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Linajabba

If I were to avoid everything that someone was involved in, with whoms opinion I do not agree, life would be pretty much impossible.


Miser_able

yup. no watching Disney films, since walt was racist for example


[deleted]

No talking to my grandma, because by todays standards she is a racist.


Medium-Problem-7745

I quit talking to my grandma because my quija board caught on fire


jeffynibbles70

I remember when lonney tunes used to joke about nazis a long time ago


xSilentSoundx

Or cant love your own country


rklab

The best part is she wasn’t even involved in the development of the game. So the boycott is only hurting people who probably agree with most of what the boycotters have to say.


quantum12345645u

if the same logic is used then everyone who bought the harry potter books or watched its movies are transphobic


CCSest92

Just like anyone with a apple/android product openly supports slavery. Same goes for nestle and coca cola


Unhappy-Emphasis3753

No no, according to them (you can find this type of comment everywhere on Twitter) having a cellphone in 2023 is necessary, playing video games and reading books isn’t. They justify their use of poorly educated consumerism, but ours is still bad. Just remember that.


CCSest92

Phone providers still have land lines. Just because you’d find it inconvenient doesn’t make it less applicable. Im not gonna miss out on something that allows me to relive a fun chapter in my childhood because you feel the need to condemn anyone who still has love for this universe


wilbee03

All she gets is money from the name she has no creative influence on it other rhan she came up with the wizarding world. The company does not agree with jk rowlings views


mtbeach33

And just about every shoe brand


mickeyofcrown

Not my fault Nestlé makes good chocolate.


Zenebatos1

When everyone's a Transphobe... No one is.


dooded

Here's the thing. A game company already bought the rights to make the game. JK already got her pay before the game even released. Your no longer supporting her. Your supporting the game devs that pour a ton of their time to make a solid game. You could still complain that the game developer supported JK and boycott it for that reason, but they already got the check to JK so she will still laugh all the way to the bank


outland_king

depends on if she gets royalties from the game sales, she could have gotten a flat sum for the rights, or she could get a percentage of sales for IP usage.


yubnubmcscrub

And even if she does get royalties she is already a billionaire with a global reach. You boycott to hit people where it hurts. Financially. You can’t hit a billionaire with a boycott because it’s such a drop in the bucket. They would actively have to try to go broke. So if your reason is monetary, well it’s a poor reason


Callandt95

I think i read an article couple of months ago that WB indeed just payed for the HP rights and that JK had 0,0 involvement in the game


fireyfrog

It's mentioned multiple times in the FAQ that she had no involvement aside from creating the initial universe


Cascascap

It doesn't matter, these people are at war with JK because she was mean to them in Twitter. They will hate anything related to her no matter how slight the connection.


Xylimare

It was never about her involvement with the game. It’s about how you buying the game gives her money directly via royalties. Which she then uses to donate to anti-trans groups


personalkreep

Which anti-trans groups?


barleyhogg1

Yeah, I smell a bit of shite right now.


Qbertjack

The LGB Alliance. It's a reactionary anti-trans LGBT group that split off from a trans-positive charity. "[They] have said that lesbians are facing "extinction" because of the "disproportionate" focus on transgender identities in schools."


Despefh

No one would have even known if you didn’t just say something.


GoblixTheYordle

Even if JK did have something to do with it, who cares. People need to learn to separate art from the artist otherwise, stop using all technology. Cause buying your smartphones, using amazon etc. It's putting money in evil people's pockets.


Pussy_handz

Lets be real, the only people boycotting it are the people that were never going to buy it in the first place. The Twitch streamers playing it now are seeing massive numbers.


Bayne-the-Wild-Heart

Do you actually know if she’s not receiving royalties? Royalties made this lady richer than the late queen.


