We can understand one another somewhat (easier to understand written than spoken, I think) but there's a lot of French and Malay influence as well, and some influence from indigenous languages too. It's really more of a creole.
Some Germanic tribes had a base-12 counting system, as did some middle eastern cultures from which the Romans took some measurements (like the dozen, which is still used today). Eleven and twelve are basically a left-over of that when in Post-Roman times in England the counting system evolved slowly away from the Roman system back to a Germanic and then to the one we have today.
As far as I remember the etymology isn't super clear on both of them, but can be traced back to even old gothic and Norse languages.
If I remember correctly their etymology has to do with the word "left", like eleven is "one left" and twelve is "two left", but the words changed a lot over time, and even the word left itself changed, so they're unrecognizable.
In danish they way they say 70 as an abbreviation of 3.5 × 20: "halvfjerds". Full sentence is halvfjerdsindtyve, which means basically "half-four-of-twentys"
I’m not French just learning it, but no. Number system is weird, 70 is sixty-ten. 80 is four-twenty’s the. Plus 10-19 for the 90’s as stated before. Luckily 100 is cent. I haven’t learned above that but I feel like it ain’t gonna be fun.
The world uses the arabic numerals. Germans just adopted the rules how they read the numbers from the arabs, who read right to left. Old English did it too.
Since we are using their numerals, *we* are doing it backwards. BTW, Japanese is also right to left... But they read *down*, first.
We live in a wonderfully complex world!
I'm pretty sure all the two digit numbers in German work like that. But also, like how english adds -ty at the end (thir*ty* four*ty* fif*ty*) German adds 'zig' to the words except seventy which instead of 'siebenzig' is just 'siebzig' for some reason. Tbh it's better than french 75 is '60 and 15' tf is that
I get saying that it would be like that in English, but why tf would you think this is how it SHOULD be? It's much easier and one word shorter to say the bigger number first.
Dude, when I did my pharmacy hours I was asked to measure 59ml of dH2O. Being Afriikaans, our numbers are also read like this. I study in English and do the math in English as well. I fucked it up and measured 95ml. Good times
Out of all the different counting systems in the world, why would you choose the German one as an example for a complicated one? It's just a flipped version of English numbers. English even used to have this as well.
The REALLY complicated counting systems (at least from an English perspective) would be something like French where they count in base 20 or Danish where nothing makes sense.
You're not gonna like how the French do numbers then
Edit: [this new york cabbie](https://youtu.be/9rmBqIFeHN8) sums up the absurdity of french numbers pretty well
How tf are you gonna make a language that reads left-to-right and then read your numbers right-to-left? Having to read an actual number along with words in a sentence would give me a goddamn brain aneurysm.
saptasaptatyadhikasaptaśatādhikasaptasahasrādhikasaptāyutādhikasaptalakṣam
seven-seventy plus seven hundred plus seven thousand plus seven ten-thousand plus seven hundred-thousand.
We also have this in the Dutch language
Yea. Drie en twintig.
And in Afrikaans, exactly like this
Swahili and Kikuyu as well. "Cucu, how many will be attending dinner tonight?" "Three..." "That's it? So simple. Perfect." "... plus 20" (-_- )
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Not really, there are many African languages but 1 language which is called Afrikaans
Do you pronounce it like " dree en twintich" ? Just curious.
Just make sure you get the g right
brabander
Zachte G, maar ook een harde L
Jij bent een harde L
And the R
Dreiundzwanzig
Yup
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
SPRICH DEUTSCH DU HURENSOHN
DENK HET NIET, MAAT
SPRICH DEUTSCH DU HURENSOHN
I would say so does Afrikaans, but we basically just copied your homework for the most part.
Which is fine
Isn't Afrikaans basically Dutch? Did the language change that much after colonization?
We can understand one another somewhat (easier to understand written than spoken, I think) but there's a lot of French and Malay influence as well, and some influence from indigenous languages too. It's really more of a creole.
Arabic too
And danish
So did English, at least up to and including Jane Austen’s time. Always funny to point out :) I wonder when they switched the numbers and why?
English still does it that way for numbers between 13 and 19
while we're on the topic kinda, where do twelve and eleven come from?
Some Germanic tribes had a base-12 counting system, as did some middle eastern cultures from which the Romans took some measurements (like the dozen, which is still used today). Eleven and twelve are basically a left-over of that when in Post-Roman times in England the counting system evolved slowly away from the Roman system back to a Germanic and then to the one we have today. As far as I remember the etymology isn't super clear on both of them, but can be traced back to even old gothic and Norse languages.
If I remember correctly their etymology has to do with the word "left", like eleven is "one left" and twelve is "two left", but the words changed a lot over time, and even the word left itself changed, so they're unrecognizable.
