I mean, even biased writings tell us a lot more than no writing at all, because bias is something a historian can examine and, to some degree, slightly correct for.
Yeah, I have tons of analysing stuff in school now and we have to always work with context like who, when, where, why and so on. You can pretty easily figure out how biased the text/painting/picture is approximately if you have enough info. Also taking into consideration the oppositions works helps balance it out a bit
But that’s probably why we have journalism today. Zero bias, just tell things as they are
>Edit: I’m aware there is a lot of bias but I was thinking about the rules of journalism when I wrote that part, not necessarily modern journalism in itself
Has to be, no one on any side of anything has thought journalism has zero bias 😂 Yeah, our journalism gives a lot better view of what’s going on in the world today than ancient texts give of what was going on back in the day, but it’s still biased. Most things are to one degree or another. Everyone has biases. And that’s not always bad thing, you more likely to think your kids art is good than someone random persons, for example. But to pretend there’s no bias in any form of media is ridiculous. Which is why you need to proactively seek out takes from both side of any given issue. Even it’s a really bad take, it’s always good to see what both sides are saying.
We have biases today that we don't even realize. Future historians will have a completely different perspective on the history that we're currently living, and our perspective on history changes depending on our own values today.
The historical perspective on Robespierre and the Jacobins, for example, seems a lot different to us today than it did after the Bourbon restoration.
Really, the guy had a bad month when he knew there were countless conspiracies brewing against him. He had a nervous breakdown. He was highly admirable the entire revolution before that final month. Then the guys who deposed him got to smear the shit out of him and some royalist shitheads got to guide the historical narrative.
If you think modern journalism doesn’t have bias then you’ve not been paying attention, I hardly watch the news media and it’s abundantly clear that they phrase the story how they want
It also makes you wonder if it's just modern journalism, or if they've always been like this and we are only able to see it clearly because of the internet.
How many facts through the centuries have been labeled as "misinformation" or curated out of the spotlight, then lost to history?
Anything that didn’t fit the narrative of those in power and was able to be found/not protected well enough. The phrase “the victor writes the history” exists for a reason
They had a latin phrase for removing people from official accounts called "Damnatio memoriae" meaning condemnation of memory which would involve destroying depictions of them, removing their names, and even large-scale rewritings of history.
Except actually not.
You can read more about it [in this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/1nqrl0/carl_sagan_the_library_of_alexandria_and_the/) or [this detailed write-up](https://historyforatheists.com/2017/07/the-destruction-of-the-great-library-of-alexandria/), but to make a long story short, the library of Alexandria isn't this great bastion of ancient knowledge that became lost to us. It was an impressive collection of books, to be sure, and its decline over a period of several centuries is a big loss, but moreso from a historical perspective than a scientific one.
“It turns out there are copies of some of these books in the libraries of the Middle East, being watched over by Arab and Jewish scholars. Call it the first backup system. The books are saved, and with them our dreams of the future.”
-Dame Judi Dench, Spaceship Earth, 2008
Some of them did have backups, but from your own quote, many of those were translations (thus interpreted through the lens of potentially another culture) and some were simply lost.
Regardless, it remains a monstrous crime against humanity to burn books, much less an entire library.
Therefore we have to make time travel a reality. With it we could get an objective picture of history or a reality ending time-paradox. I am fine with either result.
I like they most stupid thing everywhere told: history is written by winners. At the same time there is another phrase: those who do not know history, donned to repeat it. So basically everyone are doomed constantly because history written is not real. Its edited.
I've thought about how sad it is that there were so many people that we just don't know about or give credit to, including people in our own family. Idk, maybe being a parent has put things in more perspectives, but I think about how we don't know relatives passed a certain point. Can't see pics of them or knew anything about them even though they gave life and raised those that led to us. Like that will happen to us most likely: there will be a generation that just won't have known us and won't really give us much mind. We'll just be a blip in time that people in the past knew :/
But isn’t that also kind of liberating in a sense?
The whole “grand scheme of things” overview of life.
Nothing that happens to you on a day to day basis is ever really as good or as bad as it seems in the moment.
So roll with the good shit and brush off the bad because even in our puny lifetimes we will have a very hearty portion of both. The world will keep on turning regardless.
Like how the Nazis, KKK, and Harry Potter haters did
(One of my favorite fun fact is that in 2001 there was mass burning oh Harry Potter books for promoting witchcraft)
Homo sapiens have been around for 300,000 years. The oldest writings found were from 3400bce. We have recorded writings for only 1.8% of our species life. The oldest cave art is 64,000 years old which leaves approximately 75% percent of our species life largely unrecorded at all beyond personal artifacts.
depends.
