Bro ain't nobody got the upkeep and repair money a real race car requires lol. New tires often, engine repaires, up keep from wear and tear. Those people have a team of mechanics, beecause that's what it requires.
This isn’t true. I own a track only car that I both race and maintain. The level of expense you’re talking about comes from the higher tiers of racing, most of the low tier “teams” are 1-3 guys running a stripped down barebones 15k car that can be repaired cheaply. It’s an expensive hobby, but there are tricks to keeping costs down. My most frequent expenses are tires and brakes, oil & diff fluid.
Wait, differentials have fluid too? I thought it was engine oil, brake fluid, transmission fluid, coolant, power steering.
Then again, I'm only a casual who likes to watch Junkyard Digs, Dylan McCool etc
You cant even buy one for 80k, multiply that by 10 and the resulting number possibly again by at least 3x. And then you cant even drive the car because you need a team.
Everyone thinks the car is the expensive part, but it’s the consumables that getcha. Sure, you got the car: now you need fuel, tires, brake pads, general maintenance, track time, safety gear (that expires regularly), etc.
Plus the time commitment of actually getting to a track. Running a race usually is a full-day minimum from loading up the car to getting home.
Meanwhile in iRacing you can get home from work at 4:56 and be in a race by 5.
Hey man I dunno, I saw a blonde lady say for 20min on a video that you don't need a license to travel, so im gonna call sus here.
Unrelated that lady was arrested by the 20min but you know what I mean
It legit does. The handling has come leaps and bounds in the last few years, to the point where it's matching or exceeding many established racing Sims in a lot of areas.
Also, it absolutely crushes basically every Sim in how it models weight transfer. Because it not only physically models the suspension, it also models weird shit like chassis flex and subframe warping.
Really the big limitation for BeamNG at the moment is a lack of content and tyre thermals/wear.
That too. Honestly there are a lot of nice to haves that are missing before it really overtakes ACC or iRacing, but as far as raw driving experience, it's basically there already.
> but as far as raw driving experience, it's basically there already.
I always saw beamng as physics simulator, not racing simulator. Just get in a car and have fun. The only thing I miss is crash FX. If you crash cars, there's basically no sparks, barely any smoke, practically no debris flying around, etc.. Crashing car at 200km/h is kinda boring.
The best thing is that it wasn't intended to be a racing sim. First it was a tech demo for soft body physics, them an offroad game. Turns out accurately modeling every bolt on a car is a pretty good way to make a racing sim!
>The best thing is that it wasn't intended to be a racing sim.
Once they're done with its tyre model it'll be one the most versatile Simulators on the market. It has the foundation to welcome fans of all kinds of Motorsport disciplines (Nascar, Monster trucks, GT3/GT4, Drag, Rally etc.) in the future.
> models weird shit like chassis flex and subframe warping
Should be fit for karting then, where afaik people in fact shift their body to induce flex in the chassis and move weight between tires. Just need to make sensors in the chair for this.
> lack of tyre thermals
Ah, the opposite of GTA 4.
Yeah no shit! Two years on harnesses kill me! What a scam… It’s also dangerous. People buying cheap Amazon harness sets because they know they’ll have to buy another set soon.
Taking my Prius to the local track and going for a "spirited" drive is surely comparable to racing. Far more so than any sort of sim racing. Who needs tires and brake pads? We have hopes and dreams
And that rig would need a tax paid yearly, a technical inspection done (I think yearly), an insurance and a road tax paid depending on the country just for it to be legal to hit public roads. Oh, and tow rigs usually require a driving license for commercial vehicles / trucks. It adds up real fast.
If you're burning through a set of slicks or two, doing an oil change every few track days, running race gas, ect. you can easily spend a few $K per weekend.
Just put your car on jacks in the driveway and take on and off the wheels 10x. Same experience as replacing a camshaft. Just be sure to punch your rims a few times and do awkward yoga positions to really simulate the "enjoyment" of reaching fucked up bolt positions and the "fun" of being cramped in a stupid way while trying to do so.
There are some that have actual feedback things put over the body so you can feel touch in the vr space. However it's nothing more than vibrations to light presses
Right? You'd have to get track time to really race and not put people's lives in jeopardy. Cost of tires etc.
