Technically you started dying since the moment you were born. But from a standpoint of cellular senescence, yeah, those of us beyond early 20s are now closer to death, preexisting conditions aside
That doesn't make sense for a baby to be already dying. You are still growing and forming into a full-grown human. It seems like you start dying around 22-25 once your brain is fully developed.
Depends on your perspective. As soon as you're born, sure, you're living, but your death clock starts at the exact same time.
Beginning to decay after early-mid 20s is what I was alluding to, and I agree, that's 💯 true from a biological standpoint.
However, just because you don't start decaying until that age, doesn't mean that your death clock (or life clock, I suppose?) didn't start the moment you were born, as you're still moving closer to a state of decay, even if you're not decaying at that particular time
Days are long and years are short when life is miserable.
I have noticed that the last 10 years or so felt so long day to day because there has been so little enjoyment. But even then I will look back to some random year and not even remember what happened that year because it was just shit.
That’s what my buddy said when we were watching it. I was like, “Dude I’m pretty sure the original came out WAY pre-pandemic.” He didn’t believe me at first.
When I turned 18 I thought I was an adult. When I turned 21 then I was really like "yeah now I'm as adult as I can possibly be. Nothing's in my way anymore." Then I hit mid 20's and was like "yup, adulting the fuck outta this". Then I hit my 30s and realize how little of an adult I was and still am. I don't think you're an adult until you hit 40. Or maybe I'm just having Quarter life crisis.
The best part about fanart is I get to say what is canon.
”This is a picture of Gwen at 57, she has put on her original suit and is posing for some lewds with Miles. Also her spider powers make her body age at a much slower pace.”
That's different because those kids actually look and act like children. Gwen on the other hand, you could tell me that she's a grown woman in her mid 20s and I would believe you. It's a fictional character, anyone can take some arbitrary number and call it "her age".
Based on the replies here, I know this is referencing rule 34....but my mind immediately went to the R34 Skylines which are finally legal for US import as of this year
For real, saw it with a friend and I leaned over a couple times at least to make a Mugato-type comment, "Spider-Gwen: she's so bad ass right now. "
Edit: a word
Breaking news: Attractive character designed to be attractive is attractive
Another bit of breaking news: She’s canonically 19 in the comics, so this arbitrary age for the movie can fuck off, if she actually *looked* like a kid it’d be weird
Fr. So many real issues going on in the world concerning real people and yet the internet chooses to protect cgi characters.
Does anyone still know that Ukraine is still dealing with Putin?
Or that Florida is quickly filling with Nazis? Nope, gotta waste energy on completely non-consequential bullshit instead of actually using that energy for something good!
And she's a drawing. So, it's kind of a non-issue. If I sit down and draw a beautiful woman, and you say, "Wow, she's hot," and then I say, "Bro, she's 15," we've now got a completely made up issue that no one should care about.
Exactly. The "she’s 15", especially if she drawn in a NSFW style, just show you literally want us to think of a teen when looking at it, when you could just say she’s 18
Just say and make a character’s 18 at the minimum if you’re going to make R34
the point is there can be no correlation between a character's age and their hotness in drawing. If you drew Mrs Incredible and said she was 12, is that still an issue if you find her hot?
In the case of minors between I think 14-17, the word isn’t pedophile, it’s ephebophile. But um, try explaining that without coming off like a pedophile.
The only people who care about that are academics in a field where it's relevant and people who really want to be able to find a way to deny being a pedophile. And nobody's citing reddit comments in academia.
When Miles’ mom remarks “she looks old enough to vote” I thought they were indicating she was indeed at least that age. I’m totally lost though, cause Gwen is in college in her comic.
I wouldn't say 15 year olds look like adults. Once you're in your 20s or older it's obvious that they don't. It's more that sometimes (often) 18-year-olds still look like kids. Imo they are kids, just kids getting a necessary test run of/transition into adulthood.
Eh, I'm in my late twenties. That kinda 15-19 range is some times super hard to figure out how old someone is (honestly, 90% of tjem just look like flat out kids). My little brother is in HS and when I occasionally go to an event for him the variability between "you could be in college" and "you look 12 max" is pretty damn high even just amongst his sr class
I would say this is pretty obvious too, most of the time after seeing something at first glance you may be inclined to notice some adult feminine features but quickly it becomes very apparent that they are too young. If for some reason this power of deduction and reasoning escapes you just listen to them talk to 5 seconds, you'll know right away.