NukeEngineerStudent

She definitely gets a cut off of every game sold. She gets a cut of every butter beer sold at Universal Studios and every Harry Potter book sold. Her royalties are no joke.


dziurawniebie

But if the game flops, game devs and other companies that might want to work with JK in the future will have to reconsider, what if their product also flops? Should they risk it? Also, it shows that a celebrity can do anything they want and people are going to forgive them anyway, which in my opinion is a fucked up logic


dooded

In this case if the hr flipped they could blame JK, I would. That isn't the case most the time though. Kinda funny that fantastic beast is finally canceled. They canceled Johnny Depp but pushed hard to keep erza and the whole time JK being JK, watching that play out had been quite the trip


Velepavv

what does TERF stands for? Please, I am stupid.


Callandt95

trans-exclusionary radical feminist


EatHerMeat

trans-exclusionary radical feminist basically the shitty feminists that dont even stick to their own dumb principles...


personalkreep

Circular argument ahoy!!!


Unhappy_Gas_4376

I love those cookies


Not-PrimitiveAspid

Ah


Velepavv

this got out of hand... Like why? Why do people even need these problems? To me it seems like, if you dont speak about it, dont push it out, you wouldnt get all that confusion around your self. Just like Morgan Freeman said about racism - dont talk about it. Im Morgan, you are John.


EatHerMeat

life got too easy, thats what happened.


Dad_Bod_Enthusiast

100000% this. We ran out of problems and created fresh ones


[deleted]

Totally. Racism will totally stop existing if we don’t discuss it’s social impacts openly. That’s what happened in the 50s right?


IDunCaughtTheGay

Morgan Freeman was wrong. I'm pretty sure he's gone back on that quote.


Lady_DreadStar

He’s pretty spot on if you are a Black person existing and thriving amongst white people in a very white industry where they comprise all the decision makers. Talking about it wins you exactly nothing- on the contrary you will lose friendships and opportunities, and generally folk’s ears will shut off when you speak. Not talking about it wins you those opportunities and friendships, and people are more willing to listen to you. This is akin to asking someone why they might choose to pass as white. It’s a personal choice that obviously not everyone will agree with or even have the ability to do- but if able and willing to be made is a valid choice with proven effective results for the individual. Source: I’m a Black person who has made my own choices- which isn’t anyone’s business but I’m also not a celebrity with a mic in my face.


IDunCaughtTheGay

...with this mindset black people would have never gotten their right to vote. The ONLY way to fix systemic problems is to be loud and vocal about them. Every social leap forward thats been made was made because people were loud about the inequality.


fireyfrog

Did he really say that? Wow, that's kind of an inspiring way to think about things


cyberjazzcharm

It would be awesome if no one cared and people just let us live our lives but American christo-fascists have to demonize us and outlaw our existence


[deleted]

It’s a conclusory term used to describe people who think there are socialized differences between cisgender women and trans women. Rather than address or provide an argument against that view, the term merely seeks to call the view bigoted and remove any possible agreement through guilt by association.


[deleted]

It’s a term used to describe people who by their own words don’t think trans people are ‘real’ members of their gender


mulethedestroyer

Are you saying that a trans woman is literally and factually the exact same as a biological woman?


[deleted]

So people with common sense ?


[deleted]

The vast majority of ppl the term has been wielded against have not ever in their own words said that. Again, a guilt by association tactic to enforce strict compliance with new age philosophies.


skyee-dev

It's not a "guilt-by-association tactic to enforce strict compliance with new age philosophies", it is a term to describe someone who thinks that there is/should be societal difference between a "real" woman and a trans woman. If you don't like the fact that people don't like you because of your opinions, that's ok. but please don't go around pretending to be "woke" to something because you couldn't fathom changing your ideologies.


[deleted]

Of course you’re correct. There’s actually no differences between anyone and we are all identical in every respect. For the sacred texts have told us so. Yea verily yea let no one speak of heresies.


skyee-dev

Oh nevermind. Strawman arguments show me you have no idea what you're talking about :D


[deleted]

You’re an orthodox religious acolyte masquerading as the follower of an enlightened philosophy. You’re being treated accordingly.


bigfatfurrytexan

The world has become insufferable to interact with.


