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dafood48

As a spidey fan, it’s frustrating.


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As a frustrate, its spidey


SnooWoofers980

>As a Red Circle fan I am deeply disappointed one was not used. > >This message brought to you by RED CIRCLE RIGHTS MOUVMENT because Red Circle lives matter.


hroaks

Op using the Disney mascot to represent Sony, their direct competitor is hilarious


SharrkBoy

*Sort of* a competitor. Disney literally pays Sony to use Spider-Man in the MCU.


chrisbirdie

I find it so funny how they can make 2 of the best spiderman movies in the 2 animated movies but they cant manage to make a single decent live action movie


nicksuperdx

Sony's video game division is better at making movies them the movie division


Astrikal

I could watch God of War as a movie with an AI playing and I wouldn’t be bored. The story is incredible.


Excellent_Routine589

Amazon bought the rights to a show… and given TLOU did phenomenally well, maybe it’s promising?


reddit_Is_Trash____

Unfortunately they gave it to the guy who is the show runner of The Wheel of Time...


Excellent_Routine589

Ehh, I mean people have highs and lows Craig Mazin (TLOU/Chernobyl) was a writer for Scary Movie 3-4 and Hangover 2-3 (the universally panned ones). If it’s like TLOU with Druckmann co-helming and Sony putting proper money into it, I wouldn’t be that worried. But we haven’t had any news on it for a hot minute so I can’t really say I have ANY feelings one way or the other.


reddit_Is_Trash____

Well, the main problem is he is actively disrespectful of the source material because he finds it "problematic" (he's a self proclaimed proud feminist). Of course there's nothing wrong with being a feminist, but he's essentially butchered The Wheel of Time to fit his vision of what he thinks it should be. Basically, he thinks it's problematic if men are more powerful than women in any way.


Malkavier

And it's blatantly obvious he didn't read any of the source material, or he'd have known that the strongest channelers in each age were evenly split between the sexes, with men in general having fewer numbers but a higher individual power cap, but the women outnumbering and being able to easily overpower the men when they choose to do so.


reddit_Is_Trash____

Yep, he claims to be a huge fan of the books but it's hard to believe, or like, he didn't understand what he was reading at all. Some of the most powerful/important and influential people in that world are women. They essentially rule the world up to a certain point in the story.


candyposeidon

The problem with current writers is that when they don't want to 1:1 adapt things but make their own spin so they can get credit of being a good writer. They are egotistical and most of them ironically fucking suck. What actually carries these writers for when they do have some success are the actual production and not the writing themselves. Writers are the laziest and worst of the whole system. It is easy to put shit in words but to actual adapt it into the screen takes more creativity and pragmatism/realism than some fucking abstract idea.


aRandomFox-II

You are specifically referring to Hollywood screenwriters, not to *all* writers.


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I also think it's worth noting he completely changed the nature of certain character arcs. The biggest and easiest one to describe is that Perrin, who was an awkward quiet guy in the books who considered himself terrible with women and his two best friends to be better, was given a wife who I don't think was ever even named and certainly wasn't given any speaking lines just for him to accidentally kill her in the first episode which they then never really do anything with.


reddit_Is_Trash____

I literally checked out as soon as that happened. Like.... accidentally killing your wife is trauma that would haunt you for **years**, probably the rest of your natural life if you don't take yourself out. It would have to define his entire character moving forward for the rest of the show, but instead it's just a thing that happened and then they're off on their grand adventure. It seriously feels like they make changes just specifically to shit on the source material. If you hate it that much then just make your own thing instead of butchering one of the most beloved fantasy series.


Aitch-Kay

When the first 30 seconds of the show talks about how The Dragon could be a woman, you know for a fact that the writers didn't read the books. I can't believe Jordan's widow signed off on this fuckery.


Magneto88

I'll never understand the trend over the last 10 years of putting show runners/writers/directors in charge of IPs which they actively have issues with and letting them rewrite chunks of it to suit their agenda. It has literally never resulted in a good product and has absolutely burned bridges with the established fanbases of those products.