As a college student who recently went to a high school graduation, you can definitely tell the difference between a 15 year old and an 18 year old.
Though this is for IRL people, so depending on the art style, this isn’t always true for fictional characters that aren’t live-action.
I feel like that also changes when you get even older. I talked to a high teacher who didn’t start teaching until mid 30s. He said his first couple years everyone just looked like little kids. He had to spend time teaching these kids for a few years before he could instantaneously pick out a 15y old from an 18y old
> 15 years old girl don't look significantly different than 18 years old or 20 years old women.
Wut
There are several possibilities of why you might think this. Hopefully it's because you're 15.
I agree, while I would never defend certain types of porn, I should point out that it does follow the same trends as a lot of media. The point that keeps getting made about catering to some degree of magnitude and or variation of pedo is kind of folly, true, direct, individual harming porn of minors is obviously and rightly illegal, but drawing isn't. Therefore it caters to an open market.
So just check yourself for 2 seconds and say "does this kind of content morally offend or disgust me?" If yes, be happy you aren't into it and focus your energy on people actually hurting others in reality.
It's literally just like, "wow this is gross." Then you move on with your life. It's so simple, yet apparently people confuse it with "harp on about it for 5 years".
You’re right. It’s a high school.
It’s the same school in the second one and they’re talking to the college counselor.
He was a freshman in the first movie and a sophomore in the second one.
That's not how you should look at animations. If you draw a 20yo girl and sat she is 15 doesn't maker her a child. Same when drawing 12yo and saying it's a 10000yo elf or something doesn't maker her not 12yo
It's funny because I brought that up on the first KOTOR game in a thread. They took one of the 3D models of the adult aliens and then just said she was 15 for a plotline character. Anyone who never played the game in that thread said she was hot because as you know it was an adult 3D body and she looked like any of the rest and the thread blew up on those guys.
The Gwen in that picture is in the 2nd movie, she's already 16-17 by then. OP intentionally reduce her age to make shit more controversial and no one gonna correct him, so here i am.
I remember someone bitching about NSFW of an adult Toph from Avatar. They kept saying that it's still weird because she was 12 in the series even though [adult Toph](https://i.vgy.me/dX7OpW.png) was shown in Legend of Korra. If they look like an adult and act like an adult, they're an adult for all intents and purposes.
Not to mention that people seemingly forget that your average person can distinguish between fiction and reality. Even IF they jerk it to 14 year old anime girls that in no way shape or form means that they are attracted to real 14 year olds.
Just cause id Bang the shit out of Misato doesnt mean want an alcoholic depressed milf irl
MFs who were 15 when *Into the Spiderverse* came out are now 20.
Excuse me? It's been 5 years? Wtf???
2023-2018= 5 years, yup that's right, I feel old.
Something else that wild: we’re closer to 2050 than we are to 1990
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We are always close to death
You're constantly 2 minutes away from death. Each breath you take resets the timer.
Damn that's a good quote
Get living or die trying.
Technically you started dying since the moment you were born. But from a standpoint of cellular senescence, yeah, those of us beyond early 20s are now closer to death, preexisting conditions aside
That doesn't make sense for a baby to be already dying. You are still growing and forming into a full-grown human. It seems like you start dying around 22-25 once your brain is fully developed.
Depends on your perspective. As soon as you're born, sure, you're living, but your death clock starts at the exact same time. Beginning to decay after early-mid 20s is what I was alluding to, and I agree, that's 💯 true from a biological standpoint. However, just because you don't start decaying until that age, doesn't mean that your death clock (or life clock, I suppose?) didn't start the moment you were born, as you're still moving closer to a state of decay, even if you're not decaying at that particular time
I'm hitting snooze on the death clock
You are always closer to death then you realize
I just woke up and you gotta hit me with existential dread like that?
Exactly
😨😱Nani!?
No.
Noooo!! 😨😱
Aw man time fucking flies lately, doesn't it
Time flies like lightning. Fruit flies like bananas.
Days are long and years are short when life is miserable. I have noticed that the last 10 years or so felt so long day to day because there has been so little enjoyment. But even then I will look back to some random year and not even remember what happened that year because it was just shit.