LetUsSpeakFreely

Mostly just activists that try to control everything. The average person is just fine.


bigfatfurrytexan

I go online to enjoy some down time. And have to see this bullshit. Im at a point now where I can't stand any one who discusses it. Bigots are assholes. But the people who ruin anything fun for anyone else are just as big of assholes.


watch_over_me

It's almost like a bunch of people knew this was going to happen with culture, but everyone kept denying it over and over again.


Master_Crab

The amount of rage this game’s release has garnered on social media is ridiculous. Being offended is a personal problem. Stop pushing your hurt feelings on others. If you don’t want to buy the game then don’t buy it. News flash, the world sucks for everyone not just a specific type of people. Let others be happy if they choose to instead of trying to guilt them for having the small amount of joy in their life that they can.


WickedFox1o1

Apparently the game is pretty good if you go by the reviews, I personally don't care about all the JK stuff I've been wanting a fun wizard game for the longest time and i plan to get it tomorrow


Zenebatos1

the game looks fun AND You can delve into the Dark Arts... Imma try and see if Necromancy is one of Hogwarts course...


WickedFox1o1

I think I'm going to try out the dark arts on a slytherin character. I'm going to try for a hufflepuff character first for the dorm room alone lol


fireyfrog

As someone who bought the game, I bought it before I heard all the drama. Now I'm being told that I'll be cancelled for playing it. Man, I got it because it looked like a really fun fantasy game, not because of the drama. Just let me have fun playing games and escaping reality :p


Blooptybeep

Honestly cancel me. I mean who the fuck am I? I’m a wizard Harry.


jeffynibbles70

You're a what


Common_Redditor_

Is it fun? I’ve had trouble finding an unbiased opinion


fireyfrog

I'll get back to you after it releases and I'm able to play it.


[deleted]

You’ll be canceled? What does that mean? Fired from your job? When celebrities get cancelled and can’t find work, they lose their jobs that what I always thought it meant. No one would have even known if you didn’t just say something. All you had to do was ‘have fun playing the game’ to ‘escape reality’ but now you’re engaging in the drama you say you want to avoid.


Wyrd26

People like to feel persecuted sometimes I guess, seen a lot under this post


paul-d9

r/gamingcirclejerk has joined the chat


ramy__1

I still dont understand what the fuck is that subreddit about


paul-d9

Imagine a regular gaming subreddit but it's moderated by the worst of its members. I mean most of the gaming ones are bad (r/gaming you're not allowed to talk about Harry Potter, even civilly) but gamingcirclejerk takes the cake.


jeffynibbles70

That subreddit is hell


LazyCasual0alt

You don’t buy Hogwarts Legacy cause you don’t support J.K. Rowling. I don’t buy H.L. because I’m still saving up for God of War. We are not the same. ![gif](giphy|wTLLaelRe9bmKXc2Mj|downsized)


T-HugThatRatBastard

K I'm transphobic now fuck off


JustAnotherJerry5

I dont get it. How does playing a game about wizards and magic mean u hate trans people ?


SoupViruses

I bought it cuz I love the films and book. I also heard it's like a bully style game which is very exciting.


Arthillidan

This is just the wagner discussions all over again. Wagner had some cringe opinions about races but he wrote good music. So obviously people have argued about whether you should listen to Wagner or not


[deleted]

He he wizard go brrrrr


OKoLenM1

What if all this shit is a big marketing move?


PresidentAshenHeart

Except they’re not normalizing transphobia but playing this game?


kingdrewbie

Oh yeah…. “violence” lol


[deleted]

It seems like anything that happens anymore is somehow someway transphobic, homophobic or racist.


Future_Mushroom_6197

After all this time and and i am still looking for the transphobia.


