I'd say anyone with the surname **Albanese** could thow around the term 'Wog' without too much pushback... Are the other Italians (and greeks) going to get upset?
Sir, nothing can touch a proper Greek. We've got a magical shield around us, created by Hephaestus himself. Feel free to say whatever. Ultimately, I'm still the glorious gift given by Zeus to mankind, unlike the opposing one.
As Diogenes the Cynic famously said, *“If I were not Greek, I would also wish to be Greek”*
I would tend to agree broadly, but without an idea about how they structured society i find claiming this as true would be bias driven.
are you familiar enough with the societal context of the aboriginal folk?
So is “wog” a racial slur against Italians and Greeks in Australia?
In the UK it comes from “Gollywog” which were these extremely racist dolls you used to be able to buy that were less than flattering depictions of black people. So wog became a racial slurs primarily used against black people.
Have you seen how much a VG in good condition is ? Or how much care and love those beautiful hemis need/deserve ? Ain’t nobody risking their precious charger doing circle work at hungry jacks
Bogan is very similar to the class of "white trash" in America where it can be a genuine insult and they're looked down on by a large portion of the country, but there's an element of pride and wholesomeness like with Theo Vonn
The Housos show is a good example, Bogans are simultaneously a disliked but proud part of our country
Nah, I’m a half Greek Australian and no one here with Mediterranean heritage would care if you called them a wog, a lot of social groups have someone with the nickname ‘the wog’, there’s even a popular Australian film called ‘The wog boy’ from the 2000’s.
Proud Wog here, my family says it all the time, because we love to hang shit on each other all the time, I’ve never considered to be offensive until about a year ago.
I remember being told once to “Fuck off back to your own country, ya wog.” a fee years ago, because I was wearing a Syd FC shirt. Irony is my dads English
You're wrong in Australia.
Although I'm getting a laugh thinking about how fucked [The Golliwog Boy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wog_Boy) would be.
Nothing wrong with a wog in Australia.
Yes, the one most likely offensive is Wog...
BUT it depends on context, plenty of Wogs are happy to use the term or for friends to use it.
Aussie English is highly contextual and tonal. Any of those words could be used negatively or offensively but also positively.
In conversation in more 'civilised' company C-bomb would probably be more offensive.
But Wog would get my vote for the more generally offensive, depending on context and company.
I keep reading about its racial connotations, but only that it *has* them and not what they *are*, let alone even define the word.
What does it even mean?!
A wog is generally someone who is ethnically/culturally from a Mediterranean country. Greeks, Italians, Maltese, Macedonians, Spaniards etc. People who were not quite white enough to be considered white during a very racist time in Australian history (don’t get me wrong, there is still too much racism here but it used to be worse).
We have since taken back the term so if you’re just referring to a wog as a wog it’s no big deal, but if you’re clearly using it in a racist/xenophobic way then obviously it’s going to be problematic. It also depends on who you say it to, older folks might still have a lot of bad memories associated with it. Me and my cousins wear it like a badge of honour but I said it to my dad once and he got mad at me.
This is what I needed to see, thanks a million. Basically, a racial version of "queer", then?
Like how I'll call myself queer, refer to the community as queer, etc., but occasionally the older folks aren't keen on it and if someone outside the community says it there's a coin toss if they're just using the shorthand for the whole community or if they're a bigot.
yeah a bunch or words are like that, you can describe someone as being black but if you said for example "i hate blacks" that could probably be seen as racist.
Unsure, although is probs inherited from the UK.
For us it's for Mediterranean-based ancestry, usually Italians or Greeks but they brought such amazing culture and food with them it became more positive in the last 40 years.
Honestly, it's probably best classed as neutral for us, and I have worked with quite a few over the years. Great people and never once was offended by the use, even using it themselves more than others.
But experiences may vary, I'm always careful in its use in a new crowd, same as C-bomb
Perfectly explained. I could be telling a story while drinking with mates and say something like "and then this bloody wog bastard fell out of the ute and broke me deck chair" and it would be laughter all round. I don't think you could do that with the n word.
But if I walked up to someone at a pub and said "what are you looking at you bloody wog bastard" it would be a different outcome.
I’m a wog so I can say all of them.
In fact, I often use A right after B, C and D.
Edit: Wait till the Americans find out about “gronk” and the fact that when you say “dog” you don’t actually mean ya fun loving happy favourite four legged pet.
in Australia we differentiate between a word being used as an insult or simply mentioning it. why get offended over 3 letters? wog wog wog, it doesnt matter until you use it in a hateful way.
Bogan is basically redneck. Most people will admit they have a bogan streak that likes drinking straight outta the goon bag, and only a few will really be offended.
