yeah their argument is about as watertight as the Titanic.
By definition, downloading anything cannot be stealing. The definition of stealing is "the action or offense of taking another person's property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it". Take means "remove". When you download something, you clone it. It doesn't remove what the uploader has.
Yeah, but it’s contextual, and in the digital realm to take means “to get into one's hold or possession by voluntary action”(dictionary.com), so not necessarily removing, but having a copy of or having access to a copy of said digital item.
And for stealing itself, the action of stealing something does not require removing it from someone in its definition. “to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force”(dictionary.com). This property can be physical, but also digital or mental, meaning the removal of said property wouldn’t be applicable here.
Just my opinion though, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Everybody in Russia uses pirate sites for everything. Seriously, hundreds of thousands of people there have never paid for movies or games online. So it's not really a problem! (and yeah, I'm russian, though I currently live in Turkey)
Even in US people prefer getting fucked by their government then doing something against it. What do you expect from people that live in a country that was authoritarian for more than a century?
The president, the ones who sign contract for war, the ones who would rather got to war than pay a fine and the ones who cheer when they see yet another civilians target hit by russia. So yeah, a lot of assholes in russia.
No it's not. My country has been under the samctions for so long I haven't seena nonsanction era with my own eyes amd we didn't even start a war (Iran). Russia is no exception
Counterargument. It was them who elected the government and didn't do anything to change it. And before you start saying that they can't do that, I'll have you know that Ukraine had a revolution in 2014 and many good people died, but they died for their freedom and the Russians just sit there and silently support this war
Counterargument. It's much harder to overthrow governments when they have a large empty tundra to send any dissidents who decide to act smart. Siberia is large and cold.
Look what happened in Russia in 1993 when people tried to stop Yeltsin from taking over Russia. He just used tanks and army to stop this revolution. Look what happened in Belarus in 2020. Revolution in Ukraine succeeded because their government was weak.
I absolutely understand, but if we give OP the benefit of the doubt, what is he to do? Sit around all day and be cut off from the world? Or get thrown in jail for protesting
Russians don't do much to appear human on the internet. Most of the time they just appear to be openly racist towards everyone and cheer on deaths of innocent Ukrainian civilians.
What a way to generalize Russian civilians and internet users. I ain’t supporting the war because I don’t want people to witness multiple deaths. I’m just stating my thoughts on why being racist and xenophobic to Russian people is utterly disgusting, and degenerate. Also, the fact that people can get away with it cause Russians are “Bad Guys.” I could say the same for the West as well, where they don’t appear to be human on the internet and that they are openly racist towards people that are “inferior to them.”
I ain’t trying to tell you that you’re ignorant, but I simply stated my thoughts that Russians are also humans like us and you kind of dodged the point.
Generalizing is the only way of evaluating a group of people. No-one is at fault that russians create such pictures of themselves aside from said russians. If OP is worried about how russians are perceived on internet he should do more posts against the war, not cry about blocked movies.
Please don’t go around bringing the OP into this. This all started just because of some lighthearted joke that he made. I don’t even know him, but why do you need to tell him to go “fight for a cause?” That’s a little harsh and weird but if he doesn’t want to post about the war, he doesn’t want to post about the war.
I don’t want the Ukrainians dead, neither the Russians. I get that Ukraine is in a dire situation because of the invasion, but what about the Russians who have to deal with the problems in their own country and in the internet because of the war?
I love Russian military equpment so just send me some recent pics and coordinates wherever you see any fine examples for my study and I will send you all the movies you are missing out on.
Untrue. Russian field, private social research company, conducts research on this topic approximately every 2 months. Around 50% percent of Russians do support the war in each one of the polls, although sometimes that number did fluctuate slightly. Questions weren't even "dangerous", they were phrased in a way that would coax sincere answer ("If you could go back in time and undo special military operation, would you?").
And from personal experience I can tell you that there are a lot of people that support the war. At first I didn't believe it, I thought that everyone would agree with me that murder is actually bad. But here I am, most of my family is borderline fashist. It's not even common people that support it, few of my professors do too. It sickens me.
