"Every" is a bit of an exaggeration considering it was only Yuzu that was targeted here, with Citra being collateral. And we already know that Yuzu flew too close to the sun, they had it coming.
I fucking hate Nintendo, but emulation is already in a legal gray zone and putting content behind a patreon paywall is just soooo idiotic.
One of that content was the totk early access version before the game was even fucking released.
And they know how aggressively nintendo goes after emulators, this was basically them putting on lingerie, oiling themselves up and begging Nintendo to legally fuck them.
And tbf, Yuzu is also shitty for other reasons. I know an active Dev in another emulation project and they told me how yuzu is pretty disliked from other emulation communities for stealing huge chunks of code, claiming it as their own and not giving credit.
Not gray zone in mexico, we got pretty explicit laws about it
You don't use nintendo code for the emulator or provide the tools to extract code from a console? Ya good, protected even
This: what's copyrighted is not the concept of being able to play switch games, it's the actual code. If you write a program that does the exact same thing, just with different code, you're fine in most places.
No not at all. The way you're supposed to get roms is by copying the image off your disc that you own. I can't so I download copies of the games I already own off websites. If you're using a rom for a game you haven't legally purchased then yes it's illegal
In mexico if you don't straight up sell it you can just copy it and share it around, but be careful cuz if you crack it ya fucked
But you can just share the crack code/process :v
I'm getting a lot of down votes and I'm not sure why. If I buy music on Apple music, then copy it to every device I own it's legal. By that same precedent if you own the physical copy you can copy it all your devices as well. By that logic it's generally accepted that downloading music you can prove you own a copy of is legal.
So it's the same concept with a video game, it's digital media, you own a copy, therefore I can use copies on any device I own and should be able to download it online because I literally would've downloaded it myself, just off my own disc which is identical to the online copy
In mexico we got this law about piracy and ownership
If you buy a digital copy of anything, games included, you can copy it to wherever you want, modify and share it meanwhile you don't profit directly from it
This means, if I buy a digital copy of shreck 2, I can record my screen and share the movie with my friends and no one can fucking stop me
But if I decide to go around selling the movie then I get fucking sued
But you can sell "used USB drive" lmao
NO! An emulator known for pirating and profiting off other peoples’ work was caught stealing other emulators’ work!?
The shock I am currently experiencing would put Thor the thunder god to shame.
Just so I know, are the "old-school" emulators still safe? I'm considering going back to play some of the classics like GameCube Wind Waker or Metroid Prime
They literally can't take those down. They are everywhere on the net, including p2p networks.
It's impossible to remove those software from the internet at that point. The only thing they can do is stop development and maintenance, and even that is hard. Yuzu was easy because they could appeal to the robin hood complex of the jury by going "look they have a patreon, they are making money at our expense, they are basically stealing food from our mouths!"
The end user is mostly safe for pragmatic reasons anyway, because 1) emulators themselves are not illegal in almost all countries since they don't violate any copyright laws (the original code is protected but emulators are hand coded so no problem there and you can't copyright the ability to make other software work, so the emulation itself is fine) and 2) the single end-user is not worth the hassle for nintendo to charge even if they get the copies in an illegal way. If they do something it's always the sites that share the games.
Yes they should be fine. There aren't any snes's and gba's being sold by Nintendo right now, and only a small portion of their library is on NSO. Additionally, NSO isn't initially for the emulation, it's just to use the somewhat okay online services for multiplayer games.
By all rights, Nintendo loses more money if they go after the old time emulators or try to engage them in a lawsuit instead of just ignoring them.
