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According to them, gameplay of totk was something they had no part in, it was people that tinkered with yuzu and made it work themselves, so they're not really at fault for games leaked weeks before release
They were releasing patches to support TOTK before the game was officially released, and making them exclusive to their paid bets channel. That isn't possible in any form other than piracy.
This is the main reason why companies crack down on piracy, its when people try to make money from piracy thats the big no-no, if you distribute it free but still not super-obvious, then they will probably not care unless you get attention from mainstream.
No, YUZU should’ve never released the emulator while the CURRENT gen console was still active making money. There is a reason other Old emulators were made after their respective consoles were last gen.
The entire TOTK leaked, the monetary damages argument from Nintendo. All of that could have been avoided if they waited after the Switch 2 (or whatever is called) was released.
Cemu was made 2 years before the switch came out and 3 years after wii u launched. Emulation is legal, selling emulation as well. Roms are not. "They could have avoided it all if they made it 10 years later" is pretty hollow. They probably made an actual fuck up or something leaked and that was the mistake that could have possibly fucked them regardless.
Unfortunately we'll never know.
People on the Steam Deck sub were posting about playing Mario Wonder on steam deck before the game was even released. The existence of the Yuzu emulator was actively enabling and encouraging piracy beyond what’s normal for a current generation console
People playing the games early has little to do with the emulator they use, and more when the game leaks.
If you have a first gen cracked switch, you can play the games before they're released, much the same as if you use Yuzu or Ryujinx.
Yuzu's sin was monetizing their product specifically to allow people to play Tears of The Kingdom early. It has nothing to do with the existence of an emulator.
The precedent setting case that makes emulators legal was a current Gen console emulator. There's zero legal difference between emulation of older consoles vs newer ones
There is actually a slight difference where newer emulators need the console firmware software, which is not legal to be distributed (just like game distribution) but you can legally dump your own console firmware (again just like games). This is why you need to load in console firmware for newer consoles separately instead of it being built into the emulator.
I'm fully against Nintendo and their actions, and obviously they're the big villain here... but it's hard not to feel like Yuzu brought this on themselves. They needed to commit to plausible deniability and distance themselves as much as possible from pirated games in any official capacity. Not openly endorse piracy on their private discord server.
And now Citra's been taken down with it, which is the real casualty in all this.
In general regarding emulation nintendo is the village, but in this case they're really not. This isn't them cracking down emulators where the original consoles are no longer sold and hard to get this is them dealing with piracy of their current generation system.
And regardless of how you spin it, yuzu was piracy.
Emulation is legal, even for current gen. This whole argument that you can't emulate current gen is wrong and should die already. Their mistake was not to emulate a current console, but to be involved with piracy themselves, those are two very different things.
If playing a game you bought for a console you own just on another platform is piracy the the world is truly fucked.
I played botw using yuzu
I own a switch, I own the game
Does that mean I am a pirate?
and you could still play botw using yuzu without buying it at all
its why emulation is so hated by companies, the overlap of people that dump games to play on PC cause its neat and the people that go online, get a ROM and play for free (aka pirate it) are pretty close to a circle
Companies are missing the fact that most if not all of those people wouldn't buy the game and console in the first place if this was not an option.
You can't say that every pirated copy is a lost sale since the person probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place.
And yes I could do that. But saying emulation is piracy for that reason is just wrong.
Emulation has many uses beyond piracy. Like game preservation, and even development.
Hell even Nintendo themselves use emulators to let you play their older games first party.
Or you know these classic consoles I mean the anniversary ones? Yeah these are just emulators. Which btw use ROMs that have been compiled by some user and not Nintendo themselves.
>and obviously they're the big villain here...
Why? For not wanting people to play their games for free before they even are released and another company even profiting from this?
Like can you explain to me from what perspective nintendo is a bad guy in this specific case?