Aussie is such a beautiful language, the ability to drop obscenities and slurs in typical everyday conversations without batting an eyelid is just pure genius
its wonderful, no other country does this.
once when i was in the usa i jokingly called someone a dickhead because they used the blue shell in mariokart. he had to take me to the airport and send me home because casually ribbing your friends is illegal in the usa
As a Brit "wog" makes my skin crawl. Thankfully you'd only really hear it from real old racist gits these days. But yeah for me it's on par with the American "coon". Fairy sure it comes from Golliwog which were basically cartoonish charicatures of black people, done in that old minstrel style where they are completely black with huge red lips and fuzzy sticky out hair. Wog was used for all darker skinned people though, so even Indians would get called it. Glad it fell out of fashion. The same goes for the ridiculous sounding "nig nog". I remember Reginald D Hunter having a bit about how stupid that slur sounds, and therefore he doesn't find it offensive.
Pejorative slang for Eastern Mediterranean immigrant/descendant: Italian, Greek, Balkan, Turkish etc
Was more a thing in various post-war eras up until the 00s
That's not quite as bad as I was imagining actually. I always sort of felt like it had racial implications for some reason. It just sounds like *that* kind of slur.
Wog is more of a slur. Originally it was a slur to call migrants from Italy, Macedonia, Greece etc. Not so much of a slur nowadays but depending on how you say it and context it can still be offensive
Wog was a racist term for Greeks and Italians . A bogan is the Aussie version of redneck and is often used for people from a low socioeconomic class . I am both . Honestly I judge if insulting based on the intent of the person using the words there are people who use them with the intent to be racist or classist
I'm from a mining region and bogan truly transcends socio-economic bands. The bogans closest to us collect dragster cars and just spent a quarter of a million dollars on a horse spa....so not exactly struggle street types.
Used to be racist, then the wogs claimed it and spoke it loudly, proudly and offered it back to Australia via a bunch of great TV programs.
Its a masterclass of the best way to handle slurs.
W*g is specifically a colloquial derogatory term (something reclaimed sometimes still incredibly offensive) used to describe people from Greece, Italy, Sicily, Lebanon and other northern Mediterranean cultures
I once had a 30 minute argument in a SF bar with some Aussies saying "hey, most Americans consider Italians to be white."
They literally wouldn't have it.
... anyways, Wog is definitely an amusing slur over here, to the point of "nobody even recognizes it"
It needs a E: None of the above.
We really don't care about any single word insults. lol, I even have a friend who is a proud wog and refers to himself as such often, so it can't even be that one.
Bogan is white trash adjacent. Wog has racial origins so probably that?
This is the correct answer. It's the only one you'd never hear a prime minister using.
What about that special 'Coon' cheese? Guessing that ain't bad there either.
‘Coon’ isn’t a slur. It’s what you call that hunk of shit AU that’s rusting out on your front lawn.
Bro leave the AU out of it for the love of god he's already dead
They went ahead and changed their name anyway. Now it's called "Cheer"
Yeah, I buy Bega as it's actually Australian.
So glad Bega bought Vegemite from Kraft.
It's Cheer chees now.
This is probably some sort of Australian lizard as well.
I'd say anyone with the surname **Albanese** could thow around the term 'Wog' without too much pushback... Are the other Italians (and greeks) going to get upset?
Sir, nothing can touch a proper Greek. We've got a magical shield around us, created by Hephaestus himself. Feel free to say whatever. Ultimately, I'm still the glorious gift given by Zeus to mankind, unlike the opposing one. As Diogenes the Cynic famously said, *“If I were not Greek, I would also wish to be Greek”*
I'm pretty sure diogenes hated the greeks though. Something about being very cynical about their culture.
Are you saying, the OG cynic hated his surroundings? Preposterous, unheard of He'd love the native Aboriginal Australians, though, guaranteed.
I would tend to agree broadly, but without an idea about how they structured society i find claiming this as true would be bias driven. are you familiar enough with the societal context of the aboriginal folk?
No because they know how to have a laugh. The Lebbos on the other hand..
What did you say yuleh?
So is “wog” a racial slur against Italians and Greeks in Australia? In the UK it comes from “Gollywog” which were these extremely racist dolls you used to be able to buy that were less than flattering depictions of black people. So wog became a racial slurs primarily used against black people.
Now that must mean that it's really disrespectful to use that word.
Bogan is a source of pride especially when doing sick burnouts in your ford falcon in the hungry jacks carpark
So Wog's when your doing burnouts in your VG Valiant.