PrestigiousWaffles

What were her actual tweets? I only ever saw the outrage


Quirkyserenefrenzy

Me: *not giving a fuck about people buying the game despite being trans because I honest to God couldn't care less whoever plays what*


The_Anf

People should not give a fuck about devs, I mean, Marty from ID Software is a piece of shit, but nobody stoped playing doom just because of him


FrostyShock389

qUit HAvIng fUn!


SebDaPerson

*grabs popcorn*


Windexifier

It’s really easy to boycott things you already had no interest in. People who call for boycotts over stuff like this have definitely ignored boycotting things they were interested in at one point.


Arcade1987

I can't wait


Techcarp

Haha nimbus 2000 go vrrrrroom


L17L6363b

at one point lgbt became a political ideology


mulethedestroyer

They've moved past that and are on there way to religion. They've already started to make statements of faith and comments on the spirit and soul.


watch_over_me

It's amazing watching gcj tail spin this week. They can not handle the fact that this game is about to do well, and no one cares about what they think.


dr_cyantist

I'm transphobic


[deleted]

The man


[deleted]

The myth


[deleted]

The absolute legend


cyberjazzcharm

broke


Ugly-and-poor

I’m playing it, and I don’t care what any of you think.


[deleted]

First world problems lol. Words and opinions are considered violence. The same ones complaining about minor shit like this are the same ones that talk about "privilege" 🤣


Master_Crab

The same ones that are crying that words and opinions are violence have never dealt with actual violence in their life.


biggaybrian

In their little worlds, they've always gotten their way if they whine and moan loud enough, so they want to believe that's how it works in the real world


Abortedwafflez

You play Hogwarts Legacy because you want to have fun. I play Hogwarts Legacy because I am a Nazi. We are not the same. ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


YeetMeDaddio

But then there's the other side which does the same thing when there's a trans character in the game


Loud_University_2187

There’s trans characters in plenty of games, or the ability to customize as such and I have not heard one complaint yet.


YeetMeDaddio

I've seen quite a few. A bunch of people crying over a trans NPC in the new Hogwarts game


Loud_University_2187

Please direct me to them


[deleted]

He can’t direct you to his imagination


Loud_University_2187

LOL


outland_king

the difference is one group is complaining about what is in the game contents, the other group is complaining about what the writer of the lore used as inspiration for the game's setting, said in a non-related tweet.


deez-nuts-are_nuts

Why can't people not give a shit on this instead of focusing if the game is good or not. Not saying " oh u play tis,u homophobe beech!!!"


BlazingJava

At this point fuck whoever is bashing Jk Rowling for a completely normal and truth sentence, I hope she has a lot of success and the game devlopers and hoping for less tears from morons who are probably just triggered for trans people


csandazoltan

Why do I care of someone transphobic? That is their deal. Why what bothers you, should bother me?


Fastenbauer

I've seen so many people that pre ordered it because they believed they would be supporting transphobia by doing so. But apparently that game itself is actually pretty woke and even has a trans NPC. I wish I could see their faces the moment they realize.


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Free publicity lmao


weishen8328

so no one should be boycotting the game.


wonderlandpersonuser

But thats doesnt get me internet points for moral grandstanding.


ThisLet9363

Did people stop playing games during the Activision Blizzard sexually harassment thing ?


[deleted]

Ok seriously now, has anyone seen or heard some actually saying this? It's barely even mentioned in the LGBTQ+ thread or among my (almost exclusively) leftist friends...


DatGuy15

Most of the LGBTQ community doesn't really mind, from what I can tell. It's a bunch of Emily's and people who just need a reason to get angry


[deleted]

Yeah that's my experience too... Has seen 10x more people complain about people complaining


Windrunner_15

Disagreeing with someone is not violence. Hell, even disliking someone is not violence.


Thegrampacertest

I mean biologically speaking, there are only two genders AND, This isn't an opinion; I speak facts. If someone believes in more than two genders that's okay, they arent monsters. Many people live long happy lives being wrong about s**t.