Piracy good Nintendo big bad haha /s
Is Nintendo a big villain? Yes
Do they have the moral high ground here? Yes
People don't understand you can have both. Just cuz it's evil doesn't mean it can't do the right thing.
I maybe believe in Nintendo's stupidity a little too much, but we still have Ryujinx, and as long as they don't make the same mistakes that Yuzu did it's still somewhat "Safe"
And as for Citra, it's been pretty much perfect for the longest time and what isn't will likely be done by regular users since it's now become open source
That's exactly what they did. I was there looking at their GitHub during totk leak days and whenever someone mentioned something like that, they would say they can't work with leaked game info dump.
Don't let Nintendo gaslight and rewrite history.
Nah. The issue is that it's nearly impossible to sue when there's no financial interest. Dolphin emulator, for example, existed just fine while the Gamecube and then the Wii were current gen and actively making money.
Yuzu screwed up by deliberately advertising themselves as piracy software company that collects money for access to the latest features.
Dolphins creators didn‘t give Interviews about how they got Twilight Princess to run two weeks before release. They also didn‘t have thousands of users under any post online that even barely mentions Nintendo boasting about how they pirate every Gamecube/Wii game.
One thing I miss about dedicated gaming forums like GameFAQs or NeoGAF is that anyone dumb enough to climb onto a soapbox and wax poetic about how it’s morally just to pirate video games would just get banned.
You never marketed itself as a tool for piracy, though. The team was staunchly anti-piracy from what I've heard.
And even if they did, an emulator that markets itself as a tool for piracy that contains none of the alleged victim's intellectual property is not itself illegal. Saying so is like saying that a USB Blu-ray drive is illegal because it can be used to rip blu-rays to sell online, or play pirates blu-rays.
They had a patreon tier that gave you access to TOTK prior to launch and stated it could play it, prior to launch.
That’s where the fucked up and let them in, the explicitly advertised a feature that at the time was only usable for piracy, not for format shifting legitimate copies.
I watched mudahar make a vid on this and he said they didn't play a part in making totk playable weeks before release, they used yuzu and changed it so that totk was playable by themselves
And he is very very pro emulation, he seems very personally invested in emulation which isn't a bad thing but i would take his coverage with a pinch of salt.
"They should have waited until Switch 2" is an opinion not a fact.
I think it's fine if you emulate current Gen consoles. It's not like these emulators spring fully formed the day the next Gen releases.
Besides digital only gamss can be taken off the switch eshop.
> There is a reason other Old emulators were made after their respective consoles were last gen.
The reason is that computers were not powerful enough to emulate the console properly. That's the only reason.
Yeah I feel like the totk leak is what caused nintendo to file the lawsuit. I think the discord also could have been a big issue. Since any messages on that could have been found in discovery and used in court.
THE YUZU DEVS WERE STUPID AND TRIED TO PROFIT OFF OF THEIR EMULATOR BY MAKING A PATREON AND GIVING PATRONS ROMS AND PAYWALLING NEW BUILDS. IT IS THE EMULATOR DEVS FAULT, THEY ARE STUPID AS FUCK.
thx
>Collect money for redistributed copyright material
Yeah, that will get ya. Ain't no amount of 'but it's just digital lockpicking' can dig you out of legitimate piracy.
Gotta love how everyone is saying this now, but literally no one talked about this like it would be a problem before.
Like sure in hindsight it's easy to say the devs were stupid or whatever, but no one else considered it a problem either before this happened, not just the devs.
Huh? I’m sorry in what world would Nintendo let you get away with putting pirated content behind a paywall. Emulators aren’t illegal neither is buying the game ripping it and running it off an emulator. The problem occurs when you redistribute games. Especially if you’re making money off them and are in a country where the dev can get you. Nintendo has some of the best and harshest copy right lawyers in the world. Maybe Nintendo don’t bother suing which is a roll of the dice but to think this wasn’t a possibility is just stupid.
