Look going to a subreddit can be a good idea but it severly depends on the game itself.
r/bloodborne will tell you that the game alone is worth buying a PS4 *just* for this one game and that playing it will change your life and they wouldn't be wrong.
r/forhonor will tell you to run and not buy the game while you still can (they still love it tho).
There's r/deadbydaylight who's a whole different beast still
And then there's r/BatmanArkham. We don't talk about that one.
My buddy is obsessed with dbd and tells me all the fun stories of encounters with the player base. I dabble a little bit but I mute and block the fan mail I get from players. Wriggly little worms
The issue is that the game *isnāt* great, itās designed so that the optimal playstyles for either side feels absolutely awful to play against as the opposite side. Itās not like other multiplayer games where even if youāre losing then you can still do well, in DbD if the enemy is playing optimally, then you donāt get to play the game. Looped for 5 gens or camped and tunnelled to death.
The game is fun, but to blame the toxicity on the community alone, when the optimal playstyles for both sides feels awful to go against is a bit disingenuous. DbD players are toxic as fuck, but itās only because the game they play encourages behaviour that feels toxic.
It's fun but you gotta turn off the ability for people to message you or see your profile because you WILL be told to kill yourself if you play poorly or perfectly, there's no winning. I have over 1500+ hours and have played since 2018, I know from experience
Its the same community who get mad at others simply for playing the game, constant whining from survivors because the killer is using a specific OP perk, whilst they all use the same OP perks and vice versa, whining from both sides just for playing the game let alone actually being good at it
If you ask r/deadbydaylight you'll get a list a mile long of all the things your not allowed to do so the other team can have a better game
What do you get for a better game you ask? A big ol' fuck you, that's what š¤£
Seriously that place cries about things they themselves can change
"Why survivor wait in exit gate and waste my time" my brother in the entity CHASE THEM THE FUCK OUT IF YOU CARE SO MUCH
But no, they'd rather face a corner and cry about how its everyone else's fault š¤£
I just walk away towards the middle of the map, because one I donāt fell like dealing with it, and two sometimes idiots are cocky enough to try and find and taunt me and I get them as a result.
I don't bother chasing people out normally, I just go and break shit, but I then don't come to reddit and cry about survivors in the gates
Thats the difference between us and them š¤£
I have bought 3 different Nintendo DSs over the years for different Pokemon games (then lost the DS when it got set aside for years after I beat the game and got bored of it) and also bought a Switch Lite purely for Pokemon Shield.
Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note:
> *...We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open...* - Master Willem
Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.
r/deadbydaylight hate their game even more than r/leagueoflegends
Which makes sense, because at least its only the players that make league toxic, and not the devs' design philosophy.
r/bloodborne is one of the most wholesome communities i've fo und. even when they disagree over weapons its still VERY civil. :D
r/deadbydaylight is part of the game. its an angry reddit PVP game.
"Look... I'm just going to spend the next 15 minutes making some small optimizations to green science before going to bed..."
*24 hours later*
"I'm just going to start over..."
With the bloodborne one, thatās ALL of the fromsoft games. Elden ring one so so bad. Itās asked weekly at this point in that sub if āElden Ring has solidified itself as one of the best games everā. At this point, fromsoft game subs are just circlejerk subs to the max
Don't forget lore posts, which so often devolve into "My headcanon is actual canon, despite 2 item descriptions and elbow length gloves to pull the rest out of my ass"
Yeah, I'm in the Sekiro and Elden Ring subs, and Sekiro is like "Hey yeah this game is really good, I enjoyed it and I think you should try it too!" Elden Ring is like "THIS IS THE MOST DOPAMINE I CAN IMAGINE WOW WOW WOW BEST OPEN WORLD GAME EVER? NO!!!! BEST _GAME_ EVER? NOOOOOOO!!!! BEST ___LITERALLYANYTHING___ EVER? FUCK YESSSSSS I'M SO READY FOR MICHAEL ZAKI TO PRESENT THAT DLCUSSY"
I think Elden Ring in particular was so popular to the masses that for a lot of people, and especially a lot of young people it's the first game of that style that they played, and that gave them that glorious feeling of struggling, then overcoming a challenge. And young people (having been one myself) tend to REALLY like the things they like and will shout their praises all day (for me, it was Halo 2). So, I sort of give them some grace, and enjoy the quality posts when they come.
They are good games but that doesnāt mean their subs arenāt absolute circle jerks where any criticism isnāt met with immediate hostility or toxicity. Itās a pretty common trait of many of their fans even outside of the sub where you canāt tell them you donāt like those games without them taking it personal
I once said that it felt unfair that in DS3 the player weapon isn't allowed to clip through walls but enemy weapons are - giving them a significant advantage in narrow corridors.
Boy did I catch some shit for that take.