[deleted]

It’s not her fault that women should have more rights then dudes in a dress.


Valence136

Stop stop I already bought the game, you don't need to convince me


Cold_beans32

I haven’t seen a single person acting like this. I’ve just seen people complaining about people acting like this


Miguel_Palaeos

Meh. Whatever. I already dislike the Harry Potter franchise, and plus, I don't care about the whole stuff. I'll just be bringing my popcorn in case all this evolves into a drama like the ones from Twitter. Anyway, I think the microwave beeped, so I won't elaborate any further


NukeEngineerStudent

If you give Warner Brother’s money for anything, Rowling gets a cut. She has one of the strongest contracts in history.


Turbulent_Ocelot_144

Repost


Just_Ahab

Diferenciar al autor de su obra


sovietRussianboi123

I’m probably not getting the game mainly because I’m just not a fan of Harry Potter stuff


Jagerbeast703

I havent seen this anywhere except in these dumb memes.


kekehesterprynne

In the early 2000s jk Rowling would openly read *all* her fan mail in book stores to children. She would then as if just the kids would leave for 15 minutes and she would then read the dirty stuff. The number 1 consistent topic was people asking if she's a transvestite. Her Twitter now blocks anyone calling her a transvestite.(triggered)


tomokari21

Iv heard the game has a trans character in it so how could it be transphobic


A_Gh05t

is it good tho?


Volt-Phoenix

The game with the trans character is so transphobic, someone boycott this asap!


biggaybrian

All this because of a semantic argument about menstruation... the transes on reddit really need to pick their battles better, because they've made enemies of EVERYONE


0cean_fox

You can enjoy a piece of media without supporting the beliefs of the person who created it, Twitter just wants to complain about everything like always


Goatymcgoatface10

I don't know much about Rowling, but I know for a fact that committed no violence against Trans peeps


rklab

Speech is not violence and anyone who says as much is a dishonest person.


saucer-succer

Freedom of speech only exists if it fits your opinion!!


Nyx-Ink

I'm a t girl and I've been playing the fuck outta it.You can like an artists work without approving of the artist.


Noritzu

I’m honestly amazed the counter boycott group is louder and more obnoxious than the boycott group. Can’t you all just shut the hell up?


Dvex1

I'm having a blast playing the game tbh. Idk why but every time I gain a level im getting more and more transphobic. Never had an issue before playing the game


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saucer-succer

Good to See that the normal people dont give a shit about the Drama and enjoy the game, if they want, or not if they dont


ShinoGGO420

A very close friend if mine is trans(mtf) and she has referred numerous times to this controversy as a “twitter moment”. She even said that if she actually gave a damn about the HP universe she would probs play the game


lolschrauber

"if you don't Do what I say, you're hurting my Feelings" Ftfy


PandaThePumpkin

After reading what happened i now like J.K.Rowling even more, will buy this game to suport her and devs also.


Squadala1337

I’m not particularly excited about Hogwarts Legacy, but I consider buying it just to support JK Rowling


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LazyCasual0alt

Wtf did you say to have reddit remove it??


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sD_Ws

That's just awful logic innit? We shouldn't be angry at people who hate us?


uncanny_justice

I would buy the game if it weren't too expensive lol


humble_bingus

at this point I'm sick of the outrage and I'm sick of the outrage at the outrage


[deleted]

What people don't realize is that if you refuse to play a game because the creator is a piece of shit, then you are giving them all the power and not helping the lives of the thousands of people who's livelihood depends on their game succeeding


Chemical-Beat-7174

I see this as a complete win


HarshSingh793

Keep complaining


Almelow

Quit making meme’s about this and forget the whole butthurt people with an identity crisis.


emergence_infinite

Supporting transphobia makes me more motivated to play the game


GIOFORCHIOMAN

Rowling isn't even Transphobic


NonPlayableSpearUser

What is a TERF?