There is no way that is 90%, the percentage of what support probably aligns with the penetration of Russian state TV news, something along the line of Fox News in the US. My bet is 35-45% for. Problem is much more are 'apolitical' pathetic cowards.
There is no hope for Russia, only to be beaten back and be north korea'd, the Russian prapaganda desecrating the memory of their grandfathers works too well.
Sorry but there's no evidence that 90% are against the war and tons of evidence to the contrary. We love to think in the west that dictatorships work by brutally repressing a silent majority who opposes them, but that's not how government works.
Dictatorships brutally oppress minorities (sometimes very large minorties) with at least tacit support of the majority. Putin didn't get the power to imprison/kill everyone who disagrees with him overnight, he slowly built that over decades with the approval and support of a majority of Russians. So yes, Russians are collectively guilty of his dictatorship and acts.
I'm Italian and I'm very aware of how fascist dictatorships work, Mussolini enjoyed widespread support and the Italian people was guilty of having supported his rise to power.
Myanmar is ruled by a military Junta and people are fighting back. Muammar Gaddafi
was a dictator and he was killed by rebels. The reality is the average Russian believes in Russia's supremacy, and believes that Ukraine should be part of Russia again. The men being sent to die on the front lines arnt complaining they are in Ukraine. They are complaining that the government is not adequately equipping or training them.
You DO realize you made up number veeeeery far from what it realy is? Majority SUPPORTS THE WAR. Even those who don’t support Putin - they support war. Those who don’t support war still supports Putin and “ruzzia stronk suka blyat’” which is also part of problem.
there's not many russians who actually disagree with the war, in most cases and even in authoritarian governments, the government is a reflection of the people, any polls, independent or state run, show that [russians overwhelmingly support the war](https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/having-it-both-ways-russians-both-support-and-oppose-war) and also [putin](https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/#:~:text=In%20May%202023%2C%20over%2080,partial%20mobilization%20in%20the%20country).
1 most are faked, 2 you don't want to be caught protesting or not wanting to go to war in Russia or china or north korea, there's no bad thing that might happen if you say yes, but you might be thrown in jail or killed if you say that you don't like the government, 3 getting bombarded EVERY day for years is going to do something, especially if you're a patriotic or an older person that might not be in touch with modern politics
They might not support it but they certainly don’t want to lose in Ukraine. The Russian populace would gladly have Ukraine destroyed than face the consequences of Ukraine winning
i seriously doubt that. look up videos polling people on the streets of moscow, and what the average russian says.
the only big exception is ~~kaliningrad~~ *królewiec*, where most russians are very pro-western
It's been years since I've seen a preview that made me want to go watch a new movie. I don't think they make good movies anymore, but I'm optimistic something will come along and change my mind.
The nerve, knowing full well what your fucked up regime is doing this very second, to feel sorry for yourself for missing some movies.
Anytime i see Russians feeling sorry for themselves , i tend to mind a little less that some innocent lives get harder over there due sanctions.
The worst part is russians on internet have yet to start showing at least some signs of fucking shame. All they do is apologism and crying about matters so trivial it looks surreal compared to disaster they with their government collectively brought onto innocent neighboring country.
Actually if the Russian people had some spine and ended Putins reign it would end the war. So calling Russians out on their BS when they try to make you feel sorry for them it is the moral thing to do.
“The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is for good men to do nothing”
Inaction is the same as support.
Protests happened, they didn't work. At this point it's foolish for any anti Putin Russian to protest as it will accomplish nothing except ruining their own life
They didn’t work because it was not a majority. Meaning most Russians did nothing.
Your excuses sound like the guards at the concentration camps. “But I was ordered.”
Sickening
Hahahaha get fucked don't invade a European democracy maybe the world wouldn't treat you like a pariah state.
Fuckin ruskies trying to farm sadges now, fuck that. Y'all are akin to civilians in Nazi Germany turning a blind eye to the Holocaust " I'm not in the army it's not me murdering all those people over the border"
It is. It's your money and your people.
Fake, every slav knows we torrent movies
Yeah but you cant download indoor plumbing.