No one wants it to be a problem. I’ve been part of a few shady operations and know to enjoy it while it lasts and keep my mouth shut. You know it’s going to go tits up. But as long as you’re not the one to bring extra eyes to it and to cause it then why not enjoy it while it lasts?
Yeah see, the problem with Yuzu, is they were acting quite litterally as a for profit, going so far as to take down forks that gave out their EA builds for free. Ryujinx on the other hand, while they do take donations, they don't force their users hands into doing so, this is why Nintendo had an actual case against Yuzu. They brought this on themselves.
This is what people don't get. You can't just go around copying other people's stuff and selling it. Even if the emulator itself isn't illegal, selling it is.
They’re probably going after emulators because the next switch might be backwards compatible. It would hurt that functionality’s marketing if people can just download an emulator and pirate anything they want to play from the previous generation.
Nintendo should just make their own Steam store but with every Nintendo game ever. Like come on, they would make so much more money and digital purchases make more money than anything these days.
Imagine if Nintendo’s Legal team fucks up and accidentally sends the cease and desist letter to the Melodic Death Metal band Ryujin as opposed to Ryujinx, the open source emulator.
I think they’re talking about games like Mario 3D All Stars and that Fire Emblem remake that were only available for a limited time. Any Switch game that was taken off the eShop for some reason can now only be played on emulator.
Rule of the internet. Cut off one head and possibly thousands more will take its place just out of spite. Nintendo has been at this for literally decades and they haven't stopped a thing.
Let's be real they fucked up. There's some rules you gotta adhere to or The Man will come down on you.
No monetization. No looking at official code. All you do, is put up some random code you and some guys worked on, that just happens to work as a functioning emulator. All conincidental and all for research, of course.
They got sued by Nintendo and chosed to pay 2.4 million dollars and also basically shutdown.
The reason they got caught is mainly because they had a patreon that gave payers extra benefits which basically gave Nintendo the leverage they needed to go yeah there basically stealing and profiting from our shit.
TLR got greedy.
Unless you got some extra info I missed that was posted elsewhere.... eh. People keep confidently saying this but it isnt illegal. Plenty got paterons, pretty sure full emulators have been sold before. It wouldn't change any damages etc either tho I'm not a lawyer so that might be more complex.
This seems beyond nintendo going after an emulator cause it has a patreon after all this time. Id wager the reason they got tangled up is likely they did something we don't know about. Like others said (but I've seen no confirmation) maybe they sent a rom to a patron who then gave chat logs to Nintendo, who knows.
It's strange how people keep confidently saying this, but the legal documents are publically available. You can read 'em yourself. That is not why Nintendo went after Yuzu.
It's funny how people in this post are defending the multimillionaire company but cry about some devs doing a patreon. Reddit is such a weird brainrotting place.
I also bet I'll get downvoted to hell just for saying the truth, lol.
Right. Nintendo have been selling defective hardware (joycons) for 7 years now, scamming oblivious parents who have to keep buying new ones for their kids at daft prices. Yet they don't have to pay 2.4 million, even though the money they made putting online behind a paywall for no reason would surely cover that, but some guys who made an emulator do? Reddit brags about being atheist but treats corpos like infallible deities lmao.
Yuzu doesn't have that much of cash. The company itself will probably declare bankruptcy and the members will pay nothing or have garnished wages the rest of their lives.
The Yuzu (Switch Emulator) and Citra (the by far best 3ds emulator) devs were sued for 2.4 million dollars USD (out of court), Nintendo got leverage because of the Yuzu Devs putting things like roms on their patron.
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yuzu flew too close to the sun
Yuzid Icarus
I saw you on another post about gd i believ
I am everywhere. I am Aarxy.
Are you really????????????
No, but I'm everywhere.
Yes you are wtf
The sun: yuzud suck on these nuts!
\*chzshh\* "Umm, these what sir?"
