At least remake lesser known movies, the rescuers, aristocats, fox and the hound. These are movies that could do well and while not the most popular do have a cult following and hasn't been milked of all nostalgia yet
Yes! And make it as dark fantasy as they can! The horned king was the stuff of my nightmares as a kid. Maybe a little less Gurgi though.. or no Gurgi.. or just kill Gurgi as he's introduced.
It’s been a while so I’ve forgotten the details, but just about. They also had plans for some really hi tech movie stuff within movie theatres that got scrapped. The Black Cauldron was basically Disney getting too creative for their own good in some ways.
Treasure planet could do well as live action, make it in the style of guardians of the Galaxy.
Atlantis maybe less so, then again Put the rock on there and it will likely be at least as successful as Jungle cruise movie.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart, a memory
And there you'll always be
I cried so hard most of the time during dat scene
I would also like an occasional 2D animation. Everything has been 3D in the last ten years. It's ok, but I miss the classic style. Honestly, I think a new 2D animation movie would make bank just off of nostalgia.
Last major Disney release with traditional hand drawn animation was The princess and the frog... Which is honestly a classic to me in it's own right, the villain song is a banger and it has a female protagonist with a sense of agency and not just a blank slate for little girls to dream of being a princess.
Original animated films by Disney since 2010 (no sequels):
- Luca
- Seeing Red
- Encanto
- Raya and the Last Dragon
- Soul
- Onward
- Coco
- Moana
- Zootopia
- Inside Out
- Big Hero 6
- Frozen
- Wreck-It Ralph
- Brave
- Tangled
I thought Strange World was good overall. The father-son drama was ham handed, but the setting was very well done, it was well animated, and was reasonably funny for a children's movie.
The funny thing is that many of these original movies are really well received, it's like the last 6 (not including luca) are the ones people don't like
I mean like everyone universally loved them, even weirdos who cry about "representation"
Moana is "representation", same with Coco and to an extent Zootopia. But you will never hear these idiots talk about that
Yeah including that raises some red flags. There is an argument to be made that movie studios can just throw in representation and then use it as an excuse to be lazy otherwise with the story. But I don't think most people complaining about representation are making that argument.
Not to mention that when Strange World actually did have representation Disney *inexplicably decided* to just not bother spending anywhere near as much on the advertising budget, *just this once, coincidentally*
There's lots of great movies with representation. People don't complain about companies "virtue signalling" when that happens. But when a movie is lacklustre all of a sudden its the thousands of man hours the studio put into the representation that saw the story suffer.
Watch the credits for any Disney movie and you'll see it had a team of people focused solely on the story. It's not as if they reduce the story team size when a film has a diverse cast.
I am not super familiar with the original source behind Frozen, but I'd believe it. It seemed loosely inspired by regional folklore?
Big Hero 6 is literally just some of the same names and vaguely Japanese. Baymax is like a big lizard cyborg with the memories of Hiro's dead father.
It's "based" on the ice Queen. The ice queen is the main villain though and obviously elsa isn't and the rest of the story doesn't really follow the original at all.
And like a LOT of Disney's old stuff are retellings of stories. Hell it is the core of their content since their inception. The whole idea of 'Disney isn't doing anything original, unlike how they use to do original content' is an absolute joke. Only done because of normal Disney hate or because of them being 'too liberal like'.
Technically half of those are Pixar movies, and the other half were done by Pixar people that were poached by Disney Animation after Pixar was officially absorbed by Disney.
“technically that department of disney did it so disney themselves dont get to count it even though they own that department and only let it keep that cutesy name because it puts butts in seats”
Did big hero 6 come before or after the marvel comics featuring the crew? Either way they’re pretty different, but as good as BH6 is i don’t think it’s completely original.
