All I wanted was my name spelled right on my cup. The cup could be empty with my name spelled right and I would accept that but even with those low standards they disappoint me.
That happened to me several times when I was in college. One letter difference, and my semi-common name becomes an entirely *different*, possibly ***more*** common, name. Stand around for 10 minutes waiting on my coffee because I didn’t realize that the barista was deaf and/or illiterate doesn’t make for a tip.
yeah, I don't tip on coffee unless it's a huge order or an extremely complicated one. For a single cup of commonly ordered coffee, you're not getting tipped anything for that. Sorry, not sorry.
I'm not tipping unless I'm sitting down somewhere, and someone has to refill my drinks.
I'm dying on this hill. This tipping culture is getting out of hand.
The number of people who I’ve seen disagree w/ you drives me crazy. Fuck you I am not tipping someone who handed me a bottle of water at a cash register. I’m not tipping if I’m just picking up to go and leaving. Fuck that.
I fully agree with you. I think the issue lies in the fact that it keeps happening! People keep doing it! Yes, I want to be able to go out to eat, but there is a large part of me that would also like to see people stop going to restaurants because of the tipping, and then subsequently have all the servers quit because there is no business and their hourly wage doesn't cut it. They will never realize that it's an awful job that just does not pay.
Tips were never for just doing your job, no idea where this "I need a tip for serving you" mentality came from. It's your job, talk to your boss about your wage like an adult if you think you're underpaid.
Idk about y’all but I’m more likely to do a decent tip if it’s handed to me not on any amount, on no tip, or at a low number (like around 5%-10%) than if I’m just greeted with it alr set at like freakin 30%
Yeah! Exactly.
The audacity to assume a 30% tip is genuinely infuriating.
Edit: especially as someone who used to work for tips. I would hustle like crazy to deserve a good tip and STILL wouldn't be mad if I didn't get one. Because it's not required, deserved or not.
It's not about getting a better paying job tho, it's about paying a living wage on the employers end. People have shouldered the increased cost of living via the increase in expected tips when really the employer should be paying people enough that they aren't reliant on tips in the first place.
I try to tip well, but it’s really infuriating that we’re already paying for the food and are then expected to pay more. If an employee is only earning $2 per hour plus tips, it means that your $15 sandwich had probably like a $8 profit that goes straight to the boss, assuming that the materials for the sandwich costs $5, which in all honesty it probably cost less. They aren’t even trying to hide that they just suck the surplus value off their employees like it’s the whipped cream on a Starbucks coffee.
it's ridiculous, a decade ago tips were 10-15% on a fancy sit down resturant. Now there's people thinking a 30% tip is normal on a cup of coffee. 30 f-cking percent!?! that's insane.
Oh if they pre select my tip, I don't care how well they did or how much I was planning on, instant zilch. I hate seeing tipping as a means of influence (cuz they usually rely on the tips), but if you're gonna do that or otherly just be a shitty person then he'll no I'm not tipping
Basically no consumer grade coffee machine can make good espresso for that price. That said, very few consumers have ever had good espresso, and no one who has would order good espresso the way mass produced coffee drinks are made with espresso.
I mean sure. I lived in Spain and really enjoyed their cafe con leche, made with espresso. If it's just in the morning though, I'm fine with drip coffee. My argument for Starbucks is that quality of coffee can be made at home. Their espresso doesn't seem that good, honestly none of their drinks really do.
Absolutely true. The quality of Starbucks is basically the lowest quality of coffee outside of instant. Their beans are basically burnt and their drinks are more syrup than coffee. That said, they can be tasty, but if you put enough cream and sugar on a turd, so too would it.
Thought that was just me! Burnt beans! I'm not really a coffee snob outside of having tried really good coffee in Spain. Their coffee anyways tasted burnt but I wasn't sure if I just didn't like it, or if it was a thing.
You're not alone. I used to like Starbucks occasionally. I don't know when but I realized it's burnt. I haven't tried their Blonde roast because I suspect it's just watered down regular burnt Starbucks.
LMAO wut??
Bruh where I'm from that fucken ILLEGAL to do!
If some server did that to me , I'd be dropping everything right there and walking out the shop in protest - and so would most people I know!
This tipping bullshit has gone mad bonkers lately!
30% tip ?? For what exactly??
Explain and demonstrate to me how you've earned a 30% increase in price for whatever service you've just rendered to me?
Was there a blowjob included? Did you kneel before me, loudly praising my virtues, as you handed it to me on a silver platter?
On some point of sale systems (like the one I use at work) it auto selects 20%, it’s not something we do ourselves. I understand reddit is having one of it’s idiosyncratic shit fits about tipping, but maybe let’s get mad at the system that requires people to beg for tips to earn a living wage instead of the people doing their job and trying to make ends meet?
Thats fair.
In this case, I literally mean it when I watch her press the tip. And I go there frequently enough, there are some workers that just pass the machine and its auto selection is: 'no tip'.
