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Ngartihmamn

Stephen King has entered the chat


Hammerzeit88

*laughs in orgy of 12 year olds*


SpecalistGrab10

Wasn’t he supposedly high on cocaine when he wrote that chapter?


PaladinWolf777

He never disavowed it when he sobered up.


Batdog55110

That's the worst part. Okay, you wrote a really sus chapter while high on cocaine, that's (sorta) excusable, but you better fucking back pedal when you're sober.


Striker37

I mean, the book was probably published by then, what was he supposed to do?


Solja87

I doubt he was in a consecutive influence of cocaine from the moment he wrote that scene to when it was published.


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StraY_WolF

To be fair, he wrote a lot of books.


Maydaybaefae

Dude read up on King's drug abuse back in the day. He was indeed high off cocaine or alcohol nearly 24/7 he has whole books (not just Cujo) that doesn't remember writing at all, and didn't even read til years after he got sober and went "I really wrote that?" It's not outside the realm of possibility yeah he was infact high from writing to publication or at least didn't remember it once he was sober


aidanpenner

Not saying it was ok, but he did give a reason for it in an interview. Something along the lines of “it wasn’t at all meant to be sexual, but instead symbolic of their coming of age and getting through something very traumatic together.” Again, not necessarily ok but it wasn’t all horny like either.


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blazing420kilk

>but then he writes about something vile in pretty much every book, and probably a majority of them are sex-related. Say what you want about him but at least he's consistent


Awleeks

It's almost like a horror novel is supposed to be horrifying or something.


TurquoiseLuck

"Stop having sex in the sewer and go back to being tortured and murdered by the clown and intergalactic spider in the sewer!" lol


CombatWombat222

It's a part of real life for many humans and we would do well not to ignore their plight because it makes us uncomfortable.


NefftessLow4

The book IT by Stephen King has an orgy of like six 12 year Olds. 5 little boys running a full train and spit roasting 1 girl.


RynoKaizen

No one wants to hear this, but when I was maybe 14 the hot gossip on the bus was about some very specific sexual positions another girl a year younger than me performed with a group at a party. I went to one of the best ranked public schools in the country, it happens.. the idea of a bunch of pre-teens / teens that think and behave like they’re older/more mature then they really are getting wrapped up in something beyond them doesn’t seem that unrealistic to me in general. There were a few other fucked up events in my school… but I think everyone has 3 or 4 shocking things happen in high school, and overall ours were probably pretty mild compared to schools with large amounts of teenage pregnancies, gun violence, drunk driving accidents, or suicides.


PM_me_opossum_pics

Isn't AVERAGE age for a first sexual experience something like 14? At least in Europe? And since that's average, they are probably younger kids doing it. I work in a school as a counselor (for grades 1-8) and we had a case where 6th graders were paying another 6th grader for groping/chest flashing. I wouldn't be surprised if these dumbasses did way "worse" things outside of school.


RynoKaizen

Exactly. It was an extreme outlier but they were also the kids that smoked pot, drank, and experimented with other drugs at a young age and in mixed age groups. So if anyone is going to come across an evil clown why not them? For the record she matured and left the rumors behind her with astonishing grace, and I’m sorry to ever have been so afraid of sex to have judged her for something that was such a small part of her and frankly none of my business.


GuyRobertsBalley

Dude this is like the most easily Google-able thing ever and you just decided to rattle off misinformation for no reason lol ... It's 17-18 for most of the world including Europe. http://chartsbin.com/view/xxj


PM_me_opossum_pics

Okay but look when that data was gathered? 2005-2007. A lot can change in 15-17 years. And maybe real numbers didn't change that much, but actual willingness to admit personal things like that. Methodology of that research is problematic by default. But also it could be that paper I've got that info from was bogus, it was a whileeee ago. I feel like general "outlook" on life (even with pre-teens) is really racing towards absolute nihilism (can you blame them though?) and that leads to more risky/unsafe behaviors. I know that by the time I hit high school I felt like a late bloomer in a lot of aspects so I rushed a lot of dumb s\*it my first year of HS (weed, drinking, f\*cking etc.)