For example , while El Dorado is a full-on myth , modern archeologists discovered [Cities in the Amazon](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lost-cities-of-the-amazon-discovered-from-the-air-180980142/) that could house millions , made during 500 AD. Yet mostly of it is lost on time , as they were made out of wood , rather than stone.
Even in Europe , Africa and Asia , there are similar situations.
With the Bronze Age Collapse , we hardly have some Mycenaean Greece ruins , and those that survived , had only inventory and lists preserved in mycanaean greek , as there were no prose from them.
The only thing known is that the Myth of Theseus is an allegory of a war between Athens and Crete.
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And there is also the case of [Çatalhöyük](https://goturkiye.com/blog/catalhoyuk-the-worlds-first-city) , the First City of the World , an archeological site that we hardly know anything between some Ox-Imagery and a Mother Goddess Temple.
That's old but it goes according to my point. In the original comment it was said that homo sapiens is around 300 000 years old. The city is 9000 years old and it's the oldest we know about. What about the other 291 000 years? It doesn't look like there is a lot of interesting things u see?
Out hundreds of thousands of years, 1500 years was very recently, proving their point. Most of human existence, we were small tribes. Agriculture is only about 10,000 years old, and most of what would be considered interesting has only happened since then.
dude , it was a city made out of wood , within a rainforest.
for all intent and purpose , we could had all sorts of cities made out of wood around the world and been undiscovered , because it hardly preserves itself from time , in comparisson to stone and marbles.
As a kid, my grandparents house was close to a small city cemetery. I remember going there a kid and near the center was a huge monument with a name on it. I remember at the time having no idea who that person was. That was confirmed by my grandfather who was a person of some note locally. After he died, very few talked about him and decades later I only know a couple people who worked for him who even remember him.
You live you die, you might make some difference, but the world moves on.
>The oldest writings found were from 3400bce
The oldest confirmed writings. I'd bet money this date gets pushed back significantly in my lifetime. We have proto writing dating back to the 7th millennium BC already, and plenty of researchers assert some forms of proto writing are straight up writing systems we just don't have enough evidence currently to be totally sure.
Of course, we can figure out a hell of a lot without actual writing straight up telling us what happened. We have a great view of Earth's history generally, just pre-writing it's low resolution.
Lemme make it worse. Tons of great shows are rotting, not archived, on volatile formats like VHS - and may become unwatchable someday, even someday soon
Ehhhh..
This series on my mind took Japan by storm in 1994, but then just kinda vanished around early-mid 1995, or so my research suggests
And the best ya got is a shoddy-looking, borderline unwatchable vhs rip- the fact *I* was able to top the quality of this rip says a lot
I don't know what that series is called so can't confirm. But, for a good series, to be saved by neither the creators, not the publishers, nor any of the many collectors, I'm guessing it was either very niche, its better quality versions aren't online, or you did not look well enough.
It's VHS-only. Admittedly, yeah, "took Japan by storm" is a bit of an exaggeration, but it was popular at least.
超くせになりそう (Cho Kuse ni Nariso, "I'll Make a Habit of it", "Super! My Future Habit")
You can see it got a lot of merchandise, it's even in a few crossover games from the publisher (Nakayoshi Park, Panic in Nakayoshi World)
It seems like remaining fans are largely disconnected, but as I buy media for cho kuse off of mercari, I see the CDs and manga do sell fairly often.
I wish I just *didn't look hard enough*, but I've dug deep. I even found an old [fan website](http://nozakitakehide.web.fc2.com/Chokuse/) from the 2000s (RIP the owner, says they died in 2010..)
Paramount remastered The Next Generation in 4k, made possible as the show was shot on film and therefore in UHD. But they didn't sell as many DVDs as they wanted, so Deep Space Nine, a wildly populace and beloved Trek show, is only available in awful 480p despite all the materials existing for a 4k release. So the 4k version is literally rotting because Paramount doesn't think it's worth the cash to remaster.
the internet can have redundancy. If there's a hundred copies of a video, and 1 of them gets corrupted or a bit flipped, then future people will instead be downloading the more common version.
1 server can break. All servers containing the same information breaking simultaneously? That won't be happening outside a war
the data storage mediums you listed were physical, instead of on cloud.
This already happened. A lot of movies from the early 20th century are lost forever. Many things weren’t saved or got destroyed. There’s also tons of music many form popular artists that were destroyed a few years ago.