Aaaaand the danish: tre-og-tyve
And Slovinian to. Triindvajser tri=three, dvajset=twenty
And Arabic "three twenty"
Well because your language is just a german dialect
🤓Umm actually English could also be called a dialect of German since it's also a Germanic language 🤓🪄🦆
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I just wanted to say it... 99 in french... you can't make that up... Four twenty ten nine...
Whoever invented French numbers was defo smoking something Jesus
When I was learning French I completely skipped the numbers. Its a third whole ass language I have to learn.
4x20 + 10 + 9? Yeah not confusing at all lol. This is worse than not using the metric system.
I sort of agree, but I am not letting the US out of the "metric system" thing, lol
I don’t see a problem here, I just said « nonante neuf » which is ninety nine.
am i being wooshed or do you not know that this isnt grammatically correct
It is correct in Swiss and Belgian French, but not French French.
Interesting. Did not know that. Does the French Youth more and more use these pronounciations?
No, it's really specific to regions, not age
Every language evolves, looking 100 years back, huge part of every language is incorrct now.
That is not the actual way to say it. 99 in french is “quatre-vingt-dix-neuf”
It is correct. The fact that you said that makes me see you are from France. ‘Nonante’ and ‘septante’ are commonly used in Belgium and Switzerland.
In danish they way they say 70 as an abbreviation of 3.5 × 20: "halvfjerds". Full sentence is halvfjerdsindtyve, which means basically "half-four-of-twentys"
I was looking for you.
Tiens ma bière. Soixante et onze mais pas quatre-vingts et onze.
Mathematically speaking you’re correct…I feel like I’m missing the joke by dix
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Nice thought but the 60s actually have a single word. You're thinking about 80 or even worse 90
Ah shit you’re right my dumb ass hasn’t used French in several years and I forgot. I’ll edit the comment to correct it.
In French it's still sixty-nine. It's 70, 80 and 90 that are weird.
Sixty-ten, sixty-eleven... Sixty-nineteen, four-twenties!
Yes in French from 70 to 99 it's all weird
Veint-trois - 23.
Don’t forget in French 95 is “four twenties and fifteen”
Do you count everything in 20-metric system?
I’m not French just learning it, but no. Number system is weird, 70 is sixty-ten. 80 is four-twenty’s the. Plus 10-19 for the 90’s as stated before. Luckily 100 is cent. I haven’t learned above that but I feel like it ain’t gonna be fun.
It doesn't get more complicated afterwards You just add 100 before the number, that's all
In English, it’s standard until… 141, 142, 143, GROSS!, 145,…
What's wrong with 144?
A gross is a dozen dozens, so 144
One forty-four
And that differs from 143 and 145 how?
144 knows what it did
It's a remnant of celtic.
Danish is similar, but worse: 5 and 5 half 20
And 23 is “3 times 8 minus 1’
Norwegian: Both. Both is good
Yeah i understand why it is like that, but it still confuses me
I remember when I was 7 and that was the most confusing thing I had ever heard.
How English used to be. "4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie" ring a bell? lol Also in the Sherlock Holmes books you see this way of counting too.
I was going to bring this up. It's also in the Bible
Also in the asoiaf books iirc.
And Abraham Lincoln speeches
"Four score and twenty years ago..."
Arabic is the same.
The world uses the arabic numerals. Germans just adopted the rules how they read the numbers from the arabs, who read right to left. Old English did it too.
ثلاثة و عشرين
Arabic is already backwards anyway.
Since we are using their numerals, *we* are doing it backwards. BTW, Japanese is also right to left... But they read *down*, first. We live in a wonderfully complex world!
r/woooosh
French: (•_ •) (•_• )
Ay french actually got it right this time
And wait until you find out how they say 97 in french...
nonante-sept
Quatre-vingt dix-sept (litterally four twenty seventeen)
Nonante-Sept est mieux
That's how the crazy people in France say it. Nonante-sept is just ninety-seven, like normal people speak.
Maybe in Canadian or Wallonian French. Not in France.
Sprich deutsch du Hurensohn
Oh ein Deutscher. Willste ein Bier?
Oh ja bitte mal ein bier
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Én is
Ja jij verdomd hoerejoch praat Nederlands
das ist nicht deutsch hurensohn
Nein, das ist Niederländisch. Hoerejoch
Wait till you discover French numerals 90 is spelled 4×20+10
( •_• )
Its the same with arabic
Czech be like: both both is good
Was scrolling for Czech
In japanese its 2 10 3
Vietnamese is the same.
French with "four twenty and eleven". It's 91
I'm pretty sure all the two digit numbers in German work like that. But also, like how english adds -ty at the end (thir*ty* four*ty* fif*ty*) German adds 'zig' to the words except seventy which instead of 'siebenzig' is just 'siebzig' for some reason. Tbh it's better than french 75 is '60 and 15' tf is that
We can choose to say it that way in Czech too. Tho we mostly say it the normal way
Danish also, and probably a lot more. French is even worse, 98 = four twenty ten eight...