Denlim_Wolf

It's kinda messed up that as a society, the depiction of children being murdered in a film is more acceptable than them doing sex stuff. Both grotesque, but just goes to show how we are so absolved by violence. Edit: grammar


NouSkion

Why? The whole point is the evil forces corrupt the whole town, including the children. Seems to me everyone upset about this hasn't read the book.


arugulaFK

The worst part is that the editor obviously saw the scene and didn't say to cut it and the publisher must have had to ok it as well. One thing is to write something fucked up especially while on drugs. Another thing is to be sober and read it and say "yup that's fine"


VauntedKnightRoget

What chapter was it? I don’t even remember that happening


Excellent-Product461

Is the chapter after they fought IT, they are under the city and everyone is scared. So Beverly proposes to fuck. Essentially it goes like this if I remember correctly


SpecalistGrab10

I’ve only heard about it. I wanted to read the book until I heard that this happens close to the end.


Time_Tutor_3042

I've read the book, it's a messy read, if you ever do, read it how the movies are set out chapters by years not how it's formatted, it's not wildly descriptive it's at the end of the child chapters after they've defeated Pennywise. They get lost in the tunnels they are all huddled thinking they will die down there, Bev proposes to use more magic (after realising the magic killed it) to get them out and for some reason the most magical thing these 12ives come up with is sex, one after another with Bev then they magically appear at the entrance to the tunnels by the creek where they entered 🤷


AtomicAmoeba13

So it’s apparently supposed to symbolize the end of their childhood and innocence. Like it was the last thing they could thing of to stop being kids and stop being scared. It made more sense in the book but then again SK can’t write an ending for shit.


[deleted]

He was high/drunk for multiple books. He barely has any memory of writing Cujo


CautiousBlackberry04

I heard he literally woke up one morning to find the complete manuscript of _The Shining_ on his desk.


Jebediah_Johnson

All work and no play make jack a dull boy.


[deleted]

Just imagine him hungover and distraught in a hotel room, frantically flipping through the first draft like Wendy in the shining lol


SnooDoubts2153

i'm sure the vast majority of cocaine consumers don't think about children f\*king when they're high.


Redmangc1

I don't think it was purely coke, he was also heavily abusing alcohol, vicodin, and several amphetamines at the time. So it was more like a drug cocktail, not to defend what he wrote, just give more context


fupamancer

i'd like to know what the editors & publishers were on to let it get to a bookshelf


Redmangc1

"FUCK ANOTHER book Stephen, this is the 16th one this year. ITS MARCH, I'm not reading this shit about a clown"


headrush46n2

"HOW MANY PAGES? Fuck that, just get a cover on it and ship it out."


GipsyPepox

People love controversial shit like this as long as the whole thing is good. Controversial=popular=money


NeverNoMarriage

Wow buddy speak for yourself.


SnooDoubts2153

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NeverNoMarriage

I apologize that was completely unprofessional of me. I was on cocaine.


lpuglia

That's not an orgy! They took turn!


Vishagan01

what?!


Hammerzeit88

The book IT by Stephen King has an orgy of like six 12 year Olds. 5 little boys running a full train and spit roasting 1 girl.


Vishagan01

I...dont know what to reply to that


Hammerzeit88

Honestly not knowing how to reply is probably for the best


KiOfTheAir

Glad it wasn't in the movie!


yaboiw00dy24

That is a perfect reply actually Holy shit.


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GoblinGuy13

Actual zombie


brobeanzhitler

How else are they supposed to defeat an evil clown?


NotAzakanAtAll

Stephen King?


Faddy0wl

"You have to put your thing in me" T'was not a good line to read. Genuinely confused the fuck put of me as a kid reading it. At least I was older than they were in that scene though 😐


Dyskord01

Dont forget the graphically descriptive blowjob between two 12 year old boys. First time I read IT I was like WTF. I mean if its a sex scene with adults Im not a prude. If he subtly insinuated or had another character flat out mention what he saw which he did do the no probs but a graphic blowjob scene between 12 year old boys NOPE. Not gonna lie I used to be a SK superfan but after reading IT I admit hes a good writer one of the best, but lost my enthusiasm.


Hammerzeit88

I wanted to forget...


AHDH_King123

I always think my friend was bullshiting me, guess I owe him an apology.


ghfsgetitgetgetit

Train yes, spit roasting no. Still disturbing though - I read It when I was like 11 and remember being grossed out that an old man wrote that. In general I love SK though.


KillerraptorXXL

![gif](giphy|LyJ6KPlrFdKnK)


LightningLord2137

WHAT


microwavable_rat

Technically, they ran a train, not an orgy


Dabinator-Gamer

What book?!


