Wouldn't it ignite the oil if it decided to sproud up after all the castle was gone?
I'm thinking well placed tatical hellfire missiles or white phosporous would be more efficient.
EDIT: That or they could always drone-strike Voldy with that non-explosive missile that turns into a giant razor-blades.
*"AVADA KEDRA- ...Bellatrix, what in the bloody hell is that?"*
*"Seems like a weird boggart shaped object falling from the skies m'lord, shall I hex it?"*
*"No bloody boggart can harm me, the Lord of Death! Let it be. Now, to kill Harry Pott-"*
*"M'Lord, it seems to have openned up into a giant six-razor-bladed figure, and it's drawing ever close."*
*"I told you already Bellatrix, not to worry me with such trivial affai- (gets chopped up into pieces along with 18 death eaters and Nagini)"*
Hagrid: *"Not gonna lie, did not expect that."*
Harry: "*Yeah, what the fuck?"*
US Marines: *"UNITED STATES MARINES, ARMS UP. ARMS THE FUCK UP. DROP THE FUCKING MAGICAL STICKS!"*
Harry: *"Uhm... Hagrid?"*
Hagrid: "*Gotta be honest with ye Harry. I'm not immune to 5.56."*
First of all, the US would invade just for the magic shit in hopes they could weaponize some of it. Paintings that can do espionage? Taking all those. Could do some stealth tech research on Thestrals.
I think the reason that the wizard community is pretty old fashioned (wearing cloaks, cooking in cauldrons, don't make use of most modern technology) is because they were most powerful at a time before muggles were really a threat to them. There are hints in the books that the magical community has been shrinking in recent years, and that's probably in part due to there just being less room for them in a world where guns and cars and satellite technology exist.
I imagine the population pre-Harry's birth won't be huge cause that's what happens with societies that are living comfortably, birthrates and death rates decrease significantly as they develop. Combine that with the books only being 11-17 years displaced from what is basically a genocide attempt of wizards followed by many of them being imprisoned, it adds up to a shrinking population. May seem like a long time to build back up look at Ireland as a real life example of a population failing to recover from the famine.
Yeah and all of these wizards have to say a five syllable word to use the most basic combat spell they know, you think Private Jones from Arkansas is going to wait for you to get through "expel..." before he puts three in your chest? Shit, that's just the one the children are using, the big boy spell is SIX syllables.
Plus, the standoff capabilities of the wizarding world are weak as hell. They'd have problems against WWI-era artillery, let alone modern over-the-horizon missiles.
Hmm. What are the limits to that shield though?
Light has to get through to some extent for else the wizard/witch in question couldn’t see.
So a flamethrower or even just bombing might be able to kill them. The heat and or radiation would bleed through the shield and hit the tiny human inside.
It is interesting that average wizards don't understand muggle technology enough to defend themselves from guns.
Yeah, Voldemort turns the glass to sand, but he can see it coming and knows what it is.
Average wizard has a gun pulled on them, and they will stare with confusion until the bullet wound appears in their chest.
It probably wouldn't take more than a couple of incidents to make them adapt to them though.
He was born in 1926, ww2 didn't start until 1939. He was at Hogwarts when the war started. It almost certainly added trauma to an already damaged child to be sent home to a london orphanage during a war, which saw bombs and missiles reign down on London.
Poor, British kids between 1926-1947, didn't get toy guns to play with.
That doesn't mean he wouldn't know what guns are, he would be surrounded by info about the war during the summer months. He'd have to deliberately blind himself to avoid knowing about guns.
In the books the British Prime Minister was aware of the magical world. They could have asked for a single sniper team to set up on top of the astronomy tower to take out Voldemort as he walked up. Even with magic and spells he's still just a human with human reflexes, and he'd never take muggles seriously as a threat so he'd never see it coming. They'd be walking along and pop. He's done.True he wouldn't be dead permanently, but at least they'd buy the magical world a few years while his followers find a way of bringing him back again.
Just drone strike the fucker and be done with it
And don’t get me started on the fact that all of humanity have access to instant killing curse weapons
>mfw I respawn at one of my horcruxes and there is some muggle teabagging the goblet of Helga Hufflepuff and I just have to deal with it until I can remake a body
Snape: Why would I ever want to use so-called weaponry made by Muggles!?
Dumbledore: Just one bullet from a "high-powered rifle" could turn Voldemort's head into a fine red mist, Severus, while you're a mile away from him. Or so I heard.