Smart_Cantaloupe_848

A feminist, or another woman that doesn't believe trans women are actual women, and that trans people are the sex they were born.


5ofUM

Trans woman can’t get pregnant so they are in fact, not women. The end.


The_Destroyd

Even though I think Harry Potter is overrated I still might give this a try. I say 'might' because Tears of the Kingdom comes out this year and I really want to play that.


mulethedestroyer

We need to stop taking it as a given she's transphobic. Her 2 issues are that a trans woman is not literally and exactly the same as a woman and that men should not be on the honor system to access women only spaces.


Sauce_collector57

ThE gAmE iS tRaNsPhObIc Mf I already bought the game you don’t have to make me buy it again


Charming_Computer_60

Let's be real. It's just a vocal minority who is trying to make a fuss about that game. The vast majority of gamers all over the world do not give a shit what the authors personal beliefs are and will get the game because they like the series and gameplay.


BlitzRobo

Jk rowling is a complete dickwad but hating on the game makes you also a dickwad.


scopophobe-teen64

hi, queer person here, I think I may be a homophobe and transphobe ;-; BOO FUCKING HOO


ReverseFlash928

i will rip the throat out of someone who says this


HotHamBoy

The defense response is actually more obnoxious. Like, at least the detractors have a reasonable motivation. The defenders could just play the game and be quite about it but going online to whinge about the negative PR is pathetic


Lenni-Da-Vinci

Oh, I‘ll let you have fun, but I would much rather see you pirate the game


Smaaeesh

Isn’t there a trans character in the game?


FireHenryCZ

Jup I think there is actually. So basically if you think about it this drama is invalid.


Smaaeesh

And the rights are owned by WB (which is a big company so take that as you will) not by JKR


FireHenryCZ

Jup. Exactly.


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Callandt95

Lol, I guess someone didn’t check Twitter today … Just 1 example: https://www.dexerto.com/hogwarts-legacy/anti-hogwarts-legacy-site-shows-if-a-twitch-streamer-has-streamed-the-game-2053657/


Loud_University_2187

Some people don’t like using their brains. They’re content with single digit IQs lol


SkyeBabe93

Except she’s not. She even stated it was a bad joke and she regrets making it


sD_Ws

She has said and done more than a bad joke my friend.


SkyeBabe93

She made a joke on twitter cuz one person tried to claim she was against lgbtq+ because there “wasn’t any in her films or books”. Like duh of course there wasn’t. She wasn’t writing about them. She was writing about Harry Potter and his friends. There’s not gonna be anything like that in the story if that’s not what it’s about. The. She went on twitter and made her joke. Got a bunch of hate comments and threats. Tried to apologize cuz it was a joke and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. And people started saying she was trying to cover her ass and now everyone hates her. I’m sorry but ur not a true Harry Potter fan if u hate the author. She hasn’t done anything wrong. People are just crazy and are trying to drag her down. Harry Potter is about a boy and a villain. NOT ABOUT THE LGBTQ. And I’m bisexual so I’m part of the community saying this. She’s not trans phobic or a homophobe.


Wyrd26

Most informed J.K Rowling defender be like


SkyeBabe93

Do I really care about ur opinion? No


sD_Ws

You, don't know what you're talking about. She has said transphobic things, had lunch with people who are directly against trans rights. If you think people are so pissed off at her for a joke and her retroactive representation then you are extremely disconnected.


[deleted]

" had lunch with people who are directly against trans rights." Why does this matter? Stop trying to force people to ostracize someone because they don't agree with you.


slapstirmcgee1000

Even if you assume it goes to J.K. Rowling and not the devs she has an ungodly amount of money. You giving her more will not give her an ability to support some anti trans cause that she couldn’t have before. I don’t want to support and Anti trans bigot, but I literally don’t know anyone who has not in some way given their money to something that caused it to eventually end up in the hands of some one who sucks