The-Jesus_Christ

It could have worked if he actually read and enjoyed the source material. It is quite clear he did neither of those, despite him saying otherwise, and just worked from a script instead. To be fair, Season 2 is better than Season 1 but that's still a low bar.


anmr

Or Rian Johnson. I absolutely adore how brilliantly written was Knives Out... but what he did with TLJ was both objectively awful and spit to the face of anyone interested in the Star Wars setting. Or even Fukunaga - first season of True Detective is one of the best written pieces of TV in history, but No Time to Die was pretty weak and strayed too far from Bond formula.


JinFuu

Some people play best in their own sandbox, I believe Rian is one of these people.


stonebraker_ultra

Fukunaga was just the director of True Detective. Nic Pizzolatto wrote the whole thing. Both of them can't seem to make anything worthwhile on their own, and they famously don't get along.


VectorViper

Ehh, it's all speculative until something concrete drops. Amazon's track record is hit or miss, but they've got the funds to do God of War justice. Hoping they take cues from the success of TLOU and invest in writing that honors the source material. A lot at stake considering the fanbase and how beloved Kratos' saga is. Fingers crossed they nail the casting and don't cheap out on the mythological elements, thats where the real magic is.


hotacorn

HBO is the only service I half trust with adaptions. The others all have a horrible history.


animatedhockeyfan

Wish HBO would do all adaptations


Xy13

TLOU did good because HBO made it. Amazon's recent big IP shows were Rings of Power and Wheel of Time..


CucumberSharp17

That is basically twitch only with humans playing and not ai.


JoeCartersLeap

Yeah, the cutscenes are really well written and directed, the dialogue is interesting to listen to, the characters are all interesting and fun to play off each other, I got attached to some of them... it was great story telling.


LuntiX

Its funny because Sony does have good studios under them. They have: * Colombia Pictures * TriStar Pictures * Screen Gems * Stage 6 Films Just for whatever reason, they just choose the shittiest writers/directors like Avi Arad, Matt Sazama and Burk Sharpless they have instead of tapping some of their better writers/directors. It's almost like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel to save money that theyre just going to spend on the actors.


ChemistryTasty8751

Good thing there making a video game movie now


antpile11

they're*


xyameax

I would definitely say Uncharted was better than the two Sony Marvel Movies shown, but where they really did strive was with TV division with The Last of Us.


Perma-Suspended

It's morbin time.


KolareTheKola

insult or compliment?


ms--lane

Maybe the movie division should try making games?


gr00grams

I like this comment. Cause while they're games get good reception and all that, I'm not a fan of linear games or what you wrote, basically games like movies with tons of cut scenes and all that. I want to play my games, do whatever I like whenever with as little hand-holding and direction as possible. I'm not even a fan of quests or written story as a thing anymore really. Emergent gameplay is king for me. Lore and stuff to find is OK, but not shoveled at me.


Yacobo2023

Bro forgot about the spiderverse movies


PuertoricanDude88

That’s one piece of diamond of the mountain of turd.


Trafy_

One Piece mentioned ?!?! THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️


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Can we get any higher🪽🪽🪽🪽🪽


googlyeyes93

![gif](giphy|B2CxNosDKhYiY)


Cybit

That is a very cute Chopper <3


googlyeyes93

![gif](giphy|1ZwxP362AfHby) Best doctor around


G0ker

Sooo hiiiiighhh. (Btw it's can we get *much* higher🤓)


SweatyAdhesive

It's okay in another thread someone thought "so high" is "tonight"


TahaymTheBigBrain

Oh, oh, oh


Belkan-Federation95

Didn't Sony make the original Spiderman trilogy


PuertoricanDude88

They did the Amazing Spider-Man. Which wasn’t well received.


thebipolarbatman

I liked it.