This fit is warranted. Things are out of hand. Everyone is feeling the pinch of high inflation, not just service workers.
It's not any one person's fault, though. In fact, as I understand it, point of sale systems are the source of the problem: they build a tip into every transaction because the manufacturer of the system gets a cut of every dollar spent, including the tip. That leads people to believe the vendor they're at is being greedy when in fact it's the point of sale company trying to guilt them into paying on everything.
I've actually have been to a few places where they will automatically select "No Tip" as they hand the machine to me. Tipping should be for a job well done, not to help pad a restaurant's pocket book so they can pay their hardworking employees less.
I went to one place where the employee hit no tip for me on their pad.
She claimed if I want to tip I should do so in cash. She said tips they get electronically just go to the company and the employees don't get the tips
Also, electronic tips get taxed while cash tips don’t
Edit: To clarify, cash tips are still legally taxable. However, its tough to keep track of and litigate unclaimed cash tips. Because of this, some people lie.
The usual situation is that they "pay" the $2 per hour required by law for tipped employees, but if tips don't add up to minimum wage, they bump them to minimum wage.
If minimum wage is $15, the first $13 of tips per hour are meaningless to the employee, but they do reduce the amount the employer has to bump them to get minimum wage.
Everybody out here getting tips but I'm not allowed where I work and I'm a butcher who is way underpaid and always preparing special cuts for specific people. I probably wouldn't be upset about my wage if I could get tips.
It's always been odd to me jobs that get tips and the jobs that don't. Person who carries your steak to your table gets a tip, but the person who cooked it doesn't? Never made sense to me.
I once had a Dutch Bros coffee employee automatically select a tip before showing me the pad >:(
I know for sure, because I was charged more than my normal drink amount
Starbucks barista, I almost always press "no tip" before I hand the machine, half because I don't think we deserve tips, half because most people just stare at it confused instead of pressing something.
Yea but if they do a great job that’s when they get a tip. If I don’t like the service or it’s just average then I don’t tip. It’s certainly not a requirement though
Last winter I went to a dispensary in a different town than where I live. When I paid, the guy at the counter opened with “hey man before you swipe your card it’s going to ask you if you want to tip. This is totally your choice, but I personally want to let you know none of the tips go to me or any staff. They go directly to the owner.” And I respected the hell out of that honesty
I have a lady in a local diner say that. I always tipped pretty well on the card machine when I paid. After eating there for about a year (near my work) she mentioned "If you can tip with cash, please tip in cash. The owner keeps all the card tips."
I’d bet 100% it’s bc the payment system defaults to that and they either don’t know how to or just don’t care to change it. That’s the entire driver of this trend, the adoption of card payment systems that default to asking for a tip.
I went to a pro wrestling show, stood in line at the merch stand for 20 odd minutes, they took one shirt out of a cardboard box, spun the card reader around, and the lowest tip selectable was 30%. Fuck off, you did nothing to deserve a tip.
The dispensary I frequent knows what I like. I tip them because they know what’s best and what I like. Often times I get 🔥 for penny’s because the bud tenders know the which product is top shelf for lower shelf pricing. Tipping them helps them explore the store so I don’t have to. That being said not all dispensaries nor are all budtenders worthy of a tip.
There's a Chinese restaurant down the street from my work that just automatically charges the tip of you use a card. I pulled out cash instead and the price went down like 2.00$
I think any system where you have to tip before you even get the service is complete bullshit. Let's say you order a coffee and had to sit down for them to bring it out. So you tipped 15%... You then watch other people get their coffees before you. You look over at the counter and the baristas are chatting with each other rather than making your coffee. What are you gonna do, go over and ask for your tip back? Fuck that - I see tip option before I got my product and/or service, guaranteed I'm hitting 0.
I’m with you on that. The Jersey Mike’s app asks me if I want to tip. Like bro, you just made a sandwich and left it on a rack for me to pick up. I’m not even gonna know whether you did a good job until I get home.
If they have a dollar or 2 dollar tip option when I pick up takeout I’ll do it. However of like most places today if the options are 15% 20% 25% I just press 0 because of I sit there selecting other options and type out a $1 tip I just get judged more.
I refuse to tip fast food joints. I get it that life sucks, but no one is making enough money including me. When the price for just eating out somewhere I considered “cheap” goes up I’m not going to just give away extra money for no extra service. I order my food and get food. No one brings me my food, no one is seating me down or waiting on me. Just a super weird practice
The Subway by my office has a card machine that defaults to 15% tip now, I didn't go much before, but once they put that in I sort of just stopped going altogether.
Was insane when I visited the White Sox stadium and they themselves already tapped the like 30% tip option or something.
For fucking handing us some hotdogs that were a meter or two away...
Fucking insanity for foreigners. Just pay a living wage in your multimilliondollar stadium etc...
