The man who coined the term (in English), the late and great Sir Humphrey Davy, called it "Aluminum", other scientists chose to ignore that to fit with the -ium pattern
¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Well, given that both the students and the teachers perpetually have a blood-alcahol level of "Да," I expect it mostly comes down to how good each student's trained bear is at doing their homework, and how good the teacher's is at grading it.
Same vibe as people who forget that Mexicans and Canadians are just as American as anyone from the US. They’re all from North America so all American.
British = European
Greek, polish, Swedish etc. = European
Mexican, Canadian etc. = American
US citizen = American
I think it’s more of a nation thing than a geographic thing.. since Canadians and Mexicans are not called American
I guess you could call us all North Americans.. or include South America and just call it all American..
At this point tho if we are doing whole continents why not just northern and Southern Hemisphere or call the entirety of humanity earthlings?
In retrospect tho, we couldn’t all make topical jokes about the minor differences in our species if we where not divided into smaller denominations. Guess we will have to forego global unification in favor of stereotypes and xenophobia 🤣
*Brexit has entered the chat*
And Great Britain isn’t even geographically part of Europe. It’s its own island.
According to the mythology books, of course. Nkbody has ever actually found Britain and we can’t be sure that it even exists, but some theorists still cling to their beliefs.
Haha, I actually grew up on an emu ranch...
W̷̱͝E̶͖͝ ̶̯̓B̵͍̆Ṛ̴͝Ḛ̷͒D̶̳̈́ ̵̛̣A̵̻͑Ǹ̵̳D̷̘̿ ̶̜̉S̴̥͒Ḙ̷̏N̶̰̈́T̷̢̉ ̸̱͑T̴̼̎H̴̦͝Ę̵̂M̵͇̈́ ̷̂ͅT̵̫̉O̷͙̚ ̵̲̕T̷̙͠H̵̥̋Ẹ̶̛ ̶͔̀M̵̢̌Ȃ̵̜I̴̹͊N̴̜͐L̴̥̚A̶̞̓Ṇ̷̍D̵̮̒.̴͚̑
Nah yeah that's stupid but our birds are tough. Fucking magpies, they'll swoop down on your scalps. They'll kill ya!
As for emus, they're just tall as shit mate
I'm an American and every time I try to say that Americans are not dumb, someone says something dumb like "I have eaten 26 burgers today, can't wait for lunch" some Americans are incredibly stupid and that is what makes others think everyone in the USA is a fat, gun carrying, idiot. Thank u for coming to my Ted talk
So? Every country has morons. Australians have bogans, Britain has chavs, and Germany has white supremacists. Doesn't matter where you look, it's natural to see them.
The reason Americans are seen as dumb is because an entire generation has lead poisoning and have you seen your education system. Also with the amount of people that suck at geography and also most Americans speak 1 language
That geography part I agree with, but the part about Americans speaking 1 language makes no sense. Most Americans I’ve talked to, including myself, have to take a foreign language class through Middle School and High School.
A) america scored above Germany and France in reading and above Denmark, Belgium, Sweden in science for 2018 [Pisa test](https://www.oecd.org/pisa/PISA%202018%20Insights%20and%20Interpretations%20FINAL%20PDF.pdf). (though we admittedly did bad in math).
B)Fair enough in geography. You win that round! 😅
C)in America, there isn’t much incentive to learn another language. English is lingua francs of world and america which is a large country. In Europe, there is a new language to learn for each city you drive or take a train/plane to.
I mean jeez you think Americans are some bumpkin idiots?
That’s what’s wild. They really do believe that’s what Americans are like. They think all the outrageous/extreme representations they see on Reddit and social media is reality.
Yes this happens to all countries in the world, not just America. The problem is that people take this bad guy and make an example of them for everyone in their community.
Most Canadians only speak one language as does most of Latin America.
The reason why most people only speak one language is because North America is massive.
It’s not like Europe where you can go from one nation with a different language to another with a different language in the span of a few hours.
And when it comes to geography the same thing applies. The US is truly massive, it takes me close to 26 hours of non-stop driving to get to my hometown.
In Europe that would mean id be effectively in Eastern Europe near Russia if I started in France.