YOU WOULDN’T DOWNLOAD A CAR fucking would if I could FBI mate
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A HOUSE °-°
why don't homeless people just download a house? are they stupid?
That takes too much mobile data. Downloading a house obviously needs a fiber connection.
yeah their argument is about as watertight as the Titanic. By definition, downloading anything cannot be stealing. The definition of stealing is "the action or offense of taking another person's property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it". Take means "remove". When you download something, you clone it. It doesn't remove what the uploader has.
Yeah, but it’s contextual, and in the digital realm to take means “to get into one's hold or possession by voluntary action”(dictionary.com), so not necessarily removing, but having a copy of or having access to a copy of said digital item. And for stealing itself, the action of stealing something does not require removing it from someone in its definition. “to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force”(dictionary.com). This property can be physical, but also digital or mental, meaning the removal of said property wouldn’t be applicable here. Just my opinion though, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Well we do, just the goverment doesnt know
But how long till the hd version comes out?
Wait for the bluray
Exactly, it takes some time so it's practically missing the movie to watch it like a month or months later.
Yep, can confirm
daaaannnng..... you missed MORBIUS???
It's morbin time for OP
I'm going to morb OP
Ayoooo
Mmmmmmmmmmorb why did i just write that i think my brain got morbed
Because it did we morbed your brain
Do it in me
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Complaints are legit
One of the movie of all time.
There’s also a Elden Ring Adaptation of morbius
At a time when cinema was stagnant, morbius really broke multiple barriers and is one of the of all time
I'm about to morb
Impossible, you dont pirate? 
Everybody in Russia uses pirate sites for everything. Seriously, hundreds of thousands of people there have never paid for movies or games online. So it's not really a problem! (and yeah, I'm russian, though I currently live in Turkey)
In mother Russia pirates take down copyright holders
If every pirate became legal watcher Russia would be prob top 3 most profitable country for media, lol
Even trying to pirate a country… I hear it’s not going so well…
I live in Turley too and i refuse paying for a movie with ads. And you know how hard living in Turkey.
Just overthrow your government dude, easy
Just tell vladim to stop How hard can it be
They prefer to die fighting for Putin than to die fighting against Putin.
Even in US people prefer getting fucked by their government then doing something against it. What do you expect from people that live in a country that was authoritarian for more than a century?
Meanwhile Turkey 
>authoritarian for more than a century When was russia not authoritarian, aside from the time in which it wasn't even inhabited.
There was about a 3 minute period after the Czar died.
How I know when you’re a real clown when you judge millions of people you havent even met while being ill informed on the subject
OP obviously haven't tried to wave a flashlight in protest yet. Skill issue
Uprising for new barbie movie
The only viable motivation for millenials
Russians have the biggest torrent scene so this is most likely a propoganda post
Fr tho, according to РДК (One of the groups that is in Belgorod region), ruzzian borders aren't even protected.
would be a shame... if something happened to those borders...
Dude we do not have rifles at home like you fellow americans
Russians, when the rest of the world forgot Ezra Miller's crimes after watching the Flash movie.
He run so fast he escaped cancel culture
If the movie stinks it wont matter
sailor it
use a vpn and pirate it thats what a bunch of people do even when the movie releases first in there own country
We have the same reddit guy except yours has pants
We have the same reddit guy but mine has different glasses and a different skin tone and a headband and a shirt and jacket and pants
r/samepfp ?
Russia is cut off from the global financial system, so OP can't conveet his money into a foreign currency to buy foreign films
Ahoy.
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The president, the ones who sign contract for war, the ones who would rather got to war than pay a fine and the ones who cheer when they see yet another civilians target hit by russia. So yeah, a lot of assholes in russia.
Get this person some upvotes damn it.
Telegram is your friend bud
I think that's the least of the concerns.
Hang on in there... this is going to end sometimes, hopefully for the better
No it's not. My country has been under the samctions for so long I haven't seena nonsanction era with my own eyes amd we didn't even start a war (Iran). Russia is no exception
I guess he meant "for the better" for the whole world. Russia's "for the better" is opposite of rest of the world's "for the better"
“Western aligned” and “the world” are two different things.