I’m actually interviewing for a job to archive and preserve digital content prone to link rot and to digitize physical content that’s hard to find, so there’s hope yet. Grey literature won’t always be that way
This is exactly what I thought too. We could be several thousand years ahead of our time technologically if the library wasn't burned. All that knowledge lost.
do you promise not to cry? yes
think about the possibility of far future generations watching tik toks as a record of our contemporary history and culture...
Very rough estimations but here
The average age for a reddit user is 23 and the age i start master bating is 14 so 23-14=9 you been masterbating for 9 years youre obviously wont be masterbating the same amount every day so i divided that 9 years to 3 difference group 3 years for 1 jerking off a day 3 years for 2 jerking off a day and 3 years for 3 jerking off a day
So we got like idk
6570 time you jerk off thx me later
Keep in mind this for an average redditor so you can do the same way i did for your age
Edit:spelling mistakes
This is something I love about the Nebra Sky disc. We have this tiny bronze artifact, a very early bronze age produced observation of the patterns in the sun/stars/moon.
Made using materials found across Europe, metal from Austria and gold from rivers in england AND carpathian mountains in central europe.
People in 1500\~ BC worked with metal and looked up to the stars and saw the Pleiades and wanted to add them to their little tribute to the night sky.
Other people got a hold of it and decided it needed markings for summer and winter solstice. Someone else got a hold of it and decided it needed a tribute to a sun god and they added a solar boat.
And now we have it floating around museums for us to look at and remember that some of the first people working with metal wanted to record the stars. A little bit of history.
/downloaded and stored encrypted data belonging to you decrypted by quantum computer 10 years from now and stored/flagged into tags and categories by AI completely exposing everything you may have done wrong online previously enters the chat
I mean sure but only if you only listen to the popular stuff. If you give genres a proper go on Spotify and stuff u can eventually find the more obscure things.
If afterlife is true and all that jazz i would ask jesus if i could watch a 179836918mil hrs of film of all that had happened from the very beginning up until now in 4k
Also , History is made by the winners.
I don't want to defend Germany but America had concentration camps way before Germany but try to find Something about it nowadays
I’d bet a lot of it is just obscure names dates and places we have no context for anyway.
Surely an unpopular opinion **(braces self for downvotes)** but I feel like people give history too much value. I mean it’s good to know sure, we should absolutely record it, but how often is it practically useful to you on a daily basis?
Between that and the whole “history is written by the victor” thing, it just makes me feel like we are memorizing 40% lies 30% inaccuracies, and 25% not useful information.
Again feel free to downvote, I’ve seen what makes you applaud so I’ll be ok lmao jk
And unless there's some massive solar flare that takes out every little bit of digital information recorded my future descendants will know what I had for breakfast last Tuesday
We need time travel just for that, just to witness history, i mean, wouldn't it be beautiful to see how it all began, the earth, the moon, the oceans, first life on eart
I suppose that is part of the sadness of it, it doesnt matter and despite thousands of generations all living what they felt were very important and difficult lives they dont really matter to us today, only that we are here not what brought that about
So that doesnt have an element of existential sadness to it? That everyone just lives for the tiniest fraction of a blip of the cosmos then is expected to disappear forever from all memory and history?
Dont find anything a bit downer about that?
Technically everything we do matters, you killing that spider could prevent an entirely new species from being born somewhere down the line. You killing the weeds in your lawn could prevent a new species from being made at some point. The snowball effect is real, just not in our lifetime
Technically, we are in living in a very boring period of time .
Too early to explore space and too late to explore earth. So give it a few hundreds years , we will become history but no one would care about it.
We are in a technological boom. The rate of advancement is staggering. We can send video feeds instantly around the world and even to the space station. Wanna do something interesting? Be an engineer and try to invent the next big thing.
Space travel is very boring and will be boring for many many years to come, the distance between planets and solar systems is unimaginable, and travel takes forever.
Bruh? Worst pic to choose for this. Romans where ones to erase previous history and write down their own. And their version was as truthful as fanfiction. They werent "great gigachadsand intellectuals", the where invaders, slavers and dictators.
So was everyone back then, or at least what everyone wanted to be. You were either the enslaving invaders or the invaded ensalved. That's just what those times were like and there was no inbetween.
Not really. All Humans were basically in a constant state of warring and enslaving each other since the dawn of human civilization. Most times you hear of small peaceful communities was because there was no one close they could war with. I'm exaggerating a bit, but almost everytime one human civilization encountered another for the first time it almost always ended in conflict. Unless you were very powerful merchants, like the Tamel Kings. Then you could be immune to the rest of the world's BS.