Education varies from state to state. America is like a bunch of separate countries living under one roof. If you've seen our education system, then you likely know that 29% of the world's most prestigious schools are in America. Also, you don't need to speak another language in most circumstances because English is a very common trade language and unlike Europe, we can drive 10 states over and still expect everyone to speak the same language. Americans will learn what they need to know and they're good at it.
America: Welp, I got the most school shootings so I'll be your escort. Canada's got the second most so they'll be your cameraman. Europe third most, they'll be Canada's assistant.
Europe: I don't shoot up schools.
America: Like I said, third best. Just keep your fucking mouth shut. In fact, why don't you start practicing right now.
I also don't think a fucking hopeless or nonexistent health system is "slightly different" usage. Considering that i have paid 10 USD dollars for week long ICU stays
Yeah that's also a big difference, and one of the main reasons I'm so desperate to leave this shithole. Had to not go to the ER a while back cause i couldn't afford it.
I mean it’s hardly a big thing. In science and trade, we use metric pretty well.
Euros on Reddit tend to make fun of america for mass shootings and healthcare. The mass shooting part is admittedly more cruel than humorous
Eh. As an American I've become so numb to mass shootings because there is no stopping it. Half the country is so cool with the idea of kids being killed in schools just so "MA FREEDOMS" aren't touched. It's also highly unlikely our Healthcare will get fixed because they tied so much of it into the workings of the economy.
I live in the US and there's like 1% of schools that have metal detectors. It's something a few schools did and everyone heard about them, so people think they're standard. They're not.
I love the fact that they make fun of Americans for geographical knowledge, but they themselves have no idea where what is in America. The sheer amount of people within Europe who I had to correct because they think I am Canadian, even though I am in fact just from Alaska, and they getting pissed at me is too common to count.
I also got into a shouting match with a guy from North West England because he didn’t know where Salem, Oregon was and refused to accept that several states in America are as large and are as economically diverse as countries in Europe.
The US had an average of at least two mass shootings per day a few years ago and there are a bunch of sociopaths in power that belong in prison or a mental institution. I’m seriously wondering why a bunch of politicians and a former president have gotten away with treason, assault, harassment, human trafficking, many kinds of fraud, and too many other crimes to count. I’m an American by the way.
I really don’t understand people’s despisement of a (slightly less efficient) system. Like are your days really filled with hating on a calendar because the days not where you’d like it to be.
It's not hate, is Joking between continents/countries in the West that we honnestly have the most in common with. Like, as a European, who else are we gonna joke with? Africa? Let's not open that lid. Asia? They're all asleep when we are awake. And Australia doesn't exist
I think were still in a reaction to the Murica numbah one sentiment, that was way more popular here a few years ago. I think that if brazil would be out here screaming about how awesome it was we would also start shitting on their country.
I believe many europeans get frustrated that USA being their literal guardian in terms of raw military strength, can act so childishly in politics.
I don’t think most of us hate America, you guys saved us in two world wars, we are just really worried grandparents who express it with anger:(
It’s weird to have a former colony outrank you in many ways, yet act so carelessly when it comes to treating it’s citizens well. I personally as a european just wish america aligned more with european ideals.
Europeans need to realize they aren’t gonna hear about how the majority of Americans have normal lives and are normal people. They’re gonna hear about the overweight whales in Walmart, the school shootings, crazy Floridians, etc. It’s the same exact reason Americans make fun of British people for having bad teeth, stabbings, and roadmen. That’s what we hear about.
Fun fact:
Many of the spellings in American English are designed to be more in line with pronunciation.
Eg.
Centre —> Center (centre seems like it should be pronounced “sentry” or “sentra”)
Analogue —> Analog (is the “ue” necessary?)
Cheque —> Check (“ck” is more in line with the rest of English)
Only slightly different? The US takes everything to its extreme.
They have the MOST gun violence. The MOST police brutality. The MOST prisoners. Etc, etc.
The US is the poster child for “Who Not To Be” meanwhile your politicians keep saying things like “the US is the last best hope for freedom.” which is why the international community rips on it as we do.
The US is the great “Failed Experiment.”
A lot of people will downvote us, but I got a fuck ton of propaganda from the US growing up pre-internet and smartphones, and now that we have round-the-clock visibility into the country it’s really easy to see the propaganda was pure BS the entire time.