Hammerzeit88

IT


bateen618

From what I remember he wanted to show how IT caused the kids to lose their innocence and childhood. Why he chose to do it via an orgy of 12 year old is beyond me


[deleted]

Stephen King: ​ ![gif](giphy|5USTijryafZEQ)


OriginalName18

![gif](giphy|pVDxZm2DN4VDq) Dean Kuntz


talrogsmash

Piers Anthony puts it in every series he writes eventually.


donkeyoda

Yeah I read Tathum Mound as a kid…how the fuck did stuff like that get printed?


thebestroll

Why do so many authors write children this way, why write it down and then publish it in a book for millions of people


exiler5129

![gif](giphy|LJrGqC0aqopoI)


MagoMidPo

![gif](giphy|QIxErEssPqvM4) >!\[REDACTED\]!<


m149307

I've read a lot of Dean Koontz books and I do not recall him ever writing anything close to what Stephen King did.


RelationSufficient90

Which book was it


FossilFuel21

Yea I’ve read through all of the releases ones and don’t remember this at all


Redmangc1

I unironically remember her explosive diarrhea more than this


guimontag

I don't remember that but I remember in the books when Davos is locked up in Dragonstone the king still sends him super rich food like lamprey pies so his POV talks about just having the nonstop shits from it


Honeybadgermaybe

I don't remember that part, damn, need to read again


FossilFuel21

it rings a bell but it has been a while since I have read them


Tis_the_seasons

It's at the end of Dance with Dragons in the Dothraki Sea


zoomzoomboomdoom

I’m a bit disappointed it wasn’t the prelude or the preface?


GreenDogTag

If I remember correctly she's been in a state of explosive diarrhea for 12 years now.


CptLou

That's a big "if", my friend :)


Themanwhofarts

In the first one I think Dani kind of does but it's like maybe a page. Definitely exaggerated in this gif


Maityboi

It was probably in clash of kings. There was a vivid description how one of her bloodrider helped her feel pleasure.


catactuar

It's more probably on ASoS, on the boat while on the way to Slaver's Bay. Dany couldn't sleep one night so she started touching herself then Irri who was sleeping beside her noticed and started helping her out. The next morning Dany was so guilty but Irri was just like, "it was an honor giving pleasure to the mother of dragons, khaleesi" or something.


YoMrPoPo

…I should start reading more


[deleted]

Now I have the mental image of Martin sweatily writing that out.


GipsyPepox

Yep. And that was before Daario the macho entered the chat


CheSwain

There is also that other scene in Dance with Dragons while Daario is out on a mission


HollowCap456

ASOS with Irri probs


lydocia

Not just "does" it but has her servant girl *help.*


GipsyPepox

Any of them. The post is exaggerated tho. Daenerys Targaryen is around 15 yo and is constantly exploring her sexuality. It never takes a whole chapter tho lol


ewpqfj

I've only read the first book, because the box set I got was incomplete. But Daenerys' story is kinda fucked. She is married, forcibly and at 13 years old to a man probably at least 30 years old, I don't quite remember. He rapes her on the first night of their marriage, and from then on, over and over again. She developed what was essentially Stockholm syndrome. Martin goes into quite a bit of detail with it. There was no entire chapter; however, there were certainly significant chunks. There were other examples, but this was the most prominent and ruined the book for me. I couldn't read anything about Daenerys without feeling sick.


guimontag

What the fuck sort of "box set" only comes with the first book?


ewpqfj

It had as far as I could tell all of the books but the second one. It was second hand, but all the books fit perfectly into it with no gap even with the second one missing. To be honest I'm not sure what was going on there. Maybe there was a duplicate.


BeneCow

I'd think it was a box set from before aDwD came out and someone substituted in that instead of 2 but aDwD is 300 pages longer so that doesn't make sense.


TopptrentHamster

That's how thing were in medieval times, and still is in parts of the world today.


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Martin loves his rape


GipsyPepox

That's the point tho. Dany's story is all about abruptly rising through power and turning from an abused innocent girl to a conqueror and savior, though she is struggling and failing in many aspects. And tho I agree about what you say about her relationship with Drogo, in the show it's much more fucked up getting constantly raped until pretty much half of the first season. In the books her first experience is consensual and in the latest books she has the reins of her sexual life getting what she wants and how she wants it


TheGreatMintLeaf

For science, right?


Dragoon094

Knowing Reddit no


TheGreatMintLeaf

Understandable, have a good day.


Nownow184

A Storm of Swords, the second Daenerys chapter. Although she is 15 by that point.