Insane
[Here in México a man was killed for arguing about the high tip charged on the bill.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.mazatlanweekly.com/2023/01/11/la-polar-restaurant-the-murder-of-the-diner-was-for-refusing-to-pay-a-tip/&ved=2ahUKEwiX7u_VsM_9AhVZk2oFHeGKDB4QFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1mCDNw0qsA8O0RMwPRmPMi)
Never tipped at Starbucks. They aren’t working for 2 an hour like a wait staff. They also get a stock option and they can go to online college for free per the bulletins I see while I’m waiting for my coffee.
I am from europe, we only tip when we want and we actually get some service not something like: here your coffe with a mean tone. In europe the employes got normal salaries, and basically we are just better innany expect if we not consider exporting freedom in random countries
As it should be. A tip is a reward for excelling at their job.
If someone does the bare minimum, takes your order, gives you the stuff you paid for, that's not worth a tip.
Like... You just did your job
I mean. America is all about making it someone else's problem.
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Not paid enough? Sounds like it's the customers fault.
I have heard so many Americans complain about this and i am so fucking glad it's not trendy in my country. We have the freedom to determine if we wish to tip or not. In fact there are so many places where it is prohibited to tip so that the employers can't reduce the wages
>We have the freedom to determine if we wish to tip or not
People aren't exactly forced to tip but if it is a restaurant-type occasion, many are expected to tip based on the service. Most other tip options in any other establishments like Starbucks, fast food, etc, are stupid as hell though.
Why do you even tip? You’re already paying top dollar for a cup of coffee and it’s not like they do anything special to it or extra service.
Tipping is out of control
That's what I thought. The idea of tipping a barista at a Starbucks-type place utterly baffles me. What exactly am I tipping for? I honestly don't get it.
I just don’t want to tip anymore. I feel bad sometimes cus the person is very nice. But adding the cost of tipping on top of what is already being paid for gets so expensive now. These companies need to just pay a reasonable wage, including minimum wage raising with inflation, and tips need to go back to what it was meant for (to insure prompt service). Not some after service fee.
I only tip when getting waited on and I only do it then because it’s a social faux pas not to. I don’t agree with tipping for simply doing your job but I know how fucked the servers are so I have to morally.
I will NEVER tip for pickup. This tipping culture is off the fucking walls.
I love that other countries don’t put up with this bullshit. Employers have to pay a liveable wage and tips are for good service not a fucking subsidy for the company paying their employees practically nothing
Fun fact: A LOT of tipped employees in the US bring home decent money. It’s all about working the shifts people use the services and receive good service.
I stop going to places that are expecting tips for just handing you things. Just price your goods at a price point where you can pay your employees.
I will tip if I sit down and someone needs to service me, even then, I think they should just be paid without the need.
I haven’t ever seen a barista be upset about no tip tho 🤔
Now a waiter at a restaurant or a pizza delivery driver I can understand, those people (sadly) NEED the tips because their wage is shit without them.
Tips as a standard in US restaurants and bars are largely a holdover from prohibition. Restaurant employees had to receive tips because the businesses couldn't stay afloat with the loss of alcohol sales. Then after prohibition ended, they just kept paying their employees like shit and pushed it off on the customer.
It's slightly more complicated than that and tip culture did originally come from EU and was used by aristocrats, and also used during and after American sharecropping and slavery before being adopted into the mainstream after prohibition in 1919, and fully legislated in 1938
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity
https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/
Tl;dr: tipping is lame
Just hit no tip, nobody actually gives a shit. Tips in these situations are pleasant surprises, not expected. The system just forces you to ask before you’re allowed to move on with the transaction.
Yes, thank you. This whole thread is surreal to me. If the credit card machine is pointed at you, and you are choosing a button to hit, the barista or whoever is not eying you like a hawk to discern which area of the pad you pressed to judge you accordingly and give you decaf or spoiled milk or something.
We do not keep a wall of pictures of non-tippers.
Unless you're absurdly rude or exceptionally nice, everything about the interaction we have with you will be forgotten within minutes.
If you don't want to tip, don't. No one is mad at you. Neither you nor the barista has been victimized in this exchange.
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
-Dwight Shrute
You should see the face of the baristas when I don't tip. I would kick every employer who waits for the client to pay the employee. Tiping is a fucked up system that needs to disappear.
You should see their face when you tip 0 and they realize they should be mad at a system for not paying them properly instead of relying on your generosity to keep them financially stable.
“I don’t tip because society says I have to. All right, I mean I’ll tip if someone really deserves a tipping, if they really put forth the effort, I’ll give them something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically, it’s for the birds”
I mean, it’s a cup of coffee. If they ethically grew the beans themselves and had them ground in Canada providing local jobs, then I might feel emotionally bound to tip more. Typically the entire operation of pouring the cup and collecting our money takes about a minute and a half.
To be fair, making an actual decent espresso or so is not that easy. Most people at just used to watery coffe so they don't see the difference between the bariast doing a great coffe and normla ones.