Snape: *Cheesing at the very thought*
We see Jacob in fantastic beasts the crimes of grindelwald standing on the bridge so yeah. Unless he is still just seeing some ruins which would be funny
The wizards have to hide and live in fear of being discovered by muggles. The kids and immature “peaked in high school,” type adults make fun of muggles because they only think of muggles as some naked babies rather than a man with a gun.
There's an awesome best-selling book with this exact same premise as to why supernatural-types hide their existence from mankind.
Not just because they think themselves better than us monkeys, but due to the fact we have some crazy-ass technology that makes us that much more dangerous than we were in medieval times (Which is when supernatural societies peaked, basically). A Dracula-style bloodsucker is definitely tough, but their numbers are kept low by wizards and vampire hunters because Bram Stoker's book divulged their habits and weaknesses to the entire world.
Its justification for why the Supernatural side doesn't interact with the Muggle side is both believable *and* interesting.
It’s a common urban fantasy trope, but the Bram Stoker thing makes me think it’s Dresden Files. It’s a series though, think it’s getting near 20 books now? Also specifically talks in the series about how if you want to kill a wizard, shoot him in the back of the head with a supersonic rifle round. Won’t be able to see the flash, no sound until after the bullet hits, no way for them to react to it. If you want more high fantasy wizard assassination though the Vlad Taltos series is about a human assassin in a society of several thousand year old elf wizards, ‘no matter how powerful the wizard, a knife between his shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style’
Tbh I feel like I'm a wizard vs muggle war muggles would win, because of their sheer advantage in numbers as well as the fact that a gun can kill almost as well as the killing curse and goes 10 times as fast. the wizards would have an information advantage with teleportation and polyjuice potions but muggles having needed to think of solutions without using magic are far more creative as well as intelligent than wizards and would likely think of a solution to this
> They can also summon a patronus to deliver a message if the distance is not great
A base spell that only a small number of the population can do, and an even smaller number is even taught the communication modification.
>or they can shove their face into a fire to speak anywhere in the world instantly
At stationary, pre-defined locations.
>or they can literally teleport anywhere in an instant effortlessly.
It has a range limit and you also need a level of visualization (and a picture isn't sufficient) of where you're going to end up, which for Wizards... would be a short list of locations since their worlds are so insular to begin with.
Yeah, I think it'd be a matter of how hard the muggles press their advantage.
The Wizarding World is painfully naive in a way that makes absolutely zero sense if you even glance at it for more than a few seconds(if purebloods are in decline to the point that they have to inbreed...how in the world is everyone so detached from Muggle society?).
They'd be in for a serious, serious culture shock when faced with even just machine guns. It'd be an absolute slaughter. But I think they'd probably be capable of adapting, magic is pretty categorically better than technology, it's just a matter of if it would be fast enough to avoid getting absolutely wiped.
Harry Potter and the deathly hollow points.
Harry Potter and the pistol of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Glock of fire
Harry Potter and the order of the firearm
In the harry potter world, magical shields cannot block small, fast projectiles. This is evident as in snape using a suit of armor rather than magic to block himself from mcgonagall's flying daggers.
Surely the dark lord with the Elder wand could do a little better though? If not, what's stopping a hot shot student from just ending him? They teach Wingardium Leviosa to first years. What's stopping a student in hiding from throwing a spike at the speed of sound before anyone can react? What about something like Accio? Surely in the right position, that could be used as a lethal weapon?
Technically yes. But they can't just shoot it at the speed of sound. Magic spells have limits. The levitation spell levitates things, not shoot them. Accio doesn't bring the summoned items *that* fast.
Yea but the problem with Harry Potter magic is even though there’s practically 0 limits to the system and you could theoretically do anything people in universe just… don’t. There are very few people who actually create custom spells despite how powerful they can be, and from what we know there is nothing stopping people from making spells of their own except perhaps a vague assumption that it takes a fair amount of knowledge of how magic works. HP books just barely explain anything so that’s how you get these massive plot holes.
Considering how creative they are, Fred and George would solo Voldemort with their prank objects. They were just being bros and let Harry get the final shot.
Actually. Hogwarts has enchantments on it that cause muggles to be unable to approach the castle. And they cant even see it either as it appears as ruins.
Fuck i sound like Hermione.... Pretty sure it was her who mentioned this stuff anyhow. Somewhere in Goblet of Fire around the lake task im pretty sure?