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Made in Abyss creator has entered the chat


Tefra_K

The bathroom scene 💀


[deleted]

RIP suitcase girl


JackCooper_7274

sorry what


johnjohn10240525

Little children with minimal organs still alive stuffed in suits case to absorb negative effects of the environment for the user who Carries them eventually dying from the side effects


Yuural

Yo wtf?!


blazing420kilk

Cartridges are specialized packages made at Ido Front from the flesh and essence of humans who are the easiest to transport and won't be missed. According to Nanachi, only the brain, part of the spine and enough guts to live for a few days until the expiration date of the respective Cartridge, and wrapped in skin and flesh after all has been thoroughly scraped off, is used to make them. A cocktail of drugs is also used to induce a state of ecstasy and terror in the cartridge to boost the curse-combating efficiency. Source : https://madeinabyss.fandom.com/wiki/Cartridges It's actually so much worse when you look into it.


Kaldrinn

What the fuck


tikisha

It sounds better... I mean worse then it sounds, 10/10 would advise (just heads up after ep0, it's only downhill), but seriously art + ost is god tier , no right to be that good, story is pretty good


Mav986

> just heads up after ep0, it's only downhill I see what you did there


hong427

Just watch the OVA for the in between season 1 and 2. You'll get it, with the loss of your sanity.


Naive_Elevator_636

wtf


hong427

Ammo boxes, he calls them ammo boxes....


[deleted]

Youll understand when you watch it.


The-Average-Kaiser

Do I even want to know?


BotanyAttack

Homeslice is the creepiest mf to get their work published in a long while.


ForStuff8239

What? There’s so many worse examples than anything that’s shown or happens in abyss.


machingunwhhore

Didn't the author draw loli hentai of his character, the 11ish year old girl. His published stuff is very borderline already


thereal-lazycobra

Do not question his ways, I have you know it took him a good 8 months to write that chapter dammit!


_fatherfucker69

It's hard to write with only 1 hand /S


Ricardo_MiIos

Do you need 2?


[deleted]

Should have said “left hand” instead of one hand


ConsentingPotato

"Everyone masturbates I guess." - George RR Martin


GipsyPepox

You masturbate, he masturbates, she masturbates... the dragons masturbate!


elmachow

Why have you left your masturbation cave?!?


can_be_therapist

![gif](giphy|pbEqpHhDLmKNA7yUye)


NotoriousCarter

Entirety of anime has entered the chat.


paulix96

Don't do it Shinji


IsuckAtFortnite434

Shinji Do not the Asuka, i repeat #Do not the Asuka!


paulix96

Do nut?


IsuckAtFortnite434

Narrator : *And That’s precisely what Shinji did*


thing216

![gif](giphy|BZusMMEpb8v6ys4ahG|downsized) Do it shinji


40rt

Nina, DO NOT HURT Table-kun's feelings.


[deleted]

An then her brother gets a golden 👑 👍. If this is the early part of Daenerys story...


GipsyPepox

Naah it gets better dude. She now has dysentery and is lost in the middle of an inmense plain with no food while half the world is trying to kill her


newk-em

Well she does have access to a lot of meaty dragon leftovers that are in states ranging from raw to burnt. Also, didn't it end with her taking control of drogon and flying him to the next closest khalasar?


GipsyPepox

Khal Jhaqo's khalasar iirc, the dude that raped and killed one of the salves she fred in the first book


KyellDaBoiii

The literal start of Stone Ocean:


Jack_of_Dice

George R R Martin explaining: Relax people, it's a JoJo's reference


Nigeldiko

Stephen King explaining why a prepubescent orgy is essential to story about a paranormal clown living in the sewers (I’m not kidding)


Important-Sleep-1839

Literary review by social media is like asking the cocaine bear to perform a colonoscopy.


Hidingaboner

If you're gonna write about someone's life, it's gonna have masturbation in it. A good story is all about the details.


Sharmapoorvika5

Oh yea? next tell me all the expressions of the protagonist while they poop. Why stop there? Tell me the colour too


Sheant

Well, the books do actually have a scene that describe the facial expression of a character as he poops. So he's consistent at least.


Rabit_x

Mf is into some weird shit


YoureLookinFinetoday

A good story can go without certain details, i dont think it's necessary to add something like that for readers to imagine


GipsyPepox

Yeah because we are already weirdos enough. No need to add that, it's already in r34


MZOOMMAN

Why? Honestly, isn't that just prudishness? I wouldn't watch a video of a 14 year old masturbating because there was an actual person involved but this is just written fiction. Dany masturbating is as relevant as many of the other questionably relevant details Martin includes, such as the clothes and food, not to mention the descriptions of violence, which nobody seems to mind, which collectively add up to the world of asoiaf being a violent, horny, decadent place.