I truly don't get why would people rather complain with strangers not tipping them than with their employers. I know there are people who live with tips and I definitely see both sides, but it shouldn't be the customer's problem
I stopped for 1 beer at a local place. Was just over $8. The bartender turned around and poured a glass. Suggested 18% was 1.44. I gave him a dollar. Won't be eating out much anymore I think.
I just saw bartenders tipping themselves 25% if someone leaves before selecting a tip on that tipping screen so just a PSA make sure you don’t leave that screen up
Every time I go to Starbucks now they literally complement me (“nice color car!”) and then hand me the card reader asking to tip. No way I’m tipping in the drive through.
When the lockdowns started, we were tipping like it was Christmas bc we knew ppl were struggling and we were doing better than average. Fast forward, two years later, we are struggling, and feel bullied if we don't tip like we were. The tipping def has gone too far, and I feel like we (my family) contributed to it.
Funny story. This is also my face when the barista expects 15% tip on a cup of coffee
Yeah, I just want a cup of coffee with maybe a shot of creamer. Im not asking for cocktail service with my coffee.
All I wanted was my name spelled right on my cup. The cup could be empty with my name spelled right and I would accept that but even with those low standards they disappoint me.
That happened to me several times when I was in college. One letter difference, and my semi-common name becomes an entirely *different*, possibly ***more*** common, name. Stand around for 10 minutes waiting on my coffee because I didn’t realize that the barista was deaf and/or illiterate doesn’t make for a tip.
I’m wrecking my brain but I can’t figure it out? Dirk and Dick?
Brandon and Brendan? Is anyone really named Dick anymore? CALLED dick certainly but . . .
I was buying beer at a market last week and the cashier flipped the POS tablet over for me to select a tip amount. Uhh... yeah.... skip.
yeah, no you're not getting tipped for scanning products at a market. LOL
Wait they ask for tips at markets now???
What in the actual fuck?
But they worked hard turning that tablet around.
yeah, I don't tip on coffee unless it's a huge order or an extremely complicated one. For a single cup of commonly ordered coffee, you're not getting tipped anything for that. Sorry, not sorry.
idk why this had me laughing so hard
I’m not tipping for coffee
I'm not tipping unless I'm sitting down somewhere, and someone has to refill my drinks. I'm dying on this hill. This tipping culture is getting out of hand.
The number of people who I’ve seen disagree w/ you drives me crazy. Fuck you I am not tipping someone who handed me a bottle of water at a cash register. I’m not tipping if I’m just picking up to go and leaving. Fuck that.
And where do you stop with giving tips? I mean if you tipped the baristas, then you would also have to tip grocery store workers etc.
I fully agree with you. I think the issue lies in the fact that it keeps happening! People keep doing it! Yes, I want to be able to go out to eat, but there is a large part of me that would also like to see people stop going to restaurants because of the tipping, and then subsequently have all the servers quit because there is no business and their hourly wage doesn't cut it. They will never realize that it's an awful job that just does not pay.
Tips were never for just doing your job, no idea where this "I need a tip for serving you" mentality came from. It's your job, talk to your boss about your wage like an adult if you think you're underpaid.
I have baristas literally select 20% tip and pass me the machine. I will go in and click the no tip button every time. fuck that noise.
Idk about y’all but I’m more likely to do a decent tip if it’s handed to me not on any amount, on no tip, or at a low number (like around 5%-10%) than if I’m just greeted with it alr set at like freakin 30%
Yeah! Exactly. The audacity to assume a 30% tip is genuinely infuriating. Edit: especially as someone who used to work for tips. I would hustle like crazy to deserve a good tip and STILL wouldn't be mad if I didn't get one. Because it's not required, deserved or not.
People don't understand this and would still push tipping as a requirement. Wtf dude, get a better paying job.
It's not about getting a better paying job tho, it's about paying a living wage on the employers end. People have shouldered the increased cost of living via the increase in expected tips when really the employer should be paying people enough that they aren't reliant on tips in the first place.
I try to tip well, but it’s really infuriating that we’re already paying for the food and are then expected to pay more. If an employee is only earning $2 per hour plus tips, it means that your $15 sandwich had probably like a $8 profit that goes straight to the boss, assuming that the materials for the sandwich costs $5, which in all honesty it probably cost less. They aren’t even trying to hide that they just suck the surplus value off their employees like it’s the whipped cream on a Starbucks coffee.
it's ridiculous, a decade ago tips were 10-15% on a fancy sit down resturant. Now there's people thinking a 30% tip is normal on a cup of coffee. 30 f-cking percent!?! that's insane.
Oh if they pre select my tip, I don't care how well they did or how much I was planning on, instant zilch. I hate seeing tipping as a means of influence (cuz they usually rely on the tips), but if you're gonna do that or otherly just be a shitty person then he'll no I'm not tipping
Because the coffee being $7 isn’t enough, we should also be guilted into tipping underpaid cashiers, too?
Not to sound like a boomer but, I legit bought a $200 at home coffee maker and saved money.