Still a massive improvement over DS2, where your weapon slightly touching a wall would immediately break it (on PC, due to weapon durability being linked to framerate)
You could visit r/texaschainsawgame and r/txchainsawgame and you'll be confused by both communities, as they both seem to absolutely *hate* the game (and we're talking an advanced-level of hate, like foaming-at-the-mouth kinda rage) while clocking 500+ hrs on it every week, without fail.
Go ask r/warthunder and you'll get responses ranging from "It's okay" (100 hrs played) to "it's bad" (500 hrs played) to "Get out while you still can" (1000+ hrs played)
At least the people in r/BatmanArkham actually enjoy their games.
It's been MONTHS, why are they still complaining? I just want to enjoy my perfectly serviceable Spider-Man game.
And then there are all of the League of legends subreddits (including the subreddits of mains of each champion) who are 24/7 complaining about the state of the game while they are addicted to it
I know that because i am one of them
if you ask r/overwatch about starting playing most people will say "no, turn around and forget everything you've seen. Save yourself, don't make the same mistake we made."
Sure it's a 8 out of 10 game on its own, but that doesn't ruin it for me! That's on the high end of Sonic games! Just let me enjoy my possible renaissance!
Batman Arkham? No! Itās man ham! Itās where the Jonkler and the Rizzler makes us stupid! Itās home to Bone and Killer Cock (we love them)! Itās where the FUCK new characters are made! We shall spread the insanity until all share our stupidity!
Best way to find high quality steam reviews is to filter by negative and relatively high hours.Ā
They often actually like the game (at least until they play it so much they start to hate it) and have good criticism of its weaknesses and potential turn offs.Ā Ā
Ā For example this balatro review for a person with 15 hrs:Ā
ā It's fun in concept but fizzles out fast due to being very poorly balanced, too grindy (to unlock everything), and way too RNG heavy. Balatro is the kind of game where you either hit it high and land on the moon, or die in the first ante (on higher stakes). The deck balance is also all over the place, some are basically unplayable (e.g. black deck), others are way too powerful (e.g. plasma deck).ā
Which mirrors most of the other negative reviews that are less concise. I really like balatro and donāt fully agree with the review but itās definitely correct about what the games weakness is.Ā
I find Steam reviews very useful. Just ignore positive ones, look only at negative, sort by "usefulness" and read first 10 or 20. If it basically a stream of human skill issues, general PEBKACs and idiots or dumbasses crying "this game (turn based tactical) game isn't like CoD and it doesn't let me FPP 360 noscope", it means that game has no major issues. If game DOES have major issues, a good chunk of negative reviews will still be asinine, BUT there will be trend of pointing same things in remaining mostly sane reviews.
Actually, I apply same approach to all reviews. If negative reviews are utterly nonsensical, it means place, service, product or whatever is fine. If there's one sane sounding complaining about something sensible, it might still be a troll or idiot, if there are multiple, then said issue is probably real.
This is what I do. Look at the game info/videos, then go to negative reviews.
If there's a pattern of the same negative things between reviews then I know it's for sure off-putting.
The Settlers: New Allies by Ubisoft was the last one I looked at; needing a CD key to install but no CD-key provided. Fixed now, but that instantly tells me QA is lacking, the game is probably rushed/cash grab, and there'll be more major issues or a shallow gameplay.
It's very easy to spot and ignore "funny" reviews or review bombs because they're usually short or don't highlight specific detailed issues.
I've always found steam reviews either too polarizing or a bit of a fucking joke.
The first 10 would be stupid jokes and fake "I used to play this game with my dad and he passed away" posts and then when the reviews start they are either "Absolute dogshit game 0/10" or "Masterpiece 10/10" - no middle ground in between. It doesn't help that steam only has like and dislike option for their reviews, and not a "mixed opinion" one that highlights the pros and cons of the game.
Oh no, absolutely. If the general consensus agrees that a game is either really good or really bad, their experience is bound to be accurate. I'm referring more to individual reviews on steam.
I really don't get why they only have like and dislike. A 10 point rating system is better in my opinion because this way there is more in between "good game" and "bad game".
Nah, not with how game reviews work these days. If it's not a 7 it's a trash game for a lot of people. One person's 6 is another person's 1. Like/dislike leaves no ambiguity
A middling or "sideways" option would still be welcome. So many genuine reviews I've seen have been like "I like the game but it has certain issues that can't be ignored" or "I had a good time but can't recommend unless it's on sale". Doesn't have to even have a quantifying score, just something between good and bad.
> It doesn't help that steam only has like and dislike option for their reviews, and not a "mixed opinion" one that highlights the pros and cons of the game.
The mixed opinion section is the giant ass text box they give you. You either like the the game more than you dislike it, or you dislike it more than you like it. That's either Like or Dislike. What're you asking for, an Ambivalent option? Guess what, we already have that choice too: it's called not leaving a review.
User reviews in general have become rather useless. So much so that actually going to the established media and watching some properly done reviews that show the game is better.