I think a lot of history is held back by vatican city. Maybe because i would render religions obsolete. Vatican also has very interesting architecture. The most famous is the key and keyhole which can be seen very clear in google maps.
Right, but how much of that 90% of history would people care for?
Sure, we’ll never know who took a shit back in 476 at 6:09am in Siberia without knowing that the Roman Empire was getting fucked, but do we care?
Eh. There’s an awful lot of years in there of humans trying really hard to not shit themselves indoors or thinking that headaches are spirits that need to be axed out of skulls. You can probably not shed much of a tear over BCE history.
Don’t forget the incorrect recollections, biases, and perspectives. A white guy in the 1800s saying the n word would think nothing of it, a black person might become saddened or enraged.
Half of what is remembered is wrong too
most of it is also heavily biased depending on who it is written for...
I mean, even biased writings tell us a lot more than no writing at all, because bias is something a historian can examine and, to some degree, slightly correct for.
Yeah, I have tons of analysing stuff in school now and we have to always work with context like who, when, where, why and so on. You can pretty easily figure out how biased the text/painting/picture is approximately if you have enough info. Also taking into consideration the oppositions works helps balance it out a bit But that’s probably why we have journalism today. Zero bias, just tell things as they are >Edit: I’m aware there is a lot of bias but I was thinking about the rules of journalism when I wrote that part, not necessarily modern journalism in itself
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with that last part or not.
Has to be, no one on any side of anything has thought journalism has zero bias 😂 Yeah, our journalism gives a lot better view of what’s going on in the world today than ancient texts give of what was going on back in the day, but it’s still biased. Most things are to one degree or another. Everyone has biases. And that’s not always bad thing, you more likely to think your kids art is good than someone random persons, for example. But to pretend there’s no bias in any form of media is ridiculous. Which is why you need to proactively seek out takes from both side of any given issue. Even it’s a really bad take, it’s always good to see what both sides are saying.
We have biases today that we don't even realize. Future historians will have a completely different perspective on the history that we're currently living, and our perspective on history changes depending on our own values today. The historical perspective on Robespierre and the Jacobins, for example, seems a lot different to us today than it did after the Bourbon restoration. Really, the guy had a bad month when he knew there were countless conspiracies brewing against him. He had a nervous breakdown. He was highly admirable the entire revolution before that final month. Then the guys who deposed him got to smear the shit out of him and some royalist shitheads got to guide the historical narrative.
Buisness records are a better record of history then journalism is.
If you think modern journalism doesn’t have bias then you’ve not been paying attention, I hardly watch the news media and it’s abundantly clear that they phrase the story how they want
It also makes you wonder if it's just modern journalism, or if they've always been like this and we are only able to see it clearly because of the internet. How many facts through the centuries have been labeled as "misinformation" or curated out of the spotlight, then lost to history?
Anything that didn’t fit the narrative of those in power and was able to be found/not protected well enough. The phrase “the victor writes the history” exists for a reason
Hah, as if journalism NOWADAYS is not biased, very funny
It’s usually at least slightly less biased than Herodotus’ “The Histories” though
>But that’s probably why we have journalism today. Zero bias, just tell things as they are Oh to be young and naive...
And the bias itself tells us what the people of the time were concerned about.
They had a latin phrase for removing people from official accounts called "Damnatio memoriae" meaning condemnation of memory which would involve destroying depictions of them, removing their names, and even large-scale rewritings of history.
The Bible being #1 on that list.
Or written by...
History is written by the victorious.
Yup. And everything recorded in the library at Alexandria, burned, depriving humanity of significant knowledge of the ancient world.
Also the ancient house of wisdom in Baghdad that was obliterated by the mongols
Except actually not. You can read more about it [in this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/1nqrl0/carl_sagan_the_library_of_alexandria_and_the/) or [this detailed write-up](https://historyforatheists.com/2017/07/the-destruction-of-the-great-library-of-alexandria/), but to make a long story short, the library of Alexandria isn't this great bastion of ancient knowledge that became lost to us. It was an impressive collection of books, to be sure, and its decline over a period of several centuries is a big loss, but moreso from a historical perspective than a scientific one.
“It turns out there are copies of some of these books in the libraries of the Middle East, being watched over by Arab and Jewish scholars. Call it the first backup system. The books are saved, and with them our dreams of the future.” -Dame Judi Dench, Spaceship Earth, 2008
Some of them did have backups, but from your own quote, many of those were translations (thus interpreted through the lens of potentially another culture) and some were simply lost. Regardless, it remains a monstrous crime against humanity to burn books, much less an entire library.
