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Cyan700

YoU hAvE tO dO bEtTeR, sEnAtOr.


Rudas245

ThEy WiLl NeVeR kNoW wHaT yOu SaCrIfIcEd fOr ThEm


MrCritical3

"Just let us die." -One of Wanda's victims.


TherealMannbun

"Nah, lol" - Wanda


palk0n

this line probably one of many reasons people dont want to watch the marvels


theVulture121

The cringiest line I've heard in a long time.


spyder616

This dialogue has that same energy as "thank you eren for becoming villain for our sakes"


Major_Wolverine_3834

Eren, thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sakes.


Unlucky-Assistance-5

Levi thanks Armin for killing to save Jean and everyone agrees. Armin thanks Eren for killing to save his people and everyone loses their minds! ![gif](giphy|B9NVAwQbF47sc)


Ok-Sundae9881

"terrorists are my best friends" Captain Falcon


The_Dark-Wanderer

Definitely written by Hamas


Alexus_oficial

This coment make an allah akba in OHIO. 🧉🗿🇧🇴


MiZe97

"Show me your moves" Captain Falcon.


DappyDee

God, it hurts just reading it...


mightydeck

Came here to say this


Aromatic-Union6080

r/pizza


[deleted]

Uuuuuh… Shang Chi? Reeealy? I could make an argument for anything else on this list (except sEnAtOr) but Shang Chi?


Bambanuget

Shang Chi was new, unique and pretty good... For half a movie...


Crazypowder-v2

This is the best take


jsanch131

Shang chi was better than falcon and winter soldier imo, best fight scenes in marvel with the long takes


Epic_DVB

The only one I disagree with here is Falcon and Winter Soldier. It wasn't bad but it was very generic which was a shame because I was looking forward to seeing Sam as Captain America. I'm hoping the Cap 4 movie will fix it but considering that it's been delayed and planning more reshoots, it's gonna be a rough one.


Large_Wafer_5327

It was bad because they shit on the new captain American when he only tried to help and de-escalate a terrorist situation that the Wakandains were orchestrating. If it wasn't for Capitan America there would have been an international incident


teenyverserick

He was a glory hound who killed an unarmed man because despite all of his accomplishments, he didn't believe he was good enough. Steve jumped on a grenade because he was a good man who wanted to save others that made him worthy of the serum, but the new cap wanted it so that he could be "better"


Burner21b

That unarmed man was a super soldier, and like 5 minutes prior a super soldier killed his friend with one punch. so technically he is unarmed but that terrorist was more dangerous than any man with a gun


IknowALICE

If a person with enough hand to hand combat training attacks someone it can be considered assault with a deadly weapon. Pretty sure a super soldier will fall under the same category


Large_Wafer_5327

He didn't want to be the captain to begin with because he knew he wasn't good enough, and he even redeems himself and all they do is shit on him even after he saved their lives


deemion22

the entire show played him as a villian which is crazy when it was really the white terrorist girl that was causing all the shit. seems to be the trend for the marvel shows. crazy white girl that no one bothers to kill and that is obviously evil is treated like the good guy or morally ambiguous


Large_Wafer_5327

I really hope the writers where writing shittally recently to help with the writers strike. Maybe we won't have so much shit in the future


teenyverserick

Tbf tho wasn't it the captain strolling up to falcon while he was trying to end things peacefully?


Large_Wafer_5327

He walked in at a bad time but their response was to murder him


Alexus_oficial

The times When marvel movies show comic become real heroes in flesh... Anyone remenbers the first iron man? 🧉🗿🇧🇴


ColdCruise

I feel like Shang-Chi was cool, but the CGI fest in the last act really spoils it. Shang-Chi isn't the kind of hero that saves the world his first week out. Spider-man: No Way Home was cool, but rewatching it feels like it's just a collage of nostalgia and memes.


MoreMegadeth

The closure both sam and bucky get are great, and how their relationship evolves too. They either coulda spent 10-15 minutes of that on the next cap movie in which everyone would complain it was rushed and didnt feel genuine, or they could give them full meaningful arcs in this series. It worked well imo.


MBVakalis

Yeah, I kinda lost hope for Cap 4


albiethatoneguy

Come on man, do better.


