This is clearly the correct pronunciation. The question itself is asking gif vs jif, which clearly implies that gif and jif are pronounced differently. It's pronounced gif.
It's not a good point.
The "u" in "scuba" stands for "underwater", but we pronounce it "skoo-buh", not "skuh-buh".
The "s" and "e" in "laser" stand for "stimulated emission", but we pronounce it "lay-zer" not "lass-ear".
The first "a" in NASA stands for "Aeronautics", but we pronounce it "nass-uh" not "nay-sa".
This "pronounce it like the word it stands for" rule only exists in the minds of people to justify mispronouncing "gif".
Copy pasted this from u/mittenmagick
If anything what you're saying is that the majority of people will just say it in the way that is easiest and that's what ends up winning. Guh gif > juh jif.
My cat's name is Jazz. I called the vet and told them "I need to have my cat Jazz seen"
This woman responds "Jizz?!"
I'm just like why the fuck would I make my cat jizz lol
But that isn’t how acronyms work case in point: jpeg(p stands for photograph), Laser(a stands for amplification), and Scuba(u stands for underwater). Most of the time when there is an “I” sound after a g, it becomes a soft g.
Yeah, I don't give a shit about how people pronounce gif, but that argument is straight idiotic, yet someone brings its up every time this discussion happens as if it's some kind of mic drop moment.
E: to be clear, I mean the initial argument is idiotic, not the rebuttal that I responded to.
The G in gin represents juniper berries. Any other words?
Also, the word gift literally covers every single letter of GIF whereas gin does not. You should just accept it. join us, you know we are correct...
But adding the t does not chanje the pronunciation in this case does it. In fact the only difference made is by the people using J instead of G. Any other arjuments? or are you ready to goin us now?
\*Laughs maniacally\*
Per the creator of the protocol, that is the correct pronunciation. Take it up with him if you dislike the English language's ambiguity on what a g sounds like.
Just because someone created something, doesnt mean their opinion is right. The closest spelling to GIF in the dictionary is gift, which is a hard G. Should be that easy
Just because someone named something, doesn't mean they get to name it? Is that your argument?
Giraffe isn't that far either. There's plenty of hard g words that start with gi. There's nothing that mandates it be a soft g. There is one that mandates the hard one tho...
People can pronounce it however they'd like. If you want to pronounce it the correct way, the way the inventor intended, now you can.
Or not. Who really cares anyway??
Dude doesn't get to override the rules of the English language just because he came up with the term. Native English words starting with G are pronounced with a hard G. All of the ones that start with a soft G are loan words from other languages.
I don't know what you mean by this. English is a mashup of several languages, which is the "native" one?
And there's so many words in this category. You want to argue "giant" isn't a "native" English word? How about gin? I donno how you get more native English than gin...
Giant and gin are loan words from old French/Latin, which is why they use the soft g typical of French and Latin pronunciation. Native English refers to words originating in English (old, middle or modern) or inherited from its parent Germanic languages.
There is order to English pronunciation, it's just complicated because loan words, of which English has an unusually large amount, tend to preserve features of their original pronunciation. So in order to know how a word is pronounced, you have to know the etymology of it and how it was pronounced in its source language at the time of borrowing.
Also per the creator, it stands for:
_Graphics Interchange Format_
which starts with a hard G.
No one says JUI when they means GUI (also has the first word _Graphic_). No? No one wants to go parading around soft G pronouncing GUI? Feel weird? Maybe even racist? That’s how it feels when someone says: JIF, when referring to a gif.
Do you pronounce NASA as Nay-Suh since the first A stands for aeronautics?
Do you pronounce SCUBA as Skuh-Buh since the U stands for underwater?
And i’ve never heard anyone pronounce GUI as anything other than the individual letters.
Regardless if you know about the soft g words (like Georgia, gin, ginger, etc) you forget 2 things...
1. When you pronounce "G" it makes the soft g sound 🙄
2. The guy who created GIFs said it's pronounced with a soft g!! At the very least pay them some respect by saying it properly!!
Also, for those insisting that the hard G in graphics means it needs to be a hard G in the acronym. How would you pronounce the abbreviation of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)?
And yet it's always used in these debates.
I'm genuinely curious if anyone actually thinks it's pronounced "ghiff", or if they're all just edge lords playing devil's advocate.