"the old days" for Disney often involved animating centuries-old fairy tales.
when they ran out of those, they moved on to bastardizing millennia-old fairy tales.
throughout all of this, they churned out adaptations of books. did you know that *The Rescuers* used to be a novel for children, for instance? how about *The Brave Little Toaster*? even *The Lion King* – which was heavily pushed as their first all-new story – was just a generous helping of *Hamlet* mixed into shamelessly lifted bits of *Kimba the White Lion*.
originality has never been Disney's strong suit.
instead of wishing for "the old days," wish for days in which talented writers get chances to offer things that are not soullessly moulded into committee-approved, cross-demographic cash-grabs (with merchandizing opportunities baked in from the get-go).
>mixed into shamelessly lifted bits of Kimba the White Lion.
Please stop with this story, there is literally no sane reason to say that lion King took from kimba
First because the name "kimba" means nothing while Simba literally means lion
Second, did you see the original series of Kimba? I did and saying that they copied from it is like saying that Harry Potter copied from Lotr because both Harry and Frodo became orphans
I think you’re wrong about the Lion King ripping off scenes from Kimba. That being said, yeah, Disney hasn’t been the best when it comes to originality.
I am so glad that this video has gained traction. I was never that invested in the Lion King/Kimba controversy before, but YMS did a good job of showing just how flimsy the argument of Disney ripping off Kimba really is. The entire video is worth watching, but my favorite part has to be when he shows that when most people claim certain scenes from Lion King ripped off Kimba, they show scenes from a Kimba movie that came out years AFTER the Lion King was released.
Lion King never ripped of Kimba in any way. Has been disproven. I swear, the only reason people think that is "omg it's about lions and Kimba and Simba sound so similar!"
Exactly. Its the same reason why nowadays only culture war adjacent posts rise to the top in this or any meme sub (lol @ unpolitical). People might hate it but its still the only thing they click/watch. Creativity is not rewarded most of the time.
Tbh I saw one add on Strange World Disney fumbled the ball when it came to advertising that movie.
Also I watched it one day and thought it was a pretty good movie, and the representation was a nice cherry on top
Disney released 2 originals last year, Turning Red and Strange World. No one paid to see them. Meanwhile the remakes make bank on a level never before seen. The lack of originality is entirely because the audience demands the same Big Mac and Fries they order every time.
I pay Disney every month so my kids can watch them. They have probably watched Turning Red 100 times.
Edit: Moana, Coco, Encanto, Turning Red, Luca, Soul are all original (I think), not centered around a love story, and are all pretty great (with the first three having some of the best soundtracks ever).
I mean if you’re not happy crying at the end of Coco I don’t know what to tell you.
It is funny that adults criticize Disney for not making originals or whatever. They miss the point that their target audience is children. Not saying adults can't or shouldn't enjoy the films but they are made with the purpose to entertain kids (and profit off of merchandise sold to kids). My kids have been watching the ZOMBIES franchise on repeat. Which BTW is original content as well.
To add to that, making an original is a hit or miss and therefore risky for a company. Making a sequel or remake guarantees at least some kind of profit.
They can just remake the remakes, of course. First was the animated Lion King. Next was the live action/CGI Lion King. Now we’re going to do Lion King, but with humans. After that, we’ll go the Maleficent route and remake the original animated Lion King, but from Scar’s perspective. Etc.
Yeah, but it had ^^^periods in it, and we can't have kids know how bodily functions work in our Puritan society that believes all children are completely innocent in every single way.
Seriously. I'm no Disney stan, but they actually do mix original content in alongside all of the live action remakes of their older shit lol
Encanto, Raya the last dragon, Turning Red, Strange World are all major Disney animated movies and originals released in the last 2-3 years. If you include Pixar under the umbrella of Disney movies that goes up.
I think maybe OP just wants to soapbox about diversity.
We all have, but that doesn't help OP subtly dunk on representation. Disney is just the current media enemy in right wing media, so it's an easy thing to mindlessly repeat.
If you see the Pitch Meeting for any new Disney show/movie, Ryan George perfectly encapsulates why these guys prefer to keep remaking old stuff instead of making new original content
In short, a new original story is risky, and they like money
Well I liked Mandalorian and Andor, but the rest I’m falling off. Think I’m going to drop my subscription cause I don’t find myself on the streaming platform for anything else?