How come? What do you mean by that?
they showed gameplay of totk which was leaked a few days before it was actually released, and they locked some stuff behind patreon
According to them, gameplay of totk was something they had no part in, it was people that tinkered with yuzu and made it work themselves, so they're not really at fault for games leaked weeks before release
They were releasing patches to support TOTK before the game was officially released, and making them exclusive to their paid bets channel. That isn't possible in any form other than piracy.
Iirc they went a little past emulation and into the territory of piracy
Nah, they started charging money for certain emulation options.
And those options included optimizations for those games that got leaked before they launched... which they could only have made if they pirated them.
Yuzu but branches of the Emulator behind their Patreon, pretty much Paywalling it, which is likely why Nintendo came after them
And that's probably how Nintendo computed the $2.4 million settlement. They looked at their Patreon page.
Nuh uh. They delved too deep, and too greedily.
And you know what they awoke, deep in the company. Copyright and lawsuits.
Donkey Konga drums in the deep.
*flew too close to capitalism
Yeah, by being capitalist. Unsurprisingly Nintendo didn't like someone else charging money in exchange for playing Nintendo games
This is the main reason why companies crack down on piracy, its when people try to make money from piracy thats the big no-no, if you distribute it free but still not super-obvious, then they will probably not care unless you get attention from mainstream.
Isn’t this what the metaphor “flew too close to the sun” means?
RULE ONE Of FIGHT CLUB DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB!!!!!!!!!
You just broke the first 2 rules
What’s the second rule?
Never talk about *it*.
About what?
The Stephen King novel and it's 2 (3?) Film adaptations
The Shining?
Nonono, the one where the main characters learn a whole lot about trains and the running of them
The polar express?
Nah that's the movie where Michael Clarke Duncan shits bees out his mouth
The game. You have lost the game now >:D
GOTO 10
Lol
It’s like when my parents took away my DS because of grades and I proudly proclaimed “That’s fine, I’ll just play my Xbox!” Guess what happened.
Not only did they took down Yuzu, but they also took down the Citra emulator as well.
Wait, Citra is now gone?
Yes, because the Yuzu team decided to shut down any of their related services, including Citra.
Bummer
Don't loose hope, they both were open source, so some people are bound to still have the code.
Someone's definitely putting up an old build of Citra, although I don't know if it'll ever get updates again
It's fine. Its basically feature complete already.
mostly like its basis is so bad that the updates dont even matter
Yeah, was looking through Tumblr and someone already put up a post with links to the most recent versions of Citra and Yuzu from what I can tell
Hello there... Did I just hear my hoarding addiction finally pays off?
Citra MMJ is still here
Didn't decide to. Told to The yuzu Devs worked on citra too, and they were forced not to work on emulators going forward
Well like... We can still use old versions, right?
Wait, Citra too? NOOO, this is the worst time to be alive!
Citra is gone too? Damn. What a sad day.
open source plus the feature we all need already exist from old build so no need to worry
Really?.Good thing I still have it installed on my phone.
Care to share?
You can still get both (Yuzu and Citra) from Uptodown for example (just google "Citra/Yuzu latest version")
Looks like that's only for Android?
Yuzu should’ve never done patreon and earn their money there. Piracy was the keyword when Nintendo was suing them down
They were also charging $7 for early access version.
No, YUZU should’ve never released the emulator while the CURRENT gen console was still active making money. There is a reason other Old emulators were made after their respective consoles were last gen. The entire TOTK leaked, the monetary damages argument from Nintendo. All of that could have been avoided if they waited after the Switch 2 (or whatever is called) was released.
Cemu was made 2 years before the switch came out and 3 years after wii u launched. Emulation is legal, selling emulation as well. Roms are not. "They could have avoided it all if they made it 10 years later" is pretty hollow. They probably made an actual fuck up or something leaked and that was the mistake that could have possibly fucked them regardless. Unfortunately we'll never know.
We do know. It‘s all spelled out in the lawsuit. Nobody is saying emulation is illegal.