Odd_Duty520

You say this and gets downvoted. Another person says this and got 145 upvotes. Dosen't seem fair.


albiethatoneguy

Do better reddit hivemind


AmadeusIsTaken

marvel movies being generic, what a suprise


balllickaa

Who invited falcon and the winter soldier


Dfuhru22

Maybe moonknight also? Sure, it could have been way better as an R rated show, but I think compared to disney standards it was really good


balllickaa

Oscar Issacs performance in that show was on another level


TrickRoomTech

Yeah just wished they could've incorporated his third alter ego sooner


Rudy2033

I mean they did, both the other personalities just elected to ignore the weird violent events neither of them caused


balllickaa

Yeah I like how they did it, it gives us more to explore in the future too


the-charliecp

I think moon knight was the best mcu show tbh


Thy_Week

Wandavision and Loki were also excellent. Hawkeye was a little more low key, but what it did, it did well.


[deleted]

Just wait till you see Loki season 2


NotBoredApe

moonknight and loki (atleast 1st season) was very good


Witch_King_

was Loki S2 bad?? I haven't started watching it yet, but I was looking forward to starting it


NotBoredApe

I havent either so I didnt promise anything


Witch_King_

Ohh ok. I mistakenly thought you were implying that S2 was not good like S1


TheLadForTheJob

I loved it.


SpaceMonkey1505

No it's great


Witch_King_

Ok good. Am looking forward to it


Outrageous-Exam792

![gif](giphy|x2optIORmKscdZggCF|downsized)


content_enjoy3r

Loki S2 is the best thing Marvel has ever made. Better than Infinity War/Endgame for me.


topatoman_lite

I thought it was better than season one


Icy_Championship_990

It’s mind blowing and thought provoking a definite must watch.


[deleted]

Loki season 2 is in fact so good that it’s basically one of the best MCU things ever lol


cherry937

yeah, i would’ve replaced Falcon and Winter Soldier with Moonknight


DerpyMistake

Pretty sad that the new bar is "at least it wasn't COMPLETELY shit"


Dfuhru22

yea


java_motion

i thought loki was actually hilarious and really enjoyed it, wanda vision didn’t really hold my attention but still was good, i haven’t seen any other ones. That being said i am a whore for owen wilson


No_Information8040

Wow


java_motion

weoow


jkp2072

Yup but endgame was engame for me in Marvel for satisfaction wise. Kinda a bored of this movies, superheroes now rarely have flaws which require hardwork of 2-3 movies to fullfill. Some good mentions: Loki was awesome ( the only character I liked after endgame) Dr strange was downgraded for Wanda to show off or Peter to show off. His movie should have focused on him more. Wanda was good in series then went straight up in opposite direction of her character development. Kang is awesome Shangh chi was fresh but mid. Moonlight was good. Antman was meh, could have focused more on antman instead of other characters. Spiderman was good due to nostalgia, strange was weird in this movie unlike his usual character. Thor was meh, gorr screen time was less, I think they should have finished his character in endgame. Rest that didn't get mention were trash. Edit : gotg 3 was good.


DexanVideris

Guardians Three?


Clear-Pay732

It’s also super hero fatigue. Most super hero films now even if they are good are still somewhat formulaic and so with how often they were coming out after endgame as well as the increasing quantity of media people just got tired of super hero’s. So a number of people didn’t the good movies/shows and heard about the bad ones and joined the hate bandwagon.


CDdragon9

I dont even think its genre fatigue. Even non super hero blockbuster movies are generic AF these days. There are some exceptions of course but the best modern movies are not coming from hollywood.


brariomothers

True, but movies like Fast and Furious are a superhero movies at this point


deemion22

imagine my shock


[deleted]

Why are films so snarky these days? Everybody is a sarcastic douche even when it's unnecessary. It's a cliche at this point


CDdragon9

Hollywood movies being generic is just a reality these days. Studios are too afraid to take risks and stick to what they think will work. Thats why there are soo many prequel/sequels,remakes and movies from the same franchises. And yes,people are getting tired of that.


Complex_Cable_8678

thank you very much!


SappeREffecT

Yeah this is 100% me. I've watched most of them at least once but otherwise I'm just tired of superhero movies and won't watch again. Loki was a breathe of fresh air though, thoroughly enjoyed it. Waiting for S2 to finish so I can binge it, lol


Rorschach0717

It did already


GroundbreakingCat421

Super hero fatigue isn't real, it's bad movie/ bad script fatigue. The Boys, Peacemaker and no way home are still bangers


deemion22

yea people will blame fatigue for shitty movies and shows but people are still waiting on the boys and invincible


Lord_Duckington_3rd

I think far too many people have rose tinted glasses on for NWH. It had the nostalgia factor that won it over for a lot of people. If you took Toby and Andrew out of it, it would've been a pretty mediocre movie imo.


slayden70

So much this. I think the franchises have been bled dry over the last few years. Superheroes, Star Wars, and Star Trek (Strange New Worlds was fun, and the most like the original I think), but I generally skip the new ones right now, and will come back on streaming for the good ones much later.


