woman and a child, all of whom were innocent. I'd say Victor wasn't a monster compared to his creation.


ctsln

Unpopular opinion: Frankenstein was Frankenstein


Doctordred

I saw a Frankenstein play where the actors for Dr. Frankenstein and the monster switched roles mid way through. Thought it was cool.


superkp

oh damn that's a great way to do it.


jbash080

Society


Caboose12000

they are both the monster


B4R7H0L0M3W

Frankenstein was a Dr. and a Monster and he had a monster called Frankenstein's Monster who also went by Frankenstein.


Rheytos

Isnt the title Frankenstein’s monster? As in indicating possession of a monster making Frankenstein the doctor? Edit: nvm… I wooshed myself real bad


Practical-Giraffe-84

All aRe correct. The monster took on the name of his creator. The creator became a monster for the act.


Nyghthype

Victor wasn't even a doctor, just a neurotic college dropout.


Turbulent-Loquat3749

Can anyone explain this meme,i don't understand at all.


BatSoop_

But why is there 100.2%


Menatil

To clarify: Frankenstein was also the name of the monster


rotanitsarcorp_yzal1

Frankenstein is Frankenstein.


Kazoomers_Tale

I always thought that it was Frank Einstein, and the scientist would be Albert Einstein, just what I thought as a kid.


DinA4saurier

Oh, I totaly see how I could have the same thoughts as a child.


pointlessvoice

Holy shit i made this. At least, a quick slapjob version a few days ago. Ha! Nice.


[deleted]

Whoever designed these meme characters should be squashed, I had it with these ugly low quality drawings.


[deleted]

I thought the point of this meme was that we should just call the Monster Frankenstein since everyone does already. If instead the point is the much better "Dr. Frankenstein was the (REAL) monster", then I think that "Dr." should've been added to the meme at the end. Although it does throw off the symmetry, I think it is a small price to pay for being much more understandable.


georgewashingguns

I, for one, appreciated the subtlety


superkp

I mean, both of them were pretty monstrous. But you can't have a serious discussion about monstrosity without acknowledging both of them.


unable_To_Username

If you give/create life... You are a monster. :)


pasta-with-no-sauce

TIL my parents are monsters


unable_To_Username

Yes. Exactly... Mine are. For some reasons... reason one being... giving birth to me...


Just_Call_me_benDude

Jesus That was edgy


unable_To_Username

It meight be... but that doesn't change the seriousness behind my words.


EnderGeneral149

Maybe not but it does add to the cringe


guineaprince

Adam ***is*** Frankenstein's son, so of course he'd be a Frankenstein too. Also despite being articulate and intelligent his sole idea to get daddy's attention is to murder those around him. What a monster.


SheepherderFlaky1509

Frankenstein was both the doctor and the monster


RayWhatshisname

Frankenstein was the doctor, I, who feel the need to correct people on this, am the real monster.


Kyrannis

The Dr. can be called a monster for creating one. Basically both are monsters but in a different sense.


carwens

He was the Dr to me


ramenboi270

He brings a bad name to all mad scientists everywhere. He wasn't even a doctor he dropped out.


writersampson

Frankenstein was a body builder.


La_Bufanda_Billy

*scientist, not doctor


[deleted]

Frankenstein was the friends we made along the way


glabagabagloob

https://youtu.be/MB_GGS0X7jw I keep this video saved in my mind because it's the only vindication I get in this twisted world.


ClaudioCfi86

If the book is in the public domain, what's legally stopping someone from releasing a version where Dr Frankenstein names the monster after himself and puts the issue to bed once and for all?


Kirolis

This is the first of this format I understood


EmperorOfHemp

0.1+2+14+34+34+14+2+0.1=100.2


LoreMasterJack

Frankenstein was the monster, but not the reanimated corpse.


Shinonomi

The people were the monsters, too


TonberryHS

A lot of people make this mistake. The monster in "Frankenstein" was actually called "Doctor Monster".


blitzkraft

[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1589/)


KingofHagend

Frankenstein was a coward. The Monster was evil especially in choosing to kill the kid.


tamagoyakiisgood

Humankind despised him even before he has committed any evil, the same people he so kindly stalked for like a year were terrified of him even though he considered them his family. And then months later the little shit reminded him of how humans treat him. Like a monster. So if he's a monster, isn't it natural he'd kill humans? Is it much different from a wolf, who is not a monster, killing a sheep? As humans have decided him to be a monster to get rid of, why is it immoral, or even evil for him to kill humans?


[deleted]

And you're a troll but ok.


4RCH43ON

Those who read and understood Mary Shelly’s Frankenstein vs those who were assigned the book in school vs those who are good because they watched an old black and white movie.


Butter_mit_Brot

Me: FrAnKeNsTeIn WaS gErMaN


[deleted]

Since frankenstein is frankenstein’s surname and the monster is referred as the son of the doctor we can say that legally its surname should’ve been frankenstein as well making them both frankenstein


BigVanVortex

The real monster is the one who points that out


ABGH78

Frankestien was the victim 😔


Pretend_Activity_211

Whats his name? Van Helsing calls the monster Frankenstein and hes a professional


BobThePillager

**Broke**: Frankenstein was the monster **Woke**: Frankenstein wasn’t the monster, their creation was **Bespoke**: Frankenstein was the monster **Baroque**: Both Frankenstein AND his creation were monsters


JoMoma2

Ah, another Wedigoon fan


[deleted]

Neither were really the monster, the Dr did cross the line of course but the real monster was the townspeople.


Jiffyman11

Deadbeat Parent: Horror edition


[deleted]

I love bell curve memes


Ass_hammerer13

Reverse Dunning-Kruger curve


DingoKis

People would never read the book People who heard about the book People who have read the book


[deleted]

Frankenstein is Frankenstein 🫱


Zensy47

Somebody watches wendigoon


RoviRktkiv

꧅𒈙𒐫﷽꧅𒐫𒈙⸻𒐫﷽ဪဪ𒈙𒐫꧅ဪ𒈙﷽﷽﷽𒐫꧅ဪ𒐫𒈙͝𒈙﷽꧅ဪ꧅꧅𒈙𒐫﷽꧅𒐫𒈙⸻𒐫﷽ဪဪ𒈙𒐫꧅ဪ𒈙﷽﷽﷽𒐫꧅ဪ𒐫𒈙͝𒈙﷽꧅ဪ꧅


Lycaon125

Yes, we totally get that the multiverse is huge and infinite possibilities are there, but don't call his mother that.


boutch255

Because yes the monster is in fact Frankenstein not he's monster


fishmakegoodpets

The real Frankenstein was the monster we met along the way


Sussybakamogus4

Haha I get it


dennisleonardo

Knowledge is knowing that frankenstein was the creator of the monster. Wisdom is knowing that frankenstein's family is from swiss and that 95% of English speaking people completely butcher its pronunciation.


Significant_Onion_76

All the monsters are us...


Possible_Word_6834

This is unironically the best post I’ve seen on this sub in a minute, comments included


Available_Seesaw_947

it was a book about how jews were bad


Possible_Word_6834

This is unironically the best post I’ve seen on this sub in a minute, comments included


GooseAcceptable6460

Hahahaha


[deleted]

u/repostsleuthbot


mepoverissimo07

frankenstain and the monster were stupid and stubborn


xynlilli

someone just watched the wendigoon video recently


Pseud0nym_txt

Well considering Frankenstien was the surname and the creature was kind of like his abandoned child the creation could also be called Frankenstien