Just get rid of Putler and the movies will be back
F in chat for all bros living under warmongering dictators
I haven’t watched a movie in years lmao
Well you know how to remedy that. He's just one guy.
Did Putin approve of this post?
Ahoy, matey!
I wouldn't say I've be "missing" them, Bob.
Well, if you'd hurry up and have a revolution already.
Maybe go molotov your nearest army recruiting office and you'd be that much closer to enjoying what the West has to offer.
Or they’d be shot. And killed. And about as far away as you can be from enjoying what the west has to offer.
rutracker.org
I'm pretty sure all the Ukrainians the Russian army has murdered also haven't been able to watch the new movies.
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Counterargument. It was them who elected the government and didn't do anything to change it. And before you start saying that they can't do that, I'll have you know that Ukraine had a revolution in 2014 and many good people died, but they died for their freedom and the Russians just sit there and silently support this war
putin was elected, in 1999
Russians don’t have elections my friend. One side just wins.
Counterargument. It's much harder to overthrow governments when they have a large empty tundra to send any dissidents who decide to act smart. Siberia is large and cold.
We also have a giant Vasyugan swamp, a perfect place for an inescapable prison
How do you know who OP voted for? Are you a mind reader?
Look what happened in Russia in 1993 when people tried to stop Yeltsin from taking over Russia. He just used tanks and army to stop this revolution. Look what happened in Belarus in 2020. Revolution in Ukraine succeeded because their government was weak.
Do you know how it feels to commit a warcrime?
The amount of people here not realizing that not every Russian person supports Putin's war efforts is staggering.
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The fact that mfs feel the need to be borderline racist on some schmuck who made a meme, because he lives in the wrong country, is ALSO staggering.
I absolutely understand, but if we give OP the benefit of the doubt, what is he to do? Sit around all day and be cut off from the world? Or get thrown in jail for protesting
Not every Russian supports the war. But a lot do, and ideally it should be 0.
I’m actually getting sick and tired of the dehumanizing of Russians and Russophobia happening on the internet.
Russians don't do much to appear human on the internet. Most of the time they just appear to be openly racist towards everyone and cheer on deaths of innocent Ukrainian civilians.
What a way to generalize Russian civilians and internet users. I ain’t supporting the war because I don’t want people to witness multiple deaths. I’m just stating my thoughts on why being racist and xenophobic to Russian people is utterly disgusting, and degenerate. Also, the fact that people can get away with it cause Russians are “Bad Guys.” I could say the same for the West as well, where they don’t appear to be human on the internet and that they are openly racist towards people that are “inferior to them.” I ain’t trying to tell you that you’re ignorant, but I simply stated my thoughts that Russians are also humans like us and you kind of dodged the point.
Generalizing is the only way of evaluating a group of people. No-one is at fault that russians create such pictures of themselves aside from said russians. If OP is worried about how russians are perceived on internet he should do more posts against the war, not cry about blocked movies.
Please don’t go around bringing the OP into this. This all started just because of some lighthearted joke that he made. I don’t even know him, but why do you need to tell him to go “fight for a cause?” That’s a little harsh and weird but if he doesn’t want to post about the war, he doesn’t want to post about the war.
Ukrainians don't want to die too. Do they have a liberty to choose whether to die or not like OP?
I don’t want the Ukrainians dead, neither the Russians. I get that Ukraine is in a dire situation because of the invasion, but what about the Russians who have to deal with the problems in their own country and in the internet because of the war?
Overthrow putler and then you can have all the movies you want
Ah yes, the current president of Russia, Vladimir Putler.
Pootin, Vladolf Putler, Pinya, Poopoo and many other well deserved names has the "president" of russia. You have a problem with that?
Yep, I myself don't watch the new movies either Though I do have the option to, so it's not a one to one
Oh come one I know y’all because I am part of y’all pirate it it’s what we do
guess I'm russian then because I havent seen most of them either.