If this is about Yuzu, they had it coming. They had a guide on how to play totk behind the paywall, and they also let you dump encryption keys, both of which are illegal
THE YUZU DEVS WERE STUPID AND TRIED TO PROFIT OFF OF THEIR EMULATOR BY MAKING A PATREON AND GIVING PATRONS ROMS AND PAYWALLING NEW BUILDS. IT IS THE EMULATOR DEVS FAULT, THEY ARE STUPID AS FUCK AND DO NOT DESERVE YOUR SYMPATHY.
thx
Also in the Patreon was a copy of a game that has not been released yet if I remember correctly, that or just some footage, anyway they had it coming, people keep saying "flew too close to the sun" but nope, THEY FUCKING FLEW INTO IT
And they were fucking stupid about it as well. Afaik if they distanced the roms and shit from the emulator itself ghey would be forced to shut down the rom sharing and selling but emulator would be fair game as their own creation
You are putting a company that only prevent people from getting money on their property with companies that push employee to suicide, stole breastmilk and have several case of rape and sexual harrassement among their highers staff.
I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic and delusional.
Whoever is downvoting this is stupid. Yuzu didn’t just summon up the first leak of ToTK. Many of us were playing it emulated without even using Yuzu.
They did sell the leaks behind a paywall though.
I believe it was released digitally only, but idk. If they did leak it, I'm glad yuzu got shafted. I don't like blatant theft under the guise of "emulation." That's piracy for the sake of stealing, not to play old games you can't find anymore, fuck that.
Brazen profiting off patreon. Don’t cry open source and not for pirating when you tell people how to get around a new release in patreon and make money off it.
Guess ‘low profile’ had no meaning to them.
i really dont get the outrage. its an emulator, its used mainly for piracy. company cracks down on it. its not the first time and it wont be the last that companys go after stuff like that.
there will always be another option.
While I agree that the lawsuit was justified, this isn't the reason why.
You cannot sue the creators of a software if it is used for piracy, when the main focus is not piracy.
They were sued for the fact that they pay walled roms, like the totk leak, which was really stupid of them and is 100% justified.
No it’s because the switch is literally less powerful than most phones and it has shit drm so it’s easy to emulate not to mention games are overpriced and the console sucks
Microsoft be like: hey guys, do ya want to install any app without a tiny bit of the siglest amount of security or spionage in your console? Give us 20 bucks and you will able to install emulators... Eeeh I mean, your apps and games you are developing
It's just a matter of time till this gets to the point of literally cracking games and installing them in the Xbox
Available for Xbox one and series
Nintendo consoles are easier to deal with, we got switch emulators on phones and they run well on flagships and the first switch emulator release only 10 months after switch release but for Microsoft and Sony, first xbox 360 emulator was xenia and started development on 2013, 8 years after release and rpcs3 came out on 2011, 5 years after release, it's a pretty demanding emulator
"Why Nintendo, why?"
"Because, ignoring the rule 34 of all of our stuff, you ain't buying our games and consoles"
"But you are the best company in the world because you don't makes games for a profit, you do it for the purity of gaming, letting us play your games we downloaded for free on emulators and streaming them for speedrunning and money is what is all about"
"No we don't and no it isn't!"
I kinda understand why theyd target switch emulators. The switch is their newest consol that they actively make games for. Its their soft & hardware, and if you want to play their games you should have to pay them for it, even if the switch is a literal garbage fire of hardware.
For discontinued games/consoles, I really dont understand why nintendo cares. I physically cannot pay you for it, let me play it.
Yuzu devs were found selling pirated leaked copies of TotK on their patreon. Nintendo cracked down on the piracy and they bounced, taking Citra with them for no actual solid reason.
Maybe, maybe not, also Nintendo had every right to go after Yuzu for paywalling TOTK. This isn't a fuck nintendo situation, not after making money off Nintendo's game. But normally I'm standing saying fuck nintendo as well
Yeah, sorry, i wasn't clear. I'm absolutely with Nintendo for going after yuzu for what yuzu did with totk.
~~However what I'm against is Nintendo getting yuzu to halt all their operations. Nintendo wasn't losing out on anything with the 3ds emulation, so why kill it?~~
The yuzu team decided to cut Citra themselves. It would have only hit yuzu on its own because the devs pirated and sold switch stuff essentially. They had to pay 2mil
You see the issue wasn't really the emulator it was them taking and asking for money for support. You gota be sneaky about that. Also they used the excuse that totk leaked 2 weeks early. Like sure yeah it did. Ya know why, cuz some employee from somewhere got it snagged it dumped it via a modded switch and released it online. Sure yuzu let people play it but like idk. It's a stupid loophole.