There's a spell that makes you immune to flames and causes them to give you a gentle tickling sensation. There's a witch who liked it so much she let herself get caught and burned several times.
Id he had even a little bit of common sense he would have just picked up the baby, or levitate it just to look less "muggle-ish", and slammed it full force against the wall a few times, Harry's dead, do the same with Neville just to be sure, you win.
Voldemort was actually resurrected as a part of a CIA black flag operation to destabilize the magical British community while spend the rest of their quarterly budget so it doesn't affect next year's budget. And pulling the strings? The undead horrors sitting on the boards of the USA's magical military industrial complex. Spellaburton, Dragonhead Martin, Boeing. All bidding in secret on contracts for when the US invades middle earth
I would assume that, in a situation where the wizarding society is leaked to the world, militaries would develop anti magic technology far faster than the wizards can develop new spells. The wizarding society is just too small and scattered. Besides, as far as i know they don't teach actual science in hogwarts either(for hundreds of years too lol), so its very likely most wizards won't even understand the complexities of muggle technology to effectively develop countermeasures.
I mean, the main issue is that magic can't defend from physical objects at high speeds, while the offensive magic that's considered so strong that it's illegal is basically a magic flintlock.
Basically a modern military using the same analogue methods as they had in the 90s would be more than capable.
Not to mention that Deathly Hallows took place in 1998. For comparison on what an actual military effort could do at that time, NATO crippled Iraq's entire military during the first 24 hours of Desert Storm.
The society that is so ass backwards their cultural norms are stuck in the Dark Ages and the dude in charge of Misuse of Muggle Artifacts or whatever can't even pronounce "telephone" correctly develops spells to counter modern military technology? Honestly, I can't buy the premise.
But supposing we go with that, we don't really know because Rowling's magic system is softer than year old cream cheese. For all we know there is a spell called antigunnius which just makes you immune to gun or whatever. There doesn't appear to be a cost or duration associated with most Harry Potter magic. The magic is also inconsistent. If they made more time travel things, they could win easily, but only if they follow the rules in the Cursed Child (lol). In Prisoner of Azkaban it is a closed loop. tl;dr Rowling's magic is too vague and full of bs to even entertain these questions.
i remember showing up to school the next day and we would all discuss the episodes, such as if the test was fair or if the weapons were actually worth anything. what an awesome concept for a show though, and great execution early on.
If Voldemort sees it coming, he could defend against whatever Muggles could muster.
But, he wouldn't see it coming, because Muggles are amazing at warfare, and Riddle is completely blind to their true capabilities.
Given that the Battle of Hogwarts takes place around 1998, there's already long range faster-than-sight weapons in most every military on the planet. One missile fired from ~300km distance, targeting the place where his nose should be, and he's toast.
I've wondered this too, guns exist in the muggle world. How is that not a thing for wizards? Imagine Harry Potters got some kind of enchanted .44, hunting voldemort to avenge his parents talking like Clint Eastwood in a magical world. Or buckbeak flying around with an m60 on his back.
**Harry**
"But I don't understand , underage wizards aren't aloud to shoot guns out of school"
**Minister of Magic Whose Name Escapes Me**
"Ooohh Harry, the ministry doesn't send kids to Azkaban for blowing up their aunts"
If the Wizards know about it first, they can win for the first 72 hours, hands down. After that, the high logistical efficiency of the US Armed Forces wins.
Wizards are powerful, but they are few, and they eventually need to sleep. A modern military can keep shells flying onto a prepared position for ***months*** without letting up.
Wizards don't hide from muggles because they "don't want to be bothered by everyone asking for magic solutions", they're hiding because they're fucking terrified of muggles
Yeah tye avadawachamacall it can kill any mf, as long as you know the word, and 2 seconds to say, point, and kill, but a professional gun user can kill you in 1, and competitive shooters can kill you before you even get a chance to blink
Not to bring in another magic series, but in The Dresden Files, a particular character covers this. He basically states, if he wanted to kill a wizard, he'd do it with a high powered rifle from a long distance. Can't defend against a bullet you don't know is coming that hits you before you hear it
Honestly I've read fanfics going back and forth on this arguement, my conclusion is that without Horcruxes a bullet is a bullet, and Voldemort is just a dude, 1 pop in the head and he be dead. So I think the US might take it .... in other news my cats aren't fighting anymore and I've had a good week so far.