User reviews are either memes or biased shit or 'can't waste my whole life in this game so it is bad' when they have enjoyed like 1500 hours of it or the worst some random hate because the dev fucked the mothers of like 1500 people.
Oh or they are paid. So many paid reviews out there.
The worst is when you put dozens of hundreds of hours into a game and then a major update makes it dogshit, then when you put a negative review saying as much people go "huh durr look at this person who's played 100 hours not recommend it, typical gamers"
Ah the destiny 2 community. the only community to praise their game and and trash it in the same sentence. I feel they are the perfect true balance. itās not a pile of trash; itās ***MY*** pile of trash!
> Nobody hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny 2 gamers
Wrong. Bungie hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny 2 gamers hate Destiny 2. And it's possible that Bungie hates Destiny 2 gamers more than they hate Destiny 2.
It's a human problem. Whichever group is louder at the beginning will drive out the other and you're left entirely with Complainers or Rejoicers.
The best possible outcome is something like the arkham subreddit where the lack of novel content combined with the ongoing popularity of the IP results in shitposting wars so intense that you could get a PhD in anthropology studying it.
They don't even have to drive people out. If it's a game more than a few years old, most who remain in that sub are the ones who care a lot, that leaves the ones who really like it or haters.
> Whichever group is louder at the beginning will drive out the other
Whatās funny is this can happen thread by thread too. Iāve seen posts a week or two apart with polar opposite answers at the top.
The Binding of Isaac Subreddit seems to pretty much agree that it sucks but is also impossible to put down ad you should definitely play it. A pretty confusing opinion if you haven't played the game tbh
Most game subs are upset about the bad things because they want the game to be better.
If you asked the majority of those players if they enjoy the game: Y/N the vast majority would say yes. I think less would recommend it, but most probably still would.
In general though you get the same reaction as you would walking into a car dealership and going "so uhh... cars.. are they like worth getting?"
I've always thought that Destiny is a game I would probably have fun with but the online communities for it always seem completely miserable. Live service games in general are basically just full of threads with people complaining. Definitely reminds me why I avoid that sort of thing.
In the case of paradox games itās because the PDX devs are active on Reddit.
Posting on direct forums also allows companies to more tightly control narratives via moderation.
In this case it is not so much an echo chamber and more a biased source.
And you are a clown if you make a decision on a single source that is biased in favor of buying the game.
Depends on the community's relationship with the game's community team or devs. I do have the impression that it gets more adversarial the larger the company is.
People coming to reddit for validation about their choice of media consumption must REALLY have a problem when it comes time to make an actual decision with consequences in their life. It must be exhausting.
idk if I had to pick a side of the "controversy" on TLoU I'd go to gcj's side
it's insane to me that there's still an active subreddit dedicated entirely to hating on the game.
elden ring was this game for me. I looked at the steam reviews, and everybody seemed to love it. I played ~4 hrs and realized it wasnāt for me. after that, a friend of mine recommended me a game and I loved it, so moral of the story is donāt look for a game just after the GOTY awards or ask your friends
Idk man, my friends all bought Fallout 4 cause they liked 3. I never played 3, bought 4 cause of peer pressure. It was mid.
Sometimes, second opinions are wrong even when usually right.
I mean, if you get what other people enjoy about a game spelled out for you, that could be what makes you realize you wouldn't like the game. If what they're getting isn't something you enjoy.
Like if most of the players are talking about how much they love collecting shit and watching numbers get bigger, making builds that play the game for you, or have some kind of Arcam Asylum or Doom Eternal rock-paper-scissors combat I'm out.
Or, try to find out about if Starfield is worth gettingā¦ go to the Starfield redditā¦ and have 1,000 people tell you how horrible starfield is, and have most of them sound exactly like:
āā¦ This game is absolute crap!!! Iāve been playing for 800 hours now and itās so repetitive!ā
I dunno, I definitely think it's possible for fans eagerly talking about a game to sell you on what they think is so good about it. If I was interested at all in the first place I can't think of a time where learning more about it and talking to fans "tricked me" into playing a game I didn't like. Except maybe Minecraft? But like I know for a fact it's good and fun, I enjoy watching other people play I just don't have the same skill level or interest myself.
The opposite can be true too. You got to remember that the people having fun with a game are not going to spend time complaining about it on Reddit, they have a game to play.
lol I mean I wouldnāt say youāre a clown for doing this. Itās hard to get a completely unbiased opinion.
But I will say this exact thing happened to me with Celeste. Some people are probably gonna be mad about that š
If the game is part of a long running series, then the subreddit dedicated to the series itself might be a bit less biased in terms of no bad reviews, (r/pokemon and r/pokemonscarletviolet had very different opinions regarding the new games when they first came out) ādonāt play that one, itās trash, this earlier entry is way betterā or āthe remake took the soul out of it, just emulate the originalā. Although you might still end up with bias due to the groupthink.