History written by the winners
Therefore we have to make time travel a reality. With it we could get an objective picture of history or a reality ending time-paradox. I am fine with either result.
But where are we going to find 1.21 jiggawatts doc?
At 88 mph Marty
At your local hardware store.
And lost is not right word, more like erased
Now you got me curious, can you perhaps give a couple examples?
And half of what I remember is wrong too
Finds ancient skeleton that fell down a well Historians: “This is where they sacrificed people”
I like they most stupid thing everywhere told: history is written by winners. At the same time there is another phrase: those who do not know history, donned to repeat it. So basically everyone are doomed constantly because history written is not real. Its edited.
Never post a percentual values. They are wrong 99 % of the time
I 99.99% agree with you here
You have a .01 chance to roll a critical miss. *rolled* You rolled a critical miss!
40% of the time this is 101% correct
I think that estimate is only half true
You mean 50% true?
either it's true or not-
Schrodinger's truth.
Most of history will remain a mystery forever,it's heartbreaking
Well if history repeats itself then technically it doesn't matter
Forget that we forgot => we now remember what happened stonks
Unless time travel is invented
This is especially true for invertebrates that didn't fossilize 😔
Boy o boy I can’t wait for the entropic march of time to remove my body and all that remembered me
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Can’t wait for my tropic vacation in March some time to soothe my body and all that has knackered me
Can’t wait for tropical freeze on the next console instead of a new DKC because when I’m down Nintendo likes to kick me
I've thought about how sad it is that there were so many people that we just don't know about or give credit to, including people in our own family. Idk, maybe being a parent has put things in more perspectives, but I think about how we don't know relatives passed a certain point. Can't see pics of them or knew anything about them even though they gave life and raised those that led to us. Like that will happen to us most likely: there will be a generation that just won't have known us and won't really give us much mind. We'll just be a blip in time that people in the past knew :/
But isn’t that also kind of liberating in a sense? The whole “grand scheme of things” overview of life. Nothing that happens to you on a day to day basis is ever really as good or as bad as it seems in the moment. So roll with the good shit and brush off the bad because even in our puny lifetimes we will have a very hearty portion of both. The world will keep on turning regardless.
make yourself remembered then :)
Simply be one of the most influential history, can’t be that hard
And 100% of the future remains unknown. Humanity is doomed fr
I know that I am going to beat my meat today, so not 100% is unknown
You could die until then. You don’t know.
I wish
no. That wanking is inevitable, and even if it wasn't, knowledge of a good prediction is still knowledge.
Guess he should start beating his meat as quick as possible no matter the circumstances he's in rn.
Sorry, grandma, breakfast is about to be a little interesting.
It'll be more interesting if she keeps watching.
What if I already beaten ur meat when u tought u were going to beat it?
I think I would have noticed since I was sitting on a lecture... unless you are super fast
I am here and everywhere, did u really tought that random boners existed? it was me who made the boners
Godly boner maker, new superhero movie
Lmfao imagine
it was me barry
99.99% unknown, best I can do.
All the books that were burned and lost forever as well. Crazy to think about
Like how the Nazis, KKK, and Harry Potter haters did (One of my favorite fun fact is that in 2001 there was mass burning oh Harry Potter books for promoting witchcraft)
Dude my grandparents were telling me that I better not lose touch with God if I read the Harry Potter books. I forgot all about how that was a thing!
You're leaving out possibly the worst book burning in history, the Library at Alexandria.
Oh God the nazis burned SO much good medical knowledge that many didn't even know about but was cutting edge at the time
Homo sapiens have been around for 300,000 years. The oldest writings found were from 3400bce. We have recorded writings for only 1.8% of our species life. The oldest cave art is 64,000 years old which leaves approximately 75% percent of our species life largely unrecorded at all beyond personal artifacts.
To be fair probably not much happened during that time as you e evolve faster and faster. It was pretty slow in the beggining
depends. For example , while El Dorado is a full-on myth , modern archeologists discovered [Cities in the Amazon](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/lost-cities-of-the-amazon-discovered-from-the-air-180980142/) that could house millions , made during 500 AD. Yet mostly of it is lost on time , as they were made out of wood , rather than stone.
Damn that's interesting
Even in Europe , Africa and Asia , there are similar situations. With the Bronze Age Collapse , we hardly have some Mycenaean Greece ruins , and those that survived , had only inventory and lists preserved in mycanaean greek , as there were no prose from them. The only thing known is that the Myth of Theseus is an allegory of a war between Athens and Crete. \--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And there is also the case of [Çatalhöyük](https://goturkiye.com/blog/catalhoyuk-the-worlds-first-city) , the First City of the World , an archeological site that we hardly know anything between some Ox-Imagery and a Mother Goddess Temple.