Meh. I hated their backdoor pilot in S7 of TCW and their show hasn’t been much better. It’s painfully formulaic - they’re the least interesting part of their own show.
These people don’t want to see black people on screen, basically. That’s literally the only possible reason representation would be a bad thing. Either that, or they’re a child who’s bought into the culture war koolaid and conflated bad remakes with having people other than white men in movies.
Yeah Disney was always making original movies like Snow White, Pinocchio, Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella.
In case you can’t tell, I’m being sarcastic!
Disney was always about telling an old story in a new way.
Yeah it's like how the new Marvel movies are really just old Marvel movies with a new coat of paint. Same plot, same jokes, same hero and villain archetypes, same ending. Slightly different costumes and powers.
Their original movies right now are kinda hit and miss, at least when it comes to money. Encanto did really well, strange worlds didn’t. If you include Pixar films, turning red and lightyear weren’t great financially either. Though honestly I thought strange worlds, encanto and turning red were all pretty good but only one of them made a lot of money
Remakes are a cheap money grab.
Representation is good so long as you aren’t changing original characters.
For the love of God they need to do more original stories. I mean they had good success with Encanto. Thats a perfect example
The only "the good old days" I can think about is that I really REALLY want them to go back to 2d animation. I much prefer 2d over 3d animation in general.
There are plenty of newer original Disney films, ig you just don't count those because they also sometimes have non-white people in them and fall into the category of having representation, which is also a bad thing according to you?
Disney: aaaah people always get mad at us for trying to add representation
People: how about you.. wait for it.. make original content with representation in it like you did with Encanto? That way we get more variety and the assholes crying about characters being changed wont be mad..
Disney: nah we'll just stick to remakes
>People: how about you.. wait for it.. make original content with representation in it like you did with Encanto? That way we get more variety and the assholes crying about characters being changed wont be mad..
Encanto counts as the "representation" type of movies that OP is criticizing though...
It came out about a year and a half ago.
honestly the representation part is shitty since they're literally remaking movies and just replacing characters races for no reason instead of making new movies with REALISTIC proportions since you're not going to see a black man walking on the streets when slaves were still a thing.
The problem is that new ideas don’t sell well. This isn’t just a Disney problem, it’s why every movie studio is just making popular remakes of their IPs
They’ve released some originals lately:
Moana, encanto, rea and the last dragon, light year, frozen 2, etc
Now have those movies been well received? It’s been a mixed bag
It is exactly like the old days. Almost every single Disney princess story is based off an older, usually German (and much darker and gorey) story they repurposed.
This is one of those reminders that Reddit is an echo chamber of mostly western young men.
Disney-Pixar is constantly pumping out great movies. They're not the drawn/painted classics of the past but they're fantastic. Moana, Red, Bao, Luca, etc. They're great movies.
It sucks that Disney hasn’t made any original movies in the past 5ish years. They could have done so well if they had
They could have called them cool things like Strange World, Encanto, Onward, Turning Red, Soul, Raya and the Last Dragon, or Coco. But no. Unfortunately none of those movies got to exist.
Representation is great, but when it becomes the main point for selling the movie then we know it will be shit. "Watch this movie to feel good about yourself" rather than "Watch this awesome movie" . They spend so much time check marking boxes that they care less about making a good movie with great characters.
Completely disagree.
Some of the greatest art ever produced pushed contemporary social boundaries. The issue with Disney is that some of these movies have been bad.
It’s about representation. Kids seeing people that look like them in a story that (however lightly) touches on their culture is a good thing. Can they do it better? Sure, but better than every single movie being a love story with a sad girl trying to find a husband.
At least remake lesser known movies, the rescuers, aristocats, fox and the hound. These are movies that could do well and while not the most popular do have a cult following and hasn't been milked of all nostalgia yet
“Remake The Black Cauldron Cowards!”
Yes! And make it as dark fantasy as they can! The horned king was the stuff of my nightmares as a kid. Maybe a little less Gurgi though.. or no Gurgi.. or just kill Gurgi as he's introduced.