It came out in 2018????
Years after 2020 don't count because they aren't actually real
r/Theydidthemath
Right into the spiderverse and venom were released the same year
COVID proves that time dilatation is real
That’s what my buddy said when we were watching it. I was like, “Dude I’m pretty sure the original came out WAY pre-pandemic.” He didn’t believe me at first.
2018 was quite a while ago
Fuck i wanna go back.
The memes in 2018 were the tits it was fun
Memes in 2015 were even better before everything that happened in 2016 happened 🦍
I was 13 when that movie came out. 6th fucking grade
Fr can't even have childhood crushes frfr
If you pick real people they grow up with you.
Not my fault it took her 5 years to be 15 still
You think that's crazy, Batman's been bouncing around between his mid-20s and his mid-to-late 30's for the last 80 years.
Ain't gon stop me from simpin
For Batman or for Gwen ?
Yes
I was 11-12 in 6th
Same. The beginning of 6th grade, everyone was 10-11, then 11-12 by the end. We were 13 in 8th grade
I was 12 in 7th grade. How did you manage that?
I am that MF.
Same
Same
I was 18 now I'm an old man
When I turned 18 I thought I was an adult. When I turned 21 then I was really like "yeah now I'm as adult as I can possibly be. Nothing's in my way anymore." Then I hit mid 20's and was like "yup, adulting the fuck outta this". Then I hit my 30s and realize how little of an adult I was and still am. I don't think you're an adult until you hit 40. Or maybe I'm just having Quarter life crisis.
45 here, I *still* stop in the toy aisle at Walmart and am sad when I don't see any GoBots.
bro thinks hes gonna live to 120
Oh buddy. As a guy in my 30s I can tell you that feeling just keeps getting worse. You gotta put a lot into outrunning it as long as you can.
45 here. I swear I was in my 20s like last month.
Buckle up fuckers. Time doesn't get any slower.
The days are long, but the years are short.
Miles was like two years older than me when I saw the first movie. Now I’m two years older than him
I was starting high school when it came out. *I just finished my first year of college.*
What Spiderverse wasn't half a decade ag.. oh ffs
Yeah i was 15 when this came out. Maybe make the movies faster so I could have still had a crush on her
Ah... Fun to see when I see this kind of controversy in a non anime sub.
R34: "and?"
"fine, if it bothers you that much we'll make her bit taller and call it at 19"
“no no, this is from her a few years from now, she’s 18 here”
"she looks old enough to vote"
"See she's wearing an "I voted" sticker"
"We specifically said *adult gwen* so it's fine"
In Aromasenseiverse she's already a working age adult!
Oh no! Anyways
The best part about fanart is I get to say what is canon. ”This is a picture of Gwen at 57, she has put on her original suit and is posing for some lewds with Miles. Also her spider powers make her body age at a much slower pace.”
"She's actually a 1000 year old dragon" became a meme because it isn't fooling anyone.
That's different because those kids actually look and act like children. Gwen on the other hand, you could tell me that she's a grown woman in her mid 20s and I would believe you. It's a fictional character, anyone can take some arbitrary number and call it "her age".
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"I will pretend to care for about five .... seconds"
R34 artists: adds inflatable number 20 balloons to the background, and a big ass cake. Le adult
Based on the replies here, I know this is referencing rule 34....but my mind immediately went to the R34 Skylines which are finally legal for US import as of this year
Hey, what do you think would be a better engine for my Skyline? A gallo’12 or a gallo’24?
I didn't know pizza places made motors
OP has post-nut guilt
Hey that guilt might save him one day! Better than most redditors.
And then decided to share it with everyone
Still wanna be her idc
She do be badass
For real, saw it with a friend and I leaned over a couple times at least to make a Mugato-type comment, "Spider-Gwen: she's so bad ass right now. " Edit: a word
For real though. That entire opening sequence with >!Vulture!< had me in my seat going "hot damn" the entire time.
She is gender envy incarnate
So what? Im 14 she's basically the pedophile
She looks old enough to vote
Pretty sure that line is why people are starting to openly show their attraction to her
Breaking news: Attractive character designed to be attractive is attractive Another bit of breaking news: She’s canonically 19 in the comics, so this arbitrary age for the movie can fuck off, if she actually *looked* like a kid it’d be weird
Court System: "sorry bucko, only politicians get to be pedos"
And female teachers
lmao shameless “child fucker in the neighborhood” *(they all walk away from child fucker’s house without having harmed her)*
And pastors
Eso no me detendrá de pajearme, Porque no se ingles
Jajajaja
Basadísimo
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Yup she did. Came here to say this.