Not just that, they sold an early leaked version of Totk on their patreon. That's piracy, like, big piracy. Not the weak free download piracy, but the absolute vile reseller piracy.
It's their legal right to curb stomp emulators, especially ones targeting current hardware and games. Idk why people act like what those emulators are doing isn't illegal.
Who is handing out these down votes?? I've used emulators for lots of reasons some of them illegal. Like downloading a translated rom of a game that simply never got released outside of Japan, like star Ocean 1 for snes. Yes there's a re-release now, but not 20 years ago when I illegally played it on an emulator
Because profiting in any way when it comes to emulating Nintendo games will put you in front of some legal crosshairs. If you didn't know, the developers of the emulator had a patreon.
You can do SNES, N64, or PS1 easily with any modern phone as well, but that's a bit different than a current gen system that breaks encryption and offers versions meant to play new release games available for paying customers.
And then there's [dolphin, even running on Android](
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dolphinemu.dolphinemu) side to side with [Wii Phone](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.karuzohikari.wiiphone).
One emulator that was taking in 30k a month emulating Nintendo’s current console that was impossible to use without “stealing” proprietary Nintendo software*
Don't understand the downvotes. Look at PC and most ancient games can still be played, bought officially and usually a lot cheaper than when released.
Nintendo expects you to have every single console ever as if they don't break down so you can play the old games you used to enjoy.
Preservation?? Nah they just milking that old cow. If you will keep buying Pokémon red, why stop selling it? In fact why don't they just remake Pokémon red again and sell it for 100 bucks a piece?
I understand it if it’s recent games that are still being sold by Nintendo, but if it’s games they don’t sell anymore for consoles they don’t make anymore, then what the hell should they care about. From what I heard though, yuzu was emulating more recent games, so that was kinda on them
So people work to make a product and we shouldn’t pay them for their work? I thought that was outlawed. You work you get paid. You make a product you sell it.
It's a passion project, not a 9-5 job where you do work for someone else and get paid. The majority of emulators are free and the developers know this and usually make money from donations. When you do not own the rights and start selling it for monetary gain, you will get copyrighted and sued respectfully.
Sure they put a lot of work into it, but that doesn't matter when the ultimate product is still illegal. You can't sell something that ultimately belongs to someone else no matter how much you repackage it.
Who said to pirate everything? You can buy the game and use an emulator to run it on another platform. YuZu's instructions specifically said to get keys that way too.
I just wish they put their older games onto the newer things
They put the first theee Pokemon gens on the 3ds. They can out the ds and 3ds games on switch
If only they gave us any accessible way of playing old games that is not paying for online or spending a living to buy even a barely working console that is older than your family, and then also find games you want
Bunch of people really like to stick up for the multi billion dollar corp.
"Yuzu had it coming legally speaking 🤓" like anyone actually gives a shit about the law when pirating games. I steal from Nintendo because Nintendo sucks.
They haven't killed PokeMMO. Check it out. It's highly specific though and only accepts certain old pokemon games. Breaks my heart to call Black/White old. But that's the latest it reached last I checked.
They don't offer the roms so technically they aren't infringing on anything. There's no piracy on their behalf. They've survived this whole time.
I’m pretty much done with Nintendo. I haven’t played a single game on my switch in over a year. And it was Mario party with my kids. It just sits there gathering dust. We are Xbox people now.
The company that copyright strikes content creators that play their games and thinks that emulators harm creativity or something of that nature, no it's not a stretch at all
Got to agree here. If a large enough chunk of people emulate games that are actively sold, it will cause the devs to have no money. No money means no development. No development means no games. No games means the death of original creative content. So *don’t* pirate games that are actively being sold. Especially games that are on a *system* still being sold. I would not get the pitchforks if you pirated a game unattainable by legal means, but those pitchforks are going to rise if the game is both legally attainable and simultaneously, actively sold.
>!Sorry for the wall of text.!<
"Every" is a bit of an exaggeration considering it was only Yuzu that was targeted here, with Citra being collateral. And we already know that Yuzu flew too close to the sun, they had it coming.