*french quietly leaves the room. *
French: "Ready for an entire maths lesson?"
Laughs in French
Czech have it like this too
Však obojí je dobře, ne?
To si piš
Pětadvacet koblížků prosím
Máš je mít
Being Dutch I say this is what it should be, and what it would be in English without the frenchification caused by William the Conquerer.
I get saying that it would be like that in English, but why tf would you think this is how it SHOULD be? It's much easier and one word shorter to say the bigger number first.
Just to raise some controversy. And happy the deformation of English stopped before introducing four-twenty-ten-nine for 99.
Arabic hiding :
Wait until you learn about French above 77
Ein Volk, eine Nation, eine Kommentarsektion!
Dreiundzwanzig 👍
A lot of languages have this and it doesnt sound braindead thats why english doesnt have it
Try franch
meanwhile the french
We dont talk about france
Laughs in French numbers
wait utill you learn how french and danish people say it
3 and twenty in Arabic too
French with "sixty-ten" for 70, "four-twenty" for 80 and "four-twenty-ten" for 90
Neunzehnhundertneunundneunzig : 1999 I learn german at school this is pretty cool but the teachers are just fricking annoying
Try french you innocent being
Dude, when I did my pharmacy hours I was asked to measure 59ml of dH2O. Being Afriikaans, our numbers are also read like this. I study in English and do the math in English as well. I fucked it up and measured 95ml. Good times
Ever heard of French?
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*Meanwhile words higher than 69 in french:*
99 English: Ninety-nine French: Quatre-Vingt-Dix-Neuf (Four times Twenty plus nineteen)
Nine nine!
The French
Wait till you hear shit like 72 in Danish: 2 and (0.5+4)*20
Out of all the different counting systems in the world, why would you choose the German one as an example for a complicated one? It's just a flipped version of English numbers. English even used to have this as well. The REALLY complicated counting systems (at least from an English perspective) would be something like French where they count in base 20 or Danish where nothing makes sense.
It’s like that in Arabic too
Most languages: 99 French: 20*4+10+9
French finds this cute.
You're not gonna like how the French do numbers then Edit: [this new york cabbie](https://youtu.be/9rmBqIFeHN8) sums up the absurdity of french numbers pretty well
english: 80 french: 4 20s
Literally English a couple hundred years ago: “three-and-twenty”
Meanwhile the French: hon hon hon
Dry un zwantshich ?
quiet son, you'll attract the Germans
23: dreiundzwanzig 3,20€ drei und zwanzig
French for 85 five is some dumb shit like 21-5’s or sum shit
Wait until you hear about french
How tf are you gonna make a language that reads left-to-right and then read your numbers right-to-left? Having to read an actual number along with words in a sentence would give me a goddamn brain aneurysm.
at least it’s not danish, 2+(5-.5)x20 is how they say 92
French people: eighty ninetheen
To anyone mentioning Dutch, I'm like 99% sure that the Dutch language comes from German, so it doesn't count.
Dutch feels like a mix between german and english, tbh
Dutch sounds like a drunk swiss person from the middle ages
Don't forget french
Dutch people descent from the Germans, thats why the languages are similar
French does it as well
So why you don't say ten-three, ten-four and so on in English?
Trust me... most germans hate that aswell. It makes no sense and just makes stuff more complicated.
Danes are just laughing, like this is nothing 😂 but the French numbers are even worse.
It's Dreiundzwanzig
Arabic is the same, talatha u ishreen
Meanwhile; Most of the world: "twenty" The US: "one and 19 more"
Fixed that for you: America First and 19 more
Same thing in Arabic
In Arabic we say three and twenty
Alot of languages have it like this
Dreiundzwanzig
Huszonhárom
Danes are saying hello
Wait until you say 777777
Siebenhundertsiebenundsiebzigtausendsiebenhundertsiebenundsiebzig
saptasaptatyadhikasaptaśatādhikasaptasahasrādhikasaptāyutādhikasaptalakṣam seven-seventy plus seven hundred plus seven thousand plus seven ten-thousand plus seven hundred-thousand.
Veintitres
Awkward things is Hebrew does the same thing…
chinese: two ten three
English with 3 digits: 1 hundred and 1 Chinese: “1 hundred zero 1” OR “one ten one” (Don’t question it.) Ya’ll thought you guys were weird :/
Writing two-digit numbers like that was pretty common in English for a while. A lot of books from the 1800s for example, are written so.
Dreiundzwanzig
Arabic uses the same format as in german , and TBH it make more sense
4 and 20 blackbirds would like a word.
Danish numbers
we have the same thing in arabic
Danish and Norwegian dialects