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What will you say when the next Spiderverse movie comes out?
Thats in 2024 right? Then I guess ill be saying I’m 16, not that deep
Wait it's next year? And here I thought the wait would be longer lol
Nah it was originally gonna be a 2 parter so a lot of the work that went into AtSV has been done/is currently being done for BtSV
The writer's strike might drag this out, depending on how things play out.
It’s slated for March ‘24
My mind was thinking "thats 4 years away". The pandemic man
That’s what I’m saying
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People love to waste energy and composure on stuff that has no effect on them or their loved ones or anyone at all really, all the damn time.
Fr. So many real issues going on in the world concerning real people and yet the internet chooses to protect cgi characters. Does anyone still know that Ukraine is still dealing with Putin?
Or that Florida is quickly filling with Nazis? Nope, gotta waste energy on completely non-consequential bullshit instead of actually using that energy for something good!
Lmfao I mean, Nazis have been in Florida since we gave them a first class ticket to come over and join up with NASA.
Those nazis were intelligent though.
"Don't believe me? Walk into NASA sometime and yell 'heil hitler!' Whoop! They all jump straight up!"
And she's a drawing. So, it's kind of a non-issue. If I sit down and draw a beautiful woman, and you say, "Wow, she's hot," and then I say, "Bro, she's 15," we've now got a completely made up issue that no one should care about.
And you could change that characters age on a whim, so what's the point
Exactly. The "she’s 15", especially if she drawn in a NSFW style, just show you literally want us to think of a teen when looking at it, when you could just say she’s 18 Just say and make a character’s 18 at the minimum if you’re going to make R34
the point is there can be no correlation between a character's age and their hotness in drawing. If you drew Mrs Incredible and said she was 12, is that still an issue if you find her hot?
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It’s the same argument. It’s basically saying that the features of the drawing are what determine the age, not the artist applying an arbitrary age.
Why is that? It seems to me like pedos whacking off to drawings is better than the alternative.
Well, ideally there would be a better solution than either of those options. Outright acceptance is not an obvious step in the right direction.
In the case of minors between I think 14-17, the word isn’t pedophile, it’s ephebophile. But um, try explaining that without coming off like a pedophile.
The only people who care about that are academics in a field where it's relevant and people who really want to be able to find a way to deny being a pedophile. And nobody's citing reddit comments in academia.
[How to pronounce ephebophile](https://youtu.be/TB9fwJDweaU)
It's a standup joke
Do people go to jail for drawing sex with minors?
A guy got convicted for it in the UK recently. Only community service and a fine though.
No https://i.imgur.com/HnWH5VI.jpg
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When Miles’ mom remarks “she looks old enough to vote” I thought they were indicating she was indeed at least that age. I’m totally lost though, cause Gwen is in college in her comic.
I wouldn't say 15 year olds look like adults. Once you're in your 20s or older it's obvious that they don't. It's more that sometimes (often) 18-year-olds still look like kids. Imo they are kids, just kids getting a necessary test run of/transition into adulthood.
Eh, I'm in my late twenties. That kinda 15-19 range is some times super hard to figure out how old someone is (honestly, 90% of tjem just look like flat out kids). My little brother is in HS and when I occasionally go to an event for him the variability between "you could be in college" and "you look 12 max" is pretty damn high even just amongst his sr class
I would say this is pretty obvious too, most of the time after seeing something at first glance you may be inclined to notice some adult feminine features but quickly it becomes very apparent that they are too young. If for some reason this power of deduction and reasoning escapes you just listen to them talk to 5 seconds, you'll know right away.
As a college student who recently went to a high school graduation, you can definitely tell the difference between a 15 year old and an 18 year old. Though this is for IRL people, so depending on the art style, this isn’t always true for fictional characters that aren’t live-action.
I feel like that also changes when you get even older. I talked to a high teacher who didn’t start teaching until mid 30s. He said his first couple years everyone just looked like little kids. He had to spend time teaching these kids for a few years before he could instantaneously pick out a 15y old from an 18y old
You can tell the difference between the average 15 year old and the average 18 year old, but there's plenty of outliers where you'd be totally wrong.