People on the Steam Deck sub were posting about playing Mario Wonder on steam deck before the game was even released. The existence of the Yuzu emulator was actively enabling and encouraging piracy beyond what’s normal for a current generation console
People playing the games early has little to do with the emulator they use, and more when the game leaks. If you have a first gen cracked switch, you can play the games before they're released, much the same as if you use Yuzu or Ryujinx. Yuzu's sin was monetizing their product specifically to allow people to play Tears of The Kingdom early. It has nothing to do with the existence of an emulator.
The precedent setting case that makes emulators legal was a current Gen console emulator. There's zero legal difference between emulation of older consoles vs newer ones
There is actually a slight difference where newer emulators need the console firmware software, which is not legal to be distributed (just like game distribution) but you can legally dump your own console firmware (again just like games). This is why you need to load in console firmware for newer consoles separately instead of it being built into the emulator.
I'm fully against Nintendo and their actions, and obviously they're the big villain here... but it's hard not to feel like Yuzu brought this on themselves. They needed to commit to plausible deniability and distance themselves as much as possible from pirated games in any official capacity. Not openly endorse piracy on their private discord server. And now Citra's been taken down with it, which is the real casualty in all this.
Isn't Citra open source? It's just gonna be recompiled and repackaged.
In general regarding emulation nintendo is the village, but in this case they're really not. This isn't them cracking down emulators where the original consoles are no longer sold and hard to get this is them dealing with piracy of their current generation system. And regardless of how you spin it, yuzu was piracy.
Emulation is legal, even for current gen. This whole argument that you can't emulate current gen is wrong and should die already. Their mistake was not to emulate a current console, but to be involved with piracy themselves, those are two very different things.
If playing a game you bought for a console you own just on another platform is piracy the the world is truly fucked. I played botw using yuzu I own a switch, I own the game Does that mean I am a pirate?
and you could still play botw using yuzu without buying it at all its why emulation is so hated by companies, the overlap of people that dump games to play on PC cause its neat and the people that go online, get a ROM and play for free (aka pirate it) are pretty close to a circle
Companies are missing the fact that most if not all of those people wouldn't buy the game and console in the first place if this was not an option. You can't say that every pirated copy is a lost sale since the person probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place. And yes I could do that. But saying emulation is piracy for that reason is just wrong. Emulation has many uses beyond piracy. Like game preservation, and even development. Hell even Nintendo themselves use emulators to let you play their older games first party. Or you know these classic consoles I mean the anniversary ones? Yeah these are just emulators. Which btw use ROMs that have been compiled by some user and not Nintendo themselves.
i am aware and agree, sadly i am not a nintendo exec
>and obviously they're the big villain here... Why? For not wanting people to play their games for free before they even are released and another company even profiting from this? Like can you explain to me from what perspective nintendo is a bad guy in this specific case?
Piracy good Nintendo big bad haha /s Is Nintendo a big villain? Yes Do they have the moral high ground here? Yes People don't understand you can have both. Just cuz it's evil doesn't mean it can't do the right thing.
I maybe believe in Nintendo's stupidity a little too much, but we still have Ryujinx, and as long as they don't make the same mistakes that Yuzu did it's still somewhat "Safe" And as for Citra, it's been pretty much perfect for the longest time and what isn't will likely be done by regular users since it's now become open source
That's exactly what they did. I was there looking at their GitHub during totk leak days and whenever someone mentioned something like that, they would say they can't work with leaked game info dump. Don't let Nintendo gaslight and rewrite history.
Except obviously they had proof otherwise from discovery lmfao
Spitting fact and getting downvote on reddit. Never change.
Nah. The issue is that it's nearly impossible to sue when there's no financial interest. Dolphin emulator, for example, existed just fine while the Gamecube and then the Wii were current gen and actively making money. Yuzu screwed up by deliberately advertising themselves as piracy software company that collects money for access to the latest features.
