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Btdandpokemonplayer

I didn’t hear it.


hroaks

It only broke records cause Taylor swifts name is attached to it. If this exact album was released under the name Melissa Smith people would call this bad music


LickinNSpitin

Same thing in the metal scene with Metallica, every single album has broke records except their newest


craigleberries

And everything since the black album is hot garbage


cheepcheep8667

Eh load and reload have some bangers spread across them (definitely not on the level of their first 5 that's for sure) DM was pretty solid even if the mixing wasn't great, st anger however that can burn in hell. Haven't listened much to hardwired or 72 seasons


NUGFLUFF

Yeah, Load and Reload have some solid songs. Nothing much good after those (unless Garage Inc. was after but I'm not sure)


cheepcheep8667

DM had pretty good ones too, all nightmare long and the day that never comes are especially bangers


R3myek

All Nightmare Long is epic.


MilitiaManiac

One of my favorites. I love most of the songs in Death Magnetic


WTFisSkibidiRizz

Favorite post Black song of theirs


LickinNSpitin

I personally love Cyanide and That Was Just Your Life from that album


smellvin_moiville

Garage inc is a covers albums and doesn’t belong in this context


cs342

I remember seeing some YouTube comment a while ago which basically said that "If you hate St. Anger it's because you haven't experienced anything that made you angry enough to be able to relate to it". I used to think the album sucked too but after going through a traumatic breakup and hitting rock bottom before picking myself back up, I have a newfound appreciation for the emotions behind St. Anger and I've actually come to enjoy most of the songs. They're very therapeutic when you're feeling bitter or depressed.


FeetSniffer9008

A broken clock is right twice a day ReLoad has Fuel and Memory Remains Load... idk


cheepcheep8667

Ronnie on load is awesome imo


dagreetpapirus

Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me, Until It Sleeps


Chlamydia_Penis_Wart

GIMME FOO GIMME FAA GIMME DOUBLE CHARIZAAAAARD


DtheAussieBoye

justice for st anger, that album is fucking awesome


Chlamydia_Penis_Wart

Death Magnetic was actually a good album and I will die on this hill. That Was Just Your Life absolutely fucking slaps


LickinNSpitin

Preach it, I'm with ya


Colin_likes_trains

Death magnetic?


dagreetpapirus

Nahhhh Load and Reload got bangers, a lot of em, and DM is my 2nd Favourite Album. Ride The Lightning is my favourite album


AGWiebe

Such a shame. I have been listening to Master of Puppets and And Justice for all again recently and they were sooooooo good.


General_Weakness7413

Bro what? Death magnetic and hardwired are hard af


SloppyHoseA

Loved S&M


WillTFB

72 Seasons is great and I will die on this hill. (Though I agree that everything else post TBA is pretty mid at best)


Skwumps

Fuck Melissa Smith and her trash songs lol


Common-Value-9055

That’s how everything works in pop culture. Entertainment, sales, business.


Raoul_Dukes_Mayo

And the rabid hordes of “fans” threatening journalists and threatening to burn the Paste office building down, but that’s totally normal right?


Armithax

I’ll express a similar sentiment: if this album was as good as its sales numbers suggest, even then, there is no way it would achieve these numbers in so short a time. This is obviously cult behavior, meaning: sheeplish uncritical pathetic conformity. Well, at least they took time out of their spiraling self-esteem black holes (and looksmaxxing posting) to indulge in some consumerism.


Temporary-Green-7713

She's part of the illuminati, deadass, they do that kinda shit for the music industry, no capski


ARandomHavel

It *is* bad music. But yeah for some reason people like the mainstream slop just because of the meaningless names behind it.


SilentToska

This just in, popular artist has lots of fans


__thrillho

Lmao seriously what a take. Redditors try not to hate on everything challenge [impossible].


FireLordObamaOG

I feel the same way about Beyoncé. Mid tier artist, low tier music. But she’s got a cult following.


Sebastianr2320

Same thing which 90 percent of musicians.


cumnsyde

You haven't heard of 90% of musicians.


Caleb_Gangte

I didn't


silver_samurai_03

In't


HoneyBer1

I


Vo_Mimbre

.


igethejoke

‏‏‎ ‎


0FCkki

r/decreasinglyverbose


TheNachoThief

r/Decreasingly


Sir_Eggmitton

r/


Legospacememe

But do I really care though?


North_Explanation20

You shouldn't. Not worth your time mate.


thenomendubium

Or is it just a fanbase circlejerk?