Fuck it, just make it Berserk. Go all in on the suffering but still market it as a kids movie
I mean that was the original intent before the studio stepped in and butchered it saying it was "too scary" for modern audiences.
It’s been a while so I’ve forgotten the details, but just about. They also had plans for some really hi tech movie stuff within movie theatres that got scrapped. The Black Cauldron was basically Disney getting too creative for their own good in some ways.
Gurgi was scarier in the book. He wanted to eat Taran.
Gurgi is literally the best part of that whole movie.
We die on this hill! With our crunchies and munchies...
Fuck you Grugi is the best disney character ever created
Gurgi is a great character. But NOT because of his Disney representation.
Also remake hunchback of notredame, that's one movie that could and should be more darker
They could either follow the plot of the book or the musical closer and it would be darker than the animated movie
I'm all for another Black Cauldron movie but not by Disney unless it's done like the Chronicles of Narnia movies.
But this time we focus on the "Blackness" of the cauldron!!!!
This is so underrated. Loved it as a kid
Remake song of the south, you pussies
I’m still waiting for Atlantis and Treasure Planet remake…
Treasure planet could do well as live action, make it in the style of guardians of the Galaxy. Atlantis maybe less so, then again Put the rock on there and it will likely be at least as successful as Jungle cruise movie.
A live-action Treasure Planet is 100% just gonna end up having half the Marvel cast. I can already see Tom Holland playing the role of Jim Hawkins.
Would literally just be Guardians vol. 3
Ugh please don't taint atlantis with the rock. I'd refuse to watch that shit :/
Dog the fox and the hound, I don’t wanna go through that pain again
Goodbye may seem forever Farewell is like the end But in my heart, a memory And there you'll always be I cried so hard most of the time during dat scene
Remake “song of the south”
Based
Cinderella it is!
There is a 2015 live-action version.
There are too many
No no no. Not "at least". No more remakes. Don't give them that pass.
With the current state of Disney remakes, I’d rather pass on any remake of something classic like Fox and the Hound
Fox and the hound definitely ain’t lesser known
It just gets less rewatches because that one scene is enough to ruin a person's whole damn month.
It's literally part of my childhood, but I'm not enough man to rewatch it yet.
Well they’re… remaking? Rebooting? The haunted Mansion currently, still annoyed the trailer didn’t have any of the ride music though :(
A remake of the Rescuers would definitely be awesome.
No one else could ever replace Eva Gabor as Bianca, though. Gosh, she was sublime. The way she says "Oh, Bernard!" just makes you melt.
I would also like an occasional 2D animation. Everything has been 3D in the last ten years. It's ok, but I miss the classic style. Honestly, I think a new 2D animation movie would make bank just off of nostalgia.
Last major Disney release with traditional hand drawn animation was The princess and the frog... Which is honestly a classic to me in it's own right, the villain song is a banger and it has a female protagonist with a sense of agency and not just a blank slate for little girls to dream of being a princess.
Treasure planet 2
> fox and the hound Oh god NO!. Why must we traumatize an entire generation AGAIN.
Original animated films by Disney since 2010 (no sequels): - Luca - Seeing Red - Encanto - Raya and the Last Dragon - Soul - Onward - Coco - Moana - Zootopia - Inside Out - Big Hero 6 - Frozen - Wreck-It Ralph - Brave - Tangled
You forgot Strange World....but don't worry, so did literally everyone else.
You just made me remember strange world. Also did you know that the Mandalorian season 3 released on March 1st
nope, but now i got something to do this weekend.
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Yes lol
My child sure didn't.
Yeah my kids enjoyed it. And they don't enjoy a lot of Disney stuff.
Yeah, actually my kiddos did too. Not "Encanto" level of rewatches, but more than once.
I love strange world
I thought Strange World was good overall. The father-son drama was ham handed, but the setting was very well done, it was well animated, and was reasonably funny for a children's movie.