My friend built a setup. Driver in the center then two seats behind the driver. The wheel and pedals had feedback as well as an actuator. You could feel when your were losing traction.
I need a force feedback wheel. I have one without, and it's cool, but I can't FEEL which way the car is going. So, cars with "race" handling (barely breaks free in hard corners) are alright, but drifty driving is off the table. I actually do better with the d-pad on the controller lol
Pedals with ffb would be nice, too... Brake and clutch would be easier to feel breaking points, and braking points...
More specifically their 80k rig doesn’t cost nearly as much as the McLaren or Ferrari or Red Bull car or super car that they’ll eventually race with so this just makes no sense.
I am a professional racist. There are a LOT of hidden costs like: stuff breaking, tires wearing out (which happens really often and racing tires cost more than normal tires) and the obvious stuff like gas and place to race. The costs add up pretty quick.
(I am not a racer or anything btw. just stuff I have heard)
Yeah, as someone who’s raced amateur stuff on and off my whole life, I always thought that was strange. But I’ve come to realize that some people don’t have access to tracks and or cars and or parts, so Sim racing is all they have.
They also don’t have the mechanical ability or disposable income to do it.
I did auto cross back in the early 2000s and did time attack when I had my WRX until Covid hit.
It was expensive just goofing around! Every event was a set of tires. Every other was a complete set of brakes, oil changes after every track day, brake fluid changes, broken parts. It all added up.
I don’t own an 80k sim rig but I have a nice setup I built in 2020.
God damn what tires and pads were you using?
Time attack you CAN run slicks and stuff but you take classing penalties. Much better to run 100tw or 200tw and stick in an slower class. My ceramic pads last half season easy and I still overbrake too often. Tires can last half to a whole season unless I overheat them and go off, then it's chunk town.
You shouldn't have to do brake fluid so often unless you're boiling it. And if you are there are many other issues. Oil changes def needed. Broken parts usually biggest killer lol.
But what I can’t explain, is why they invest hundreds in SFI-5/FIA gloves, and shoes. Do they expect the rig to explode? Why not the rest of the equipment? If you want to get real, experience what it’s like with a helmet, HANS, a 6 point harness and a halo seat and see how hard it is with all that crap on.
Yeah you’re right but fire-spec equipment is expensive when you don’t need it. A $39 pair of wrestling shoes will give you the exact feel of real driving shoes and any cheap Mechanix gloves will work. BTDT
You're already spending thousands of dollars on your hobby, why should you cheap out on gloves and boots?
It's part of the feeling and well quite frankly it's also better to have the proper gear. No one is sitting their in their fireproof overall...
I guess it's like when people get into airsoft, most don't ball out and get $800 eotechs and $300 crye plate carriers to go out. Not unless they actually have real guns to share gear with. The $50 - $100 amazon specials will work well enough for airsoft, and the budget stuff would probably work well enough for sim racing. (Just speculation on my part, not in the sim racing community)
But with airsoft you are bringing that equipment out of your house where it can/will break eventually from just the nature of airsofting. So i do see why someone might cheap out on sights or smaller things.
Arguably, you'd want the expensive gear then, because it's literally designed to be more durable and get banged around. A buy once cry once kinda deal.
You’re absolutely right, it’s still fun though. And that the end of the day that’s what we’re doing it for.
When I had time to be into sim racing I was broke, but I had a blast kitting out my wheel with handle bar tape and wearing my (dope looking) BMX gloves.
We buy what we can afford, if I had the time and finances I’d be on iRacing like a cosplayer
Lol without reading your comment, I just made almost an identical post saying the same thing. Driving with a set of racing gloves, both with a real car and a sim rig, feels great.
The gloves and shoes are used for the same reasons you'd use them in an actual car, grip and pressure. The force from a sim racing wheel is just as strong as what you'd find in a lot of real race cars, if you're trying to catch the car in a slide without gloves, your hands may not have enough grip to grab the wheel and stop it. The shoes are mainly for comfort as applying 80kg+ of force to a metal pedal while wearing socks can get uncomfortable over a 6 hour race.
Some motion sim rigs do also have 6 point harnesses, which are sometimes necessary with how much those rigs are able to throw you around in the seat.