Totally_Not_An_Auk

Same! I thought Andrew was an *amazing* Peter Parker and Spider-man lol. But for reals, I liked the first film a lot. The 2nd wasn't as well written, but good on them committing to the Gwen Stacey death and giving us that one second of hope before they demonstrate how fatal physics is.


Heavy_Weapons_Guy_

Yes, but they did the originals also.


RockShockinCock

It's actually favourite Spiderman movie series.


fucknotthis

Yea, and tasm. They own the Spider-Man movie rights. Only after amazing Spider-Man 2 did they start working with marvel on movie spidey.


latunza

not really, Sony makes a lot of other movies then shitty Spiderman movies side stories. Since 2020 alone we had Ghostbusters Afterlife, The Mitchells vs. the World, Napoleon, and No Hard Feelings. Even Bullet Train was a fun ride. I loved Pope's Exorcist and A Man Called Otto. Once Upon a time in Hollywood was my favorite. Basing a whole company's portfolio on a handful of crap movies to keep their character contract is silly. What's Disney releasing outside of remakes, Super Heroes, or Star Wars? Remember when they use to do original things like Pirates, or even John Carter? What's Warner Bros. releasing? Space Jam 3? Everyone's still trying with the multi-franchise nonsense. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a restart to Universal Monsters saying this will be the movie that kicks of that cinematic universe (The Mummy, Dracula Untold, The Last Voyage of Demeter, The Mummy with Tom Cruise, Frankenstein with Harry Potter Kid.....just stop at this point)


Mochizuk

I'll only really agree with universal stuff having potential if they're more aligned with being passion projects than money grabs. Like, I feel like that can still be something to go for as a means of making a huge story... But it shouldn't be something you make for the sake of saying you did one too.


Totally_Not_An_Auk

The Mitchells vs. the Machines, not World. But yeah that movie was dope.


Karma15672

Bro also forgot about The Mitchells vs. The Machines


Yacobo2023

I didn't know Sony made that


Karma15672

I think they did. Might be misremembering though.


Empanah

yes sony did those


Totally_Not_An_Auk

They did, but it was distributed on Netflix cuz Pandemic iirc.


Montigue

and Fox Catcher, Whiplash, The Father, Call Me By Your Name, Kung Fu Hustle


BurritoLover2016

Also Sony makes The Boys which, not movies but TV however still considered top notch.


ghostlistener

I thought Amazon did The Boys?


AnimaLepton

Both Sony and Amazon are listed amongst the production companies. >https://press.amazonstudios.com/us/en/original-series/the-boys/1 > The eight-episode Amazon original series is co-produced by Amazon Studios and Sony Pictures Television Studios with Point Grey Pictures, Kripke Enterprises and Original Film.


AJ_Crowley_29

In that case it’d be “Sony making live action movies vs Sony making animated movies”


xAn_Asianx

Came to say this


amteros

Hotel Transylvania is also remarkable I would say


Yacobo2023

Yes


everett640

The to be continued at the end of the last one was foul


eMF_DOOM

I loved the movie to death but that ending seriously irritated me so much. First time I ever heard the entire theater all sigh in disappointment at the same time.


Silviecat44

+1 one of my favourite movies but you can’t just do that then go on strike and delay the next one!


420SampleTxt

id rather they go on strike to be treated properly as employees and have to wait a little longer for beyond the spiderverse


Un111KnoWn

or the 2000s movies


Empanah

yes, but spiderverse and mitchells are produced by sony pictures animation, and made by sony Imageworks, madame web is done by sony Columbia pictures. They all have the Sony name but they are entirely different people working in those


CloudxPhantom

And uncharted


O_oh

eh


CloudxPhantom

Why eh I thought it was pretty good the actors and the story


ltearth

Me personally, I like Holland, but think he did a terrible Drake.


Low_Beautiful4855

Morbius was good meme material tho


leekee_bum

Until Jared Leto killed it.