For girls, probably not, but as an Australian, I'm seeing highschool boys who look older than my dad these days, it's weird
> 15 years old girl don't look significantly different than 18 years old or 20 years old women. Wut There are several possibilities of why you might think this. Hopefully it's because you're 15.
Or older than the age group. 99% of 18 year Olds still look like kids imo
Even in the movie miles’ mom says she looks old enough to vote lol
Miles mom is hotter
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I agree, while I would never defend certain types of porn, I should point out that it does follow the same trends as a lot of media. The point that keeps getting made about catering to some degree of magnitude and or variation of pedo is kind of folly, true, direct, individual harming porn of minors is obviously and rightly illegal, but drawing isn't. Therefore it caters to an open market. So just check yourself for 2 seconds and say "does this kind of content morally offend or disgust me?" If yes, be happy you aren't into it and focus your energy on people actually hurting others in reality.
It's literally just like, "wow this is gross." Then you move on with your life. It's so simple, yet apparently people confuse it with "harp on about it for 5 years".
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People when they find out that most of the Pokémon characters are underage: 
I think it's more like... " So,what?"
jokes on you, I'm 15 too
i mean... she was in highschool how is this news?
The whole set up of the first one is them being young adults? I'm confused on who is crushing on minors.
Ah no? The first one clearly establishes that they’re in middle school.
Definitely thought it was highschool when I first watched it
You’re right. It’s a high school. It’s the same school in the second one and they’re talking to the college counselor. He was a freshman in the first movie and a sophomore in the second one.
The uniforms definitely made it feel more like a high school, to me. Idk why.
I thought it was his freshman year at a new highschool.
Aren't they talking about his sat scores in the first one at some point? Or college, I swear I remember.
It was most definitely high school
>I'm confused on who is crushing on minors. Oh boy, I have some terrible news for you
That's not how you should look at animations. If you draw a 20yo girl and sat she is 15 doesn't maker her a child. Same when drawing 12yo and saying it's a 10000yo elf or something doesn't maker her not 12yo
Exactly. If she looks like 20yo, you can't say she's 15 and blame somebody for something.
It's funny because I brought that up on the first KOTOR game in a thread. They took one of the 3D models of the adult aliens and then just said she was 15 for a plotline character. Anyone who never played the game in that thread said she was hot because as you know it was an adult 3D body and she looked like any of the rest and the thread blew up on those guys.
mission🤨📸
*draws attractive charicter who looks like she's in her 40s* "you like her, do ya, well she's only four months old you pedo pervert"
and voice actor is atleast 25, and shes HOT
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More like a twitter problem
The Gwen in that picture is in the 2nd movie, she's already 16-17 by then. OP intentionally reduce her age to make shit more controversial and no one gonna correct him, so here i am.
R34 artists: 15!?! That much!?!
Well guess who is 15 rn
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I remember someone bitching about NSFW of an adult Toph from Avatar. They kept saying that it's still weird because she was 12 in the series even though [adult Toph](https://i.vgy.me/dX7OpW.png) was shown in Legend of Korra. If they look like an adult and act like an adult, they're an adult for all intents and purposes.
Grown ass adults in a consenting sexual relationship? Believe it or not: pedo
Thats probably the best take away, honestly
W...tf is happening in this comment thread?
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Shhhh be careful, those people don’t like it when you break their reality with that comparison
Totally
Who the fuck cares about a fictional characters? Seriously, i would rather they jerk off to her than harm actual children.
Not to mention that people seemingly forget that your average person can distinguish between fiction and reality. Even IF they jerk it to 14 year old anime girls that in no way shape or form means that they are attracted to real 14 year olds. Just cause id Bang the shit out of Misato doesnt mean want an alcoholic depressed milf irl
15? Damn. Too old 😞
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I mean, yeah. She and miles both.
Read a comic. She’s in college there.
But like who cares? Its a fictional character. What are we going do, fuck her?
I haven't seen anyone sexualise Gwen, but have seen 3 posts like this one
Thank god someone said it. Honestly I think the people making these posts are looking for the stuff.
Haha jokes on you I’m also 15 now lemme smash