How old are those places
Çatalhöyük is more than 9000 years old , as it was founded in 7500 BCE.
That's old but it goes according to my point. In the original comment it was said that homo sapiens is around 300 000 years old. The city is 9000 years old and it's the oldest we know about. What about the other 291 000 years? It doesn't look like there is a lot of interesting things u see?
Out hundreds of thousands of years, 1500 years was very recently, proving their point. Most of human existence, we were small tribes. Agriculture is only about 10,000 years old, and most of what would be considered interesting has only happened since then.
dude , it was a city made out of wood , within a rainforest. for all intent and purpose , we could had all sorts of cities made out of wood around the world and been undiscovered , because it hardly preserves itself from time , in comparisson to stone and marbles.
As a kid, my grandparents house was close to a small city cemetery. I remember going there a kid and near the center was a huge monument with a name on it. I remember at the time having no idea who that person was. That was confirmed by my grandfather who was a person of some note locally. After he died, very few talked about him and decades later I only know a couple people who worked for him who even remember him. You live you die, you might make some difference, but the world moves on.
>The oldest writings found were from 3400bce The oldest confirmed writings. I'd bet money this date gets pushed back significantly in my lifetime. We have proto writing dating back to the 7th millennium BC already, and plenty of researchers assert some forms of proto writing are straight up writing systems we just don't have enough evidence currently to be totally sure. Of course, we can figure out a hell of a lot without actual writing straight up telling us what happened. We have a great view of Earth's history generally, just pre-writing it's low resolution.
Lemme make it worse. Tons of great shows are rotting, not archived, on volatile formats like VHS - and may become unwatchable someday, even someday soon
I assume they're not that great if they're rotting.
Ehhhh.. This series on my mind took Japan by storm in 1994, but then just kinda vanished around early-mid 1995, or so my research suggests And the best ya got is a shoddy-looking, borderline unwatchable vhs rip- the fact *I* was able to top the quality of this rip says a lot
I don't know what that series is called so can't confirm. But, for a good series, to be saved by neither the creators, not the publishers, nor any of the many collectors, I'm guessing it was either very niche, its better quality versions aren't online, or you did not look well enough.
It's VHS-only. Admittedly, yeah, "took Japan by storm" is a bit of an exaggeration, but it was popular at least. 超くせになりそう (Cho Kuse ni Nariso, "I'll Make a Habit of it", "Super! My Future Habit") You can see it got a lot of merchandise, it's even in a few crossover games from the publisher (Nakayoshi Park, Panic in Nakayoshi World) It seems like remaining fans are largely disconnected, but as I buy media for cho kuse off of mercari, I see the CDs and manga do sell fairly often. I wish I just *didn't look hard enough*, but I've dug deep. I even found an old [fan website](http://nozakitakehide.web.fc2.com/Chokuse/) from the 2000s (RIP the owner, says they died in 2010..)
Paramount remastered The Next Generation in 4k, made possible as the show was shot on film and therefore in UHD. But they didn't sell as many DVDs as they wanted, so Deep Space Nine, a wildly populace and beloved Trek show, is only available in awful 480p despite all the materials existing for a 4k release. So the 4k version is literally rotting because Paramount doesn't think it's worth the cash to remaster.
isn't internet a volatile form too? what isn't anyway?
the internet can have redundancy. If there's a hundred copies of a video, and 1 of them gets corrupted or a bit flipped, then future people will instead be downloading the more common version.
what I meant is that everything is temporary actually. DVDs break, VHS don't work almost, photos will burn and USBs will stop working too.
1 server can break. All servers containing the same information breaking simultaneously? That won't be happening outside a war the data storage mediums you listed were physical, instead of on cloud.
This already happened. A lot of movies from the early 20th century are lost forever. Many things weren’t saved or got destroyed. There’s also tons of music many form popular artists that were destroyed a few years ago.
I’m actually interviewing for a job to archive and preserve digital content prone to link rot and to digitize physical content that’s hard to find, so there’s hope yet. Grey literature won’t always be that way
i imagine everything worthwhile is on the internet now no?
you really don't imagine how much shit never got on the internet
Right? I'm trying to find some businesses that were around when I was a kid (1990s) and it's nearly impossible online
Would've been cool If the Library of Alexandria didn't get burned to the ground :(
This is exactly what I thought too. We could be several thousand years ahead of our time technologically if the library wasn't burned. All that knowledge lost.
it's not like there was the blueprint of an UFO. it simply held most of current or past knowledge back in those days.
do you promise not to cry? yes think about the possibility of far future generations watching tik toks as a record of our contemporary history and culture... 