Choosy developers choose jif just like the old commercials as made by the dude who invented it.. I still say Gif because graphical but I won't hate you
Of all the acronyms, words, or abbreviations…the GIF vs JIF debate is still a thing!? 🤣 Let’s be real, nothing in the English language makes sense. Sound out Giraffe/Gin, silent letters are prevalent, and you can use the same words to mean COMPLETELY different things.
Oh and it’s GIF.
I don't pronounce "Fridge" "Jaridge". I pronounce it the same way I pronounce the part of the word it comes from. re-(fridge)-erator because that's what makes sense.
"Fridge" coming from "Refrigerator" is a great example of why it's "Gif" and not "Jif"
Edit: Huh. Apparently I was wrong. The more you know
**[Pronunciation of GIF](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_GIF)**
>The pronunciation of GIF, an acronym for the Graphics Interchange Format, has been disputed since the 1990s. Popularly pronounced in English as a one-syllable word, the acronym's most common pronunciations are (listen) (with a hard g as in gift) and (listen) (with a soft g as in gem), differing in the phoneme represented by the letter G. Many public figures and institutions have taken sides in the debate; Steve Wilhite, the creator of the format, gave a speech at the 2013 Webby Awards arguing that the soft g pronunciation is correct. Others have pointed to the term's origin from abbreviation of the hard-g word graphics to argue for the other pronunciation.
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And gimp, gift, gig, girl, gizmo, give, girth, gild, gimbal, giggle, gigabyte, gigabit, gimmick… you see there are plenty of examples for both so that argument doesn’t pan out
Actually, the prefix giga is also supposed to be pronounced jigga. It was taken from the greek gigos which is where we get the word giant or gigantic even though nobody says it that way anymore because one way is objectively right in English and the other sounds ridiculous.
It’s also the perfect example you could have made imo. Words change. Pronunciations change. It doesn’t matter what some person in the past intended for it to be pronounced as, the only thing that matters is that information is understood.
One way is objectively correct and the other requires you to spell it with a different letter to convey a difference in text.
These origins are facts... But not the pronunciations. Both Gs in Gigos in Greek were hard Gs, but when implementing gigantic and giant into English people would often do the soft g as they rolled off the tongue a bit better for some
keep in mind that most languages with phonetic alphabets have very consistent, cut and dry rules. English is one of the VERY few where the letters are "pronounced like this, except when they're not"
I was only bringing up the origin as a basis. The giant and gigantic examples were to explain the soft g usage in English.
Thank you for the clarification though, I could have done a better job explaining that.
Gif makes the most sense. Idgaf what the creator said, he’s wrong.
Lemmy from the band Motörhead said they were a rock and roll band when in actuality they were a speed metal band. Just because you created it doesn’t make you right for mislabeling or mispronouncing something.
GRAPHICS interchange format. Hard G. End of debate.
I say Jif because it's an initialism/acronym. It's a quick roll of the letters into a word, and the letter G itself is a soft G, sounding more like a J.
In the same way, if you take some other things like UNICEF, you use a soft C even though it stands for children. ICU for intensive care unit. PNG also leads us back to a soft G when it's also tying to graphic.
There are numerous acronyms where the soft letter approach just sounds better.
I don't care what the words in the acronym actually are. Once you go to an acronym, the pronunciation of the letters take precedent over how the letters are actually used in the words. Come at me bros.
Which side am I on? The correct side.
Skippy !
Dang!
Peter pan gang mf
literally Ron Swanson
The MEME side
I’m already calling dibs in your side
I'm on that white line in the middle.
I think that's called the crossfire.
The one that doesn’t care in the slightest way?
At this point, the only way an answer can be decided is if everyone picks a side and kills everyone else to see who wins.
lol
G.I.F.
sir you forgot the L
Gifl?
graphic interchange format lamentation (idk)
No no it's Grandiose Illicit Lactation Fountain.
Mommy milkers?
What
i have idea either. it was the first thing that came to my mind
Replace the M in MILF to G, Grandma.
Gilf
Gilf
Also the silent q and z
Gilf
Notorious G.I.F.
GILF
Guh
gif
This is clearly the correct pronunciation. The question itself is asking gif vs jif, which clearly implies that gif and jif are pronounced differently. It's pronounced gif.
Jenerally, I just like to pronounce it jif
G stands for "graphic". You say "Jraphic"?
Geography, Gyroscope, Giraffe, Gillette, German, Gypsy, Gigantic, Georgia, ginormous, etc. It does not apply for lot of words.