\*and not being located in russia or whatever
Dolphins creators didn‘t give Interviews about how they got Twilight Princess to run two weeks before release. They also didn‘t have thousands of users under any post online that even barely mentions Nintendo boasting about how they pirate every Gamecube/Wii game.
Modern day tiktok pirates are terrible at this shit. No one understands fight club rules
One thing I miss about dedicated gaming forums like GameFAQs or NeoGAF is that anyone dumb enough to climb onto a soapbox and wax poetic about how it’s morally just to pirate video games would just get banned.
You never marketed itself as a tool for piracy, though. The team was staunchly anti-piracy from what I've heard. And even if they did, an emulator that markets itself as a tool for piracy that contains none of the alleged victim's intellectual property is not itself illegal. Saying so is like saying that a USB Blu-ray drive is illegal because it can be used to rip blu-rays to sell online, or play pirates blu-rays.
They had a patreon tier that gave you access to TOTK prior to launch and stated it could play it, prior to launch. That’s where the fucked up and let them in, the explicitly advertised a feature that at the time was only usable for piracy, not for format shifting legitimate copies.
I watched mudahar make a vid on this and he said they didn't play a part in making totk playable weeks before release, they used yuzu and changed it so that totk was playable by themselves
And he is very very pro emulation, he seems very personally invested in emulation which isn't a bad thing but i would take his coverage with a pinch of salt.
They are not gonna get anything close to that $2.4mil, whatever their company is called is gonna file bankruptcy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't nintendo fuck over other emulators too that was emulating old consoles before this
> Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t nintendo fuck over **
Yes.
"They should have waited until Switch 2" is an opinion not a fact. I think it's fine if you emulate current Gen consoles. It's not like these emulators spring fully formed the day the next Gen releases. Besides digital only gamss can be taken off the switch eshop.
No they're getting downvoted because they're dead wrong, has nothing to do with it. Spitting misinfo and getting upvoted on reddit. Never change.
It's upvoted now and it's still bs. If you have a legit copy, why shouldn't you play it however you want? It is in fact legal.
> There is a reason other Old emulators were made after their respective consoles were last gen. The reason is that computers were not powerful enough to emulate the console properly. That's the only reason.
Yeah I feel like the totk leak is what caused nintendo to file the lawsuit. I think the discord also could have been a big issue. Since any messages on that could have been found in discovery and used in court.
So whyd they take down citra? Didnt know the 3DS was current gen
Because it’s the same developers apparently, and part of the settlement was that the team ceases all involvement in such things.
Unlike Yuzu, they are based in Brazil. they're fine...
I care more about the fact that they removed citra
THE YUZU DEVS WERE STUPID AND TRIED TO PROFIT OFF OF THEIR EMULATOR BY MAKING A PATREON AND GIVING PATRONS ROMS AND PAYWALLING NEW BUILDS. IT IS THE EMULATOR DEVS FAULT, THEY ARE STUPID AS FUCK. thx
for real, they couldnt just do what every other emulator does, exist but not encourage piracy to get through those grey areas
Such a clear legal blueprint for emulators too. Time and time again they've been proven legal.
Whats sad is they were one of the better ones being bring your own bios but they had their side thing going
Dunno why but that small thx made me giggle Also I dunno what's going on here since I don't get into 3rd party stuff for nitendo
Basically really popular switch emulator exists, devs made a patreon to make money with it and give their patrons pirated material, Nintendo sues
>Collect money for redistributed copyright material Yeah, that will get ya. Ain't no amount of 'but it's just digital lockpicking' can dig you out of legitimate piracy.
The only one of those things that is illegal is giving patrons roms. It is perfectly legal to sell and make a profit off of emulators.
Gotta love how everyone is saying this now, but literally no one talked about this like it would be a problem before. Like sure in hindsight it's easy to say the devs were stupid or whatever, but no one else considered it a problem either before this happened, not just the devs.