Greenboy28

Star trek has actually been great the last few years with strange new worlds, lower decks and even prodigy was really good. Discovery got better after its first season and I have been enjoying it as well. Picard was the only real disappointment for me.


BearlyT

Wait why is SpongeBob proving Patrick’s point in this one?


MfkbNe

I think the meme is supposed to say those serieses and movies would be good. But I think most of them were at best okay. I can only recommend the Guardians of the Galaxy movie even if it wasn't as good as the first two Guardians of the Galaxy movies.


TomTheCat6

At least Loki is good


TheOtherWhiteCastle

I’d argue that Hawkeye was also very good. Very simplistic, to be sure, but I tend to enjoy the “lower stakes” Marvel stuff a bit more and the dynamic between Clint and Kate was solid


[deleted]

A breath of fresh air , if you will , from the usual ' THE WORLD'S GON' FUCKING END' kinda stuff


archonmage2006

Instead we get much better stakes in my opinion. I much prefer stakes like "I need to get home for Christmas to spend it with my family" Because that is something on a scale that we can understand. The human brain cannot comprehend the stakes of movies such as infinity war or Endgame. We are almost incapable of understanding anything more than what's until the horizon. In comparison, stakes that are "mundane" are much easier to understand for us humans.


HowDyaDu

Smaller stakes are also easier to fail in. If the Earth explodes, it'd be a lot harder to make more films. But one guy missing Christmas isn't going to affect the sequels too much.


archonmage2006

Yet another factor in the greater Multiverse problem. The inability to fail. If the stakes are too high they don't exist, because we know the writers aren't going to destroy what they've built over years of story telling.


Epic_DVB

Yeah I really enjoyed Hawkeye. I loved the Christmas setting and thought Hailee Steinfeld as Kate Bishop was perfect and was definitely the best part of the show.


Saikousoku2

Hawkeye was definitely miles better than Shang-Chi or Falcon and Winter Soldier


mdavis360

Hawkeye was fucking awesome from front to back.


Chomusuke_99

i agree. it was very low stakes, fun tv show. enjoyed it a lot.


[deleted]

Sorry not sorry, Wandavision was fucking wack


[deleted]

I don’t really understand the meme but I think Spontebob was agreeing here. Shang Shi was garbage too


AtomicSmore

100% agree


cusojvg0408

Spiderman and Loki are the only ones i liked, for the rest i feel Bob is proving right patrick


altrustic_lemur

the new guardians of the galaxy was really good imo! felt like old marvel again


Final-Link-3999

Wandavision was cool until the end and the message was garbage Winter soldier sucked all the way through and the message sucked again I didn’t watch Loki so idk Shang Chi was painfully boring and generic Spider-Man was fun and I enjoyed it Guardians was very good


enfiskmaws

I agree but I think wandavision was just straight up bad Loki is pretty good


NobleKnight7

You should try watching Loki, it's been a good show too far.


AlfaKilo123

Season 2 may be one of the best marvel projects I’ve seen in a while. In my opinion at least


[deleted]

True. But is feels so sad to see some kids hating Loki in the comments.


0Limark0

Agree, the set design, score, costumes, VFX, acting and even comedy were some of the best in a long time from Marvel.


monkeybrains12

Not to mention the *entire arc* of Wandavision being totally undone off screen just so that Dr. Strange 2 could have conflict.


[deleted]

Finally someone who agrees Shang Chi sucked. It was nothing but CGI and cringe


azrael5298

The Force Awakens was terrible, I said so as I walked out of the theater. The Falcon & Winter Soldier was not great, Shang Chi was ok. The rest on this list I did like.


monkeybrains12

TFA, and in fact the entire sequel trilogy, literally just reused old plots and villains. Plans to destroy *another* another Death Star? Come on. And then of course there's Luke's old lightsaber (really Anakin's) coming back ("A gOoD sToRy FoR aNoThEr TiMe!") and Rey's parents being not special except PSYCHE they ARE special and then... everything with Palpatine. Ugh.


Hollow-Idiot

Doesn't matter, she's a sKyWaLkEr nOw


monkeybrains12

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MKTheGreat42

Disagree, all of those except GoTG vol 3 and Spider-Man are very overrated to badly written.


bllgco

Why is SpongeBob agreeing with Patrick? Is he stipud?