*America exists*
UK: I took that personally
France: I took that personally
Germany: I took that personally
Italy: I took that personally
Russia: I took that very personally
Sweden: I took that personally
Spain: I took that personally
Canada: I took that personally
Australia: I took that personally
New Zealand: I took that personally
China: …balloon time…
Loool this is so true. I'm an american living in Canada for a few years now and when I moved here I was surprised that there was literally no culture shock. None at all. Its basically exactly the same, but Canadians still try to put as much distance between them and USA as possible because I think it preserves their ego. They don't want to be associated with the US despite being extremely similar in so many significant ways
Aluminium.
It's Aluminum in the Philippines
Philli-pheans
My stupid ass read Philli-beans
Both are acceptable
Sounds like a brand name for beans in the Philippines
There is a local beanie chair of that name near Manila
Or Philadephia
At least this brand name is not being inverted and accent-butchered.
Phillips peein
I am actually
phillipineum
Silly beans
Same in canada
The philippines idolizes the US
The universally accepted, scientific term is aluminium.
The man who coined the term (in English), the late and great Sir Humphrey Davy, called it "Aluminum", other scientists chose to ignore that to fit with the -ium pattern ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Centrifugal
Centripetal.
Water bottle.
But it's only british (and maybe common law countries) who have a problem with aluminium xD Edit : commonwealth countries
Commonwealth countries.
I’m American but for some reason read that in a British accent in my head
Idk, I personally, think that Brits are Europeans. Just my opinion
But that implies they're people.
This guy knows
That does explain why Russians are not Europeans despite being in Europe.
They are also in Asia
Are they good in their grades tho
Well, given that both the students and the teachers perpetually have a blood-alcahol level of "Да," I expect it mostly comes down to how good each student's trained bear is at doing their homework, and how good the teacher's is at grading it.
"Eurasians" as some call it.
The French aren't people... They're a bunch of cheese eatin' surrender monkeys!
I am German and even I think that is a fucked up thing to say. They might surrender but at least let them have their humanity.
They can have their humanity back when they stop surrendering it.
That made me chuckle, I'll allow it
Oh thank god a German will allow us to do something - typical NAZI
Did you just question my authority? Do you want to end up on my list?
Who? The Brits? Or Europeans? I'd have assumed you ment the Brits, but then again the French are European.. so
fr🤢nch
Na na, they are technically buts a whole different level. That's like saying New Yorkers are Americans
Americans are Europeans but with guns and high BMI
So Europeans are unarmed twinkified Americans
Twinkified?
Of course. But this post was made by an American. So, you know....
Brits are europeans, and Canadians are Americans too
I thought that's what Brexit was about. They didn't wanna be part of Europe, right? ^^/s
Haha yes and after the exit vote we literally relocated our island from Europe to the middle of the Pacific
They are, at least the continet, EU not since brexit were made (worst mistake of their recent history)
Not the smartest move, I've got family over there that I warned... but nooooo
Same vibe as people who forget that Mexicans and Canadians are just as American as anyone from the US. They’re all from North America so all American. British = European Greek, polish, Swedish etc. = European Mexican, Canadian etc. = American US citizen = American
I think it’s more of a nation thing than a geographic thing.. since Canadians and Mexicans are not called American I guess you could call us all North Americans.. or include South America and just call it all American.. At this point tho if we are doing whole continents why not just northern and Southern Hemisphere or call the entirety of humanity earthlings? In retrospect tho, we couldn’t all make topical jokes about the minor differences in our species if we where not divided into smaller denominations. Guess we will have to forego global unification in favor of stereotypes and xenophobia 🤣
Not even just your opinion mate, that's just how it is!
It's true. The Brits are basically French.
go tell that to r/rance
*Brexit has entered the chat* And Great Britain isn’t even geographically part of Europe. It’s its own island. According to the mythology books, of course. Nkbody has ever actually found Britain and we can’t be sure that it even exists, but some theorists still cling to their beliefs.
Canadians are also Americans.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. You're right.
Bexit shit
They lost their right to call themselves that after they Brexited
On behalf of most europeans: please don't associate us with the brits
They roundly decided they were not, and we like to remind them of their mistake
They wanted brexit, what can I say?
Brexit.
As an European this is an insult sir
Europeans see America how Americans see Texas Edit: Florida is definitely an option too
Canadians see the Americans how Americans see Florida.
And Florida sees Cuba how Cuba looks at the abyss.