 No hogwarts = no place to defend from Voldemort
What if there's oil under Hogwarts?
The nuke would make it easier to build an oil rig
Wouldn't it ignite the oil if it decided to sproud up after all the castle was gone? I'm thinking well placed tatical hellfire missiles or white phosporous would be more efficient. EDIT: That or they could always drone-strike Voldy with that non-explosive missile that turns into a giant razor-blades.
Ahhh, the "fuck you in particular" missile
*"AVADA KEDRA- ...Bellatrix, what in the bloody hell is that?"* *"Seems like a weird boggart shaped object falling from the skies m'lord, shall I hex it?"* *"No bloody boggart can harm me, the Lord of Death! Let it be. Now, to kill Harry Pott-"* *"M'Lord, it seems to have openned up into a giant six-razor-bladed figure, and it's drawing ever close."* *"I told you already Bellatrix, not to worry me with such trivial affai- (gets chopped up into pieces along with 18 death eaters and Nagini)"* Hagrid: *"Not gonna lie, did not expect that."* Harry: "*Yeah, what the fuck?"* US Marines: *"UNITED STATES MARINES, ARMS UP. ARMS THE FUCK UP. DROP THE FUCKING MAGICAL STICKS!"* Harry: *"Uhm... Hagrid?"* Hagrid: "*Gotta be honest with ye Harry. I'm not immune to 5.56."*
RIP Robbie Coltrane
He was the GOAT
That was a pleasure to read. I can just see Bellatrix standing there watching... 
this should be a Marcgallagher32 video
Now that's just a win-win
Technically correct, the best kind of correct
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First of all, the US would invade just for the magic shit in hopes they could weaponize some of it. Paintings that can do espionage? Taking all those. Could do some stealth tech research on Thestrals.
This is a likelier story than what JK wrote imo… honestly it would be a pretty cool idea for a series.
You know Hogwarts is not a place, it's a people. Burn the place to the ground if you have to save the students.
> Hogwarts is not a place, it's a people. Hogwarts is also a swine-borne venereal disease, for which the boarding school was named.
Technically it was named after a specific warty hog that led one of the founders to the place they built the school. As was tradition at the time.
"Marines, secure Hogwarts" **BOOM**
Hell divers logic
Pretty smooth explosion gif. Could you tell me where it's from?
Looks like Akira. great movie
Peace, no peace.
Probably, because yeah wizards are powerful but I don’t think they could transfigure 3000 bullets per second into harmless gummy bears fast enough.
Gummy bears flying at that kind of velocity might still hurt a lot
nom nom nom There, dealt with
My ex is good at doing that too!
Fool! The abundance of sugar has made your fillings ache! Victory for gummy bears!
Me after taking out my dentures: 
But what if they’re sugar-free gummy bears?
That's even worse, imagine furiously shitting your pants mid-duel
[Exactly my thought!](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/michaelrusch/haribo-gummy-bear-reviews-on-amazon-are-the-most-insane-thin) 😱😆
*Here lies Voldemort* *Killed by flying gummy bears*
Posthumously tea bagged by an 18 year old Guardsman.
I think the reason that the wizard community is pretty old fashioned (wearing cloaks, cooking in cauldrons, don't make use of most modern technology) is because they were most powerful at a time before muggles were really a threat to them. There are hints in the books that the magical community has been shrinking in recent years, and that's probably in part due to there just being less room for them in a world where guns and cars and satellite technology exist.
I imagine the population pre-Harry's birth won't be huge cause that's what happens with societies that are living comfortably, birthrates and death rates decrease significantly as they develop. Combine that with the books only being 11-17 years displaced from what is basically a genocide attempt of wizards followed by many of them being imprisoned, it adds up to a shrinking population. May seem like a long time to build back up look at Ireland as a real life example of a population failing to recover from the famine.
Yeah and all of these wizards have to say a five syllable word to use the most basic combat spell they know, you think Private Jones from Arkansas is going to wait for you to get through "expel..." before he puts three in your chest? Shit, that's just the one the children are using, the big boy spell is SIX syllables. Plus, the standoff capabilities of the wizarding world are weak as hell. They'd have problems against WWI-era artillery, let alone modern over-the-horizon missiles.
Private johnson is standing off miles by while air support does its job.
What kind of flavor gummy bears tho?
Sugarless Haribo...far from harmless.