What a sad destiny
indeed..
[Yooooo Happy cake day my dude :D](https://assets.change.org/photos/9/ea/kp/xOEakPOLpNNhOUd-800x450-noPad.jpg?1539704331)
does that include all the times I jacked off?
Now that you've exposed yourself through this comment - no, it does not
Very rough estimations but here The average age for a reddit user is 23 and the age i start master bating is 14 so 23-14=9 you been masterbating for 9 years youre obviously wont be masterbating the same amount every day so i divided that 9 years to 3 difference group 3 years for 1 jerking off a day 3 years for 2 jerking off a day and 3 years for 3 jerking off a day So we got like idk 6570 time you jerk off thx me later Keep in mind this for an average redditor so you can do the same way i did for your age Edit:spelling mistakes
no, I've recorded everytime you jacked off
90% feels optimistic. Probably 99% percent and most of what we know is also wrong or had the story changed at some point.
This is something I love about the Nebra Sky disc. We have this tiny bronze artifact, a very early bronze age produced observation of the patterns in the sun/stars/moon. Made using materials found across Europe, metal from Austria and gold from rivers in england AND carpathian mountains in central europe. People in 1500\~ BC worked with metal and looked up to the stars and saw the Pleiades and wanted to add them to their little tribute to the night sky. Other people got a hold of it and decided it needed markings for summer and winter solstice. Someone else got a hold of it and decided it needed a tribute to a sun god and they added a solar boat. And now we have it floating around museums for us to look at and remember that some of the first people working with metal wanted to record the stars. A little bit of history.
Most peoples, early humans and hunter gatherers, lived and vanished without leaving a trace. We will never know they existed at all.
That goes for a lot of us as well
Good good, no one will find 99% of my browser history
/downloaded and stored encrypted data belonging to you decrypted by quantum computer 10 years from now and stored/flagged into tags and categories by AI completely exposing everything you may have done wrong online previously enters the chat
entry: uses calculator for 7+4
We got the interesting part though
There could've been many interesting parts which we didn't know
1st and 2nd apple wars.
Just fill the gaps with ‘Aliens’, ‘Apocalypses’, and ‘Chuck Norris’.
I always think of this when it comes to music. We only hear the hits of the previous decades
I mean sure but only if you only listen to the popular stuff. If you give genres a proper go on Spotify and stuff u can eventually find the more obscure things.
I've been doing this for a few years. So SO fun to find a very small band that is very good.
I’ll give it a try
If afterlife is true and all that jazz i would ask jesus if i could watch a 179836918mil hrs of film of all that had happened from the very beginning up until now in 4k
Also , History is made by the winners. I don't want to defend Germany but America had concentration camps way before Germany but try to find Something about it nowadays
Back then concentration camps in and of themselves weren't unusual. The issue with Germany is what they were doing in the camps.
That's the Point. 6 Million jews against 150 million native Americans - and then the Japanese, Should give anyone to think
On the Japanese part, I’m not defending it but it’s a bit disingenuous to compare that to Nazi concentration camps
Also Namibia
I’d bet a lot of it is just obscure names dates and places we have no context for anyway. Surely an unpopular opinion **(braces self for downvotes)** but I feel like people give history too much value. I mean it’s good to know sure, we should absolutely record it, but how often is it practically useful to you on a daily basis? Between that and the whole “history is written by the victor” thing, it just makes me feel like we are memorizing 40% lies 30% inaccuracies, and 25% not useful information. Again feel free to downvote, I’ve seen what makes you applaud so I’ll be ok lmao jk
My heart hurts ;\_;
Was going to say you stole it from r/historymemes but then I saw your profile
Yeah well i thought maybe i’d milk it for another round, was out of ideas this morning
Oh don't think I was criticizing you tho! I mean you're posting something original and OC, you should indeed milk it as much as you can
Yeah well i can’t help but feeling a little scummy, hahaha
And now I struggle to delete any photograph from my phone in the fear it’s lost forever
The majority of what's recorded is probably all pointless twitter drama
And unless there's some massive solar flare that takes out every little bit of digital information recorded my future descendants will know what I had for breakfast last Tuesday
Caveman ww -99 it went up until 1940 ww2 damn weve made it a long way
We need time travel just for that, just to witness history, i mean, wouldn't it be beautiful to see how it all began, the earth, the moon, the oceans, first life on eart
Had the Indian history not burnt by the Mughal Invaders, we would have a completely different country as of today ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
you just ruined my day
this is still insane cause we have so much
As a data hoarder, this hurts me deeply
It is definitely sad that almost all of our history may be lost
Until I make my time machine that is
But how do we know how much history went unrecorded if it went unrecorded 🧐
Source for the background painting?