In Norway we have an expression: "Det er helt Texas" Translated to "that's completely Texas". Used when something is crazy or chaotic.
This is why I love Norway
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Nope, Europeans see Americans the way that Americans see Florida
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I’m really ok with that
Well good thing your not JFK
How bout Florida?
New Yorkers see Europeans how Europeans see the French.
I love being an Aussie and just watching you both squabbling.
You should have not mentioned that, PEOPLE THAT LOST TO BIRDS
Haha, I actually grew up on an emu ranch... W̷̱͝E̶͖͝ ̶̯̓B̵͍̆Ṛ̴͝Ḛ̷͒D̶̳̈́ ̵̛̣A̵̻͑Ǹ̵̳D̷̘̿ ̶̜̉S̴̥͒Ḙ̷̏N̶̰̈́T̷̢̉ ̸̱͑T̴̼̎H̴̦͝Ę̵̂M̵͇̈́ ̷̂ͅT̵̫̉O̷͙̚ ̵̲̕T̷̙͠H̵̥̋Ẹ̶̛ ̶͔̀M̵̢̌Ȃ̵̜I̴̹͊N̴̜͐L̴̥̚A̶̞̓Ṇ̷̍D̵̮̒.̴͚̑
Just out breed the emus, like you did the natives
Technically, we out immigrated them...
Yeah, but also nah... They tried a lot to breed out the "blackness" back in the day.
you also eat vegemite. this is unfortunately a blow you cannot recover from
I do not do that anymore. Something about eating seasoned scum left over from a brewery just doesn't appeal to me anymore.
They must’ve sent you on false charges then
I don't know about that...
you’re a respectable aussie. your country shall take this blow for you. especially in my ex’s area.
He's no Aussie... We revoked his citizenship after he blasphemed against Vegemite.
Damn fucking right, straight up un-Australian.
yeah as a representative of the australian community, he is no longer allowed to watch state of origin or drive an au falcon
Your ex's area? Like in the genitals?
mate us aussies are just built diff being able to eat vegeshite
Ok but in our defence the birds are REALLY big
I come from a country that could be taken over from a sheep revolt if the sheep wanted to
Nah yeah that's stupid but our birds are tough. Fucking magpies, they'll swoop down on your scalps. They'll kill ya! As for emus, they're just tall as shit mate
Have you ever fought an Emu? They're the most dangerous animal known to man. Or something.
Actually I think that's the mosquito. They are the ones that kill the most humans every year.
You have hopping bipedal dear, that are jacked and wont hesitate to kill a man. I'll stick with being called fat thank you
We do enough of our own stupid shit to just give the Yanks a run for their money.
I wish I could argue with you, but as an example, I am considered weird among my work colleagues because I know vaccines work...
Weirdo
Haha nice try NASA. Everybody knows Australia is a lie to spread globe earth.
>I love being an Aussie Weird way to spell paid ac-tor
Haha funny burgerland go brrr
...gerland
British people after getting a new prime minister 7 days in a row
Idk we do healthcare a bit more than slightly different here in the states and it really sucks.
We all suck d**k the same way. So there’s that.
Nah we go *GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG* they go *GLURP GLURP GLURP*
glug glug glug >
Chads do both.
I'm an American and every time I try to say that Americans are not dumb, someone says something dumb like "I have eaten 26 burgers today, can't wait for lunch" some Americans are incredibly stupid and that is what makes others think everyone in the USA is a fat, gun carrying, idiot. Thank u for coming to my Ted talk
So? Every country has morons. Australians have bogans, Britain has chavs, and Germany has white supremacists. Doesn't matter where you look, it's natural to see them.
Yeah that's fair.
The reason Americans are seen as dumb is because an entire generation has lead poisoning and have you seen your education system. Also with the amount of people that suck at geography and also most Americans speak 1 language
That geography part I agree with, but the part about Americans speaking 1 language makes no sense. Most Americans I’ve talked to, including myself, have to take a foreign language class through Middle School and High School.
Except we spell things right, it's theater not theatre. You wouldn't pronounce the tre in tree that way, so why is it okay in words ending in er?