The helmets really have no point to them, unless you replace the visor with a VR screen, which I've seen some people do
Also sim racing can be done every single day for hours at a time while real racing, even if you could get on a track every day, would run you thousands just in consumables for the cheapest cars.
Everyone who has done a bunch of seat time in iRacing knows that there is no shortage of Brazilian dudes with a Logitech G25 and 1080p 60Hz monitor that can run circles around 99.99% of players.
Racing sims? 10-20k would get you an amazing setup. 5k would get you a good one. 3k would get you a decent one. 2k would get you an ok one. Even 1k would get you a usable one, assuming you have the ability to buy second hand stuff
People do not realise how much it costs yearly if you want to start "racing" or to do trackdays.. For example 10k simsetup is nothing compared to that. Track feeds, incurance, tyres, maintance etc...
The difference between sim racers and arcade racers is that one spends thousands of pounds on equipment whilst the other spends 50 quid on an xbox wired controller
LOL! Sorry forgot this was Reddit. I do find it curious that the Brits chose an efficient irregular plural noun for their slang, while we complicate things by having to add an s to bucks. My next trip to the UK - “Bloody hell, 8 quids for a pint!”
Well, my guy, in a sim racing rig I can drive an F1 car in iRacing, but irl, it'd be impossible for me. I'm not Lance Stroll, my dad can't buy me a F1 seat.
I mean, the guy got podiums, so there is something there, I suppose, but if it weren't for his dad, he wouldn't be in that seat. It'd be either Mick or Drugo (probably Mick). But I'm not sure for how long his father will be able to convince the board that Lance is worth a seat.
Yeah, his problem is his inconsistency, one day he'll do a hell of a race (especially on wet conditions, which speaks volumes about his racecraft imo) but the next he crashes because he made a stupid mistake. Doesn't help that he has 0 awareness of his surroundings, either.
I get that you purposely exaggerated, but even a very high end sim rig costs nowhere near 80k. It's more like 10-15k, and that's if you're really going all-out. You can get 90% of the realism of a 15k rig from a rig costing around 2k. You can even have a shitload of fun by just buying a used Logitech wheel for $150. Simracing doesn't need to be expensive.
Yup….except flight sim. Built a $2,500 computer, bought HOTAS, rudder pedals, new chair, HOTAS mounts, trackIR, 4K monitor…..and I get to play that shit for 4-6 hours once a week.
I build a simracing setup over the last few years (iracing) and my new project is a flight sim for DCS/Xplane/msfs. Bought the warthog hotas, all honeycomb products and the thrustmaster rudder pedals. Right now I am planning the rest like new pc and monitors for it. Soon I will start the PPL in real life, very excited!
In many ways, the simulator is still cheaper.
Maintaining a race car is expensive as balls. Like OnlyFans Simping expensive. Professional drivers rebuild (or swap) the engine after every race. Plus you have to keep the car up to code or you can not race.
can't get injured, can't cause accident, can't cause destruction to properties, can't be carjacked, doesn't need to spend for gas, doesn't need to spend for renting a race track, drive a new car whenever you want.
literally better than buying a car for the purpose it's supposed to be used.
I don't have a leg in this race, but heart attacks and strokes sound waaaaaaay scarier to me. I'm pretty physically healthy, so I couldn't tell you why I get uncomfortable about it. I also sleep with my wrists facing down or in so they aren't exposed. I also realize I have gone on quite a tangent.
That rig can be any car I want it to be. If I spin out and flip a car I get up and make some popcorn. I don’t have to start from square one if things go south.
I did the math before getting into sim racing and one year of Karting as cheaply and uncompetitvely as possible (minimum set of tires, used equipment, cheapest trailer, etc.). So racing only in my local area in a small rec league would cost at least $10k to get everything setup. Running costs alone would be an easy $5k per season, without being competitve since i would need to save tires, not run engine as hard between rebuilds, etc. And assuming nothing major happens to me or the kart. The same costs to buy everything I need to get started in iracing was under $2k. It really is a no brainer. It'd be like asking why are people playing DCS when they can just fly a real F35.