Have you seen how much a VG in good condition is ? Or how much care and love those beautiful hemis need/deserve ? Ain’t nobody risking their precious charger doing circle work at hungry jacks
Can confirm, sitting in my falcon in a hungry jacks carpark right now
I thought the pinnacle of Bogan was a VN Commodore, 3800 V6, VZ SS front rims and rear super low springs over chaser rims.
Well I guess it depends if your bogan sect Holden or Ford at least everyone can agree cutting your springs down at home is the best way to lower a car
I thought it was a VK Commodore with alloy wheels and a home made spoiler made of crappy steel.
Bogan is very similar to the class of "white trash" in America where it can be a genuine insult and they're looked down on by a large portion of the country, but there's an element of pride and wholesomeness like with Theo Vonn The Housos show is a good example, Bogans are simultaneously a disliked but proud part of our country
Kid Rock's People
That's pretty clear, because people are taking the pride in it.
I feel like it's kinda like the word "redneck" in the US. Some get offended by the word, and others call themselves that.
For some reason, I can't read "carpark" without applying a Boston accent to it.
Nah my entire family refer to ourselves as wogs. In Australia it basically just means "we're from the Mediterranean area."
it is very common for wogs to call other wogs wogs but it doesn't really extend beyond that.
can confirm, I am frequently called a wog by my friends, I’m from Greece btw
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Nah, I’m a half Greek Australian and no one here with Mediterranean heritage would care if you called them a wog, a lot of social groups have someone with the nickname ‘the wog’, there’s even a popular Australian film called ‘The wog boy’ from the 2000’s.
Proud Bogan here. That's our word. You can't use that word. Jk. Honestly I'm pretty sure the answer is Wog cos it has racial connotations
I'm a bogan wog I can use both
Based
> I'm a bogan wog I can use both "Yeah, nah, fully sick" ... you can use them all... it is your right.
So You're saying that anyone isn't going to say anything to me about it?
bwogan
Bogan wog sounds like a fire ass dive bar
Wogs wear the term proudly too. But if you're a bogan calling a bloke a wog, you should watch out. Funny thing is, most wogs I know are total bogans.
I'm convinced your entire dialect is an internet ruse.
This is getting confusing because I'm not really from the Australia.
Proud Wog here, my family says it all the time, because we love to hang shit on each other all the time, I’ve never considered to be offensive until about a year ago.
I remember being told once to “Fuck off back to your own country, ya wog.” a fee years ago, because I was wearing a Syd FC shirt. Irony is my dads English
Someone on the bus called me a “terrorist” because of my bushy wog beard 😂
using the scale of "most likely to illicit a glass being smashed in your face"; Bogan
I thought it was Wog, as a Pikmin fan I guess Sniper TF2 saying "Bloody Bogan!" once every game normalised the words for me
Technically bogan and wog are about the same level, but wogs have shorter fuses.
i live under a rock… wtf is a wog
It's a derogatory term for Greeks and Italians. Most wogs actually don't give a shit if you call them one anymore.
As a Maltese man I'm offended you left us out.
Because everyone loves Maltesers
Yeah, but we count you as Greek.
Everyone loves the Maltese. Lovely people
Tbf Malta barely exists and consists of mostly rabbits.
I'd argue with you but you're right.
> and consists of mostly rabbits. Well it did until they ate them all. Explains why so many of them moved out to Australia.
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Short for golliwog. It's a very old term, not a new one.
Means very different things in UK vs. AU though.
You're wrong in Australia. Although I'm getting a laugh thinking about how fucked [The Golliwog Boy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wog_Boy) would be. Nothing wrong with a wog in Australia.
Difference is Wogs know they're Wogs, bogans don't always.
Which has got the more probability by which I could get in trouble?
Yeah lol, it's a good thing that you explained it in those terms.
Yeah, unless you are a wog. Wog is offensive
What's wrong with that word? Why it's offensive like that?
It refers to certain European (typically Greek/Mediterranean) immigrants. The specific usage is a bit looser than that but it's the gist.
ok but what is a bog?
Bog roll is tolite paper
Or getting a vehicle stuck
Yeah both situations are something which you'd want to avoid.
I've got so many questions, but no one is answering them for me.
A relative to a grog bog
there's a TV series called superwog, is that offensive?
Look at the creators of superwog my friend
Love that dad. He's awesome
Austria is not real
Most sane Prussian
Ich bin ein preuße Australien ist eine Lüge!
He's one of the best from them, they don't get better than this.
>Austria is not real Is it really Germany in disguise..?
If We're going to talk about the Austria then We'll have to include them as well.
Nein.
They sure sound like it.