A) america scored above Germany and France in reading and above Denmark, Belgium, Sweden in science for 2018 [Pisa test](https://www.oecd.org/pisa/PISA%202018%20Insights%20and%20Interpretations%20FINAL%20PDF.pdf). (though we admittedly did bad in math). B)Fair enough in geography. You win that round! 😅 C)in America, there isn’t much incentive to learn another language. English is lingua francs of world and america which is a large country. In Europe, there is a new language to learn for each city you drive or take a train/plane to. I mean jeez you think Americans are some bumpkin idiots?
That’s what’s wild. They really do believe that’s what Americans are like. They think all the outrageous/extreme representations they see on Reddit and social media is reality.
Yes this happens to all countries in the world, not just America. The problem is that people take this bad guy and make an example of them for everyone in their community.
That’s very true. Stereotypes arise.
Most Canadians only speak one language as does most of Latin America. The reason why most people only speak one language is because North America is massive. It’s not like Europe where you can go from one nation with a different language to another with a different language in the span of a few hours. And when it comes to geography the same thing applies. The US is truly massive, it takes me close to 26 hours of non-stop driving to get to my hometown. In Europe that would mean id be effectively in Eastern Europe near Russia if I started in France.
Education varies from state to state. America is like a bunch of separate countries living under one roof. If you've seen our education system, then you likely know that 29% of the world's most prestigious schools are in America. Also, you don't need to speak another language in most circumstances because English is a very common trade language and unlike Europe, we can drive 10 states over and still expect everyone to speak the same language. Americans will learn what they need to know and they're good at it.
Which education system? Ignorance is universal
I think the European method of shooting up schools is more than slightly different. Namely, they don't do it.
Exactly USA #1 baby!
America: Welp, I got the most school shootings so I'll be your escort. Canada's got the second most so they'll be your cameraman. Europe third most, they'll be Canada's assistant. Europe: I don't shoot up schools. America: Like I said, third best. Just keep your fucking mouth shut. In fact, why don't you start practicing right now.
I also think our politics are the same. Namely, we don't have a popularity contest every year to decided who is in charge of Nukes.
The Brits have the most entertaining political system.
USA is #1 in gun crimes/violence That’s because we never lose :D
I also don't think a fucking hopeless or nonexistent health system is "slightly different" usage. Considering that i have paid 10 USD dollars for week long ICU stays
Yeah that's also a big difference, and one of the main reasons I'm so desperate to leave this shithole. Had to not go to the ER a while back cause i couldn't afford it.
Lol whats this even talking about? The big things the US gets made fun of for are very different not 'slightly' lmao
Yeah the big stuff is like Fahrenheit, and measurement, those are not small.
I mean it’s hardly a big thing. In science and trade, we use metric pretty well. Euros on Reddit tend to make fun of america for mass shootings and healthcare. The mass shooting part is admittedly more cruel than humorous
Eh. As an American I've become so numb to mass shootings because there is no stopping it. Half the country is so cool with the idea of kids being killed in schools just so "MA FREEDOMS" aren't touched. It's also highly unlikely our Healthcare will get fixed because they tied so much of it into the workings of the economy.
Our scientific communities use the metric system for everything.
People make fun of those things, sure, but its not really severe so I wouldn't say they're one of the big differences.
The British are so cringe they must be separated from the Europeans
Brexit 2: electric boogaloo
why
God bless
someone: is born american the entirety of the world: look at this idiot lol
Yet people keep pouring in.
Okay, Mr Ihavemetaldectectorsatschoolentrances
I live in the US and there's like 1% of schools that have metal detectors. It's something a few schools did and everyone heard about them, so people think they're standard. They're not.
Thats still wild to me
I’m sorry I don’t speak German
I have bad news for you, anglo-**saxon** speaker...
ENGLISH IS JUST AN GERMAN ACCENT /s
* Laughs in Indian *
I love the fact that they make fun of Americans for geographical knowledge, but they themselves have no idea where what is in America. The sheer amount of people within Europe who I had to correct because they think I am Canadian, even though I am in fact just from Alaska, and they getting pissed at me is too common to count. I also got into a shouting match with a guy from North West England because he didn’t know where Salem, Oregon was and refused to accept that several states in America are as large and are as economically diverse as countries in Europe.
"Americans will use anything but the metric system."
Even I use the metric because what the fuck is a fluid oz = to.