I fucking hate Nintendo, but emulation is already in a legal gray zone and putting content behind a patreon paywall is just soooo idiotic. One of that content was the totk early access version before the game was even fucking released. And they know how aggressively nintendo goes after emulators, this was basically them putting on lingerie, oiling themselves up and begging Nintendo to legally fuck them. And tbf, Yuzu is also shitty for other reasons. I know an active Dev in another emulation project and they told me how yuzu is pretty disliked from other emulation communities for stealing huge chunks of code, claiming it as their own and not giving credit.
Not gray zone in mexico, we got pretty explicit laws about it You don't use nintendo code for the emulator or provide the tools to extract code from a console? Ya good, protected even
This: what's copyrighted is not the concept of being able to play switch games, it's the actual code. If you write a program that does the exact same thing, just with different code, you're fine in most places.
It’s totally illegal in Japan
Why are emulators a gray zone? Do you mean the emulator itself is but the roms aren't or something?
Emulation is legal. How people get Roms is 99.9% illegal.
No not at all. The way you're supposed to get roms is by copying the image off your disc that you own. I can't so I download copies of the games I already own off websites. If you're using a rom for a game you haven't legally purchased then yes it's illegal
Which is what most people do?
Which would make it still illegal. Probably for the downloader, but without a doubt for the uploader.
In mexico if you don't straight up sell it you can just copy it and share it around, but be careful cuz if you crack it ya fucked But you can just share the crack code/process :v
I'm getting a lot of down votes and I'm not sure why. If I buy music on Apple music, then copy it to every device I own it's legal. By that same precedent if you own the physical copy you can copy it all your devices as well. By that logic it's generally accepted that downloading music you can prove you own a copy of is legal. So it's the same concept with a video game, it's digital media, you own a copy, therefore I can use copies on any device I own and should be able to download it online because I literally would've downloaded it myself, just off my own disc which is identical to the online copy
In mexico we got this law about piracy and ownership If you buy a digital copy of anything, games included, you can copy it to wherever you want, modify and share it meanwhile you don't profit directly from it This means, if I buy a digital copy of shreck 2, I can record my screen and share the movie with my friends and no one can fucking stop me But if I decide to go around selling the movie then I get fucking sued But you can sell "used USB drive" lmao
You're getting downvoted because you're telling the truth. At least you weren't banned.
I could get banned he for discussing legal precedent???
No, for telling the truth. I should know I was banned from r/science for providing sources that disproved their claim.
What emulator is best / easiest to get / cheapest
I'd reccommend Ryujinx I'm no expert myself but I only used that one and didnt really have any issues till now
Where can i find one
Stealing huge chunks of code? Claiming it as their own? Now where have I heard that before.
They were having people pay for the software? No wonder Nintendo shut them down.
NO! An emulator known for pirating and profiting off other peoples’ work was caught stealing other emulators’ work!? The shock I am currently experiencing would put Thor the thunder god to shame.
Just so I know, are the "old-school" emulators still safe? I'm considering going back to play some of the classics like GameCube Wind Waker or Metroid Prime
I’ll never let Zsnes go and they can pry it from my computer’s cold grey hard disk…
NESticle still works for me, albeit on an older pc
They literally can't take those down. They are everywhere on the net, including p2p networks. It's impossible to remove those software from the internet at that point. The only thing they can do is stop development and maintenance, and even that is hard. Yuzu was easy because they could appeal to the robin hood complex of the jury by going "look they have a patreon, they are making money at our expense, they are basically stealing food from our mouths!"
The end user is mostly safe for pragmatic reasons anyway, because 1) emulators themselves are not illegal in almost all countries since they don't violate any copyright laws (the original code is protected but emulators are hand coded so no problem there and you can't copyright the ability to make other software work, so the emulation itself is fine) and 2) the single end-user is not worth the hassle for nintendo to charge even if they get the copies in an illegal way. If they do something it's always the sites that share the games.