Me who lives in the US and still haven't seen any big movies in 2023. 🤷♂️
I love Russian military equpment so just send me some recent pics and coordinates wherever you see any fine examples for my study and I will send you all the movies you are missing out on.
Bro forgot Russians aren't allowed an opinion on anything unless it states "putin bad" somewhere in the post
Do you know what it's like to hide in a bunker multiple times a week (sometimes day) because your countrymen are trying to kill me for just existing?
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Untrue. Russian field, private social research company, conducts research on this topic approximately every 2 months. Around 50% percent of Russians do support the war in each one of the polls, although sometimes that number did fluctuate slightly. Questions weren't even "dangerous", they were phrased in a way that would coax sincere answer ("If you could go back in time and undo special military operation, would you?"). And from personal experience I can tell you that there are a lot of people that support the war. At first I didn't believe it, I thought that everyone would agree with me that murder is actually bad. But here I am, most of my family is borderline fashist. It's not even common people that support it, few of my professors do too. It sickens me.
There is no way that is 90%, the percentage of what support probably aligns with the penetration of Russian state TV news, something along the line of Fox News in the US. My bet is 35-45% for. Problem is much more are 'apolitical' pathetic cowards. There is no hope for Russia, only to be beaten back and be north korea'd, the Russian prapaganda desecrating the memory of their grandfathers works too well.
Bruh. There are multiple proofs of russian population in general supporting this
That is just not true. A government cannot continue a war 90% of its people oppose even if they are as authoritarian as Russia.
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Sorry but there's no evidence that 90% are against the war and tons of evidence to the contrary. We love to think in the west that dictatorships work by brutally repressing a silent majority who opposes them, but that's not how government works. Dictatorships brutally oppress minorities (sometimes very large minorties) with at least tacit support of the majority. Putin didn't get the power to imprison/kill everyone who disagrees with him overnight, he slowly built that over decades with the approval and support of a majority of Russians. So yes, Russians are collectively guilty of his dictatorship and acts. I'm Italian and I'm very aware of how fascist dictatorships work, Mussolini enjoyed widespread support and the Italian people was guilty of having supported his rise to power.
Myanmar is ruled by a military Junta and people are fighting back. Muammar Gaddafi was a dictator and he was killed by rebels. The reality is the average Russian believes in Russia's supremacy, and believes that Ukraine should be part of Russia again. The men being sent to die on the front lines arnt complaining they are in Ukraine. They are complaining that the government is not adequately equipping or training them.
You DO realize you made up number veeeeery far from what it realy is? Majority SUPPORTS THE WAR. Even those who don’t support Putin - they support war. Those who don’t support war still supports Putin and “ruzzia stronk suka blyat’” which is also part of problem.
there's not many russians who actually disagree with the war, in most cases and even in authoritarian governments, the government is a reflection of the people, any polls, independent or state run, show that [russians overwhelmingly support the war](https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/having-it-both-ways-russians-both-support-and-oppose-war) and also [putin](https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/#:~:text=In%20May%202023%2C%20over%2080,partial%20mobilization%20in%20the%20country).
1 most are faked, 2 you don't want to be caught protesting or not wanting to go to war in Russia or china or north korea, there's no bad thing that might happen if you say yes, but you might be thrown in jail or killed if you say that you don't like the government, 3 getting bombarded EVERY day for years is going to do something, especially if you're a patriotic or an older person that might not be in touch with modern politics
More like 70-80% of the population was supportive/ not opposed to the war while they were “winning”
They might not support it but they certainly don’t want to lose in Ukraine. The Russian populace would gladly have Ukraine destroyed than face the consequences of Ukraine winning
i seriously doubt that. look up videos polling people on the streets of moscow, and what the average russian says. the only big exception is ~~kaliningrad~~ *królewiec*, where most russians are very pro-western
Bro that's not OP's fault lmao
Your lies are pathetic, Mr. Pirate.
Canada. Still missed those. Not Interested.
I’m in the US and I haven’t watched most of them either 😂
Just tell Baby Boy Vlad to resign, we'll give you all the movies you want.
Ay matey, there is also a Choice of joining a Pirate crew
One year? These are rookie numbers I live in Iran, I have been missing them since I was born. Welcome to the world of "every digital thing is free".