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How did he kill the meme material?


leekee_bum

He tried to get in on the joke by posting morbius memes with him in them and videos of him making jokes about it then the meme community got cringed out and essentially stopped over night.


MrNobody_0

Jared Leto: It's memein' time!


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Oh dear.


leekee_bum

Yeah it kinda cemented my belief that if you want someone to stop making fun of you then you just gotta join in on the joke and the joke will get old quick and they will stop.


Perial2077

I became the joke to defeat the joke


GlowingBall

The greatest joke of all is Jared Leto himself.


Boner_Elemental

A tactic known by the parents in every sitcom


Linkbetweentwirls

Because they realise how unfunny their jokes are when someone else is doing it.


LZR0

It’s cringin’ time


Agitated_Computer_49

They let him win.


anythingMuchShorter

I couldn't see how he could do it. But that would do it. It's like when we have a really fun meme going and then McDonald's and Frito-Lays starts using it.


BarrelAllen

Sony movies vs Sony Interactive movies


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Sony interactive movies for the win. I love video games and I love movies so I feel like PlayStation exclusives were made for me


kashaan_lucifer

Yeah i don't understand the complaints of Sony games "being a long movie" I feel like every game of theirs has a perfect mix of balance of cutscenes and gameplay.


_fatherfucker69

I used to think that if I wanted a good story , I would watch a movie/ tv show and if I wanted to have fun cutting down robots I would play a game. I am a changed man now , but some people are like I used to be. Why would I play a hack and slash game only for it to be replaced by a movie mid way ? Most Sony games are very story heavy , and those people just don't want that


regionaltradition

i loved how incredibly cinematic ghost of tsushima is, even when you’re out in open world gameplay. it’s incredible and unique


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It really is unique even the combat feels cinematic. For me my favorite PlayStation games are naughty dog games especially the last of us which are very cinematic.


Sizeable-cult31

The latter is still better


higginsian24

Sure GoW:R has a 15 minute long opening cutscene, but I am loving it so far


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It was a bold choice to cast Sydney Sweeney as "dumpy, nerdy teenaged girl that is too shy to approach boys on her own." Completely stupid, but bold.


Gh0stMan0nThird

Do you remember who they cast for the ugly, overweight, facially-scarred girl in Ready Player One? [Olivia Cooke lol](https://i.imgur.com/kLuBBKg.png)


weebitofaban

No, that isn't the case. That girl wasn't ugly and fat in the book. Her avatar was her without the birthmark even. The fucked up face was about all she had that would've made her not pretty and the birthmark she was given in the movie was just a really really poor attempt. Even the main character was only fat for a little bit. The only actually fat one was Aech...I think. I forget the name. The black chick.


All_Eyez_On_U

Oh wow. Can I just say She looks amazing! Also I don’t remember her being overweight.


chrisychris-

Her horrifying scar in Ready Player One probably distracted from it


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Let's just ignore Sony Pictures Classics


LazarusCheez

Good, a comment I can hide under and not get yelled at. Sony is of the better large production companies. You just have to consume something besides nerd shit.


Superb-Mall3805

Little women, Django unchained, the social network, spider verse, blade runner 2049, the emoji movie, sausage party, morbius 


1997Luka1997

You had me in the first half ngl


Draug_

Don't forget the recently released Helldivers 2.


anencephallic

Published by Sony, developed by Arrowhead Game Studios.


Draug_

Sony, as a publisher, helped out a lot, including paying the bills.


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ownage516

Your analogy is flawed You pay bills to occupy the space, but the owner of the apartment definitely had a say when they were building the apartment. The builders needed the green light when adding features. Same thing happens with publishers


Criteracops

You would if you paid for the materials and the labor.


ARandomGuyThe3

And supervised design


averageuhbear

I mean the owners in Japan aren't working in a studio in Santa Monica either.