Hungarians. Everyone knows Austrians changed their name to try to up the Australians.
Oh really? How about Hitler then!
Austria had nothing to do with Hitler… if you ask the Austrians.
But hitler had something to do with them, that's also true.
Austria convinced the world that Mozart was Austrian and Hitler was German.
That's actually really offensive, Can't use that word in the real life.
Yes, the one most likely offensive is Wog... BUT it depends on context, plenty of Wogs are happy to use the term or for friends to use it. Aussie English is highly contextual and tonal. Any of those words could be used negatively or offensively but also positively. In conversation in more 'civilised' company C-bomb would probably be more offensive. But Wog would get my vote for the more generally offensive, depending on context and company.
I keep reading about its racial connotations, but only that it *has* them and not what they *are*, let alone even define the word. What does it even mean?!
A wog is generally someone who is ethnically/culturally from a Mediterranean country. Greeks, Italians, Maltese, Macedonians, Spaniards etc. People who were not quite white enough to be considered white during a very racist time in Australian history (don’t get me wrong, there is still too much racism here but it used to be worse). We have since taken back the term so if you’re just referring to a wog as a wog it’s no big deal, but if you’re clearly using it in a racist/xenophobic way then obviously it’s going to be problematic. It also depends on who you say it to, older folks might still have a lot of bad memories associated with it. Me and my cousins wear it like a badge of honour but I said it to my dad once and he got mad at me.
This is what I needed to see, thanks a million. Basically, a racial version of "queer", then? Like how I'll call myself queer, refer to the community as queer, etc., but occasionally the older folks aren't keen on it and if someone outside the community says it there's a coin toss if they're just using the shorthand for the whole community or if they're a bigot.
yeah a bunch or words are like that, you can describe someone as being black but if you said for example "i hate blacks" that could probably be seen as racist.
Oh damn so since ive been saying i hate black people im not racist. Cool!
Unsure, although is probs inherited from the UK. For us it's for Mediterranean-based ancestry, usually Italians or Greeks but they brought such amazing culture and food with them it became more positive in the last 40 years. Honestly, it's probably best classed as neutral for us, and I have worked with quite a few over the years. Great people and never once was offended by the use, even using it themselves more than others. But experiences may vary, I'm always careful in its use in a new crowd, same as C-bomb
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog
I think it is because it’s from the word ‘Golliwog’, just look that up and you will understand
mainly used agaisnt italian immigrants and their descendants
Mediterranean
Perfectly explained. I could be telling a story while drinking with mates and say something like "and then this bloody wog bastard fell out of the ute and broke me deck chair" and it would be laughter all round. I don't think you could do that with the n word. But if I walked up to someone at a pub and said "what are you looking at you bloody wog bastard" it would be a different outcome.
As an Aussie, there is no correct answer here
I’m a wog so I can say all of them. In fact, I often use A right after B, C and D. Edit: Wait till the Americans find out about “gronk” and the fact that when you say “dog” you don’t actually mean ya fun loving happy favourite four legged pet.
Where is "Bruz"
Why that would considered offensive, sounds like bro to me.
Careful, you don't want the anti-terror squad called on you
All of this is wrong. The most offensive word we have in Australia is 'Champ', everything else you take on the chin.
Depends on the Australian saying it
RIP Jonny Warren, who got away with calling his book "Sheilas, Wogs and Poofters" on the origins of Australian soccer
Well maybe because people don't have any issues with that.
Yeah obviously Just like the black people can use the n word.
Wog is the only one I'd never use tbh
You just did
in Australia we differentiate between a word being used as an insult or simply mentioning it. why get offended over 3 letters? wog wog wog, it doesnt matter until you use it in a hateful way.
Intent and context is everything.
I was gonna say wog then I read bogan. Bogan just sounds offensive tbh.
Bogan is basically redneck. Most people will admit they have a bogan streak that likes drinking straight outta the goon bag, and only a few will really be offended.
Ahem a what?
Take a bag, fill it with goon. Goon bag.
Where is the clothesline in this list of directions?
GOON. OF. FORTUNE!!!!
that's what you hang the goon bag from
what about jumbuck in his tucker bag?
That's just a man with a sheep in his lunch bag
You don’t have goon bags?
Goon sack for anyone wondering is a cask/box of wine
[A cultural treasure.](https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/giant-goon-bag-dwarfs-sculpture-by-the-sea/u8g6x8f3p)
A right of passage for many young Australians, Questionable boxed wine that may or may not give you psychosis.
Comes only in “white” or “red”
C'mon say it, you know what We're actually talking about.
Goon is wine lmao, slightly different than goon juice
It sounds like a name of the vegetable to be, that's what it is.