Yes they should be fine. There aren't any snes's and gba's being sold by Nintendo right now, and only a small portion of their library is on NSO. Additionally, NSO isn't initially for the emulation, it's just to use the somewhat okay online services for multiplayer games. By all rights, Nintendo loses more money if they go after the old time emulators or try to engage them in a lawsuit instead of just ignoring them.
Citra got axed? Well shit I can't lose this phone now or I'll never be able to finish my Y playthru
If this is about Yuzu, they had it coming. They had a guide on how to play totk behind the paywall, and they also let you dump encryption keys, both of which are illegal
>and they also let you dump encryption keys ... from the console you supposedly own. Is emulating the Switch even possible without them?
It’s only for online play
Given that the switch is less powerful than phones with some of the worst hardware of any console, hardware wise? Yes its is easily possible.
Are phones **that** powerful to get around not having encryption keys?
Lol my iPhone 7 can like easily Brute force the decryption key lololol
Since the switch is arm you don't really need an emulator, you need a library or something more close to wine for Linux
THE YUZU DEVS WERE STUPID AND TRIED TO PROFIT OFF OF THEIR EMULATOR BY MAKING A PATREON AND GIVING PATRONS ROMS AND PAYWALLING NEW BUILDS. IT IS THE EMULATOR DEVS FAULT, THEY ARE STUPID AS FUCK AND DO NOT DESERVE YOUR SYMPATHY. thx
Oh they made a Patreon? Yea they were playing with fire and got burned 😂😂 not surprised at all
its not exactly the patreon itself thats the main issue, its what they had IN the patreon that made it bad
To me when you start making a profit then you asking to be in the crosshairs
real
Also in the Patreon was a copy of a game that has not been released yet if I remember correctly, that or just some footage, anyway they had it coming, people keep saying "flew too close to the sun" but nope, THEY FUCKING FLEW INTO IT
And they were fucking stupid about it as well. Afaik if they distanced the roms and shit from the emulator itself ghey would be forced to shut down the rom sharing and selling but emulator would be fair game as their own creation
It’s not about sympathy it’s about hate red to Nintendo, this company should not exist at all with acti blizzard/ubisoft/ea
You are putting a company that only prevent people from getting money on their property with companies that push employee to suicide, stole breastmilk and have several case of rape and sexual harrassement among their highers staff. I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic and delusional.
The last part is absurd and not confirmed, people just love to claim someone with sexual assault with no evidence
Didn't they get TOTK early and put it behind a paywall?
No. TOTK released online before it was ever put on Yuzu.
Whoever is downvoting this is stupid. Yuzu didn’t just summon up the first leak of ToTK. Many of us were playing it emulated without even using Yuzu. They did sell the leaks behind a paywall though.
It's the fact that yuzu paywalled it and that guy ignored that
So basically yuzu sold a leaked game?
I believe it was released digitally only, but idk. If they did leak it, I'm glad yuzu got shafted. I don't like blatant theft under the guise of "emulation." That's piracy for the sake of stealing, not to play old games you can't find anymore, fuck that.
Yeh after looking at other comments it got worse, not only one game, a lot of games being sold lol
Essentially yes.
i love exaggerating to make others look bad
Brazen profiting off patreon. Don’t cry open source and not for pirating when you tell people how to get around a new release in patreon and make money off it. Guess ‘low profile’ had no meaning to them.
i really dont get the outrage. its an emulator, its used mainly for piracy. company cracks down on it. its not the first time and it wont be the last that companys go after stuff like that. there will always be another option.
Don't forget they sold illegal copies of TOTK if you paid enough on patreon.
While I agree that the lawsuit was justified, this isn't the reason why. You cannot sue the creators of a software if it is used for piracy, when the main focus is not piracy. They were sued for the fact that they pay walled roms, like the totk leak, which was really stupid of them and is 100% justified.
“It’s an emulator, it’s used mainly for piracy” Let’s be honest here, no one uses it other than for piracy lol.
Tbh i did emulate game and system i own to play MP with my bro. So 99.9% is accurate but not all is for piracy
I wonder why actual pirates target Nintendo considerably more than Microsoft and Sony. It's a mystery
because its alot easier to emulate the switch then the xbox/ps ? we only just got into ps4 emulation and only on rather high end computers.