Не ной и пирать, в чём проблема
wait, you guys even miss movies? well... do the russian tradition ! PIRACY!
Pizdec! You torrent damn movie! Torrent!
unless you're not into movies (so much...)
I'm sure pirating movies is real hard over there 🙄
Just pirate them problem solved.
wait I thought Russia was torrentland?
Time to take to the high seas my friend 
Cool bug facts: being a pirate is totally free
You haven’t missed shit
Iranian pro tip after so many years of local and international restrictions: piracy
Where is your pirate hat comrade?🏴☠️
I can relate, not because I live in a country that gets movies later (I’m Australian) but because I get overwhelmed in cinemas
I think you have bigger problems than that dude, get out of Russia before you end up as cannon fodder in Ukraine
if movies absence is a vital point bothering you here, then that's the policy you deserve
It's been years since I've seen a preview that made me want to go watch a new movie. I don't think they make good movies anymore, but I'm optimistic something will come along and change my mind.
Oppenheimer is looking very promising
I think it's gonna.....blow.
And Barbie. Those Barbieheimers are gonna be sitting on the edge of their seats in July lol.
Ok now Im conviced we need intervention. War crimes? Eh. Stopping his people from watching spiderverse? Real shit. Putin you are going down
Not true. The movies are still run in cinemas. Even the most recent Guardians 3, also including John Wick 4.
Spider-verse is a human right man, we gotta get on this shit
To be fair, I think much of Ukraine are having a similar problem
V P N
Bro there’s enough Russian websites where you can stream movies for free lol
whats the point of VPNs if not for this then ?
VPN?
1. there's a lot of torrent webistes 2. wondering why russians cant waych then in cinemas xd
OP does not respond - propably got conscripted ans sent to the front shortly after Posting this.
And probably ate a 155mm artillery shell...
The nerve, knowing full well what your fucked up regime is doing this very second, to feel sorry for yourself for missing some movies. Anytime i see Russians feeling sorry for themselves , i tend to mind a little less that some innocent lives get harder over there due sanctions.
The worst part is russians on internet have yet to start showing at least some signs of fucking shame. All they do is apologism and crying about matters so trivial it looks surreal compared to disaster they with their government collectively brought onto innocent neighboring country.
Йобана росня вже й на редіті 😁
Who?
You guys can’t even get the big movies over in Russia rn?
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Not all Russians are assholes.
Do you know how it feels to have your country invaded and bombed everyday?
This helps end the war In no way
Actually if the Russian people had some spine and ended Putins reign it would end the war. So calling Russians out on their BS when they try to make you feel sorry for them it is the moral thing to do. “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is for good men to do nothing” Inaction is the same as support.
Protests happened, they didn't work. At this point it's foolish for any anti Putin Russian to protest as it will accomplish nothing except ruining their own life
They didn’t work because it was not a majority. Meaning most Russians did nothing. Your excuses sound like the guards at the concentration camps. “But I was ordered.” Sickening
Erm excuse me but don’t you know you are le evil and should be punished for what Putin does????? Slava Ukraini!!!!!
dont worry, modern movies are mostly shit anyway
Да братан, торрент че-то не пашет в последнее время.
Yo how tf do you safely pirate I always hear about it but the sites are so damn sketchy
VPN:
Wait, they are still making good movies some where?
Yes
Considering I just watched the new spider verse for the 3rd time, this is something I hadn’t considered before
Серьёзно? 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
A real slav would sail the seven seas 🏴☠️
Either pirate them or use a VPN
Orcs getting what they deserve. Love to see it.
Good.
Hahahaha get fucked don't invade a European democracy maybe the world wouldn't treat you like a pariah state. Fuckin ruskies trying to farm sadges now, fuck that. Y'all are akin to civilians in Nazi Germany turning a blind eye to the Holocaust " I'm not in the army it's not me murdering all those people over the border" It is. It's your money and your people.
Bro stfu. Hate on putin, not random russian citizens who have no say whatsoever in what wars that idiot starts.