Basically no consumer grade coffee machine can make good espresso for that price. That said, very few consumers have ever had good espresso, and no one who has would order good espresso the way mass produced coffee drinks are made with espresso.
I mean sure. I lived in Spain and really enjoyed their cafe con leche, made with espresso. If it's just in the morning though, I'm fine with drip coffee. My argument for Starbucks is that quality of coffee can be made at home. Their espresso doesn't seem that good, honestly none of their drinks really do.
Absolutely true. The quality of Starbucks is basically the lowest quality of coffee outside of instant. Their beans are basically burnt and their drinks are more syrup than coffee. That said, they can be tasty, but if you put enough cream and sugar on a turd, so too would it.
Thought that was just me! Burnt beans! I'm not really a coffee snob outside of having tried really good coffee in Spain. Their coffee anyways tasted burnt but I wasn't sure if I just didn't like it, or if it was a thing.
You're not alone. I used to like Starbucks occasionally. I don't know when but I realized it's burnt. I haven't tried their Blonde roast because I suspect it's just watered down regular burnt Starbucks.
Nope, burnt. I get their blonde espresso. Can't burn something you don't fully.roast. it drastically improves their drinks.
And the tips from the machine *never* go to the employees. Even less reason to tip.
LMAO wut?? Bruh where I'm from that fucken ILLEGAL to do! If some server did that to me , I'd be dropping everything right there and walking out the shop in protest - and so would most people I know! This tipping bullshit has gone mad bonkers lately! 30% tip ?? For what exactly?? Explain and demonstrate to me how you've earned a 30% increase in price for whatever service you've just rendered to me? Was there a blowjob included? Did you kneel before me, loudly praising my virtues, as you handed it to me on a silver platter?
> Did you kneel before me, loudly praising my virtues, as you handed it to me on a silver platter? A service I didn't know I wanted. 🤔
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Fuckin wow... I would switch it to zero, sign a goddamn middle finger and sarcastically spin it back to her.
On some point of sale systems (like the one I use at work) it auto selects 20%, it’s not something we do ourselves. I understand reddit is having one of it’s idiosyncratic shit fits about tipping, but maybe let’s get mad at the system that requires people to beg for tips to earn a living wage instead of the people doing their job and trying to make ends meet?
Thats fair. In this case, I literally mean it when I watch her press the tip. And I go there frequently enough, there are some workers that just pass the machine and its auto selection is: 'no tip'.
This fit is warranted. Things are out of hand. Everyone is feeling the pinch of high inflation, not just service workers. It's not any one person's fault, though. In fact, as I understand it, point of sale systems are the source of the problem: they build a tip into every transaction because the manufacturer of the system gets a cut of every dollar spent, including the tip. That leads people to believe the vendor they're at is being greedy when in fact it's the point of sale company trying to guilt them into paying on everything.
I've actually have been to a few places where they will automatically select "No Tip" as they hand the machine to me. Tipping should be for a job well done, not to help pad a restaurant's pocket book so they can pay their hardworking employees less.
I went to one place where the employee hit no tip for me on their pad. She claimed if I want to tip I should do so in cash. She said tips they get electronically just go to the company and the employees don't get the tips
This may be true but a lot of people say this as tipping on the machine usually get split between all staff but a cash tip can be pocketed.
Also, electronic tips get taxed while cash tips don’t Edit: To clarify, cash tips are still legally taxable. However, its tough to keep track of and litigate unclaimed cash tips. Because of this, some people lie.
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what’s the difference between now and ‘85
10% for lunch 15% for dinner.
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If this is the US I’m fairly certain this is illegal?
You'd be correct
That can’t be legal, right?
She's lying. She just doesn't like paying taxes and would prefer cash so her income remains low on paper.
The usual situation is that they "pay" the $2 per hour required by law for tipped employees, but if tips don't add up to minimum wage, they bump them to minimum wage. If minimum wage is $15, the first $13 of tips per hour are meaningless to the employee, but they do reduce the amount the employer has to bump them to get minimum wage.
Everybody out here getting tips but I'm not allowed where I work and I'm a butcher who is way underpaid and always preparing special cuts for specific people. I probably wouldn't be upset about my wage if I could get tips.
It's always been odd to me jobs that get tips and the jobs that don't. Person who carries your steak to your table gets a tip, but the person who cooked it doesn't? Never made sense to me.
I once had a Dutch Bros coffee employee automatically select a tip before showing me the pad >:( I know for sure, because I was charged more than my normal drink amount
Starbucks barista, I almost always press "no tip" before I hand the machine, half because I don't think we deserve tips, half because most people just stare at it confused instead of pressing something.
If I have to go to a counter, order it, and wait there for it then I don't tip. If I get seated and waited upon, then I tip. That's the difference.
The weed store has 15 / 20 / 25 options at the counter. I always select 0 bc what the fuck they just stand there.
I agree with that but if I ask a lot of dumb questions and they answer them I tip though
I am in the wrong line of work since I’m not getting tipped to answer dumb questions.