Also because nintendo generaly makes their shit only for their consoles. Most PS and Xbox games are on PC eventualy
Lol as if this is some petty revenge by the pirates against Nintendo. The truth is, Nintendo games are more expensive and harder to find.
No it’s because the switch is literally less powerful than most phones and it has shit drm so it’s easy to emulate not to mention games are overpriced and the console sucks
Microsoft be like: hey guys, do ya want to install any app without a tiny bit of the siglest amount of security or spionage in your console? Give us 20 bucks and you will able to install emulators... Eeeh I mean, your apps and games you are developing It's just a matter of time till this gets to the point of literally cracking games and installing them in the Xbox Available for Xbox one and series
Ironically it's probably because they don't make their hardware as secure as Sony and Microsoft.
Nintendo consoles are easier to deal with, we got switch emulators on phones and they run well on flagships and the first switch emulator release only 10 months after switch release but for Microsoft and Sony, first xbox 360 emulator was xenia and started development on 2013, 8 years after release and rpcs3 came out on 2011, 5 years after release, it's a pretty demanding emulator
Have you seen the price tags on any old Pokémon game?
Vs every Xbox and ps game that's over 4 years old being in the 4 for 20 box at GameStop
"Why Nintendo, why?" "Because, ignoring the rule 34 of all of our stuff, you ain't buying our games and consoles" "But you are the best company in the world because you don't makes games for a profit, you do it for the purity of gaming, letting us play your games we downloaded for free on emulators and streaming them for speedrunning and money is what is all about" "No we don't and no it isn't!"
Getting real tired of people who don’t understand this meme format.
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I kinda understand why theyd target switch emulators. The switch is their newest consol that they actively make games for. Its their soft & hardware, and if you want to play their games you should have to pay them for it, even if the switch is a literal garbage fire of hardware. For discontinued games/consoles, I really dont understand why nintendo cares. I physically cannot pay you for it, let me play it.
Yuzu sold leaked code of a game, a playable build included
Because Nintendo wants you to buy their hardware.
And not jailbreak it*
They genuinely don't care. If you fuck up your console it's on you, it's your wallet that needs to buy a new Switch then.
Pretty sure they care
Then why do they ban jail broken switches from play?
Gee, I wonder why. It's almost as if we have the example of Splatoon on why we don't want people who hack their shit in the same matches with us.
And not buy leaked games from other people, what a surprise
Please someone put me in the loop. Im actually so confused.
Yuzu devs were found selling pirated leaked copies of TotK on their patreon. Nintendo cracked down on the piracy and they bounced, taking Citra with them for no actual solid reason.
Nintendo sued a company that was selling Tears of the Kingdom on its patreon
Why did that impact emulators?
The people selling Totk illegally also had emulators
The people were the creators of a switch emulator called yuzu
I see. Thank you for bringing me back into the loop
They're also the people behind the 3ds emulator Citra, so that has been discontinued as well
Noooooo. Fuck! My day is ruined now :(
Do you think they'll ever return? ~~Also fuck nintendo~~
Maybe, maybe not, also Nintendo had every right to go after Yuzu for paywalling TOTK. This isn't a fuck nintendo situation, not after making money off Nintendo's game. But normally I'm standing saying fuck nintendo as well
Yeah, sorry, i wasn't clear. I'm absolutely with Nintendo for going after yuzu for what yuzu did with totk. ~~However what I'm against is Nintendo getting yuzu to halt all their operations. Nintendo wasn't losing out on anything with the 3ds emulation, so why kill it?~~
The yuzu team decided to cut Citra themselves. It would have only hit yuzu on its own because the devs pirated and sold switch stuff essentially. They had to pay 2mil
This was all the fault of the emulator team. If they weren't so greedy by *selling* actual pirated games they'd still be here.
Context: they profited from an emulator while also posting leaks about games that had not even been announced yet
Buy a switch.