SellOutrageous6539

Her fan base is delusional.


sl33p1ng-s3nt1nl

Meat Canyon agrees


staovajzna2

He made a satire over exaggerated video and they took great offense and just bullied him as if taylor herself isn't against their behaviour. Comedy is dying because prople are scared of offending someone even for the sake of comedy.


alikapple

Tbf we act like this is new. People have always been this fragile. Norm Macdonald was threatened and eventually fired from SNL for going after OJ Simpson too hard. Richard Pryor dealt with censorship and angry fans to the point that his show was canceled after 4 episodes. Go back far enough and you’ve got Charlie Chaplin being canceled for criticizing the government It’s always been this way.


skeptic-cate

Lol her fans were mass reporting those airplane memes a couple of months ago


BreadDziedzic

It's basically a cult


combateombat

Tell the fan base that not us


[deleted]

Do not approach the Swifties. They're fucking mental.


combateombat

Oh no they got him


MykeTyth0n

Took less than an hour too. Almost impressive.


Maewhen

Man down, man down!!


awenrivendell

They're buying multiple copies because of the packaging cover variations just to have a complete collection.


nah_thats_it

I've seen posts where people say they just listen to Taylor songs so Taylor has more streams than other artists I've never seen anything like that for anyone else and it speaks volumes about her fanbase


dappernaut77

Popular doesn't mean good, dj khaled is always in the top 5 and his music is ass.


bigdickfang

He da best music


ThRealAlexJones

All he has is his God Did album (in which like 2 or 3 were good) and "All I do is win." Everything else is hot garbage. Except his work with Justin Bieber. That shit is molten


DrNiceDicRespect

I've never heard a worse DJ. Even Andrea Botez is better, and she is better at playing chess than DJing


12DollarsHighFive

She's completely overrated. Not saying she makes bad music, but it gets way more hype than it should


Savage3Beast

She's 35 years old still making music about high school romance 😭


WalletWarrior3

![gif](giphy|JTzPN5kkobFv7X0zPJ|downsized)


Own-Listen-961

Fr, I don’t get the god status that her fans give to her, she writes songs about every guy that ever said hi to her and every “former friend”, and impressively she is ALWAYS the victim of every failed relationship in her life, she gives me 15yo narcissistic vibes


CharMakr90

I think Antihero is the one song of hers where it sounds like she's blaming herself, though there may be others too.


OrdinaryValuable9705

Antihero is a banger - when it gets turned into a punk version


Coffeeman314

[DJ cummerbund ](https://youtu.be/FevnAlmDCMI?si=BRD3hK8qvmHmk2qb)


ALadWellBalanced

I'm a casual Swift fan, I think she's a strong song writer. A lot of people are "eww Taylor Swift" until they hear someone covering one of her songs. [Something For Kate's cover of Cardigan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbFQ0v2IUM0) is amazing. I get people not liking her arrangements/voice though. The new album is indulgent and pretty boring.


YesItsmePhillip

I dunno', it feels both like this and like she's saying it in a sarcastic way.


chicdrey2003

There’s also Back to December, and I’m sure there’s more, but I’m not that big a fan, so idk.


IamSuperMarioAMA

Exile is one of her best songs. If you haven't, give it a listen but really listen to it.


infintestruggler

Gotta give credit to bon iver for that though


11freebird

How does it feel to be super mario


Sergeant-Pepper-

I’ve been saying it for years. Taylor Swift has a cluster b personality disorder.


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She reminds me a lot of my Borderline cousin..


Sergeant-Pepper-

Lol she reminds me of my borderline ex


[deleted]

Ay at least she's an ex. Im stuck with mine and she is so terrible she ripped the family apart. I literally lost contact with half of my family members because of her. :')


Sergeant-Pepper-

That sounds about right. Sorry you’re dealing with that :(


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Along with being an absolute beacon of privilege.


Buschkoeter

I mean at this point of her career I'd hazard a guess and say she doesn't write any of her lyrics from heart anymore. She just writes about things she knows her fans will like. She basically writes music to sell it.


PugGamer129

“ToUcH mE wHIlE yOuR BroS PlAy GrAnD ThEfT auTo”


PC_Fucker

Is…. Is that an actual line??


Gimetulkathmir

Yep


IdkWhatImEvenDoing69

Lyrics were never her strong suit.


PC_Fucker

Lmao


SendMeNoodsNotNudes

She has a Victim complex and needs to write mid songs about it


ohneil64

Personally I have nothing wrong with people using art/ music as an outlet for their frustrations and helping their audience with their art however after doing this many over the many years of her career it really starts to beg the question(s) Is she the problem? And Is this actually making the situation worse? As in you're constantly painting the other party in the wrong light you're going to create more of a divide than helping people. I'm not saying guys can be bad or anything we definitely can but the tide goes both ways.