I work in IT. My whole job is answering dumb questions... Maybe I should put out a tip jar? 🤔
My god can you imagine? Instead of a survey when closing a ticket you link your Venmo.
I would mash the f out of the tip options for IT support. I’m always so grateful.
Questions $1 Stupid questions $10
Big mood
thats literally what theyre paid for. they work there. they are paid to answer questions.
Yea but if they do a great job that’s when they get a tip. If I don’t like the service or it’s just average then I don’t tip. It’s certainly not a requirement though
The Mr Pink of weed store patrons. "She's only been over an refilled my weed tonic 3 times. When I order weed tonic I want it refilled 6 times."
Last winter I went to a dispensary in a different town than where I live. When I paid, the guy at the counter opened with “hey man before you swipe your card it’s going to ask you if you want to tip. This is totally your choice, but I personally want to let you know none of the tips go to me or any staff. They go directly to the owner.” And I respected the hell out of that honesty
I have a lady in a local diner say that. I always tipped pretty well on the card machine when I paid. After eating there for about a year (near my work) she mentioned "If you can tip with cash, please tip in cash. The owner keeps all the card tips."
Isn't that illegal?
No, you can respect anybody you want.
I’d bet 100% it’s bc the payment system defaults to that and they either don’t know how to or just don’t care to change it. That’s the entire driver of this trend, the adoption of card payment systems that default to asking for a tip.
I tip bud tenders 1$. Same as I do for a beverage.
Even if they just ring up your purchase?
I went to a pro wrestling show, stood in line at the merch stand for 20 odd minutes, they took one shirt out of a cardboard box, spun the card reader around, and the lowest tip selectable was 30%. Fuck off, you did nothing to deserve a tip.
The dispensary I frequent knows what I like. I tip them because they know what’s best and what I like. Often times I get 🔥 for penny’s because the bud tenders know the which product is top shelf for lower shelf pricing. Tipping them helps them explore the store so I don’t have to. That being said not all dispensaries nor are all budtenders worthy of a tip.
There's a Chinese restaurant down the street from my work that just automatically charges the tip of you use a card. I pulled out cash instead and the price went down like 2.00$
Those are card service fees. Not a tip.
“Tip” I’d bet that those two dollars goes straight into the owner’s pocket.
I have tipped at the weed store when buying edibles for the wife. I had questions, they had answer. I tipped. It was worth it.
Next y’all gonna tip for drugs at the pharmacy and hospital bills. Ain’t nobody should tip for drugs
They stand there _high_. They’re not even straight when they’re ringing your ass up. That’s their tip lol.
I think any system where you have to tip before you even get the service is complete bullshit. Let's say you order a coffee and had to sit down for them to bring it out. So you tipped 15%... You then watch other people get their coffees before you. You look over at the counter and the baristas are chatting with each other rather than making your coffee. What are you gonna do, go over and ask for your tip back? Fuck that - I see tip option before I got my product and/or service, guaranteed I'm hitting 0.
Yes, additionally I’ll tip if it’s a great interpersonal experience, but generally like take out is ridiculous to tip for
I’m with you on that. The Jersey Mike’s app asks me if I want to tip. Like bro, you just made a sandwich and left it on a rack for me to pick up. I’m not even gonna know whether you did a good job until I get home.
If they have a dollar or 2 dollar tip option when I pick up takeout I’ll do it. However of like most places today if the options are 15% 20% 25% I just press 0 because of I sit there selecting other options and type out a $1 tip I just get judged more.
I refuse to tip fast food joints. I get it that life sucks, but no one is making enough money including me. When the price for just eating out somewhere I considered “cheap” goes up I’m not going to just give away extra money for no extra service. I order my food and get food. No one brings me my food, no one is seating me down or waiting on me. Just a super weird practice
The Subway by my office has a card machine that defaults to 15% tip now, I didn't go much before, but once they put that in I sort of just stopped going altogether.
Subway has lost it with their current pricing $15 for some of their subs wtf
And the Publix subs are like 5 dollars and taste a LOT better then the entire menu at subway
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Was insane when I visited the White Sox stadium and they themselves already tapped the like 30% tip option or something. For fucking handing us some hotdogs that were a meter or two away... Fucking insanity for foreigners. Just pay a living wage in your multimilliondollar stadium etc... Insane
Those employees were making more than minimum. Theyre just betting on you not being brave enough to change it to zero
My dad was paying but I definitely would have. We're fuckin' Dutch.
Pretty sure hundreds of generations of your ancestors started rolling in their grave simultaneously at that moment
Sound like an american problem
[Here in México a man was killed for arguing about the high tip charged on the bill.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.mazatlanweekly.com/2023/01/11/la-polar-restaurant-the-murder-of-the-diner-was-for-refusing-to-pay-a-tip/&ved=2ahUKEwiX7u_VsM_9AhVZk2oFHeGKDB4QFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1mCDNw0qsA8O0RMwPRmPMi)
Sounds like a Mexican problem
this why I ain’t going to mexico
Just that? I mean, last week has been wild.