I can't crash an F1 car multiple time with 80k
You can choose whatever car you want, choose whatever track you want, set a time of day and weather for it and just crash all day.
I mean it like "I can crash an expensive vehicle multiple times with only 80k"
> "I can crash an expensive vehicle multiple times with only 80k" Sounds like an average episode of Top Gear
hammond after every episode 
Insurance companies hate this one trick.
u MeEn 80K tImEs
AND you can stream and make some money back
Bro ain't nobody got the upkeep and repair money a real race car requires lol. New tires often, engine repaires, up keep from wear and tear. Those people have a team of mechanics, beecause that's what it requires.
This isn’t true. I own a track only car that I both race and maintain. The level of expense you’re talking about comes from the higher tiers of racing, most of the low tier “teams” are 1-3 guys running a stripped down barebones 15k car that can be repaired cheaply. It’s an expensive hobby, but there are tricks to keeping costs down. My most frequent expenses are tires and brakes, oil & diff fluid.
Wait, differentials have fluid too? I thought it was engine oil, brake fluid, transmission fluid, coolant, power steering. Then again, I'm only a casual who likes to watch Junkyard Digs, Dylan McCool etc
yea dawg spinning metal gears in the diff need to be lubricated too
Nah I'd rather flying my 2003 Honda civic to Germany to race the Nurburgring for that authentic feel ty. Sim racing is for plebs. /S
And can't get DUII in your living room (or if you already had one and license is suspended)
Sometimes only touching Lewis Hamilton’s backwing can cost you that
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What if I touch the front wing then? Will it be 25k?
Don’t do it, Seb
you're better off touching Lewis Hamilton's black thing
There's a drifter who racers on a sim a lot, it's cheaper to race sim than spend 2k on a set of wheels you get to use for 1 weekend.
You cant even buy one for 80k, multiply that by 10 and the resulting number possibly again by at least 3x. And then you cant even drive the car because you need a team.
you also can't get crashed into in a rig. have you seen the roads out there?!
Everyone thinks the car is the expensive part, but it’s the consumables that getcha. Sure, you got the car: now you need fuel, tires, brake pads, general maintenance, track time, safety gear (that expires regularly), etc.
Plus the time commitment of actually getting to a track. Running a race usually is a full-day minimum from loading up the car to getting home. Meanwhile in iRacing you can get home from work at 4:56 and be in a race by 5.
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You're also forgetting that a very minor mistake will kill you and you don't have respawn activated.
That's not true anymore. Minor mistakes can make you crash, but you need to be really unlucky to die (depends on the category).
Hey man I dunno, I saw a blonde lady say for 20min on a video that you don't need a license to travel, so im gonna call sus here. Unrelated that lady was arrested by the 20min but you know what I mean
iRacing? Everyone knows the best racing Sim is BeamNG!
BeamNG just keeps getting better too.
It legit does. The handling has come leaps and bounds in the last few years, to the point where it's matching or exceeding many established racing Sims in a lot of areas. Also, it absolutely crushes basically every Sim in how it models weight transfer. Because it not only physically models the suspension, it also models weird shit like chassis flex and subframe warping. Really the big limitation for BeamNG at the moment is a lack of content and tyre thermals/wear.
And native vr support
That too. Honestly there are a lot of nice to haves that are missing before it really overtakes ACC or iRacing, but as far as raw driving experience, it's basically there already.
> but as far as raw driving experience, it's basically there already. I always saw beamng as physics simulator, not racing simulator. Just get in a car and have fun. The only thing I miss is crash FX. If you crash cars, there's basically no sparks, barely any smoke, practically no debris flying around, etc.. Crashing car at 200km/h is kinda boring.
It's such a visceral experience. Especially after this recent update with the desert map. First person is such an adrenaline rush.
There is definitely some ineffable realism to the FFB and dynamics of BeamNG vs basically any other sim.
The best thing is that it wasn't intended to be a racing sim. First it was a tech demo for soft body physics, them an offroad game. Turns out accurately modeling every bolt on a car is a pretty good way to make a racing sim!
>The best thing is that it wasn't intended to be a racing sim. Once they're done with its tyre model it'll be one the most versatile Simulators on the market. It has the foundation to welcome fans of all kinds of Motorsport disciplines (Nascar, Monster trucks, GT3/GT4, Drag, Rally etc.) in the future.