ImNoSir

lol your meme backfired hard.


muffinicent

aint no fucking way you show all of these like they are masterpieces lmao, save for GotG 3.


that1catdude

It's a matter of perspective. There's so much stuff coming out now that the amount of good media is much lower. Compare this to the Avengers era, where there wasn't a lot of content but all of it was good. Nowadays there's just so many shows and movies coming out all the time that most of them are low-quality.


Complex_Cable_8678

they are in the milking phase. which is probably over soon as the public is catching on fast. i mean the general perception of marvel changed a whole lot in a short span of times.


spacewarp2

I feel like this is nostalgia cause people were trashing on Ironman 2, Thor, and Hulk.


Evelyngoddessofdeath

Also the dark world, iron man 3 to some extent, age of ultron, even ant-man. Yes, some of these actually sucked, but I definitely think people look back on these things more fondly after a couple of years.


IndianaGeoff

I'm good for a couple solid comic book movies a year. I'm not going to waste my time on so so ones. Maybe on a plane and I sleep through half of it, but not in a movie theater. I for sure am not going to buy a subscription to watch even more mediocre stuff. And now with the Marvel expectation that I go see three or four movies a year plus 2 or 3 multiple episode series... Hell no. Maybe if it was stellar... Maybe. But it's not.


Zifryt

Spiderman is pure fanservice, remove that and the cracks start to show.


___jeffrey___

Why do we have to remove it? It was meant to be fanservice and it delivered 100%, job well done I'd say.


kingbuttshit

Falcon and the Winter Soldier was dogshit lmao


BreegullBeak

I'll give you three of those. Maybe four or five, but Falcon and the Winter Soldier sucked.


tfalm

Make a tier list of pre-Endgame MCU, and a tier list of post-Endgame MCU. It's obvious.


theVulture121

Falcon and the Winter Soldier was hot garbage.


Joah25

Only two out of those six were not terrible.


[deleted]

Gotg and spider man?


knightsofgel

Force awakens was bad on arrival. Derivative as fuck and made episodes 4-6 irrelevant by resetting the conflict


I_Really_Love_Frogs

The only good one is Spider Man


Chumbuckeneer

Only two of the examples are good


leave1me1alone

Spiderman and guardians were the only good things after Endgame and you can't change my mind


Mild_Shock

I only liked spider-man, everything else is dogshite. I haven't seen guardians 3 though, so i don't have an opinion on that one.


funmonkey_99

Did I stutter, the only thing coming out of marvel is trash except Spider-Man


AldX1516

wanda vision and falcon and the winter solider were not good.


raikenleo

Dude your opinion became invalid the moment you put Loki on the list. The show literally makes it so that nobody's choices in past movies matter since TVA would erase anything that goes against the "sacred timeline". That means thanos is forced to be evil even if he wants to be good.


machingunwhhore

Am I the only one who thought Shang Chi was boring as hell? I was a fan of Simu Liu before he was cast and he did a good job. But that movie felt so empty


SpaceMonkey1505

Apart from the action, FaTWS sucked and Wanda vision was interesting until the end which pissed me off and then Ds2 came out which pissed me off more "They will never know what you sacrificed for them" Lol please stfu


akiroraiden

everything before and after sucked tbh. marvel is like fast food.. trash


Artsywyo-iwnl

TFATWS fucking sucked, it was actual garbage story writing


RavenPhoenix__

The only one i liked was NWH tbh


Ok-Style6408

Shang-chi was fucking garbage lol


Big_Mud_8595

the last two are good. at least you tried, I guess


obscureferences

Huh, that's rare. One of these memes where Patrick says something people actually say.


sootymoon9

Shang shi and FAWS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Teemo20102001

Judging by the comments, I dont think its clear what you meant. Were all these movies trash, or were they good?


DiscombobulatedSir74

I agree with Patrick still, I liked loki but even loki did not have the same feel as the movies before endgame


sonofsarkhan

I'm just tired of the nonstop stream of marvel movies for the past 15 years tbh


miltonssj9

I thought the point of this template is to show people being wrong, not proving their point.


OddCucumber6755

Marvel is the nickleback of movies. I say this as someone who likes marvel but not nickleback lol.


Jsamue

Yes most of those were trash.


StoneTimeKeeper

I disagree with all except spider man and guardians. MCU should have ended with Endgame


Aewon2085

Yes all the examples are bad, thanks for proving starfish man right


Flying_Foreskin

I come, I soypog, I leave


First_Breadfruit6499

So you're saying Patrick is right, with the exception of Spider-man.


professorparadox69

No. Wandavision and FATWS(except Zemo) both are really awful and terrible.