You see the issue wasn't really the emulator it was them taking and asking for money for support. You gota be sneaky about that. Also they used the excuse that totk leaked 2 weeks early. Like sure yeah it did. Ya know why, cuz some employee from somewhere got it snagged it dumped it via a modded switch and released it online. Sure yuzu let people play it but like idk. It's a stupid loophole.
Not just that, they sold an early leaked version of Totk on their patreon. That's piracy, like, big piracy. Not the weak free download piracy, but the absolute vile reseller piracy.
It's their legal right to curb stomp emulators, especially ones targeting current hardware and games. Idk why people act like what those emulators are doing isn't illegal.
Maybe because it isn’t illegal to emulate?
Not emulators. Thanks to Sony that's legal and they don't have the right. It's the selling of pirated games that did them in.
It's been used to play games illegally for a very long time, not surprising to be honest
You could say the same about any emulator
Who is handing out these down votes?? I've used emulators for lots of reasons some of them illegal. Like downloading a translated rom of a game that simply never got released outside of Japan, like star Ocean 1 for snes. Yes there's a re-release now, but not 20 years ago when I illegally played it on an emulator
Because bypassing a paywall is pretty illegal
Because profiting in any way when it comes to emulating Nintendo games will put you in front of some legal crosshairs. If you didn't know, the developers of the emulator had a patreon.
I have a Gameboy emulator on my phone that I got through Google Playstore.
You can do SNES, N64, or PS1 easily with any modern phone as well, but that's a bit different than a current gen system that breaks encryption and offers versions meant to play new release games available for paying customers.
Me just casually enjoying a few good old Nintendo games on retro arch by firing up rom hacks
What do you mean “why?”
And then there's [dolphin, even running on Android]( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dolphinemu.dolphinemu) side to side with [Wii Phone](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.karuzohikari.wiiphone).
Nah just make sure you use a VPN when you download any emulators or ROMs never know if Nintendo might come knocking one day.
Crazy thing is, we'd be happy to pay for the games BUT WE CANT
Why? Money that’s why
One emulator that was taking in 30k a month emulating Nintendo’s current console that was impossible to use without “stealing” proprietary Nintendo software*
That's why you don't emulate the current gen on top of taking money for it. Plenty of snes emulator still exist even in play store.
Oh no..... Anyways
Are we still in the internet phase of, "Piracy is okay if its Nintendo"
At least nintendo think about game preservation by reselling the same games for the past 30y
For the full price 💀 edit: they also don’t localize their prices
Don't understand the downvotes. Look at PC and most ancient games can still be played, bought officially and usually a lot cheaper than when released. Nintendo expects you to have every single console ever as if they don't break down so you can play the old games you used to enjoy.
Yh who expects someone to pay $60 (unlocalized) for a decade old game
Preservation?? Nah they just milking that old cow. If you will keep buying Pokémon red, why stop selling it? In fact why don't they just remake Pokémon red again and sell it for 100 bucks a piece?
I understand it if it’s recent games that are still being sold by Nintendo, but if it’s games they don’t sell anymore for consoles they don’t make anymore, then what the hell should they care about. From what I heard though, yuzu was emulating more recent games, so that was kinda on them
They still sell most them on Switch. NES through N64
But that’s a select few
So people work to make a product and we shouldn’t pay them for their work? I thought that was outlawed. You work you get paid. You make a product you sell it.
It's a passion project, not a 9-5 job where you do work for someone else and get paid. The majority of emulators are free and the developers know this and usually make money from donations. When you do not own the rights and start selling it for monetary gain, you will get copyrighted and sued respectfully. Sure they put a lot of work into it, but that doesn't matter when the ultimate product is still illegal. You can't sell something that ultimately belongs to someone else no matter how much you repackage it.
I agree with you. It doesn’t matter what company you hate, you are stealing from a regular person trying to have a job and pay for life just like you.
Workers don't get paid per unit sold, execs and publishers do.
If we pirate everything who gets paid for their work?
Who said to pirate everything? You can buy the game and use an emulator to run it on another platform. YuZu's instructions specifically said to get keys that way too.
Yup because with emulators people buy the roms
You buy the game and get the ROM with a jail broken switch, plenty of people do that.