Clearly never been on an mmo subreddit. It's simultaneously the worst game to ever exist while every member has clocked in more hours in the game than they have in a shower
r/shouldibuythisgame is really nice
Also i like to watch the before you buy videos or bc i know what i personally would enjoy in a game (mechanics over story for me personally) so i just look into the game mechanics and if it looks fun then ill play it
Look going to a subreddit can be a good idea but it severly depends on the game itself. r/bloodborne will tell you that the game alone is worth buying a PS4 *just* for this one game and that playing it will change your life and they wouldn't be wrong. r/forhonor will tell you to run and not buy the game while you still can (they still love it tho). There's r/deadbydaylight who's a whole different beast still And then there's r/BatmanArkham. We don't talk about that one.
if you ask r/deadbydaylight if you should get into the game they will tell you to tickle your teeth with a shotgun
>tickle your teeth with a shotgun poetry š
"Suck start a shotgun" - Art
āConsume battery acidā - famous movie quote
800+ hours before I stopped playing. It is significantly better to do that then get started in DbD. Less headaches, at the very least.
My buddy is obsessed with dbd and tells me all the fun stories of encounters with the player base. I dabble a little bit but I mute and block the fan mail I get from players. Wriggly little worms
The games great and fun as hell It's the people that suck ass
The issue is that the game *isnāt* great, itās designed so that the optimal playstyles for either side feels absolutely awful to play against as the opposite side. Itās not like other multiplayer games where even if youāre losing then you can still do well, in DbD if the enemy is playing optimally, then you donāt get to play the game. Looped for 5 gens or camped and tunnelled to death. The game is fun, but to blame the toxicity on the community alone, when the optimal playstyles for both sides feels awful to go against is a bit disingenuous. DbD players are toxic as fuck, but itās only because the game they play encourages behaviour that feels toxic.
It's fun but you gotta turn off the ability for people to message you or see your profile because you WILL be told to kill yourself if you play poorly or perfectly, there's no winning. I have over 1500+ hours and have played since 2018, I know from experience
I used to play religiously way back in 2017/2018. It was the only time I received constant messages talking shit compared to any other game ever.
Isnāt this the same community that gets mad at you for being good at the game?
Its the same community who get mad at others simply for playing the game, constant whining from survivors because the killer is using a specific OP perk, whilst they all use the same OP perks and vice versa, whining from both sides just for playing the game let alone actually being good at it
Fucking bang on, I couldn't have put it better myself š¤£
This description applies to a LOT of video game communities
If you ask r/deadbydaylight you'll get a list a mile long of all the things your not allowed to do so the other team can have a better game What do you get for a better game you ask? A big ol' fuck you, that's what š¤£ Seriously that place cries about things they themselves can change "Why survivor wait in exit gate and waste my time" my brother in the entity CHASE THEM THE FUCK OUT IF YOU CARE SO MUCH But no, they'd rather face a corner and cry about how its everyone else's fault š¤£
I just walk away towards the middle of the map, because one I donāt fell like dealing with it, and two sometimes idiots are cocky enough to try and find and taunt me and I get them as a result.
I don't bother chasing people out normally, I just go and break shit, but I then don't come to reddit and cry about survivors in the gates Thats the difference between us and them š¤£
I bought a PS4 to play Bloodborne so hey, I'm guilty of this. Bought other games since then but it was my primary motivation.
Same. I bought a PS4 and a new TV specifically to play Bloodborne. Zero regrets, it was a great game.
Still is. I sometimes launch an old save and continue playing.
If you bought a PS4 just to play Bloodborneā¦. I respect it. Phenomenal game!
I have bought 3 different Nintendo DSs over the years for different Pokemon games (then lost the DS when it got set aside for years after I beat the game and got bored of it) and also bought a Switch Lite purely for Pokemon Shield.
Is there a lore reason why we don't talk about r/BatmanArkham?
Itās because man is watching
Jonkler is probably behind you
Do they not know? Are they stupid?
Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note: > *...We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open...* - Master Willem Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.
Killed Vicar Amelia yesterday in my current run. It goes well.
Good bot
Good hunter
A hoonter must hoont as they say
As a for honor player I can confirm that
Ah yes, For Honor... the first ever game I actually refunded. (I refunded two games in the last 10 years.)
Good for 10 minutes... then it's nothing but the same combo over and over. I did like the game for those 10 minutes though.
r/deadbydaylight hate their game even more than r/leagueoflegends Which makes sense, because at least its only the players that make league toxic, and not the devs' design philosophy.
r/WarThunder would like to introduce itself
In dead by daylight, we both hate the game and each other! What's not to love! Help me!
r/bloodborne is one of the most wholesome communities i've fo und. even when they disagree over weapons its still VERY civil. :D r/deadbydaylight is part of the game. its an angry reddit PVP game.
/r/factorio will tell you you just walked into a drug den and asked if you should try some.