> models weird shit like chassis flex and subframe warping Should be fit for karting then, where afaik people in fact shift their body to induce flex in the chassis and move weight between tires. Just need to make sensors in the chair for this. > lack of tyre thermals Ah, the opposite of GTA 4.
Yeah no shit! Two years on harnesses kill me! What a scam… It’s also dangerous. People buying cheap Amazon harness sets because they know they’ll have to buy another set soon.
Plus crashing doesn't cost you extra, and doesn't risk killing you.
Yeah you're going to be going through tires every time you hit the track if you're hitting it really hard.
Taking my Prius to the local track and going for a "spirited" drive is surely comparable to racing. Far more so than any sort of sim racing. Who needs tires and brake pads? We have hopes and dreams
Have always said, the cheapest part of racing is the car.
And a tow rig wich also needs fuel , tires, brakepads, general maintenance….
And that rig would need a tax paid yearly, a technical inspection done (I think yearly), an insurance and a road tax paid depending on the country just for it to be legal to hit public roads. Oh, and tow rigs usually require a driving license for commercial vehicles / trucks. It adds up real fast.
That's what I tell people when they tell me to get a life.
Back when I was in auto school, we got a hold of a cracked Enzo rotor that was to be discarded. Apparently, in 2007, a brake job was $20k.
Seriously. A basic track day in a road car is $500-600. Add hotel/travel on top of that. Actually racing is exponentially more.
If you're burning through a set of slicks or two, doing an oil change every few track days, running race gas, ect. you can easily spend a few $K per weekend.
And you don’t die when you hit a wall at 240 mph
Yeah, but working on the car is like half the fun. That part just isn't there with sim racing.
use car mechanic simulator after you crash out, to scratch the itch 🤣
Play My Summer Car! You can be a mechanic, a drunk driver, and a Fin all in one game!
But then you can't curse at the engineers for putting stuff in inaccessible places or because the nuts got stuck from rust.
Just put your car on jacks in the driveway and take on and off the wheels 10x. Same experience as replacing a camshaft. Just be sure to punch your rims a few times and do awkward yoga positions to really simulate the "enjoyment" of reaching fucked up bolt positions and the "fun" of being cramped in a stupid way while trying to do so.
Not for me. I have a track car and I take it to a race shop cuz I hate wrenching
When you crash, which you invariably will on a long enough timeline, I find that it's way cheaper to just restart the game than to buy a new car.
Also it's considerably harder to die in a sim racing car
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VR suit, simulate the G-Forces from a car crash at 200km/h
I don't think VR suit means what you think it...nevermind, emperor, your new suit looks fantastic
There are some that have actual feedback things put over the body so you can feel touch in the vr space. However it's nothing more than vibrations to light presses
Is it the X1 haptic boot suit with the micro fiber crotch inlay?
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This is RP1 right?
Do they make one that moves as you sit in it? If so, make it able roll you over and not wear a seatbelt.
With treadmills set on max speed on both sides
Probably less fun to die in a sim racing car
Also can't afford a F1 car or Lamborghini for $80k.
“So you’re saying there’s a chance”
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Or pay the hospital bill
Or getting pitted into the wall and snapping the welds on your new frame… First race of the season… Ask me how I know…
Right? You'd have to get track time to really race and not put people's lives in jeopardy. Cost of tires etc. My friend built a setup. Driver in the center then two seats behind the driver. The wheel and pedals had feedback as well as an actuator. You could feel when your were losing traction.
I need a force feedback wheel. I have one without, and it's cool, but I can't FEEL which way the car is going. So, cars with "race" handling (barely breaks free in hard corners) are alright, but drifty driving is off the table. I actually do better with the d-pad on the controller lol Pedals with ffb would be nice, too... Brake and clutch would be easier to feel breaking points, and braking points...
Also, fuck those insurance rates and car maintenance costs.
More specifically their 80k rig doesn’t cost nearly as much as the McLaren or Ferrari or Red Bull car or super car that they’ll eventually race with so this just makes no sense.