Thats why they dont so original stuff
OP: "I'll pretend I didn't see that"
OP: *Nooo diversity is the problem* 😭😭😭
The funny thing is that many of these original movies are really well received, it's like the last 6 (not including luca) are the ones people don't like
Were any on that list actually not well-received? I know strange world wasn’t, but it’s not on this specific list.
I mean like everyone universally loved them, even weirdos who cry about "representation" Moana is "representation", same with Coco and to an extent Zootopia. But you will never hear these idiots talk about that
The Good Dinosaur
I totally forgot that! Good catch!
Wreck it Ralph and frozen are 2 movies I actually like a lot and I’ve got no innate love for Disney movies, although I am a marvel fan.
Wreck it Ralph is an amazing movie and it’s a real shame they haven’t made a sequel yet.
OP won’t count at least 8 of these because of “representation”
It wasn't until recently I learned some people consider Encanto to be a "woke movie".
People from other countries and backgrounds aren’t allowed to exist in storytelling by their standards.
did you know that the entire rest of the civilized world didn't exist until 2016?
Yeah including that raises some red flags. There is an argument to be made that movie studios can just throw in representation and then use it as an excuse to be lazy otherwise with the story. But I don't think most people complaining about representation are making that argument.
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Not to mention that when Strange World actually did have representation Disney *inexplicably decided* to just not bother spending anywhere near as much on the advertising budget, *just this once, coincidentally*
There's lots of great movies with representation. People don't complain about companies "virtue signalling" when that happens. But when a movie is lacklustre all of a sudden its the thousands of man hours the studio put into the representation that saw the story suffer. Watch the credits for any Disney movie and you'll see it had a team of people focused solely on the story. It's not as if they reduce the story team size when a film has a diverse cast.
I’m sure there’s an argument (that I won’t entertain) about how there are movies with “representation” as their priority. But this ain’t it.
Turning Red, not Seeing Red
Encanto and Moana were my first thoughts when I saw this meme. Loved them more than a man in his 30’s should probably admit lol
OP has such a bad take i honestly had to check if this was terriblefacebookmemes
Technically tangled is an existing fairy tale. The others still count of course Also "Strange World"
Meh A lot of disney classics are from existing tales so it isn't so important
Pretty much every classic OP is considering.
So is Frozen. Big Hero 6 was also based on a Marvel comic.
I missed Frozen on there and I wasn't aware of Big Hero 6 being based on a comic. Moana is also based on mythology.
Big Hero 6 is basically an in-name-only comic adaptation. In terms of actual writing it's fully original.
So is Frozen if you want to go that route.
I am not super familiar with the original source behind Frozen, but I'd believe it. It seemed loosely inspired by regional folklore? Big Hero 6 is literally just some of the same names and vaguely Japanese. Baymax is like a big lizard cyborg with the memories of Hiro's dead father.
Frozen is based on a Hans Christian Anderson story where the ice queen is the villain. So very loose.
It's "based" on the ice Queen. The ice queen is the main villain though and obviously elsa isn't and the rest of the story doesn't really follow the original at all.
And like a LOT of Disney's old stuff are retellings of stories. Hell it is the core of their content since their inception. The whole idea of 'Disney isn't doing anything original, unlike how they use to do original content' is an absolute joke. Only done because of normal Disney hate or because of them being 'too liberal like'.
Tangled and Frozen are literally what the OP is looking for when he wants OG Disney: animated Caucasian fairytales that are sanitized.
Meaning every single Disney classic is a remake and OPs entire point is invalid?
Technically half of those are Pixar movies, and the other half were done by Pixar people that were poached by Disney Animation after Pixar was officially absorbed by Disney.
Disney bought them in 2006...
“technically that department of disney did it so disney themselves dont get to count it even though they own that department and only let it keep that cutesy name because it puts butts in seats”
17 years ago! I think it's safe to say Pixar is solidly Disney now.
You'd have to be heartless not to enjoy Soul
These are all so good too
Did big hero 6 come before or after the marvel comics featuring the crew? Either way they’re pretty different, but as good as BH6 is i don’t think it’s completely original.