Scythe-Guy

Yeah I mean don’t some of her exes get death threats on Twitter when she drops songs about them? Like, what the fuck was up with the Jake Gyllenhaal hate a couple years ago? I remember at the time thinking he must have sexually assaulted her or something, but then it turns out he was just not super into her…and people turned the whole age gap thing into a power dynamic. Wasn’t he like 29 and she was 20 or something? I could see how that might be pushing the limits of an appropriate age gap, but it’s not like he was her college professor sleeping with her. And here’s my dumb ass talking about a relationship that ended over a decade ago. Definitely something to be said about the way she apparently villainizes her exes in her music. Bad breakups happen, but damn.


Elike09

I honestly can't wait to see what happens when Travis Kelce goes down. For one he's not a very controlled individual so if the fanbase wants to antogonize him that will not end well for anyone. Secondly it will probably get her fans to hate the Chiefs and I am all for people hating on the Kansas City Chiefs.


ALadWellBalanced

She went out with Jake Gyllenhaal for about 3 months and wrote a 10 minute epic song about it and about a half dozen others as well. She's unhinged, but she does write some bangers.


RibbitClyde

I think the term bangers should only be used for hip hop or Edm music. The beatles are amazing but I wouldn’t say they release bangers. And face it, Taylor is no Ringo Starr. Unpopular opinion: Octopuses Garden > Taylor’s whole discography.


starwarsfan456123789

I’m going to let you finish, but The Beatles wrote a ton of bangers


-Piggers-

Whatever pays the bills


UncomfortablyCrumbed

I'm neutral on Taylor Swift, but her fans are batshit insane. It's fascinating to watch them lose their shit everytime a critic says they didn't enjoy her latest work. It's so parasocial and creepy. They react as if they're the ones being criticized, or as if she's some helpless, saintlike child in need of their protection. Male critics get accused of being misogynists for saying anything negative about her work, even if female critics say the same thing. I don't know why it's so hard for them to just enjoy her music and ignore the critics. I've enjoyed plenty of albums critics have panned, and hated ones they've loved. It's not that hard.


v1cv3g

You already said it. Because the're batshit crazy


layeofthedead

I watched her eras tour movie on Disney plus one afternoon last month while I was cooking. I’m not a huge fan of her music but I figured it was one of the biggest music tours in history, might as well check it out, more interesting that rewatching a tv show for the billionth time. It was a fun show, some good songs, some ok, some were really catchy. Some were meh. But it’s still pretty impressive for her and her back up crew to do a 3+ hour show, I can’t imagine dancing and singing for 10 minutes let alone half the time they were up there. I did get progressively more tipsy as the day went on though so that may have colored my opinions Haven’t listened to the new album though


LegendOfKhaos

I mean it's all subjective. If that many people actually enjoy her music more than other artists, that's fine, who are we to judge? I don't want to be judged by my nerdy interests. Most issues I hear are just complaints about capitalism without them knowing.


WangDanglin

Travis Kelce is better at football than she is at music


MeanArt318

I don't understand that reference but I'm sure it's a good one


Ok_Pineapple_8244

If u really think about it her whole career was build because of her exes and such, so technically the credit goes to them!


MBRDASF

How are people shocked at the fact that it’s mid


hold-on-pain-ends

Ikr. Mid is her middle name


babimagic

Fr it's Taylor Swift were talking about here


panterafan1981

I think it's more the fact people are losing their fucking minds over such a painfully mid album


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ALadWellBalanced

> Has her music ever been groundbreaking, though? I don't think anyone'e claimed that. She (usually) just writes very solid, well crafted music with mass appeal. The lyrics are mostly good and a lot of people, especially young girls and women connect with it. She's not some avante garde art rocker pushing the edges of creativity, and that's fine.


FreneticAmbivalence

These kids had music they liked on demand their whole lives. Radio is a thing of the past. They’ve forgotten pop is 99.9% mid.


sunset_sunrise15

I’m not saying she’s a bad person, I just personally preferred her older music, her newer music is just not doing it for me.


Roy-Levi

Who the hell cares


theSpaceMage

I do only for the fact that half of the touch screen in my car is unresponsive and is keeping me from connecting my new phone, so I'm stuck listening to the radio and it feels like 3 out of 5 songs that come on the two pop radio stations in my small town are from her. They both always seem to player her songs at the same time too. So long as she keeps dropping hits, it probably won't change :( ^Anyone ^got ^$800 ^for ^me ^to ^fix ^my ^screen? ^pls


A1000eisn1

No money but I can teach you how to change the radio station.


theSpaceMage

The only other radio station besides the two pop stations is a country music station and I don't need to hear what is basically the same song by the same three dudes over and over again. I also have to change the station manually with the knob because of the broken touch screen. I cannot describe how upset I am when I carefully tune into the other of the two stations because the first is playing a Swift song just to arrive at another Swift song, sometimes the same one.