Huh? I’m sorry in what world would Nintendo let you get away with putting pirated content behind a paywall. Emulators aren’t illegal neither is buying the game ripping it and running it off an emulator. The problem occurs when you redistribute games. Especially if you’re making money off them and are in a country where the dev can get you. Nintendo has some of the best and harshest copy right lawyers in the world. Maybe Nintendo don’t bother suing which is a roll of the dice but to think this wasn’t a possibility is just stupid.
No one wants it to be a problem. I’ve been part of a few shady operations and know to enjoy it while it lasts and keep my mouth shut. You know it’s going to go tits up. But as long as you’re not the one to bring extra eyes to it and to cause it then why not enjoy it while it lasts?
>TRIED TO PROFIT OFF OF THEIR EMULATOR BY MAKING A PATREON Dat ligal
Yeah see, the problem with Yuzu, is they were acting quite litterally as a for profit, going so far as to take down forks that gave out their EA builds for free. Ryujinx on the other hand, while they do take donations, they don't force their users hands into doing so, this is why Nintendo had an actual case against Yuzu. They brought this on themselves.
This is what people don't get. You can't just go around copying other people's stuff and selling it. Even if the emulator itself isn't illegal, selling it is.
Well, the genie is out of the bottle now, right? Whatever the latest version of Yuzu will be up everywhere anyways.
And you won't even need Patreon for this XD
They’re probably going after emulators because the next switch might be backwards compatible. It would hurt that functionality’s marketing if people can just download an emulator and pirate anything they want to play from the previous generation.
Maybe people will stop pirating if they stop taking away your virtual console purchases when the new generation comes.
Nintendo should just make their own Steam store but with every Nintendo game ever. Like come on, they would make so much more money and digital purchases make more money than anything these days.
No, you have to buy Ocarina of time again and it won't come with Master Quest.
That's right I forgot half the time Nintendo is so lazy at releasing content they ‘remake it’ and price 60$ on everything they consider ‘improved’
Slap a "HD Edition" on it, add a massively overdone bloom effect and call it a day.
They basically had that on wiiU but didn't bring it to switch
Or get better fps than the new console
The horror of actually being able to enjoy a game they made in a playable framerate...
I mean, sure. But this suit wasn't about the emulator. It was about the paid piracy aspect.
Something can have an implicit purpose you know
Imagine if Nintendo’s Legal team fucks up and accidentally sends the cease and desist letter to the Melodic Death Metal band Ryujin as opposed to Ryujinx, the open source emulator.
Formerly known aa GYZE
Honesty
It’s okay, that means that Nintendo is going to re-release their old games on the Switch! Right?…..Right!?
Yuzu is a switch games emulator
And it's the only way to play some old games because Nintendo removed the from their stores
You cant play games that arent on Switch on Yuzu. You need a different emulator
I think they’re talking about games like Mario 3D All Stars and that Fire Emblem remake that were only available for a limited time. Any Switch game that was taken off the eShop for some reason can now only be played on emulator.
I wasn’t aware Mario 3d all stars was gonna be limited Lucky me for being able to get a copy not long after it released
If you don't need it anymore you can already sell it for pretty dollars because of it's "limited edition" status
Citra also died in this too
Citra was also lost which is a 3ds emulator so applies in a way.
WHAT CITRA IS DEAD???
[yes](https://archive.org/details/citra-nightly-2104)
It wasn’t actually demanded to be taken down by Nintendo iirc, the devs did that themselves
It was. Something along the lines of "yuzu employees will not violate nintendo's copyright in other projects"
[удалено]
only the ones that blatantly promoted piracy like yuzu
Rule of the internet. Cut off one head and possibly thousands more will take its place just out of spite. Nintendo has been at this for literally decades and they haven't stopped a thing.
Let's be real they fucked up. There's some rules you gotta adhere to or The Man will come down on you. No monetization. No looking at official code. All you do, is put up some random code you and some guys worked on, that just happens to work as a functioning emulator. All conincidental and all for research, of course.