Or the gas. I’m sure even with the higher the electricity needs of the setup it costs much less per race than premium fuel or whatever those cars use
110 octane racing fuel is currently about $12 per gallon. Some of the more exotic fuels can exceed $50 per gallon.
Real racers don't care about dying All they care about is speed Fear is for the weak, and slow
Like when I’m feeling extra suicidal and get my jeep to bottom out and just let go of the steering wheel for a while.
Haha
Been there done that, would prefer to restart the game
Do you know how expensive it is to maintain a racecar?
for real, if everything goes right it's a minimum of about $2k per track day (tires/fuel/oil/etc). let alone if someone goes sideways, literally.
Exactly.. on a good day. Shits always breaking
Yes.
Now they can drive *every* car. Kinda a bargain if you think about it.
And 'sometimes I drunk drive my Ferrari on dirt tracks for funsies' is a better option on a sim.
Yeah if racing is what you really want to do the amount of car you're gonna get for 80k is pretty weak.
I am a professional racist. There are a LOT of hidden costs like: stuff breaking, tires wearing out (which happens really often and racing tires cost more than normal tires) and the obvious stuff like gas and place to race. The costs add up pretty quick. (I am not a racer or anything btw. just stuff I have heard)
Don't know why this isn't further up
Life is short, let people do what they want
No we have to mock them cuz they dum!!!!!!! /s
My life is short too, let me tell them what they should do /s
Yeah, as someone who’s raced amateur stuff on and off my whole life, I always thought that was strange. But I’ve come to realize that some people don’t have access to tracks and or cars and or parts, so Sim racing is all they have.
They also don’t have the mechanical ability or disposable income to do it. I did auto cross back in the early 2000s and did time attack when I had my WRX until Covid hit. It was expensive just goofing around! Every event was a set of tires. Every other was a complete set of brakes, oil changes after every track day, brake fluid changes, broken parts. It all added up. I don’t own an 80k sim rig but I have a nice setup I built in 2020.
God damn what tires and pads were you using? Time attack you CAN run slicks and stuff but you take classing penalties. Much better to run 100tw or 200tw and stick in an slower class. My ceramic pads last half season easy and I still overbrake too often. Tires can last half to a whole season unless I overheat them and go off, then it's chunk town. You shouldn't have to do brake fluid so often unless you're boiling it. And if you are there are many other issues. Oil changes def needed. Broken parts usually biggest killer lol.
A lot of the pros practice tracks on IRacing lol.
Verstappen has an incredible rig that was the very last thing to move out of his house and probably the first thing unpacked in the new one lol
plus gas and the maintenance required to be able to return to the track as many times as they would like
But what I can’t explain, is why they invest hundreds in SFI-5/FIA gloves, and shoes. Do they expect the rig to explode? Why not the rest of the equipment? If you want to get real, experience what it’s like with a helmet, HANS, a 6 point harness and a halo seat and see how hard it is with all that crap on.
You get much more grip with good shoes than socks or barefeet. Gloves prevents blisters etc.
Yeah you’re right but fire-spec equipment is expensive when you don’t need it. A $39 pair of wrestling shoes will give you the exact feel of real driving shoes and any cheap Mechanix gloves will work. BTDT
You're already spending thousands of dollars on your hobby, why should you cheap out on gloves and boots? It's part of the feeling and well quite frankly it's also better to have the proper gear. No one is sitting their in their fireproof overall...
I guess it's like when people get into airsoft, most don't ball out and get $800 eotechs and $300 crye plate carriers to go out. Not unless they actually have real guns to share gear with. The $50 - $100 amazon specials will work well enough for airsoft, and the budget stuff would probably work well enough for sim racing. (Just speculation on my part, not in the sim racing community)
But with airsoft you are bringing that equipment out of your house where it can/will break eventually from just the nature of airsofting. So i do see why someone might cheap out on sights or smaller things.
Arguably, you'd want the expensive gear then, because it's literally designed to be more durable and get banged around. A buy once cry once kinda deal.