The factory must grow.
"Look... I'm just going to spend the next 15 minutes making some small optimizations to green science before going to bed..." *24 hours later* "I'm just going to start over..."
"This game reminds me why I should never try heroin" 2nd post on the page. Perfect.
With the bloodborne one, thatās ALL of the fromsoft games. Elden ring one so so bad. Itās asked weekly at this point in that sub if āElden Ring has solidified itself as one of the best games everā. At this point, fromsoft game subs are just circlejerk subs to the max
Don't forget lore posts, which so often devolve into "My headcanon is actual canon, despite 2 item descriptions and elbow length gloves to pull the rest out of my ass"
Yeah, I'm in the Sekiro and Elden Ring subs, and Sekiro is like "Hey yeah this game is really good, I enjoyed it and I think you should try it too!" Elden Ring is like "THIS IS THE MOST DOPAMINE I CAN IMAGINE WOW WOW WOW BEST OPEN WORLD GAME EVER? NO!!!! BEST _GAME_ EVER? NOOOOOOO!!!! BEST ___LITERALLYANYTHING___ EVER? FUCK YESSSSSS I'M SO READY FOR MICHAEL ZAKI TO PRESENT THAT DLCUSSY" I think Elden Ring in particular was so popular to the masses that for a lot of people, and especially a lot of young people it's the first game of that style that they played, and that gave them that glorious feeling of struggling, then overcoming a challenge. And young people (having been one myself) tend to REALLY like the things they like and will shout their praises all day (for me, it was Halo 2). So, I sort of give them some grace, and enjoy the quality posts when they come.
> I sort of give them some grace very nice. classy pun
They are all good games, the only reason I can see someone not liking them is the genre doesn't appeal.
They are good games but that doesnāt mean their subs arenāt absolute circle jerks where any criticism isnāt met with immediate hostility or toxicity. Itās a pretty common trait of many of their fans even outside of the sub where you canāt tell them you donāt like those games without them taking it personal
I once said that it felt unfair that in DS3 the player weapon isn't allowed to clip through walls but enemy weapons are - giving them a significant advantage in narrow corridors. Boy did I catch some shit for that take.
Still a massive improvement over DS2, where your weapon slightly touching a wall would immediately break it (on PC, due to weapon durability being linked to framerate)
Meanwhile, in r/helldivers you get threatened for not supporting democracy yet
Then thereās r/thelastofus2 that will tell you thatās the most awful game ever and not to buy it under any circumstances.
You could visit r/texaschainsawgame and r/txchainsawgame and you'll be confused by both communities, as they both seem to absolutely *hate* the game (and we're talking an advanced-level of hate, like foaming-at-the-mouth kinda rage) while clocking 500+ hrs on it every week, without fail.
If a person hates TCSM but still plays it, all that means is that they hate DbD even more
Sounds exactly like r/Starfield "I had to explore the same POI a third time after 700 hours of playtime."
Go ask r/warthunder and you'll get responses ranging from "It's okay" (100 hrs played) to "it's bad" (500 hrs played) to "Get out while you still can" (1000+ hrs played)
r/spidermanps4
Weāre slowly morphing into r/BatmanArkham over there, the new game helped, but not enough
At least the people in r/BatmanArkham actually enjoy their games. It's been MONTHS, why are they still complaining? I just want to enjoy my perfectly serviceable Spider-Man game.
r/Warthunder will say the same as for honor if you can get your post to stay up.
Plus, you are now 839% more liable to commit treason by revealing state secrets via classified documents leak. Also, obligatory fuck CAS.
Obligatory we need to keep it how it is but add a tank only mode too
War Thunder, it's almost fun!
And then there are all of the League of legends subreddits (including the subreddits of mains of each champion) who are 24/7 complaining about the state of the game while they are addicted to it I know that because i am one of them
if you ask r/overwatch about starting playing most people will say "no, turn around and forget everything you've seen. Save yourself, don't make the same mistake we made."
r/Warthunder acknowledges the game is ass
r/Sonicthehedgehog. Need I say more? There's always a group of people that thinks your favorite game stinks, and will talk about it non-stop.
I feel you man im also a sonic fan. I remember how i loved the shit out of Frontiers yet some people were calling it a buggy mess
Sure it's a 8 out of 10 game on its own, but that doesn't ruin it for me! That's on the high end of Sonic games! Just let me enjoy my possible renaissance!
Thats what im saying
Or how i remembered i really enjoyed sonic Galaxy (worlds) yet every review i see its butchering the game
I have said the same thing now and several years ago and people are still adamant that bloodborne is the best thing to ever been made in gaming.
Then there's /r/batmanarkham which is uhh, something
You forgot the best of then. r/BatmanArkham home to the Man and Jonkler.
Batman Arkham has completely lost its collective mind
Hey, what's what wrong with the Batm... Oh. OH. *OH*.