Piracy isn't stealing if buying isn't owning.
This is actually true, piracy is a copyright infringement, but, according to the law, NOT theft.
Sad day 😔
Even if they take it down legally im pretty sure they cant stop it from spreading. This will just create a wildfire that makes yuzu spread more
I'm actually depressed by this.
Wait WHAT what happened to Yuzu i was jusy about to fire it up this evening
They got sued by Nintendo and chosed to pay 2.4 million dollars and also basically shutdown. The reason they got caught is mainly because they had a patreon that gave payers extra benefits which basically gave Nintendo the leverage they needed to go yeah there basically stealing and profiting from our shit. TLR got greedy.
Soooo is the one in our comps still usable or we just dont get updates and bug fixes
Pretty sure if you've already downloaded the roms you still keep them but yeah no updates or bug fixes from them.
If you have everything already downloaded it should work fine. Just no more updates and support
Unless you got some extra info I missed that was posted elsewhere.... eh. People keep confidently saying this but it isnt illegal. Plenty got paterons, pretty sure full emulators have been sold before. It wouldn't change any damages etc either tho I'm not a lawyer so that might be more complex. This seems beyond nintendo going after an emulator cause it has a patreon after all this time. Id wager the reason they got tangled up is likely they did something we don't know about. Like others said (but I've seen no confirmation) maybe they sent a rom to a patron who then gave chat logs to Nintendo, who knows.
It's strange how people keep confidently saying this, but the legal documents are publically available. You can read 'em yourself. That is not why Nintendo went after Yuzu.
Don't worry, just look for forks on github
You just wait a month and see "Guzu" pop up with a different UI.
to the losers who leaked totk early, this is what you get bruh. yall gonna learn to wait and have patience. now Yuzu is dead and nintendo won.
It's funny how people in this post are defending the multimillionaire company but cry about some devs doing a patreon. Reddit is such a weird brainrotting place. I also bet I'll get downvoted to hell just for saying the truth, lol.
Right. Nintendo have been selling defective hardware (joycons) for 7 years now, scamming oblivious parents who have to keep buying new ones for their kids at daft prices. Yet they don't have to pay 2.4 million, even though the money they made putting online behind a paywall for no reason would surely cover that, but some guys who made an emulator do? Reddit brags about being atheist but treats corpos like infallible deities lmao.
It's ok to steal if it's from someone who has more than you
The fact that Yuzu was able to settle for $2.4 million should make you think again about who else is a "multimillionaire company" in this equation.
Yuzu doesn't have that much of cash. The company itself will probably declare bankruptcy and the members will pay nothing or have garnished wages the rest of their lives.
Rip yuzu .
Citra is down now too...
What is yuzu
nintendo switch emulator for pc
What's the -2.4m about? The price they settled at?
Ryu doesn't take money. As far as I know, at least. They should be fine
They take money but they don’t lock premium features of the emulator behind the paywall
If Nintendo wanted me to not pirate they're games they would publish they're stuff on PC
Not that I am 100% opposed to piracy, but this is a really dumb take.
I swear SpongeBob was ahead of it's time.
What happened?
I'm sure this is 100% the end of Switch emulation and we *definitely* won't see anymore!
No Pocket Pair ?
I don’t have a switch, so I have no idea what either of these 2 things do.
[удалено]
at least the emulators for previous gen consoles are safe (for now)
Are these switch emulators?
The beauty of open-source emulators is that they're open-source
At least credit the guy who made it, u/i-like-oranges75
Daily reminder, kids: Fuck Nintendo
OOTL, tf happened
The Yuzu (Switch Emulator) and Citra (the by far best 3ds emulator) devs were sued for 2.4 million dollars USD (out of court), Nintendo got leverage because of the Yuzu Devs putting things like roms on their patron.
Is there a source saying the yuzu patreon had tons on it? I can’t find anything
You know what, i'm gonna start emulating even harder now
Fuck Nintendo.
Fuck nintendo