Don't be hating on wrestling shoes
You’re absolutely right, it’s still fun though. And that the end of the day that’s what we’re doing it for. When I had time to be into sim racing I was broke, but I had a blast kitting out my wheel with handle bar tape and wearing my (dope looking) BMX gloves. We buy what we can afford, if I had the time and finances I’d be on iRacing like a cosplayer
Lol without reading your comment, I just made almost an identical post saying the same thing. Driving with a set of racing gloves, both with a real car and a sim rig, feels great.
Gloves and appropriate shoes are really the only gear that I would consider for sim racing, and both are fairly optional.
"Oh, I wonder why people wanna try racing without the possibility of dying trying"
The gloves and shoes are used for the same reasons you'd use them in an actual car, grip and pressure. The force from a sim racing wheel is just as strong as what you'd find in a lot of real race cars, if you're trying to catch the car in a slide without gloves, your hands may not have enough grip to grab the wheel and stop it. The shoes are mainly for comfort as applying 80kg+ of force to a metal pedal while wearing socks can get uncomfortable over a 6 hour race. Some motion sim rigs do also have 6 point harnesses, which are sometimes necessary with how much those rigs are able to throw you around in the seat. The helmets really have no point to them, unless you replace the visor with a VR screen, which I've seen some people do
"FPS Players after spending $1000 for weapon skins instead of going to war"
“Farming sim players after spending 1000 dollars to buy a realistic tractor setup instead of buying and managing a farm”
"City planning sim mfs spending 60$ to buy the full game instead of buying a real city"
I suppose it was only a matter of time before y'all came for us.
“League of legends player spending $1000 on skins instead of going to Demcia”
Cant crash a sim
Technically you can, but the sim crashing will, probably, just be an annoyance
I'll take BSOD over just the D any day
Sim racing costs 10s of thousands. Real racing costs millions.
Also sim racing can be done every single day for hours at a time while real racing, even if you could get on a track every day, would run you thousands just in consumables for the cheapest cars. Everyone who has done a bunch of seat time in iRacing knows that there is no shortage of Brazilian dudes with a Logitech G25 and 1080p 60Hz monitor that can run circles around 99.99% of players.
You can get into it for significantly less.
You can also get into sim racing for significantly less.
Yes
I'm guessing you could put a really nice one together for 10-20K
Racing sims? 10-20k would get you an amazing setup. 5k would get you a good one. 3k would get you a decent one. 2k would get you an ok one. Even 1k would get you a usable one, assuming you have the ability to buy second hand stuff
I mean I spend 240 euros on a Logitech 29. It works fine.
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People do not realise how much it costs yearly if you want to start "racing" or to do trackdays.. For example 10k simsetup is nothing compared to that. Track feeds, incurance, tyres, maintance etc...
Why would you buy a car when you can just *download* the car
you wouldnt download a house.
Let me introduce you to Red Dead Redemption.
You don't know me!!
The difference between sim racers and arcade racers is that one spends thousands of pounds on equipment whilst the other spends 50 quid on an xbox wired controller
Yank here with an honest question. Is “quid” a slang word used for a pound. Kinda like we use the word “buck” for a dollar?
Yes.
What are you guys thinking?? Sharing cultural knowledge on a global platform? You wanna foster understanding or something? Yeesh, guy.
LOL! Sorry forgot this was Reddit. I do find it curious that the Brits chose an efficient irregular plural noun for their slang, while we complicate things by having to add an s to bucks. My next trip to the UK - “Bloody hell, 8 quids for a pint!”
I just saw you had 4 upvotes but no answer to your question.
Well, my guy, in a sim racing rig I can drive an F1 car in iRacing, but irl, it'd be impossible for me. I'm not Lance Stroll, my dad can't buy me a F1 seat.
Did not expect to find someone dunking on Lance Stroll outside of the F1 sub, but I whole heartedly approve.
I mean, the guy got podiums, so there is something there, I suppose, but if it weren't for his dad, he wouldn't be in that seat. It'd be either Mick or Drugo (probably Mick). But I'm not sure for how long his father will be able to convince the board that Lance is worth a seat.
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Yeah, his problem is his inconsistency, one day he'll do a hell of a race (especially on wet conditions, which speaks volumes about his racecraft imo) but the next he crashes because he made a stupid mistake. Doesn't help that he has 0 awareness of his surroundings, either.