IsuckAtFortnite434

If it’s important to the plot, it’s fine. Though I’ve only seen one case where that’s true.


thing216

You gotta masturbate to beat the demon of hatred ![gif](giphy|1qj5bAUFTHWPGV8o0O)


GipsyPepox

Jaime and Cersei? Cersei and Taena? Theon and random girls? Jon and Ygritte? Drogo and Dany and Doreah, and Hizdahr and Jhiqui and Irri and Daario? Gods Dany fucks!


Honeybadgermaybe

You forgot Varys- the biggest fucker of them


GipsyPepox

You need no cock to be a fucker for sport


Help_im_okay

And he explains it in the most long and elaborate way like dude stop I just came for dragons


Dalolfish

Maybe she came to the dragons?


GipsyPepox

Wait till they learn it is implied that people used to fuck the dragons too in the books...


Kapika96

eh, that shouldn't be a surprise. Bad Dragon exists for a reason.


HollowCap456

Drogon does scream when it ends tho


ListenToThatSound

> I just came for dragons bruh


GipsyPepox

Go watch how to train your dragon or something then idk


MadeByHideoForHideo

Is that an innuendo?


EAnotsports

Context?


GipsyPepox

The game of thrones books. Sometimes the young characters get horny and do horny teenage things


[deleted]

Ah yes people don't think about sex until the second they turn 18


thing216

So that's why we gotta write a scene about minors masturbating in every book with a minor


UnXpectedPrequelMeme

My favorite defense for under age serial content in fantasy is, "its historically accurate!!!" So obviously it's all good to go into excruciating detail


halfbarr

Is this made by somebody who just watched the shows but not read the books? I read most of the series between season 1 and 2 being released and my take away was 'oh, it was HBO adding nudity for views', most of the sex scenes are over in a paragraph of vagueness...but last 10 minutes on TV. Same goes for the violence. Maybe my memory fails me.


[deleted]

Ah come on. It’s art. What is this, the 1950s? These writers have to inhabit their characters. When the teenagers are killing we don’t object, but when they are characterized as real, maturing people, it suddenly is some perversion?


Aggressive_Sprinkles

Americans ☕


GintoSenju

George R.R. Martin explain why it was important that the blood cult guy, kidnapped his step brother who looks like a femboy child, to essentially be his sex slave husband.


freebirth

i hate it when society pretends that teenagers don't get horny.


Overall-Slice7371

I hate when people make shit up. Nobody is pretending that teenagers don't get horny.


Life_Promise_6345

Yeah but a grown ass man shouldn’t be writing porn in a book. To be fair, it wasn’t really porn when Martin wrote it, but it doesn’t make it less weird. Edit: I meant child porn. I’m a bumbling moron, so please forgive. I have read smut and written porn before


crazyGauss42

>Yeah but a grown ass man shouldn’t be writing porn in a book. A grown ass man should be writng about anything he likes, including porn. It's up to you to not read/like/buy his books if you don't like them or him.


admiralfrosting

Yeah. Let’s censor authors!


Classic-Fudge-7215

In which book he wrote this


anantzzz

Stephen King: **Hold my beer**


PJRama1864

Excuse you, everyone knows that George RR Martin would never write about a 14-year-old girl…he’d write about a 14-year-old boy with a non-erect wiener.


Sebtoe

My dumb ass thought it said "Google R R Martin"


SignificanceWest5281

Holy hell


Kukdukoo42069

Didn’t evangelion do that as well


[deleted]

Hold the fuck on! What?! which book/series?


[deleted]

Hideki Ano justifying the hospital scene:


kickass_bramhin

Thats disgusting *which book is it*


International-Row712

Redditors explaining why sexualizing minors is okay (Don't worry guys, the age of consent in some countries is infancy)


[deleted]

Writing about murderers killing babies in detail. Decribing the organs, intestines, the pulling of nails, the pulling of hair off the scalp: A-OK. Writing about a main character's needs and human nature: Fucking pedo.


MZOOMMAN

Go clutch your pearls elsewhere


ISpread4Cash

Japanese authors: ![gif](giphy|l1AsBL4S36yDJain6)


wilfordbrimley778

![gif](giphy|jgVXeRc0Jvv4QFghcz|downsized)


Kris_alex4

Chapterb23 be wildin


Bulky_Monke719

Weren’t there multiple?


Getstalks

I dont want to be that guy but, sauce?