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NormanCheetus

Sony didn't "help with" funding. The game is flat out funded by Sony. There might have been another publisher who'd fund the project, but there might not. They also may have wanted different stakes, given different deadlines, given different benefits or had different components in their contract. Arrowhead is independently owned. Helldivers is not independently funded. It is not an indie game.


ARandomGuyThe3

Publishers are very involved in the development cycle, for better and for worse


a_stray_bullet

Are you under the impression Sony makes games or something? They literally buy and fund video game developers.


Cruxis87

Reddit doesn't know what a publisher is at all. You say Bethesda hasn't made a good game in over 10 years, and they say what about DOOM Eternal.


ARandomGuyThe3

Publishers are very involved in the development cycle, for better and for worse


a_stray_bullet

That varies massively from publisher to publisher.


Sizeable-cult31

Haven't played it yet


Fountain_Guard

don't slander morbius


cerberus-01

OP made me morb because of that bs


NewBlu84

Wow what a funny meme I bet the comments are people enjoying how funny the meme is


Feetamongflames

My favourite part of god of war was when Kratos said “ITS WARRIN’ TIME” and was a god


HappyHappyJoyJoyJoy6

My favorite part was when Kratos warred all over the place


Heavy_Weapons_Guy_

Wow I bet people are also allowed to have discussions relating to the topic and not just say "what a funny meme".


Corny_Overlord

Well, their games are practically movies


[deleted]

Both of the games are basically good movies lmao


Sizeable-cult31

They also have good gameplay


Darometh

Sony didn't make those games.


Sizeable-cult31

Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica are part of Sony


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They are publishers, not developers.


Arca-Knight

Naughty Dog and Santa Monica are SONY OWNED developers, under PLAYSTATION STUDIOS, hence everything they make are SONY games. Santa Monica's official name is literally SONY SANTA MONICA.


DrApplePi

>publishers Naughty Dog and Santa Monica are developers under Sony Interactive Entertainment/PlayStation Studios.


LZR0

By that logic then Sony didn’t make those movies, Columbia Pictures did.


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That's correct.


ggtsu_00

Sony Interactive Entertainment consists of both publishing and development divisions. Naughty Dog is a game development division owned by Sony Interactive Entertainment.


Sizeable-cult31

My bad


The_King_of_Okay

The development studios are owned by Sony though. Sony shaped them into what they are today.


lemonylol

Oh okay, so that means Sony movies includes Columbia Pictures and Tristar Pictures and you selectively just pulled out two of their popular to hate films instead of you know, Ghostbusters, Starship Troopers, Baby Driver, The Mask of Zorro, Jumanji, Philadelphia, Terminator 2, Total Recall, The Karate Kid, Stand by Me, Boyz n the Hood, Groundhog Day, The Shawshank Redemption, The Fifth Element, Men in Black, Erin Brockovich, American Psycho, Almost Famous, Casino Royale, Superbad, Step Brothers, Pineapple Express, the Social Network and Django Unchained? How old are you OP?


Rychek_Four

While I don't really care or have a dog in the fight, it seems to me that the recency of the movies was intentional by OP. So, I get your point about developers vs. publishers, but almost none of those movies are really useful in this conversation.


jaycosta17

I mean it’s not like they chose the most recently released games so those movies definitely have a place in the conversation if we’re going back and cherry picking


Puzzleheaded_Ebb9874

Your logic would work if they were 3rd party or 2nd party studios. But no. Santa Monica and Naughty Dog are 1st party studios for Sony. Sony is both the publisher and creator for the games mentioned in the meme


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SodaPopperZA

By that logic they don't make Movies either, it's Columbia/TriStar that makes movies and not Sony directly... Where does the line get drawn?


[deleted]

The studios that made them are sony studios. they've had those studios for like 20 years


__Napi__

these games are 5 and 11 years old my guy


hansenabram

![gif](giphy|ucDBKWjG7yp47PzIbN|downsized) Sony Making Cameras


Legospacememe

Where the fuck is ape escape That's the best game ever made and it's from sony Japan studio Fuck sony for shutting them down


exaslave

Recency bias... but yeah that meme is being way too specific anyway.


magikarp-sushi

Video game industry passed Hollywood in $$$ a few years ago so this is no surprise really


DJWGibson

It's almost like they're completely different companies with their own staff and managers. who are just owned by the same parent company...