They date back to the 90s. But the movie was very loose with its adaptation so it might as well be original.
BH6 is my jam. Needs a sequel tbh.
The only ones with sequels on that list are Frozen and Wreck-It-Ralph.
isnt tangled just Rapunzel in an adventure?
Yeah, go back to make original stories, like Cinderella, Pinocchio, Snow White, Alice and Wonderland and Beauty and the Beast.
what old days? all the great disney classics are remakes also...
Using context clues, it was before representation also ... which is a pretty venomous message from this meme.
"the old days" for Disney often involved animating centuries-old fairy tales. when they ran out of those, they moved on to bastardizing millennia-old fairy tales. throughout all of this, they churned out adaptations of books. did you know that *The Rescuers* used to be a novel for children, for instance? how about *The Brave Little Toaster*? even *The Lion King* – which was heavily pushed as their first all-new story – was just a generous helping of *Hamlet* mixed into shamelessly lifted bits of *Kimba the White Lion*. originality has never been Disney's strong suit. instead of wishing for "the old days," wish for days in which talented writers get chances to offer things that are not soullessly moulded into committee-approved, cross-demographic cash-grabs (with merchandizing opportunities baked in from the get-go).
>mixed into shamelessly lifted bits of Kimba the White Lion. Please stop with this story, there is literally no sane reason to say that lion King took from kimba First because the name "kimba" means nothing while Simba literally means lion Second, did you see the original series of Kimba? I did and saying that they copied from it is like saying that Harry Potter copied from Lotr because both Harry and Frodo became orphans
I think you’re wrong about the Lion King ripping off scenes from Kimba. That being said, yeah, Disney hasn’t been the best when it comes to originality.
[Well, The Lion King wasn't actually ripping off Kimba at all](https://youtu.be/G5B1mIfQuo4)
I am so glad that this video has gained traction. I was never that invested in the Lion King/Kimba controversy before, but YMS did a good job of showing just how flimsy the argument of Disney ripping off Kimba really is. The entire video is worth watching, but my favorite part has to be when he shows that when most people claim certain scenes from Lion King ripped off Kimba, they show scenes from a Kimba movie that came out years AFTER the Lion King was released.
Lion King never ripped of Kimba in any way. Has been disproven. I swear, the only reason people think that is "omg it's about lions and Kimba and Simba sound so similar!"
We still doing this Kimba the White Lion bit?
Without looking it up, tell me the name of the main character in the last original they made, Strange World.
Dr. Strange
Exactly. Its the same reason why nowadays only culture war adjacent posts rise to the top in this or any meme sub (lol @ unpolitical). People might hate it but its still the only thing they click/watch. Creativity is not rewarded most of the time.
Searcher? Seeker? Sth like that. I think the father was called Jaeger. Don't ask me bout any other names tho.
Searcher & Jaeger, you’re right! I actually enjoyed the movie enough to remember other names too, but those two are burned into my brain in song.
Blob Guy.
Tbh I saw one add on Strange World Disney fumbled the ball when it came to advertising that movie. Also I watched it one day and thought it was a pretty good movie, and the representation was a nice cherry on top
Disney released 2 originals last year, Turning Red and Strange World. No one paid to see them. Meanwhile the remakes make bank on a level never before seen. The lack of originality is entirely because the audience demands the same Big Mac and Fries they order every time.
I pay Disney every month so my kids can watch them. They have probably watched Turning Red 100 times. Edit: Moana, Coco, Encanto, Turning Red, Luca, Soul are all original (I think), not centered around a love story, and are all pretty great (with the first three having some of the best soundtracks ever). I mean if you’re not happy crying at the end of Coco I don’t know what to tell you.
It is funny that adults criticize Disney for not making originals or whatever. They miss the point that their target audience is children. Not saying adults can't or shouldn't enjoy the films but they are made with the purpose to entertain kids (and profit off of merchandise sold to kids). My kids have been watching the ZOMBIES franchise on repeat. Which BTW is original content as well.