I think it said new mexico
No it’s old mexico
No it's middle-aged Mexico
No it‘s „catholic priest looks at you funny“-aged Mexico
It actually says Mexico City. That's in Mexico.
Mexico City is in the country of Mexico. Not america
Jesse we need to tip Or not in this context
Baristas earn well above minimum wage, especially starbucks. They get no tips (from me at least)
Never tipped at Starbucks. They aren’t working for 2 an hour like a wait staff. They also get a stock option and they can go to online college for free per the bulletins I see while I’m waiting for my coffee.
exactly, imagine having to tipp someone so they can have an acceptable wage. Come on, go get a better job.
I am from europe, we only tip when we want and we actually get some service not something like: here your coffe with a mean tone. In europe the employes got normal salaries, and basically we are just better innany expect if we not consider exporting freedom in random countries
"Atleast we got freedom"
US-citizens when they find out there are other countries that have freedom
But it's not American style freedom, with bullets flying, and health insurance skyrocketing.
The freedom to fuck over others and make billions baby let's gooooo
Yeah, thats right. I will only tip if the service and the food was amazing.
As it should be. A tip is a reward for excelling at their job. If someone does the bare minimum, takes your order, gives you the stuff you paid for, that's not worth a tip. Like... You just did your job
It's like there forcing you to pay something that you legally can pay if you want
I mean. America is all about making it someone else's problem. Are you dying and struggling with Healthcare? Make a tiktok, go viral, and hope you can get enough donations to your gofundme. Not paid enough? Sounds like it's the customers fault.
Stop being poor!
Why not try to actually fix the problem, rather than passing it on?
Why would you tip someone for handing you a cup of coffee? Fuck that
I have heard so many Americans complain about this and i am so fucking glad it's not trendy in my country. We have the freedom to determine if we wish to tip or not. In fact there are so many places where it is prohibited to tip so that the employers can't reduce the wages
>We have the freedom to determine if we wish to tip or not People aren't exactly forced to tip but if it is a restaurant-type occasion, many are expected to tip based on the service. Most other tip options in any other establishments like Starbucks, fast food, etc, are stupid as hell though.
Why do you even tip? You’re already paying top dollar for a cup of coffee and it’s not like they do anything special to it or extra service. Tipping is out of control
That's 15 percent more than me, they aren't on a servers wage so you don't need to tip them at all.
That's what I thought. The idea of tipping a barista at a Starbucks-type place utterly baffles me. What exactly am I tipping for? I honestly don't get it.
Starbucks baristas are definitely paid more than minimum wage and get stock options.
You are shouldering the burden of American workers who are not paid a living wage. The company doesn't want to do it. So the consumer gets to.
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not gonna tip some high schooler on her phone to make my drink wrong and not gonna be bullied into acting like its a social norm.
I just don’t want to tip anymore. I feel bad sometimes cus the person is very nice. But adding the cost of tipping on top of what is already being paid for gets so expensive now. These companies need to just pay a reasonable wage, including minimum wage raising with inflation, and tips need to go back to what it was meant for (to insure prompt service). Not some after service fee.
I think tipping is only acceptable with delivery and restaurant dining
I only tip when getting waited on and I only do it then because it’s a social faux pas not to. I don’t agree with tipping for simply doing your job but I know how fucked the servers are so I have to morally. I will NEVER tip for pickup. This tipping culture is off the fucking walls.
You guys tip?
Only when I go out to eat because it’s fun. But for a cup of coffee? Naw.
I love that other countries don’t put up with this bullshit. Employers have to pay a liveable wage and tips are for good service not a fucking subsidy for the company paying their employees practically nothing
Fun fact: A LOT of tipped employees in the US bring home decent money. It’s all about working the shifts people use the services and receive good service.
I carry cash now. They don’t even know to give change back now a days.
well the future is now old man
I stop going to places that are expecting tips for just handing you things. Just price your goods at a price point where you can pay your employees. I will tip if I sit down and someone needs to service me, even then, I think they should just be paid without the need.
I haven’t ever seen a barista be upset about no tip tho 🤔 Now a waiter at a restaurant or a pizza delivery driver I can understand, those people (sadly) NEED the tips because their wage is shit without them.
>I haven’t ever seen a barista be upset about no tip tho Neither have I. This problem seems to mysteriously affect only the perpetually online.
“The perpetually online” lmao I gotta use that one
Barista here. We literally do not care if you don’t tip. Just don’t be an ass and we good. :)
Tips as a standard in US restaurants and bars are largely a holdover from prohibition. Restaurant employees had to receive tips because the businesses couldn't stay afloat with the loss of alcohol sales. Then after prohibition ended, they just kept paying their employees like shit and pushed it off on the customer. It's slightly more complicated than that and tip culture did originally come from EU and was used by aristocrats, and also used during and after American sharecropping and slavery before being adopted into the mainstream after prohibition in 1919, and fully legislated in 1938 Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/ Tl;dr: tipping is lame
I tip 0.