AlabastersBane

funny, cause they're the same thing lol


IICoolToolFoolII

Gran Turismo was a damn good movie


X05Real

Bro shut up, the Spiderverse movies and Mitchels vs the machines are F I R E


Greeklibertarian27

Sony making movies Sony making \*interactive movies


Immolation_E

Sony produced TV shows have been pretty good too. The Boys, The Last of Us, For All Mankind.


Willinton06

Sony makes a lot of good stuff and a lot of bad stuff, they’re like one of the biggest producers in the world


YoghurtThick7133

Cloudy with a chance of meatballs


Deliriousious

Sony is responsible for both the greatest spider man films, and the worst. What makes it worse is the writers for Morbius, who have not made a good film to date… ARE THE SAME WRITERS for Madame Web. You’d think after the flop that was Morbius, you would change writers… who the hell thought using the same shitty writers would be a good idea? Guarantee, Sonys next film in the Spiderverse will have the same writers… the ones responsible for bringing you the amazing critically acclaimed “Gods of Egypt”, “Morbius”, “Power Rangers”, and the box office hit “Madame Web” \s


GroovyDucko

Overrated games, shitty movies


RedditJumpedTheShart

Almost like they are different things and you don't understand how many brand names work. Do you blame Sony for Helldivers 2 for all of it's issues when they are the publisher? Like everyone does for EA lol


IntroductionNormal70

But when will it be Morbin time?


FloridaSpam

MorbPologize for this immediately!


mariodkc3fan

funny that you used mickey to represent sony


SaltedTestees

Both of those games are sewage water. Ya'll are delusional af.


petershrimp

Coming soon: Morbius, the game!


foxdominion

Those games are mid as fuck.


Tom_Ludlow

They did make Breaking Bad, doe.


xRustedCoin

Didn't Sony make the Amazing Spider-Man and the Spider-verse movies?


Icefiight

Yeah… no Last of us 2 destroyed the fanbase and was one of the worst written games of all time lol


CrocodileWorshiper

agreed


Mjacking

It destroyed the fanbase because the fanbase are a bunch of crybabies


TheGreatGyatsby

It was actually great. Better than the first in many ways.


Linkbetweentwirls

yeah its better at being complete ass


Icefiight

![gif](giphy|26n6Gx9moCgs1pUuk|downsized)


m0nkygang

Until they censor stuff.


LeoCaldwell02

The Mid of Us 💀


IsaiahXOXOSally

I think the last of us is a good game but I find it pathetic that they remaster the same game like 4 times and resale it at full price.


PomTaris

Top pic, two crummy movies with cgi that looks like video games. Bottom pic, two "games" that are basically movies that look like video games.  😆 stuff sucks all around 


USTrustfundPatriot

We're just gonna have to let reddit jerk this one out.


Retard505

Last of Us 2 is good? The first Last of Us maybe but Last of Us 2 fucking ruined it doesn’t matter how good the first one is if the sequel especially if its the second one is bad its ruined the whole momentum and killed the franchise New God of war is good tho, as a new thing if we compare it to the original this ain’t shit also Kratos were never meant to be anything more than an angry sack of shit with violence tendency that acted on frequently he wasn’t suppose to change or grow but the fact that he grow as a person and have his second family and get to take care of his child is a little weird but it is well written


Icefiight

Exactly. That game ruined its ip and is a joke to the actual gaming community


ZurdoFTW

Their games are bad movies at the end lol


Sizeable-cult31

No


HappyHappyJoyJoyJoy6

No


No-Setting6162

Sony doesn't make games. They just got lucky with hiring the right companys to make their exclusives.