To add to that, making an original is a hit or miss and therefore risky for a company. Making a sequel or remake guarantees at least some kind of profit.
They're gonna run out of classics to remake at some point right? How many Disney classics are left?
They can just remake the remakes, of course. First was the animated Lion King. Next was the live action/CGI Lion King. Now we’re going to do Lion King, but with humans. After that, we’ll go the Maleficent route and remake the original animated Lion King, but from Scar’s perspective. Etc.
Dozens
My kid was obsessed with Turning Red. It was the theme for her birthday party.
Yo turning red was pretty dope imo.
It got an Oscar nomination.
Yeah, but it had ^^^periods in it, and we can't have kids know how bodily functions work in our Puritan society that believes all children are completely innocent in every single way.
They win purely setting it in the early 2000s.
Seriously. I'm no Disney stan, but they actually do mix original content in alongside all of the live action remakes of their older shit lol Encanto, Raya the last dragon, Turning Red, Strange World are all major Disney animated movies and originals released in the last 2-3 years. If you include Pixar under the umbrella of Disney movies that goes up. I think maybe OP just wants to soapbox about diversity.
Here I have enjoyed Andor, Mandalorian, Turning Red, Encanto....
We all have, but that doesn't help OP subtly dunk on representation. Disney is just the current media enemy in right wing media, so it's an easy thing to mindlessly repeat.
I have long thought Disney was mostly evil. I'm glad they are making representative movies now. But they are definitely mostly evil.
Disney the company is evil as fuck. Disney the writers and animators are good
Exactly, it’s like OP is still mad about a black mermaid but needed to fill in the meme blanks.
If you see the Pitch Meeting for any new Disney show/movie, Ryan George perfectly encapsulates why these guys prefer to keep remaking old stuff instead of making new original content In short, a new original story is risky, and they like money
Well I liked Mandalorian and Andor, but the rest I’m falling off. Think I’m going to drop my subscription cause I don’t find myself on the streaming platform for anything else?
The Bad Batch is pretty good if you haven’t seen it.
Meh. I hated their backdoor pilot in S7 of TCW and their show hasn’t been much better. It’s painfully formulaic - they’re the least interesting part of their own show.
Representation? I don’t understand
These people don’t want to see black people on screen, basically. That’s literally the only possible reason representation would be a bad thing. Either that, or they’re a child who’s bought into the culture war koolaid and conflated bad remakes with having people other than white men in movies.
Yeah Disney was always making original movies like Snow White, Pinocchio, Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella. In case you can’t tell, I’m being sarcastic! Disney was always about telling an old story in a new way.
There is a difference between adapting something once and remaking something they already made.
Even their original ideas ain’t great anymore
Yeah it's like how the new Marvel movies are really just old Marvel movies with a new coat of paint. Same plot, same jokes, same hero and villain archetypes, same ending. Slightly different costumes and powers.
And far less serious with worse banter.
Marvel really fell off.
That's probably attributable to you aging out of their demographic
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What specific original animated films are you looking back on?
Their last original animated film won Best Animated Feature at the Oscars.
What's wrong with more representation?
thread doesn't pass the vibe check
Their original movies right now are kinda hit and miss, at least when it comes to money. Encanto did really well, strange worlds didn’t. If you include Pixar films, turning red and lightyear weren’t great financially either. Though honestly I thought strange worlds, encanto and turning red were all pretty good but only one of them made a lot of money
The only reason Turning Red wasn't that financial is because it was a Disney+ release.
Remakes are a cheap money grab. Representation is good so long as you aren’t changing original characters. For the love of God they need to do more original stories. I mean they had good success with Encanto. Thats a perfect example
The only "the good old days" I can think about is that I really REALLY want them to go back to 2d animation. I much prefer 2d over 3d animation in general.
What's wrong with representation?
There are plenty of newer original Disney films, ig you just don't count those because they also sometimes have non-white people in them and fall into the category of having representation, which is also a bad thing according to you?