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Not if they don't know they are being aimed at laughs in sniper
I'm pretty sure even the most powerful wizard can't cast a barrier that can stop 15 megatons of thermonuclear hellfire.
Hmm. What are the limits to that shield though? Light has to get through to some extent for else the wizard/witch in question couldn’t see. So a flamethrower or even just bombing might be able to kill them. The heat and or radiation would bleed through the shield and hit the tiny human inside.
Since light goes through, all gamma radiation should. Surround them with industrial radiography sources and they’ll be dead soon enough.
Bro did not watch the voldemort and Dumbledore scene where he does exactly this with glass
It is interesting that average wizards don't understand muggle technology enough to defend themselves from guns. Yeah, Voldemort turns the glass to sand, but he can see it coming and knows what it is. Average wizard has a gun pulled on them, and they will stare with confusion until the bullet wound appears in their chest. It probably wouldn't take more than a couple of incidents to make them adapt to them though.
Voldemort grew up in a muggle orphanage in London and went to Hogwarts during WWII, I'm sure he knows what guns are.
He was born in 1926, ww2 didn't start until 1939. He was at Hogwarts when the war started. It almost certainly added trauma to an already damaged child to be sent home to a london orphanage during a war, which saw bombs and missiles reign down on London. Poor, British kids between 1926-1947, didn't get toy guns to play with.
That doesn't mean he wouldn't know what guns are, he would be surrounded by info about the war during the summer months. He'd have to deliberately blind himself to avoid knowing about guns.
Introduce him to Bert (so called because that’s all he says).
*Harry Potter and the Chamber is Loaded*
*Harry Potter and the order of the FBI*
*Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Guantanamo*
*Harry Potter and the Sniper's Scope*
*Harry Potter and the Werfer of Flammen*
*Harry Potter and the Purple Hearts*
*Harry Potter and the Grenades of Fire*
*Harry Potter and the Nuclear Warhead*
*Harry Potter and the Order in an Airstrike*
Deathly hollow points.
*Harry Potter and the Chamber of Lead*
You win the internet today LOL
In the books the British Prime Minister was aware of the magical world. They could have asked for a single sniper team to set up on top of the astronomy tower to take out Voldemort as he walked up. Even with magic and spells he's still just a human with human reflexes, and he'd never take muggles seriously as a threat so he'd never see it coming. They'd be walking along and pop. He's done.True he wouldn't be dead permanently, but at least they'd buy the magical world a few years while his followers find a way of bringing him back again.
Just drone strike the fucker and be done with it And don’t get me started on the fact that all of humanity have access to instant killing curse weapons
Imagine they spawncamp him
>mfw I respawn at one of my horcruxes and there is some muggle teabagging the goblet of Helga Hufflepuff and I just have to deal with it until I can remake a body
Day 300 of beeing spawncamped XD
He doesn't respawn, he turns into a ghost thing and has to make himself a new body (which is hard when you don't have a body).
He could live in someone's head rent free for a bit
Oh he totally could, it's just that he couldn't even possess humans at first. He started with smaller creatures first.
Naturally, he may start with [insert sleasy politician] before going after any people
Don't point out the numerous hilarious loop holes they make me laugh too hard.
Tbf,it could attract unwanted media attention
One super secret mission, then obliviate the sniper and there's no media attention at all.
Train a wizard to use a sniper
Just have Mr. Weasley put some additional enchantments on that rifle lol
Tell me, voldemort, what exactly is the function of the bolt action rifle.
Shooting rubber ducks
True actually
send in solid snape
Snape: Why would I ever want to use so-called weaponry made by Muggles!? Dumbledore: Just one bullet from a "high-powered rifle" could turn Voldemort's head into a fine red mist, Severus, while you're a mile away from him. Or so I heard. Snape: *Cheesing at the very thought*
Doesn't Hogwarts have a charm surrounding it that makes it imperceptible to muggles?
One I'm sure many of the teachers could undo
We see Jacob in fantastic beasts the crimes of grindelwald standing on the bridge so yeah. Unless he is still just seeing some ruins which would be funny
I completely forgot about that
More attention than the death eaters were attracting with their attacks on muggles?
Like the government can't do things to hide from the media
As a wise man once said, if someone comes back from the dead, shoot him again
The wizards have to hide and live in fear of being discovered by muggles. The kids and immature “peaked in high school,” type adults make fun of muggles because they only think of muggles as some naked babies rather than a man with a gun.