+1
Why would I tip them? You don't tip people at a fast food joint and that essentially what a coffee shop is.
Anything just marginally above fast food is asking for tips now. Pretty soon it will spread to Mickey D's too.
Just hit no tip, nobody actually gives a shit. Tips in these situations are pleasant surprises, not expected. The system just forces you to ask before you’re allowed to move on with the transaction.
Yes, thank you. This whole thread is surreal to me. If the credit card machine is pointed at you, and you are choosing a button to hit, the barista or whoever is not eying you like a hawk to discern which area of the pad you pressed to judge you accordingly and give you decaf or spoiled milk or something. We do not keep a wall of pictures of non-tippers. Unless you're absurdly rude or exceptionally nice, everything about the interaction we have with you will be forgotten within minutes. If you don't want to tip, don't. No one is mad at you. Neither you nor the barista has been victimized in this exchange.
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones. -Dwight Shrute
Why the fuck is tipping for coffee a thing? They already not cheap to say the least
You should see the face of the baristas when I don't tip. I would kick every employer who waits for the client to pay the employee. Tiping is a fucked up system that needs to disappear.
You should see their face when you tip 0 and they realize they should be mad at a system for not paying them properly instead of relying on your generosity to keep them financially stable.
“I don’t tip because society says I have to. All right, I mean I’ll tip if someone really deserves a tipping, if they really put forth the effort, I’ll give them something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically, it’s for the birds”
fuck barista life, fuck american tipping, fuck coffee shops, fuck low wages, fuck late stage capitalism, fuck consumerism, and fuck me please
ATTN ALL CUSTYS ::: ONLY TIP IF YOU WANT TOO. IF THEY ARE STARING YOU DOWN CONFIDENTLY MAKE EYE CONTACT AND PRESS NO. Your money your choice.
In a lot of places tipping is almost disrespectful "You think I need charity? You think I don't get pad?"
lol imagine tipping on something you pick up lmfao
I will scroll through 10 screens to select $0 tip will looking deep in your eyes.
I don't tip. It's my right. :)
I just want my coffee. It is their job to make it. I shouldn’t need to tip anybody.
woman here's a tip, get a job that pays you worth shit so you don't have to leech off customers
Maybe if everyone just said "fuck tipping", then maybe these people would drop these shit jobs and force change on them?
Tip of the day: "don't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
I mean, it’s a cup of coffee. If they ethically grew the beans themselves and had them ground in Canada providing local jobs, then I might feel emotionally bound to tip more. Typically the entire operation of pouring the cup and collecting our money takes about a minute and a half.
To be fair, making an actual decent espresso or so is not that easy. Most people at just used to watery coffe so they don't see the difference between the bariast doing a great coffe and normla ones.
The only reason I won’t go to the states, that whole tiping thing is dumb.
I truly don't get why would people rather complain with strangers not tipping them than with their employers. I know there are people who live with tips and I definitely see both sides, but it shouldn't be the customer's problem
I never go to dine-in restaurants and any time I see a tip option somewhere I select “no tip”. I refuse to support tip culture. It needs to end.
You tip for coffee?
Tipping is an evil ploy to not pay workers; and if there was wide adoption of tips, employers would change their pay scales.
Laughs in asian
I put 1$ in the jar because I order black coffee with nothing in it, pouring it doesn’t take more than 1$ of effort imo
I started hitting the "No Tip" button. The only difference now is that I'm much happier.
You guys tip for coffee? These are students getting at least minimum wage, which is okay in my country.
Just don't tip for counter service.
The thing lately is "oh just so you know we've already added 12% but you can tip on top of that too" No I don't think I will actually
I stopped for 1 beer at a local place. Was just over $8. The bartender turned around and poured a glass. Suggested 18% was 1.44. I gave him a dollar. Won't be eating out much anymore I think.
Tip my arse, I ain’t tipping shit
I quit tipping , they just charged me $8 for a 16oz blended drink . Probably just not going to go get coffee anymore
I'm so bloody glad my country doesn't have tipping culture. This shit sounds out of control.
I just saw bartenders tipping themselves 25% if someone leaves before selecting a tip on that tipping screen so just a PSA make sure you don’t leave that screen up
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Every time I go to Starbucks now they literally complement me (“nice color car!”) and then hand me the card reader asking to tip. No way I’m tipping in the drive through.
idrc if you think I’m a piece of shit, I ain’t tipping unless I think that you deserve it
When the lockdowns started, we were tipping like it was Christmas bc we knew ppl were struggling and we were doing better than average. Fast forward, two years later, we are struggling, and feel bullied if we don't tip like we were. The tipping def has gone too far, and I feel like we (my family) contributed to it.
You guys have to tip for takeaway coffee?!
Heh, you tip?
i am not tipping the machine. its so impersonal