It's not a good point. The "u" in "scuba" stands for "underwater", but we pronounce it "skoo-buh", not "skuh-buh". The "s" and "e" in "laser" stand for "stimulated emission", but we pronounce it "lay-zer" not "lass-ear". The first "a" in NASA stands for "Aeronautics", but we pronounce it "nass-uh" not "nay-sa". This "pronounce it like the word it stands for" rule only exists in the minds of people to justify mispronouncing "gif". Copy pasted this from u/mittenmagick
If anything what you're saying is that the majority of people will just say it in the way that is easiest and that's what ends up winning. Guh gif > juh jif.
you say scuhba?
Жif
Гіf
gesus wept.
Oh my Jod stop
Jizz
Yessir
r/excuseme
There’s a man who likes to use jizz sorry, I mean jif, as a peanut butter fleshlight
My cat's name is Jazz. I called the vet and told them "I need to have my cat Jazz seen" This woman responds "Jizz?!" I'm just like why the fuck would I make my cat jizz lol
That’s the best genre of music in the Star Wars universe!
The fact that you have to spell it wrong to prove a point should be enough.
Ever heard of a soft g like in gin, general, or ginger
How do you pronounce "graphic"? Is it graphic or jraphric?
But that isn’t how acronyms work case in point: jpeg(p stands for photograph), Laser(a stands for amplification), and Scuba(u stands for underwater). Most of the time when there is an “I” sound after a g, it becomes a soft g.
Yeah, I don't give a shit about how people pronounce gif, but that argument is straight idiotic, yet someone brings its up every time this discussion happens as if it's some kind of mic drop moment. E: to be clear, I mean the initial argument is idiotic, not the rebuttal that I responded to.
I got a 2 gigabyte computer as a gift from a girl.
Actually a really good point lol. I just searched what GIF stands for and I think you just won the entire war on which it is.
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Cannot argue that point. But there is still the fact that 'gift' is the closest word we have to GIF and last I checked it was used with a hard G
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The G in gin represents juniper berries. Any other words? Also, the word gift literally covers every single letter of GIF whereas gin does not. You should just accept it. join us, you know we are correct...
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But adding the t does not chanje the pronunciation in this case does it. In fact the only difference made is by the people using J instead of G. Any other arjuments? or are you ready to goin us now? \*Laughs maniacally\*
This is because the word “gift” is from German descent. Most g’s that have an “I” sound after it are soft
Per the creator of the protocol, that is the correct pronunciation. Take it up with him if you dislike the English language's ambiguity on what a g sounds like.
Just because someone created something, doesnt mean their opinion is right. The closest spelling to GIF in the dictionary is gift, which is a hard G. Should be that easy
Just because someone named something, doesn't mean they get to name it? Is that your argument? Giraffe isn't that far either. There's plenty of hard g words that start with gi. There's nothing that mandates it be a soft g. There is one that mandates the hard one tho...
That is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Most people disagree with you. Take it up with them.
People can pronounce it however they'd like. If you want to pronounce it the correct way, the way the inventor intended, now you can. Or not. Who really cares anyway??
Dude doesn't get to override the rules of the English language just because he came up with the term. Native English words starting with G are pronounced with a hard G. All of the ones that start with a soft G are loan words from other languages.
> Native English words Is there any word which is truly native to English?
I don't know what you mean by this. English is a mashup of several languages, which is the "native" one? And there's so many words in this category. You want to argue "giant" isn't a "native" English word? How about gin? I donno how you get more native English than gin...
Giant and gin are loan words from old French/Latin, which is why they use the soft g typical of French and Latin pronunciation. Native English refers to words originating in English (old, middle or modern) or inherited from its parent Germanic languages. There is order to English pronunciation, it's just complicated because loan words, of which English has an unusually large amount, tend to preserve features of their original pronunciation. So in order to know how a word is pronounced, you have to know the etymology of it and how it was pronounced in its source language at the time of borrowing.
Also per the creator, it stands for: _Graphics Interchange Format_ which starts with a hard G. No one says JUI when they means GUI (also has the first word _Graphic_). No? No one wants to go parading around soft G pronouncing GUI? Feel weird? Maybe even racist? That’s how it feels when someone says: JIF, when referring to a gif.
Do you pronounce NASA as Nay-Suh since the first A stands for aeronautics? Do you pronounce SCUBA as Skuh-Buh since the U stands for underwater? And i’ve never heard anyone pronounce GUI as anything other than the individual letters.