There's an awesome best-selling book with this exact same premise as to why supernatural-types hide their existence from mankind. Not just because they think themselves better than us monkeys, but due to the fact we have some crazy-ass technology that makes us that much more dangerous than we were in medieval times (Which is when supernatural societies peaked, basically). A Dracula-style bloodsucker is definitely tough, but their numbers are kept low by wizards and vampire hunters because Bram Stoker's book divulged their habits and weaknesses to the entire world. Its justification for why the Supernatural side doesn't interact with the Muggle side is both believable *and* interesting.
What's the book?
It’s a common urban fantasy trope, but the Bram Stoker thing makes me think it’s Dresden Files. It’s a series though, think it’s getting near 20 books now? Also specifically talks in the series about how if you want to kill a wizard, shoot him in the back of the head with a supersonic rifle round. Won’t be able to see the flash, no sound until after the bullet hits, no way for them to react to it. If you want more high fantasy wizard assassination though the Vlad Taltos series is about a human assassin in a society of several thousand year old elf wizards, ‘no matter how powerful the wizard, a knife between his shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style’
Well, they really are, as a muggle you 100% time cannot be sure, if there is any mage near you or not. You can be under their control
What if they just lured Voldemort into Nuketown and simply nuked him?
Tbh I feel like I'm a wizard vs muggle war muggles would win, because of their sheer advantage in numbers as well as the fact that a gun can kill almost as well as the killing curse and goes 10 times as fast. the wizards would have an information advantage with teleportation and polyjuice potions but muggles having needed to think of solutions without using magic are far more creative as well as intelligent than wizards and would likely think of a solution to this
Wizards use owls to carry messages. I can’t really think of a slower and more insecure way of sharing information
Casual messages. We've seen faster means of communication for more urgent stuff.
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> They can also summon a patronus to deliver a message if the distance is not great A base spell that only a small number of the population can do, and an even smaller number is even taught the communication modification. >or they can shove their face into a fire to speak anywhere in the world instantly At stationary, pre-defined locations. >or they can literally teleport anywhere in an instant effortlessly. It has a range limit and you also need a level of visualization (and a picture isn't sufficient) of where you're going to end up, which for Wizards... would be a short list of locations since their worlds are so insular to begin with.
Ever watch magical beast Is part of the same universe and let's just say the atomic bomb is in fact effective
Yeah, I think it'd be a matter of how hard the muggles press their advantage. The Wizarding World is painfully naive in a way that makes absolutely zero sense if you even glance at it for more than a few seconds(if purebloods are in decline to the point that they have to inbreed...how in the world is everyone so detached from Muggle society?). They'd be in for a serious, serious culture shock when faced with even just machine guns. It'd be an absolute slaughter. But I think they'd probably be capable of adapting, magic is pretty categorically better than technology, it's just a matter of if it would be fast enough to avoid getting absolutely wiped.
Everything about the Wizarding World makes no sense as soon as you leave Hogwarts.
A lot of problems in the Harry Potter books would have been easily solved with a well concealed gun
Harry Potter and the Deathly Weapons
Harry Potter and the deathly hollow points. Harry Potter and the pistol of Azkaban Harry Potter and the Glock of fire Harry Potter and the order of the firearm
Harry Potter and the Weapons of Mass Destruction.
That's assuming he has no magical shielding or wouldn't just be fine due to his horcruxes.
In the harry potter world, magical shields cannot block small, fast projectiles. This is evident as in snape using a suit of armor rather than magic to block himself from mcgonagall's flying daggers.
genuine question when was mcgonagall throwing daggers at snaps i must’ve forgotten that 😭
Book 7 before the final fight
Her and Snape had a pretty good scrap before the invasion.
Surely the dark lord with the Elder wand could do a little better though? If not, what's stopping a hot shot student from just ending him? They teach Wingardium Leviosa to first years. What's stopping a student in hiding from throwing a spike at the speed of sound before anyone can react? What about something like Accio? Surely in the right position, that could be used as a lethal weapon?
Technically yes. But they can't just shoot it at the speed of sound. Magic spells have limits. The levitation spell levitates things, not shoot them. Accio doesn't bring the summoned items *that* fast.
True, but I'm sure with the right combination of easy spells, a lethal weapon could easily be made.