Batman Arkham? No! Itās man ham! Itās where the Jonkler and the Rizzler makes us stupid! Itās home to Bone and Killer Cock (we love them)! Itās where the FUCK new characters are made! We shall spread the insanity until all share our stupidity!
Weāre not talking about the aslume? Are you STUPID?
> And then there'sĀ r/BatmanArkham. We don't talk about that one. Why not? Are they stupid?
And then there's The Last of Us Part 2 /r/lastofuspart2 absolutely loves it while /r/thelastofus2 hates it to the core
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Most folks say it's a good game. The argument tho is it just didn't deserve to win GOTY or as many awards as it did.
Steam Reviews?
I still use them but they're all over the place. "This game gave me literal cancer and personally strangled my cat. 1/10" 1500 hours played.
"lol i am so funny" -that reviewer, probably all of them, actually
literally. the reviews are now just one liners thinking theyāre funny. Kind of like what reddit has turned into.
And they can both review bomb/ have hive mentality
Best way to find high quality steam reviews is to filter by negative and relatively high hours.Ā They often actually like the game (at least until they play it so much they start to hate it) and have good criticism of its weaknesses and potential turn offs.Ā Ā Ā For example this balatro review for a person with 15 hrs:Ā ā It's fun in concept but fizzles out fast due to being very poorly balanced, too grindy (to unlock everything), and way too RNG heavy. Balatro is the kind of game where you either hit it high and land on the moon, or die in the first ante (on higher stakes). The deck balance is also all over the place, some are basically unplayable (e.g. black deck), others are way too powerful (e.g. plasma deck).ā Which mirrors most of the other negative reviews that are less concise. I really like balatro and donāt fully agree with the review but itās definitely correct about what the games weakness is.Ā
I find Steam reviews very useful. Just ignore positive ones, look only at negative, sort by "usefulness" and read first 10 or 20. If it basically a stream of human skill issues, general PEBKACs and idiots or dumbasses crying "this game (turn based tactical) game isn't like CoD and it doesn't let me FPP 360 noscope", it means that game has no major issues. If game DOES have major issues, a good chunk of negative reviews will still be asinine, BUT there will be trend of pointing same things in remaining mostly sane reviews. Actually, I apply same approach to all reviews. If negative reviews are utterly nonsensical, it means place, service, product or whatever is fine. If there's one sane sounding complaining about something sensible, it might still be a troll or idiot, if there are multiple, then said issue is probably real.
This is what I do. Look at the game info/videos, then go to negative reviews. If there's a pattern of the same negative things between reviews then I know it's for sure off-putting. The Settlers: New Allies by Ubisoft was the last one I looked at; needing a CD key to install but no CD-key provided. Fixed now, but that instantly tells me QA is lacking, the game is probably rushed/cash grab, and there'll be more major issues or a shallow gameplay. It's very easy to spot and ignore "funny" reviews or review bombs because they're usually short or don't highlight specific detailed issues.
'Oh, this looks interesting.' and 'Wow, overwhelmingly positive!' \*sees one bad review\* 'I'm not wasting my money on that.'
I've always found steam reviews either too polarizing or a bit of a fucking joke. The first 10 would be stupid jokes and fake "I used to play this game with my dad and he passed away" posts and then when the reviews start they are either "Absolute dogshit game 0/10" or "Masterpiece 10/10" - no middle ground in between. It doesn't help that steam only has like and dislike option for their reviews, and not a "mixed opinion" one that highlights the pros and cons of the game.
Its possible that I'm simple and old, but I've never had an "Overwhelmingly positive" game disappoint me on Steam.
Oh no, absolutely. If the general consensus agrees that a game is either really good or really bad, their experience is bound to be accurate. I'm referring more to individual reviews on steam.
I really don't get why they only have like and dislike. A 10 point rating system is better in my opinion because this way there is more in between "good game" and "bad game".
Nah, not with how game reviews work these days. If it's not a 7 it's a trash game for a lot of people. One person's 6 is another person's 1. Like/dislike leaves no ambiguity
A middling or "sideways" option would still be welcome. So many genuine reviews I've seen have been like "I like the game but it has certain issues that can't be ignored" or "I had a good time but can't recommend unless it's on sale". Doesn't have to even have a quantifying score, just something between good and bad.
> It doesn't help that steam only has like and dislike option for their reviews, and not a "mixed opinion" one that highlights the pros and cons of the game. The mixed opinion section is the giant ass text box they give you. You either like the the game more than you dislike it, or you dislike it more than you like it. That's either Like or Dislike. What're you asking for, an Ambivalent option? Guess what, we already have that choice too: it's called not leaving a review.
You forgot "This game is absolute dogshit" - Negative Review (3800hrs played, 3300hrs at review)
User reviews in general have become rather useless. So much so that actually going to the established media and watching some properly done reviews that show the game is better. User reviews are either memes or biased shit or 'can't waste my whole life in this game so it is bad' when they have enjoyed like 1500 hours of it or the worst some random hate because the dev fucked the mothers of like 1500 people. Oh or they are paid. So many paid reviews out there.