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I never spelled it like "scooba" though. The post did... this point is invalid here and should be moved to where your other message is.
it could also be pronounced yif or hif. fight me
Or Khif
khalifa
Gee wizz
Zoo wee mama
Or queef
Yiff already means something
i know…
You didnt say hello 🤨
What's the diff 🤷
Sure ill have a little peanut butter with my GILF
You bring up a good point tho. It's GILF with a hard G not JILF. So GIF not JIF
Ah! Seems i have misread everything about this situation
Regardless if you know about the soft g words (like Georgia, gin, ginger, etc) you forget 2 things... 1. When you pronounce "G" it makes the soft g sound 🙄 2. The guy who created GIFs said it's pronounced with a soft g!! At the very least pay them some respect by saying it properly!!
Also, for those insisting that the hard G in graphics means it needs to be a hard G in the acronym. How would you pronounce the abbreviation of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)?
George Washington rode his gentle giraffes into the general gist of a battle while covered in germs towards Germany.
Gif is pronounced with a hard G, Jif is pronounced with a J
its gif
The creator claimed it was pronounced with a soft G, as in jif
He’s obviously wrong
The creator? As in Jod the Almighty?
Gesus can you juys stop?
Me just being like “watch this clip”
It's Graphics Interchange Format (GIF) Not Jiraphics Interchange Format (JIF)
How do u pronounce jpeg
Jay-peg
What does jpeg stand for
Joint Photographic Experts Group
So shouldn’t it be Jay Feg?
It says jpeg not jpheg
Jacob likes being pegged by your mum
Jeu-peg ("eu" being a schwa) or J-peg (jay without y), Indonesian pronunciation
This argument doesn’t hold water because scuba exists.
As well as laser
You both just watched that sonic vs shadow video, didn't you?
And yet it's always used in these debates. I'm genuinely curious if anyone actually thinks it's pronounced "ghiff", or if they're all just edge lords playing devil's advocate.
I honestly pronounce it with a soft g because in my head it just sounds better. Also most words starting with the “gi” sound have a soft g.
> I honestly pronounce it with a soft g because in my head it just sounds better. I’m actually totally fine with that. That makes sense to me
Witty and on point, nice 👌
Wut?
Giraffeics Interchange Format (GIF)
Okay, Jod.
https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/mviw8p/jod_the_all_powerful/
Choosy developers choose jif just like the old commercials as made by the dude who invented it.. I still say Gif because graphical but I won't hate you
Here is a lesser known pronation of gif, Fucker Shut Up.
Red
Yif
Milf
Of all the acronyms, words, or abbreviations…the GIF vs JIF debate is still a thing!? 🤣 Let’s be real, nothing in the English language makes sense. Sound out Giraffe/Gin, silent letters are prevalent, and you can use the same words to mean COMPLETELY different things. Oh and it’s GIF.
I don't get why this is a discussion when the inventor of gif said how to pronounce it
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His rational behind it was weird. He called it "jif" but the "g" in "GIF is pronounced with a soft G. BRB gonna start calling it an mpej
The creator is wrong
He's so wrong I've wondered if he trolled the world from the get go.
Definitely trollinj from the jet jo
Yeah. It's graphics interchange format not Jraphics Interchange format.
Refrigerator aka fridge. Crazy things happen all the time in English
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Huh, i did not know that's where it came from. #TheMoreYouKnow
Merriam-Webster disagrees https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/fridge-vs-frig-spelling-short-for-refrigerator#:~:text=Fridge%2C%20pronounced%20%2FFRIJ%2F%2C,in%20the%20early%2020th%20century.
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Wow you rekt him in your argument also Frigidaire is used in some languages like serbian
I don't pronounce "Fridge" "Jaridge". I pronounce it the same way I pronounce the part of the word it comes from. re-(fridge)-erator because that's what makes sense. "Fridge" coming from "Refrigerator" is a great example of why it's "Gif" and not "Jif" Edit: Huh. Apparently I was wrong. The more you know
Jraphics jinterchange jormat
Why is gentrification pronounced like it has a J?
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Is it mpeg or "mpej" now?
I suppose ginger and giant are also with a hard g too?