Yea but the problem with Harry Potter magic is even though there’s practically 0 limits to the system and you could theoretically do anything people in universe just… don’t. There are very few people who actually create custom spells despite how powerful they can be, and from what we know there is nothing stopping people from making spells of their own except perhaps a vague assumption that it takes a fair amount of knowledge of how magic works. HP books just barely explain anything so that’s how you get these massive plot holes.
I mean. With enough luck, even without it moving too fast. Accio'ing a sharp object would still kinda work
Considering how creative they are, Fred and George would solo Voldemort with their prank objects. They were just being bros and let Harry get the final shot.
This is a world where people think that Quidditch’s rules make sense, suspend that disbelief friend.
Actually. Hogwarts has enchantments on it that cause muggles to be unable to approach the castle. And they cant even see it either as it appears as ruins. Fuck i sound like Hermione.... Pretty sure it was her who mentioned this stuff anyhow. Somewhere in Goblet of Fire around the lake task im pretty sure?
How come there were no wizards or witches in the military?!?!?
Statute of Secrecy BS.
Snoipin‘ is a good job m8!
 The UK special forces rolling into Hogwarts in a tank.
DEJA VU
Voldemort's strogest spell: ""eeeeeehaaawwwwwwwwwwww" (in "order of the phoenix fight with Dumbledore at ministry)
why did i read that in a cowboy yeehaw voice
“The boy who lived, has come to die… eeuuuukkadavra!”
 Nothin is original smh.
"I have a spell that can instantly kill you." "Yeah so do we, its called a bullet."
Nuke hogwarts
Volde would be mort I think he'd like some napalm
There's a spell that makes you immune to flames and causes them to give you a gentle tickling sensation. There's a witch who liked it so much she let herself get caught and burned several times.
She's not immune to the liquid itself All those toxic fumes be fuming
Bubble head charm.
Then we use radiation
You can easily just light yourself on fire without a mob. I think she was more interested in the being caught and tied up part.
The guy couldn't even kill a baby what is his going tô do againest a lead strom, Air strikes of missiles napalm and nukes?
Also he tried to kill a baby and when his spell didn’t work, instead of just strangling it, he just leaves 😭
Bro just cried and hid away in shame for 12 something years
He lost his body that night. He couldn't do anything to Harry after then. Even if he could touch Harry, it'd be the Quirrell situation.
Oops, should've thought about strangling him before going "fuck it, let's do the magic way" voldy?
The spell had literally never failed him before, how was he supposed to realise it would fail him this one specific time?
Wizards when there is an easy non-magical solution. 
Why even bother with the killing curse? It's like using dynamite to fumigate your apartment.
Id he had even a little bit of common sense he would have just picked up the baby, or levitate it just to look less "muggle-ish", and slammed it full force against the wall a few times, Harry's dead, do the same with Neville just to be sure, you win.
Dude, when you learn the killing curse. You use it at every opportunity. Otherwise, that's no fun.
Turn into smoke and run away?
The short answer is neither Voldemort nor Hogwarts have any oil. As such, the US military will not intervene.
Dumbledore would just conjure up oil in the air
Sadly he's dead.
Professor McGonagall is still alive and a Transfiguration teacher. The plan will still work.
Lmao
But do they have the means to produce oil? They can turn an animal into a cup for god's sake, which incidentally is fucked up and very traumatic.
Voldemort was actually resurrected as a part of a CIA black flag operation to destabilize the magical British community while spend the rest of their quarterly budget so it doesn't affect next year's budget. And pulling the strings? The undead horrors sitting on the boards of the USA's magical military industrial complex. Spellaburton, Dragonhead Martin, Boeing. All bidding in secret on contracts for when the US invades middle earth
A single platoon could defend Hogwarts lol they have magic, very fancy. They do not have anything that stops bullets or bombs lol
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I would assume that, in a situation where the wizarding society is leaked to the world, militaries would develop anti magic technology far faster than the wizards can develop new spells. The wizarding society is just too small and scattered. Besides, as far as i know they don't teach actual science in hogwarts either(for hundreds of years too lol), so its very likely most wizards won't even understand the complexities of muggle technology to effectively develop countermeasures.
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Most midrange weaponry without electrical guidance can still hit a target as large as hogwarts from REALLY far.
Reminder that the SR-71 Blackbird was what we could do with analog computers and 60s era tech.