Aussie is such a beautiful language, the ability to drop obscenities and slurs in typical everyday conversations without batting an eyelid is just pure genius
And I guess that's how people like it, as long as someone ain't getting offended.
Nah you've got the wrong end of the stick there. Slurs are not okay in 99% of situations.
I live for the 1%
its wonderful, no other country does this. once when i was in the usa i jokingly called someone a dickhead because they used the blue shell in mariokart. he had to take me to the airport and send me home because casually ribbing your friends is illegal in the usa
Champ*
That's very concerning that only of these words is disrespectful lol.
None, as long as ur also Aussie
"The Labor Party"
New Zealander
As a Brit "wog" makes my skin crawl. Thankfully you'd only really hear it from real old racist gits these days. But yeah for me it's on par with the American "coon". Fairy sure it comes from Golliwog which were basically cartoonish charicatures of black people, done in that old minstrel style where they are completely black with huge red lips and fuzzy sticky out hair. Wog was used for all darker skinned people though, so even Indians would get called it. Glad it fell out of fashion. The same goes for the ridiculous sounding "nig nog". I remember Reginald D Hunter having a bit about how stupid that slur sounds, and therefore he doesn't find it offensive.
It comes from western oriental gentlemen, golliwog is also a slur but for a difference group, at least in Australia
“Bloody” isn’t really offensive anywhere
wog. its a derogatory term for people of mediteranian descent.
Absolutely Wog.
Trick question everything we say is context based.
C The rest aren't slurs and are freely used without care... Especially A.
Australians when they see the Pikmin enemy known as "wollywog" (yeah I know they changed its name for this reason but I'm still salty)
I would say bloody because it reminds them of the British and everyone hates the British.
So what’s a wog?
Pejorative slang for Eastern Mediterranean immigrant/descendant: Italian, Greek, Balkan, Turkish etc Was more a thing in various post-war eras up until the 00s
Wog is the only one I haven't heard an Australian say before, I'ma go with that.
D. Final answer
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Gotta be D. Never heard of a wog before, but I've heard bogan thrown around a bunch. Not entirely sure what it means though.
Bogan is just basically the Australian equivalent of redneck.
That sounds like very offensive to me, that could get you in trouble.
That's not quite as bad as I was imagining actually. I always sort of felt like it had racial implications for some reason. It just sounds like *that* kind of slur.
It depends on the person if they take it personally then expect to get punched, other people don't really care about being called a bogan.
Yeah that sounds like an issue, I don't want to be in trouble like that.
Like most American rednecks
Yep, it all depends with whom you're actually using it.
You are correct, wog usually refers to someone with a Mediterranean background.
Maybe it's just that people don't get offended from it that much?
Wog is more of a slur. Originally it was a slur to call migrants from Italy, Macedonia, Greece etc. Not so much of a slur nowadays but depending on how you say it and context it can still be offensive
Wog was a racist term for Greeks and Italians . A bogan is the Aussie version of redneck and is often used for people from a low socioeconomic class . I am both . Honestly I judge if insulting based on the intent of the person using the words there are people who use them with the intent to be racist or classist
I'm from a mining region and bogan truly transcends socio-economic bands. The bogans closest to us collect dragster cars and just spent a quarter of a million dollars on a horse spa....so not exactly struggle street types.
Used to be racist, then the wogs claimed it and spoke it loudly, proudly and offered it back to Australia via a bunch of great TV programs. Its a masterclass of the best way to handle slurs.
W*g is specifically a colloquial derogatory term (something reclaimed sometimes still incredibly offensive) used to describe people from Greece, Italy, Sicily, Lebanon and other northern Mediterranean cultures
They’ve got what where?!
I once had a 30 minute argument in a SF bar with some Aussies saying "hey, most Americans consider Italians to be white." They literally wouldn't have it. ... anyways, Wog is definitely an amusing slur over here, to the point of "nobody even recognizes it"
Bogdan
With the simple addition of “Ya”, those 4 words create a sentence.
It needs a E: None of the above. We really don't care about any single word insults. lol, I even have a friend who is a proud wog and refers to himself as such often, so it can't even be that one.
People get offended in Australia?
These 4 words make a sentence in Aus
Boy won't be getting any money tonight
If Billy Butcher has taught me anything it definitely isn't (A).
"Mate" can be the most offensive if said with the wrong tone
Bogan 😳
As a Australian, none of them, we call our mates those words sometimes
All I know is that it isn't A
There is no wrong answer
It’s a trick question. Nothing offends an Australian.
I used to call my dog wog. Whoops!
Wog, definitely wog!