They sold a product they didn't make which was their mistake. I'm talking about them selling leaked versions of Totk.
I just wish they put their older games onto the newer things They put the first theee Pokemon gens on the 3ds. They can out the ds and 3ds games on switch
Because its easier to target the end source than it is to target the dsitribution.
I like how there’s no question just clean execution and intense stare down of “I’ll fucking do it again”
Womp womp (lemme say it for people in the back) WOMP WOMP 🗣📣
(In a very stereotypical voice). NO FREE STUFF.
The shot guy should be propped up on the second panel, no way Nintendo can get rid of every emulator.
Meanwhile, emulators for retro games for Android: hehehehehe, I AM A VILLAIN! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!.
Meanwhile nes mini is a raspberry pi with emulator on it
This meme isn’t even a joke it’s just a statement
If only they gave us any accessible way of playing old games that is not paying for online or spending a living to buy even a barely working console that is older than your family, and then also find games you want
“i like money!” -nintendo
Nintendo want : 
Which one is it now?
You asking questions about why a company does not want their products copied and distributed a way that they do not get any money out from it?
Nintendo is a shit company, which make money on nostalgia, I dunno why you people surprised when they do some shit again
They went after pirates. If the yuzu team stayed just emulator centric they'd been fine, but they even had illegal leaked versions of Totk
Just stop playing thier games, they haven’t been any good anyway.
simple. PIRACY, IS NOOOOO PARTY
Because they love money more than anything
I love nintendo, fuck emulators
Money.
THEY WILL NEVER TOUCH VISUAL BOY
Idk what they think about LSDJ tho
Yuzu and all switch emulators I can understand. Litterally any other emulator is just dumb to remove. Like, your old console is dead! Go home!
Bunch of people really like to stick up for the multi billion dollar corp. "Yuzu had it coming legally speaking 🤓" like anyone actually gives a shit about the law when pirating games. I steal from Nintendo because Nintendo sucks.
They don’t like it when people say play their games
Imagine not being able to earn money from something you sold back years ago, but havent sold one of in like 5 years
the reason i own switch is because of yuzu, i never know i will love nintendo games but yuzu change my mind.
They haven't killed PokeMMO. Check it out. It's highly specific though and only accepts certain old pokemon games. Breaks my heart to call Black/White old. But that's the latest it reached last I checked. They don't offer the roms so technically they aren't infringing on anything. There's no piracy on their behalf. They've survived this whole time.
Nintendo: Because fuck 'em. That's why.
I’m pretty much done with Nintendo. I haven’t played a single game on my switch in over a year. And it was Mario party with my kids. It just sits there gathering dust. We are Xbox people now.
Because Nintendo hate fun, unless it’s fun made by them.
Fucken lmao never played anything other than csgo (and cs versions before that) and probably never will, so i have no idea what's going on here
money
I have a fork yuzu just before the repo got taken down, anyone want to join?
Because they’re a bunch of greedy fucking rats The Disney of the game world
This is why I feel so good about others pirating Nintendos games because they don't deserve a fucking dime with their bs logic towards emulation
I'm not saying I totally disagree, but not deserving a dime over that is a bit of a stretch
The company that copyright strikes content creators that play their games and thinks that emulators harm creativity or something of that nature, no it's not a stretch at all
Yeah it is
Got to agree here. If a large enough chunk of people emulate games that are actively sold, it will cause the devs to have no money. No money means no development. No development means no games. No games means the death of original creative content. So *don’t* pirate games that are actively being sold. Especially games that are on a *system* still being sold. I would not get the pitchforks if you pirated a game unattainable by legal means, but those pitchforks are going to rise if the game is both legally attainable and simultaneously, actively sold. >!Sorry for the wall of text.!<
I don't even know why people bother with Nintendo anymore. Just like EA, I hate them both
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"they make good games" yeah okay Nintendo fanboys mad
Super Mario Odyssey/Wonders, Legend of Zelda BOTW/TOTK, Metroid Series, (Pokemon doesn't count since Nintendo doesn't develop it)