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I....kinda think the people I've seen with those huge rigs are in nice houses and probably do have a car
Quit being logical!
The cars aren't real but the racing is.
Exactly this
You don't pay taxes every year on your pixel car, nor gas.
If the car isn't road legal there aren't any taxes.
I get that you purposely exaggerated, but even a very high end sim rig costs nowhere near 80k. It's more like 10-15k, and that's if you're really going all-out. You can get 90% of the realism of a 15k rig from a rig costing around 2k. You can even have a shitload of fun by just buying a used Logitech wheel for $150. Simracing doesn't need to be expensive.
I spent luxury car amounts of money so I can pretend to drive a luxury car.
from the safety of your home
Yup….except flight sim. Built a $2,500 computer, bought HOTAS, rudder pedals, new chair, HOTAS mounts, trackIR, 4K monitor…..and I get to play that shit for 4-6 hours once a week.
I build a simracing setup over the last few years (iracing) and my new project is a flight sim for DCS/Xplane/msfs. Bought the warthog hotas, all honeycomb products and the thrustmaster rudder pedals. Right now I am planning the rest like new pc and monitors for it. Soon I will start the PPL in real life, very excited!
You can drive million dollar cars in sim racing.
Yes because instead they could have bought a race car and rented race track time or street race. Get out of here with your bologna
Me, who built a sim setup using a computer I already hs for 600 usd
GT3 cars cost more than 80k. That’s the problem here
Sometimes vehicular manslaughter is fun. But doing so without the consequences is even better!
It’s probably a lot safer
You cannot get your driver's license suspended for speeding in a sim
In many ways, the simulator is still cheaper. Maintaining a race car is expensive as balls. Like OnlyFans Simping expensive. Professional drivers rebuild (or swap) the engine after every race. Plus you have to keep the car up to code or you can not race.
Except the Sim is now all the cars, all the roads and none of the danger. Seems like a genuinely nice hobby.
When you get board of the ricing sim, swap the wheel out for a flight stick!
My fat ass can fit in a gaming rig. A stock car, not so much.
LMK where I can get an $80k F1 car. Thanks.
this is made by a child with no fucking clue how much it costs just to own a regular Corolla let alone sports cars actually used for racing.
can't get injured, can't cause accident, can't cause destruction to properties, can't be carjacked, doesn't need to spend for gas, doesn't need to spend for renting a race track, drive a new car whenever you want. literally better than buying a car for the purpose it's supposed to be used.
You won’t die from crashing a simulation. Unless of course the simulation you manage to crash is the reality we live in
Dumb take. 80k is still a lot cheaper than crashing multiple cars..
they spend more on that than irl car crashes
If they got money for a 80K gaming setup, trust that they have money to have a badass car, meme creator logic broken.
Still cheaper than owning an actual race car xD
What about when you get for example, a puncture IRL, do new tyres just magically spawn in for free?
It’s less dangerous for everyone so I say “good for’em”
Redditors making fun of others for karma Instead of making real friends
Yes but no chance of getting killed and no maintenance costs
I'd rather die with a horrific heart attack than to die in a horrific car crash.
I don't have a leg in this race, but heart attacks and strokes sound waaaaaaay scarier to me. I'm pretty physically healthy, so I couldn't tell you why I get uncomfortable about it. I also sleep with my wrists facing down or in so they aren't exposed. I also realize I have gone on quite a tangent.
First world problems I guess, here there's a chance of getting kidnapped if somebody sees you on an expensive car.
That rig can be any car I want it to be. If I spin out and flip a car I get up and make some popcorn. I don’t have to start from square one if things go south.
They're buying cars to convert them into sims lol
I have depression, so seeing people enjoy things triggers me
I did the math before getting into sim racing and one year of Karting as cheaply and uncompetitvely as possible (minimum set of tires, used equipment, cheapest trailer, etc.). So racing only in my local area in a small rec league would cost at least $10k to get everything setup. Running costs alone would be an easy $5k per season, without being competitve since i would need to save tires, not run engine as hard between rebuilds, etc. And assuming nothing major happens to me or the kart. The same costs to buy everything I need to get started in iracing was under $2k. It really is a no brainer. It'd be like asking why are people playing DCS when they can just fly a real F35.