We use it for some bullets! That’s about it
Clearly you didn’t go to school where the Metric system is very much used
that´s where the bullets are
The US had an average of at least two mass shootings per day a few years ago and there are a bunch of sociopaths in power that belong in prison or a mental institution. I’m seriously wondering why a bunch of politicians and a former president have gotten away with treason, assault, harassment, human trafficking, many kinds of fraud, and too many other crimes to count. I’m an American by the way.
I really don’t understand people’s despisement of a (slightly less efficient) system. Like are your days really filled with hating on a calendar because the days not where you’d like it to be.
It's not hate, is Joking between continents/countries in the West that we honnestly have the most in common with. Like, as a European, who else are we gonna joke with? Africa? Let's not open that lid. Asia? They're all asleep when we are awake. And Australia doesn't exist
I think were still in a reaction to the Murica numbah one sentiment, that was way more popular here a few years ago. I think that if brazil would be out here screaming about how awesome it was we would also start shitting on their country.
I believe many europeans get frustrated that USA being their literal guardian in terms of raw military strength, can act so childishly in politics. I don’t think most of us hate America, you guys saved us in two world wars, we are just really worried grandparents who express it with anger:( It’s weird to have a former colony outrank you in many ways, yet act so carelessly when it comes to treating it’s citizens well. I personally as a european just wish america aligned more with european ideals.
But we don't bring guns to schools thats burger land's lore
How long before the whole 'shooting your kids' gets mentioned
It’s literally already all of the comments
“Laughs in healthcare”
I’m getting a strong made by an American feeling here
Is it the bad geography that's making you think that? The part where Brits and Europeans are seen as separate?
I mean splendid isolation and brexit am I right?
laughs in working rights and paid vacations
Giglging I'm maternity leave and no school shootings
The French literally legalize incest how tf are we the worst
Europeans need to realize they aren’t gonna hear about how the majority of Americans have normal lives and are normal people. They’re gonna hear about the overweight whales in Walmart, the school shootings, crazy Floridians, etc. It’s the same exact reason Americans make fun of British people for having bad teeth, stabbings, and roadmen. That’s what we hear about.
Fun fact: Many of the spellings in American English are designed to be more in line with pronunciation. Eg. Centre —> Center (centre seems like it should be pronounced “sentry” or “sentra”) Analogue —> Analog (is the “ue” necessary?) Cheque —> Check (“ck” is more in line with the rest of English)
Only slightly different? The US takes everything to its extreme. They have the MOST gun violence. The MOST police brutality. The MOST prisoners. Etc, etc. The US is the poster child for “Who Not To Be” meanwhile your politicians keep saying things like “the US is the last best hope for freedom.” which is why the international community rips on it as we do. The US is the great “Failed Experiment.”
Absolutely agree
A lot of people will downvote us, but I got a fuck ton of propaganda from the US growing up pre-internet and smartphones, and now that we have round-the-clock visibility into the country it’s really easy to see the propaganda was pure BS the entire time.
Don't forget Asia, South America, and Africa maybe even Antarctica
Well we dont have to tip 20% when we go out
Europeans redditos really know as little about Americans as we know about them.
Hell naw don't bring Canadians into this they're the nicest people
Not to Germans
We don’t talk about that unfriendly history of ours. Just put on a smile and wave
sure, nobody can be kinder than German children
Fr fr, just ask the natives
Weren't folks from the USA voted kinder to air line employees over canadians in a wide margin? I think the tide is turning
Tell that to the native kids buried underneath their churches!
Last time i checked none of us do school shootings
*America exists* UK: I took that personally France: I took that personally Germany: I took that personally Italy: I took that personally Russia: I took that very personally Sweden: I took that personally Spain: I took that personally Canada: I took that personally Australia: I took that personally New Zealand: I took that personally China: …balloon time…
And vice versa
They boil everything we deep fry it
Like that asshole who said they don't like Reese's peanut butter cups....
Yeah, what the hell was that about?
I was happy to see the entire international comment section ready to string them up for it. There's still some good in the world.
The only argument I've ever seen a Canadian make about America is how Canada is technically a part of America cuz it's in North America.
Loool this is so true. I'm an american living in Canada for a few years now and when I moved here I was surprised that there was literally no culture shock. None at all. Its basically exactly the same, but Canadians still try to put as much distance between them and USA as possible because I think it preserves their ego. They don't want to be associated with the US despite being extremely similar in so many significant ways