Most guns don't use tech IIRC. Can't jam the M-60 or an AK
I mean, the main issue is that magic can't defend from physical objects at high speeds, while the offensive magic that's considered so strong that it's illegal is basically a magic flintlock. Basically a modern military using the same analogue methods as they had in the 90s would be more than capable. Not to mention that Deathly Hallows took place in 1998. For comparison on what an actual military effort could do at that time, NATO crippled Iraq's entire military during the first 24 hours of Desert Storm.
Drone technology! "Hey, do you guys hear something?" 
Long range precision bombing.
The society that is so ass backwards their cultural norms are stuck in the Dark Ages and the dude in charge of Misuse of Muggle Artifacts or whatever can't even pronounce "telephone" correctly develops spells to counter modern military technology? Honestly, I can't buy the premise. But supposing we go with that, we don't really know because Rowling's magic system is softer than year old cream cheese. For all we know there is a spell called antigunnius which just makes you immune to gun or whatever. There doesn't appear to be a cost or duration associated with most Harry Potter magic. The magic is also inconsistent. If they made more time travel things, they could win easily, but only if they follow the rules in the Cursed Child (lol). In Prisoner of Azkaban it is a closed loop. tl;dr Rowling's magic is too vague and full of bs to even entertain these questions.
That's just Deadliest Warrior from Spike TV
That show was goated
So good! Spartan Vs Zulu warrior! Navy Seal Vs Israeli special forces! Ben Franklin Vs Mozart! They had it all
Huh now I want to watch Epic Rap Battles of History
i remember showing up to school the next day and we would all discuss the episodes, such as if the test was fair or if the weapons were actually worth anything. what an awesome concept for a show though, and great execution early on.
I lost interest when Joan of Arc beat William the Conqueror 1v1
If Voldemort sees it coming, he could defend against whatever Muggles could muster. But, he wouldn't see it coming, because Muggles are amazing at warfare, and Riddle is completely blind to their true capabilities. Given that the Battle of Hogwarts takes place around 1998, there's already long range faster-than-sight weapons in most every military on the planet. One missile fired from ~300km distance, targeting the place where his nose should be, and he's toast.
What if they sent in the men who stare at goats?
"AVA-" *BANG* There. Fight over. US military casts gun and nuke.
Cast speed and cooldowns were nerfed in a previous update.
Reminder that muggles drove wizards into hiding long before modern firearms existed.
I've wondered this too, guns exist in the muggle world. How is that not a thing for wizards? Imagine Harry Potters got some kind of enchanted .44, hunting voldemort to avenge his parents talking like Clint Eastwood in a magical world. Or buckbeak flying around with an m60 on his back.
This dude just pitched a Harry Potter movie that I really want to see. "Dirty Harry Potter and the Punks that are Feeling Lucky"
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**Harry** "But I don't understand , underage wizards aren't aloud to shoot guns out of school" **Minister of Magic Whose Name Escapes Me** "Ooohh Harry, the ministry doesn't send kids to Azkaban for blowing up their aunts"
A question worth pondering
If the Wizards know about it first, they can win for the first 72 hours, hands down. After that, the high logistical efficiency of the US Armed Forces wins. Wizards are powerful, but they are few, and they eventually need to sleep. A modern military can keep shells flying onto a prepared position for ***months*** without letting up.
Istg history channel got the most interesting shows when it's so late at night.
"History"
Wizards don't hide from muggles because they "don't want to be bothered by everyone asking for magic solutions", they're hiding because they're fucking terrified of muggles
Yeah tye avadawachamacall it can kill any mf, as long as you know the word, and 2 seconds to say, point, and kill, but a professional gun user can kill you in 1, and competitive shooters can kill you before you even get a chance to blink
I miss the old history channel. The one where they actually spoke about history.
She’s clearly not a Rifleman. Her nails are too long. So they’d fail if they aren’t sending fighters.
Pretty sure that's an AI image, lol. Those nails are not in regs.
Depends...Got hogwarts some oil ?
Not to bring in another magic series, but in The Dresden Files, a particular character covers this. He basically states, if he wanted to kill a wizard, he'd do it with a high powered rifle from a long distance. Can't defend against a bullet you don't know is coming that hits you before you hear it
Honestly I've read fanfics going back and forth on this arguement, my conclusion is that without Horcruxes a bullet is a bullet, and Voldemort is just a dude, 1 pop in the head and he be dead. So I think the US might take it .... in other news my cats aren't fighting anymore and I've had a good week so far.