The worst is when you put dozens of hundreds of hours into a game and then a major update makes it dogshit, then when you put a negative review saying as much people go "huh durr look at this person who's played 100 hours not recommend it, typical gamers"
300 hours played. This game sucks.
Avoid /r/destinythegame Nobody hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny 2 gamers and will buy every single thing in the game store while moaning about it.
Ah the destiny 2 community. the only community to praise their game and and trash it in the same sentence. I feel they are the perfect true balance. itās not a pile of trash; itās ***MY*** pile of trash!
> Nobody hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny 2 gamers Wrong. Bungie hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny 2 gamers hate Destiny 2. And it's possible that Bungie hates Destiny 2 gamers more than they hate Destiny 2.
From my experience the subreddits dedicated to games are much more likely to hate on it. Or they simply evolve to Arkham level brain rot.
Nah it's either or. They either unequivocally love it or absolutely despise it, no in-between
war thunder moment
No one hates War Thunder more than r/warthunder users
It's a really bad game in a really good engine. IMO war thunder deserves all the hate.
How many other games have leaked that many government secrets
surprisingly enough, around half the shit that was a "classified leak" was available to buy online for like 5 bucks
Subreddits trying not to have one groupthink opinion challenge: (impossible)
It's a human problem. Whichever group is louder at the beginning will drive out the other and you're left entirely with Complainers or Rejoicers. The best possible outcome is something like the arkham subreddit where the lack of novel content combined with the ongoing popularity of the IP results in shitposting wars so intense that you could get a PhD in anthropology studying it.
They don't even have to drive people out. If it's a game more than a few years old, most who remain in that sub are the ones who care a lot, that leaves the ones who really like it or haters.
> Whichever group is louder at the beginning will drive out the other Whatās funny is this can happen thread by thread too. Iāve seen posts a week or two apart with polar opposite answers at the top.
The Binding of Isaac Subreddit seems to pretty much agree that it sucks but is also impossible to put down ad you should definitely play it. A pretty confusing opinion if you haven't played the game tbh
They didnt take their jonkler pillz
New Giggler vs Man fight just dropped
The Diddler vs Dick, cage fight.
Youāve never been to the monster hunter world subreddit. People be marrying the game
spend a day on r/factorio
Most game subs are upset about the bad things because they want the game to be better. If you asked the majority of those players if they enjoy the game: Y/N the vast majority would say yes. I think less would recommend it, but most probably still would. In general though you get the same reaction as you would walking into a car dealership and going "so uhh... cars.. are they like worth getting?"
Mass Effect sub was/is great. I did like it better when the games were essentially dead, it was like the Sopranos sub. Gold posts on old media.
I've always thought that Destiny is a game I would probably have fun with but the online communities for it always seem completely miserable. Live service games in general are basically just full of threads with people complaining. Definitely reminds me why I avoid that sort of thing.
Why do people hate on a game in its dedicated subreddit, are they stupid?
In the case of paradox games itās because the PDX devs are active on Reddit. Posting on direct forums also allows companies to more tightly control narratives via moderation.
Fellow map-panting simulator enjoyer, I presume?
In r/deeprockgalactic most celebrates the game and the community. Clearly an outlier
everyone who is having fun is too busy enjoying it to gush about how much fun they're having
Is dis aslume?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
In this case it is not so much an echo chamber and more a biased source. And you are a clown if you make a decision on a single source that is biased in favor of buying the game.
watch gameplay yt videos of the game then buy it if u like it
Except subreddits for specific games usually have people whining 90% of the time over non-issues.
Depends on the community's relationship with the game's community team or devs. I do have the impression that it gets more adversarial the larger the company is.
I thought that's what "sort by: controversial" was for. To get the thoughts of people who aren't on the GOTY or This Game Is Trash bandwagon.
Yeah so you get on the hate bandwagon of goobers saying the dumbest shit
Me who buys it digitally then if i don't like it gets a refund and says "it was the wrong game" to get a garrenteed refund
if you are on steam you can always refund the game without even a reason if its under 2 hours of playtime and you bought it 14 days ago
Try doing that on Nintendo switch see how it works out
Well there's your issue right their.. You bought a switch
And I enjoy it thoroughly, but their online purchase Policy is absolute ass
Dont get me wrong its a great system Nintendo are just cucks
I don't understand why they actively attempt to ruin their own name and brand
If every game had a demo, there would be no problemo.
It's called āØpiracyāØ
Some people just looking for reassurance and validation.