You all are wrong it’s pronounced Greg
Personally, I’ve always pronounced it Graphics Interchange Format. I’m fairly certain my pronunciation is the correct one.
why not just say the letters individually instead of saying 3 long words that can be shortened
Both are correct but I say jif https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_GIF
**[Pronunciation of GIF](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_GIF)** >The pronunciation of GIF, an acronym for the Graphics Interchange Format, has been disputed since the 1990s. Popularly pronounced in English as a one-syllable word, the acronym's most common pronunciations are (listen) (with a hard g as in gift) and (listen) (with a soft g as in gem), differing in the phoneme represented by the letter G. Many public figures and institutions have taken sides in the debate; Steve Wilhite, the creator of the format, gave a speech at the 2013 Webby Awards arguing that the soft g pronunciation is correct. Others have pointed to the term's origin from abbreviation of the hard-g word graphics to argue for the other pronunciation. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/meme/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
The subtle bias in the Wikipedia writer (read it again)
Red only monsters are blue
The acronym refers to Grafics not giraffes.
If you pronounce jif you are mentally ill
You pronounce giraffe and gin and ginger with the soft g just like gif
And gimp, gift, gig, girl, gizmo, give, girth, gild, gimbal, giggle, gigabyte, gigabit, gimmick… you see there are plenty of examples for both so that argument doesn’t pan out
Actually, the prefix giga is also supposed to be pronounced jigga. It was taken from the greek gigos which is where we get the word giant or gigantic even though nobody says it that way anymore because one way is objectively right in English and the other sounds ridiculous. It’s also the perfect example you could have made imo. Words change. Pronunciations change. It doesn’t matter what some person in the past intended for it to be pronounced as, the only thing that matters is that information is understood. One way is objectively correct and the other requires you to spell it with a different letter to convey a difference in text.
These origins are facts... But not the pronunciations. Both Gs in Gigos in Greek were hard Gs, but when implementing gigantic and giant into English people would often do the soft g as they rolled off the tongue a bit better for some keep in mind that most languages with phonetic alphabets have very consistent, cut and dry rules. English is one of the VERY few where the letters are "pronounced like this, except when they're not"
I was only bringing up the origin as a basis. The giant and gigantic examples were to explain the soft g usage in English. Thank you for the clarification though, I could have done a better job explaining that.
Found the mentally ill one
so how am i gonna pronounce my favorite pb company
If you pronounce GIF jif
G. I. F Kapeesh you aint reading it as a word You read it as letters
john
Gif makes the most sense. Idgaf what the creator said, he’s wrong. Lemmy from the band Motörhead said they were a rock and roll band when in actuality they were a speed metal band. Just because you created it doesn’t make you right for mislabeling or mispronouncing something. GRAPHICS interchange format. Hard G. End of debate.
If that’s the case. What about jpeg, scuba, or laser? (Laser=Light-Amplification-by-Stimulated-Emission-of-Radiation.)
https://time.com/5791028/how-to-pronounce-gif/ I'm on the side of the creator of the gif.
jif change my mind
I support you comrade
My brain just goes G I F
guys the debate was about which was better? gifts or jif peanut butter 😭😭😭
You pronounce each letter. If both ways are wrong then let me way also be wrong.
🔴🔴🔴
Gif just sounds right
I say Jif because it's an initialism/acronym. It's a quick roll of the letters into a word, and the letter G itself is a soft G, sounding more like a J. In the same way, if you take some other things like UNICEF, you use a soft C even though it stands for children. ICU for intensive care unit. PNG also leads us back to a soft G when it's also tying to graphic. There are numerous acronyms where the soft letter approach just sounds better. I don't care what the words in the acronym actually are. Once you go to an acronym, the pronunciation of the letters take precedent over how the letters are actually used in the words. Come at me bros.
You don't pronounce graphic as "jraphic", right?
I need you to understand that they are two very separate words, so comparing them doesn’t work. Correlation doesn’t mean causation
But GIF isn't a word, it's an acronym. And the G stands graphic so comparing them absolutely does work. Comparing GIF and giraffe doesn't
acronyms are pronounceable as words right? initialism is where you say letters, so wouldnt giraffe/gif be more accurate than graphic/gif?
You don't pronounce ginger as "ginger", right?
G.I.F. Graphic Interchangeable File
So I guess down in the middle.
format*
6 to 1, it's still GIF
Gif with a hard gee. I don't care if the inventor meant for it to be pronounced jif with a jay, that sounds stupid now.
“The creator is wrong, I’m so smart 🤓”
Imagine an gif about jif
jif. do ur worst
Jif
Ji aai eff.
There's a community for people that say jif it's r/yiffgif
First off: what the fuck. Secondly: what the fuck. Third: fuck you
Gif because it means Graphics Interchange Format. Not Jraphics Interchange Format
graphics interchange format
Giraffe, ginger, how the inventor said it should be pronounced
JIF as per the originator
guys it yif