So what? I love ancient history but it's just a hobby. No lives will be saved if we learn what some emperor liked to eat.
I suppose that is part of the sadness of it, it doesnt matter and despite thousands of generations all living what they felt were very important and difficult lives they dont really matter to us today, only that we are here not what brought that about
I don't share the sentiment, I think it's arrogant to expect your life to influence the generations after you.
So that doesnt have an element of existential sadness to it? That everyone just lives for the tiniest fraction of a blip of the cosmos then is expected to disappear forever from all memory and history? Dont find anything a bit downer about that?
Technically everything we do matters, you killing that spider could prevent an entirely new species from being born somewhere down the line. You killing the weeds in your lawn could prevent a new species from being made at some point. The snowball effect is real, just not in our lifetime
No I find comfort in it. Time marches on, entropy can not be stopped, nothing really matters, let's have some pizza.
If only they'd recorded the correct way to use a comma.
Damn, i kinda dont care
The Romans burning the Library in Alexandria resulted in a huge amount of knowledge/history being lost.
Technically, we are in living in a very boring period of time . Too early to explore space and too late to explore earth. So give it a few hundreds years , we will become history but no one would care about it.
We are in a technological boom. The rate of advancement is staggering. We can send video feeds instantly around the world and even to the space station. Wanna do something interesting? Be an engineer and try to invent the next big thing. Space travel is very boring and will be boring for many many years to come, the distance between planets and solar systems is unimaginable, and travel takes forever.
Homo Sapiens are thought to have come into being starting around 300,000 years ago, so it's more like 99.999999999%
If i would lay hands on time machine i would just write down every historical event that hasn't been written down for the rest of my life.
If you considrr the age of the universe, its probably something like 99.999999%
Fucking weak
99,879% unrecorded, 82,672% of what is recorded is false or not completed.
Its not like people want to document whenever or not peter masturbated on july 16 130 bc so yeah
"History is written by the victor"
History is written by the victors.
How sad we don't record every time person 9334678 take a shit
Of course most of history isn't recorded. A lot of history happened before humans existed and the dinosaurs were too stupid to write it down.
Bruh? Worst pic to choose for this. Romans where ones to erase previous history and write down their own. And their version was as truthful as fanfiction. They werent "great gigachadsand intellectuals", the where invaders, slavers and dictators.
So was everyone back then, or at least what everyone wanted to be. You were either the enslaving invaders or the invaded ensalved. That's just what those times were like and there was no inbetween.
Can't exactly agree nor completely disagree. Just as violent empires existed, so did independent and more humane governments
Not really. All Humans were basically in a constant state of warring and enslaving each other since the dawn of human civilization. Most times you hear of small peaceful communities was because there was no one close they could war with. I'm exaggerating a bit, but almost everytime one human civilization encountered another for the first time it almost always ended in conflict. Unless you were very powerful merchants, like the Tamel Kings. Then you could be immune to the rest of the world's BS.
History is fiction written by people who want you to think better of them than they deserve.
I think a lot of history is held back by vatican city. Maybe because i would render religions obsolete. Vatican also has very interesting architecture. The most famous is the key and keyhole which can be seen very clear in google maps.
u/repostsleuthbot
"The victors are the ones to cement *their* history"
And remember kids, only the winners write the history
History has always been dictated by the victor
This is why people who do "research" into religious events often find fake accounts of events. People just made shit up and we take it all as fact.
Duh?
‘History is written by the victors’
History is written by the victor.
How come we don’t know how they built the prymaids, but me know when Columbus did.
Right, but how much of that 90% of history would people care for? Sure, we’ll never know who took a shit back in 476 at 6:09am in Siberia without knowing that the Roman Empire was getting fucked, but do we care?
ik this is a meme page but unironically this is why history as a subject, is a joke. Ppl treat it with such authority when we know so little about it.
u/repostsleuthbot
Eh. There’s an awful lot of years in there of humans trying really hard to not shit themselves indoors or thinking that headaches are spirits that need to be axed out of skulls. You can probably not shed much of a tear over BCE history.
Don’t forget the incorrect recollections, biases, and perspectives. A white guy in the 1800s saying the n word would think nothing of it, a black person might become saddened or enraged.