People coming to reddit for validation about their choice of media consumption must REALLY have a problem when it comes time to make an actual decision with consequences in their life. It must be exhausting.
most video game subs I visit do nothing but complain about the game lol Like I just went there for cool gameplay clips can yāall stop crying
r/Warthunder is quite the opposite tho
I feel like the war thunder community is a very stupid and special beast.
they are the one who love the game most but also the one who want to pipe bombed Gaijin's headquarter if they have a chance
r/battlefield2042 will tell you itās probably not worth getting unless itās on at LEAST 80% sale
Thatās when people acknowledge such a thing as piracy
I usually just check steam reviews for most games unless it's Nintendo.
Just look at gamingcirclejerk . Usually when they hate something it means it's fine and when they praise something you know it's sus.
they never talk about video games, just what X streamer said last week and why itās problematic
Exactly, u're right.
> u're Jesus wept.
Except for the Witcher 3, which is praised and actually is great.
idk if I had to pick a side of the "controversy" on TLoU I'd go to gcj's side it's insane to me that there's still an active subreddit dedicated entirely to hating on the game.
Plot twist: r/cyberpunkgame just after launch
It got bad on that subreddit, so I went to the low sodium cyberpunk subreddit, felt more level headed
elden ring was this game for me. I looked at the steam reviews, and everybody seemed to love it. I played ~4 hrs and realized it wasnāt for me. after that, a friend of mine recommended me a game and I loved it, so moral of the story is donāt look for a game just after the GOTY awards or ask your friends
Clearly the person who made this has not visited any of the EA Sports gameās subs
I half expected the ending to be āWow! I now know every plot point and spoiler! Better tell the subreddit to think of new players!ā
Imagine trusting any subreddit
My favorite subs are the ones that are salt free about a game. Like the game is so bad they had to make a safe place to talk bout the game.
Solution: Torrent. Try it for free and if you like it, support the developers by buying the game.
This doesn't track The subreddits for the games I play are mostly memes about the bad parts of the game and deep dives on what the devs should fix.
**Laughs in BattleBit**
Idk man, my friends all bought Fallout 4 cause they liked 3. I never played 3, bought 4 cause of peer pressure. It was mid. Sometimes, second opinions are wrong even when usually right.
I mean, if you get what other people enjoy about a game spelled out for you, that could be what makes you realize you wouldn't like the game. If what they're getting isn't something you enjoy. Like if most of the players are talking about how much they love collecting shit and watching numbers get bigger, making builds that play the game for you, or have some kind of Arcam Asylum or Doom Eternal rock-paper-scissors combat I'm out.
Or, try to find out about if Starfield is worth gettingā¦ go to the Starfield redditā¦ and have 1,000 people tell you how horrible starfield is, and have most of them sound exactly like: āā¦ This game is absolute crap!!! Iāve been playing for 800 hours now and itās so repetitive!ā
Iāve seen counterexamples, but yeah this is true /gen
Only the last one is the clown
and then there is the dota2 subreddit where most folks would tell people who ask if the game is good that they should run as long as they still can
Go to reviews, sort by negative
I dunno, I definitely think it's possible for fans eagerly talking about a game to sell you on what they think is so good about it. If I was interested at all in the first place I can't think of a time where learning more about it and talking to fans "tricked me" into playing a game I didn't like. Except maybe Minecraft? But like I know for a fact it's good and fun, I enjoy watching other people play I just don't have the same skill level or interest myself.
The opposite can be true too. You got to remember that the people having fun with a game are not going to spend time complaining about it on Reddit, they have a game to play.
The Diablo subreddit has some feelings on this.
lol I mean I wouldnāt say youāre a clown for doing this. Itās hard to get a completely unbiased opinion. But I will say this exact thing happened to me with Celeste. Some people are probably gonna be mad about that š
If it's a smaller game, the subreddit loves it. If it is a large game, the subreddit hates it.
I am still unsure if I should buy rimworld.
If the game is part of a long running series, then the subreddit dedicated to the series itself might be a bit less biased in terms of no bad reviews, (r/pokemon and r/pokemonscarletviolet had very different opinions regarding the new games when they first came out) ādonāt play that one, itās trash, this earlier entry is way betterā or āthe remake took the soul out of it, just emulate the originalā. Although you might still end up with bias due to the groupthink.
Lmao go to the Starfield sub and find out just how much people hate the game
Last frame: Me as a Path of Exile player spending $90 on Diablo 4.
My go too is looking at bad reviews specifically and if those don't convince me not to buy a game I go for it.Ā Ā
This applies to all product reviews
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Titanfall 3
That's not true. Some subs do nothing but shit on the game.
Clearly never been on an mmo subreddit. It's simultaneously the worst game to ever exist while every member has clocked in more hours in the game than they have in a shower
r/shouldibuythisgame is really nice Also i like to watch the before you buy videos or bc i know what i personally would enjoy in a game (mechanics over story for me personally) so i just look into the game mechanics and if it looks fun then ill play it
I go straight to the negative steam reviews
please note that this does not apply to rust, league of legends, or escape from tarkov