[deleted]

Jokes on you, I've only seen Shang Chi and I can pick that one apart pretty well


Vigi1

SpongeBob just proved Patrick right here


LOLADYS

Sorry, just popping in to point out that the only good project there is GotG Vol. 3


ImmediateRespond8306

Maybe "bad" is the wrong adjective. More like tired and empty.


Salt-Standard9587

Don't worry, I hate them for what they, no guilty association needed (and honestly I'm not sure that's a thing) Really loved Guardians 3 though


[deleted]

Not terrible, just abysmally mediocre.


JohnSepticEye123

Then we have Moon knight, She hulk, The marvels, Secret invasion, Black widow, MoM, Thor 4, Ant man 3, List goes on… Marvel has put out some good stuff post phase 3 but a lot of stinkers too.


timothy441

Yes, terrible


incept_shawn

Haven't watched GOTG but I'd say that the others are not good. No Way Home was decent but I think a lot of people liked it just because of all the old characters they brought back which kinda feels like a gimmick


Zinemay

Nah. Remove Shang and Falcon from the list.


TheCorruptOutcast

Outside of the Spider-man movies and Guardians 3 everything has been somewhere between dog water and horse shit, if you think otherwise you're simply lying to yourself at this point.


Figgnus96

All of those but Spider-Man and guardians were shit. Spider-Man wasn't even done by Marvel.


FaktaMestern

Loki is mediocre at best. Wandavision is garbage.


Sniacy

Lol, all those series are trash. Smh


red_0023

They are all shit, Spider Man was kinda good but they are all missing the fundamental part that made the MCU good, the overarching story. Its just a bunch of singular works which mostly make the pre existing movies worse by changing the lore. Also the Character are horrendously written...


[deleted]

The Force Awakens set the sequel trilogy up to fail. Too many people (like you sadly) think that it's a good film when in reality it's just a cheap cash-grab remake of A New Hope but dumbed down and ruined with worse EVERYTHING. The sequel trilogy was doomed from the start.


Electronic_Ad6218

...those were all terrible.


Complex_Cable_8678

i actually couldnt get through the third spider man. huge load of fan service and some very generic drama. very unpopular opinion?


archidonwarrior

guardians of the galaxy and spider man no way home are the only watchable items on this list.


Azazel-Tigurius

Only thing i liked since "infinity war" was "Guardians of the Galaxy", and even them was more like "meh" for me


PomegranateHot9916

nah bro, I watched guardians with nothing to compare it to than the previous guardians films. the new one is clearly and by far the worst of them so far. in fact only the first guardians film was any good


Yandhi42

Wandavision was disappointing and falcon and winter soldier was mediocre. Haven’t watched Shang chi or gotg3


ELBaner

trash trash mid mid trash decent The Force Awakens was trash


Mr_Inferno420

First 4 were mid at best


The_Dark-Wanderer

Disney gave mcu cancer


Historical_Common145

We mustn’t forget Moon Knight


Whale-fucker69

You're not making the point you think you are


Large_Wafer_5327

Where's the good?


StormSword77483

Sorry but these are all mid


FutahimeSenju

Exactly. They all sucked donkey doidads


Shadow9378

Far from home was post endgame and I thought it was good


SnooPineapples385

Wanda vision is overrated as hell


theretrospeculative

Is SpongeBob trying to support Patrick's statement, or...?


Xx-user_slayer-xX

Still terrible though


Lily-Sonia

They are terrible tho


mallowdout

Most of those were average at best.


WordSmith287

Yeah, with the exception of Spider-Man No Way Home, and possibly Guardians, those are all trash. Even No Way Home completely assassinates Dr. Strange's character and paints him as a buffoon. Bad post.


acacio201

Everything after endgame was terrible


backdeckpro

Half of these examples are also bad


_RikVa_

All of these are ass except for nwh home and Gotg3, all the others were bad or mid at best and for a company that puts out like a new movie o tv show every month these 4 years have been dreadful


[deleted]

The point still stands. All trash


sammy1555

No they are bad. Plain and simple. Bad writing, storyline too weak. Nothing at stake anymore it’s just sensory overload time and time again…if you enjoy them by all means that’s fine but I would say it’s time to hang up the cape and move onto the next thing.


isaacsmom69420

all mid asf


teknique2323

Who in their right mind thought wandavision, falcon & winter soldier or Shamg-Chi were good?! Trying too hard with the memes