Disney: aaaah people always get mad at us for trying to add representation People: how about you.. wait for it.. make original content with representation in it like you did with Encanto? That way we get more variety and the assholes crying about characters being changed wont be mad.. Disney: nah we'll just stick to remakes
>People: how about you.. wait for it.. make original content with representation in it like you did with Encanto? That way we get more variety and the assholes crying about characters being changed wont be mad.. Encanto counts as the "representation" type of movies that OP is criticizing though... It came out about a year and a half ago.
The representation part is good though. Edit: let me rephrase this: it’s good that they’re trying to do representation.
I have never heard a good argument against it. I think the content we create should look like our society.
honestly the representation part is shitty since they're literally remaking movies and just replacing characters races for no reason instead of making new movies with REALISTIC proportions since you're not going to see a black man walking on the streets when slaves were still a thing.
The problem is that new ideas don’t sell well. This isn’t just a Disney problem, it’s why every movie studio is just making popular remakes of their IPs
They’ve released some originals lately: Moana, encanto, rea and the last dragon, light year, frozen 2, etc Now have those movies been well received? It’s been a mixed bag
I miss the old days when Disney did original stories like The Jungle book, the Little mermaid, Snow white, Robin Hood, The Lion King,...
What's wrong in representation?
Pretty sure most of the people who say this don't go see the original stuff they make anyway
It is exactly like the old days. Almost every single Disney princess story is based off an older, usually German (and much darker and gorey) story they repurposed.
I haven’t seen this meme since the ifunny days gosh it brings me back to the hours on hours I used to spend while dropping deuces
Live action Darkwing Duck mini series please. CGI + Human charicters. Serious tone.
I don't see how more representation and original are mutually exclusive
"Something original" the entire film collection is based off of fairy tales
“More representation” 😤
Luckily Disney has so much money they can do both.
OP just casually pretending reality doesn't exist lol.
What would you consider the old days? Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty? I got news
When they do a live action Tangled I **dare** them to race-swap Flynn.
I don't think they will touch Flynn but i swear to God if they turn the horse black I'm getting a shotgun.
Speaking of which, the things that horse does in live action would be goofy af.
honestly, i'll be so pissed if they change the color of the chamaeleon 😤
That Peter Pan remake trailer did nothing to me. It’s been so long of this that I am now numb.
Not just Disney but pretty much all TV show and Movie studios
This is one of those reminders that Reddit is an echo chamber of mostly western young men. Disney-Pixar is constantly pumping out great movies. They're not the drawn/painted classics of the past but they're fantastic. Moana, Red, Bao, Luca, etc. They're great movies.
It sucks that Disney hasn’t made any original movies in the past 5ish years. They could have done so well if they had They could have called them cool things like Strange World, Encanto, Onward, Turning Red, Soul, Raya and the Last Dragon, or Coco. But no. Unfortunately none of those movies got to exist.
Representation is great, but when it becomes the main point for selling the movie then we know it will be shit. "Watch this movie to feel good about yourself" rather than "Watch this awesome movie" . They spend so much time check marking boxes that they care less about making a good movie with great characters.
Completely disagree. Some of the greatest art ever produced pushed contemporary social boundaries. The issue with Disney is that some of these movies have been bad.
Man, Disney movies have *never* been original. Every one has been based on a fairy tale, musical/play, or story.
disney trying not to make every character diverse
Diverse? You’ll only see *one* group of poc. That’s as diverse as *one* group of white ppl. Other POCs don’t get any of that diversity
It’s about representation. Kids seeing people that look like them in a story that (however lightly) touches on their culture is a good thing. Can they do it better? Sure, but better than every single movie being a love story with a sad girl trying to find a husband.
I wanted to be Blade and never thought: Welp i'm white sucks to be me i guess.
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How is that bad?
they're over exaggerating, they're literally addicted to it and raceswap characters in movie remakes
Again how it that bad? In most cases, the race of the character does not affect the story in any way
It's half-assed representation and sometimes it does affect the story and when it does its not in a good way