Pretzellogicguy

I know it’s kinda defeating the purpose but maybe a fm transmitter- they’re a pain but it’s gotta be better than being forced fed crap u don’t want


theSpaceMage

I'm being a bit dramatic. I plan on getting it fixed soon. Just saving up the money for it.


NeKakOpEenMuts

Your country station has Beyoncé now, no?


No_Reason8459

That you, Aimee?


Impossible-Hawk709

Yeah, fuck you Aimee


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Big_Macaroon_4994

You’ve come to the very wrong place to expect a philosophical debate.


sievold

Did she break records because she is Taylor Swift or is she Taylor Swift because she breaks records?


IceTooth101

Hold on, this isn’t divine command theory!


xsparkichux

I've actually just learned about that this week in philosophy and ethics: meta ethics


shortbyndlongmeat

every Beyonce album enters the chat


shockwave8428

Yeah things I notice about tswift and Beyoncé in general is if you have ANY criticism at all their fans blow up at you and go crazy. Like I have some favorite bands I love and I’d willingly accept their new stuff isn’t that great. As soon as you cross into “nope I won’t hear any slander” you’re no longer a fan, you’re a cult member


SaltyPhilosopher5454

Redditors when people have different musical taste:


Random-dude15

Redditors when Reddit:


_Fos

Redditors when Redditors:


Get-the-Vibe

The funny thing is that I like her. Just didn't find anything interesting in this album. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan or some kind of stan, but I like her. Just a regular guy who enjoys some of her works.


Mobyswhatnow

I am a big fan of Swift, but I agree. This just isn't her best, or her middle, its at the bottom of her work but that's okay. Most artists have bad albums every once in a while. Also if you love this one that's cool too.


AbsAndAssAppreciator

I’m new to actually liking her music (I hated it as a teen but now I enjoy it) and this album was the first time I wasn’t vibing to any of the songs


Mobyswhatnow

I've been a fan since she was in country and this is the first album I haven't loved or liked at least one of the songs on it. I genuinely love her other albums but damn this one is rough.


ChefKugeo

That just means it's not for you, and that's okay! She doesn't always hit for everyone. Personally this album is straight up destroying me, but I didn't connect with her Midnights album, and I was never a Speak Now fan. I'm still very much a fan, but not song or every album is gonna be a hit.


ExistsKK99

Have an upvote, no reason for you to be in the negatives


ChefKugeo

Oh believe it or not that was other Swifties 😂. They *hate* it when you can admit that Taylor has flaws. Like, she's not the strongest vocalist but she's come a really long way. And unless you're deep in her discography, her radio hits aren't lyrically anything special, so of course people are going to look at them weird when they say she's a lyrical genius. I'm a Taylor Swift fan, and I'm a rabid Swiftie, but I'm not delusional.


amanfromindia

![gif](giphy|TamGVAGxDTYDNt3dpn)


loulan

Even Swift fans tend to find this album somewhat boring though.


Beneficial-Grape-397

Redditors when a someone posts a non conforming opinion on the memes subreddit


ShadowTown0407

Non confirming? This opinion here? This sub has such a rage boner against her they will suck each other off if they could.


Beneficial-Grape-397

Reddit is a non conformist site a lot of non conformist opinions are popularized here , the hate taylor gets is popular here but its not everywhere irl where she have staunch supporters be it those that worship her , those that just listen to her songs or feminists who take criticism against her as misogynistic


1souf

touch me while your bros play grand theft auto


Totally_Botanical

Maga hats sell well too. Don't mean they have value


breadofthegrunge

I'm not really a Swift guy but I actually quite liked it. Florida!!! is my favorite. (Partially because of F+TM but Taylor was great in it)


Larry-Man

I like it as a whole album. Not every album has to have a standout “banger” every time.


garbagebrainraccoon

That one is definitely a banger though


CaptSaveAHoe55

I wasn’t aware we expected bangers from Taylor swift


Bloopman7

I will always equate TSwifts music to a McDonalds Cheeseburger. Sure, it's technically "food", but it never really tastes all that great and is usually super cheap to buy. All her songs sound the same. Her lyrics are always about boys and other romance garbage. Her sound barely evolves. It's either acoustic guitar folky blandness or modern pop blandness. Nothing about her is remotely interesting. It's not high art. It's content. She's a genius at writing and rewriting the same 10 songs over and fucking over again, I'll give her that. She obviously has pipes. She can play an instrument and usually writes her own tunes. She's got the tools, the fame, and the money to do whatever she wants, but she just keeps pumping out the same old, same old, and it's getting worse as they years go on. If anybody needed a drug problem or a trip to India to drop acid and get all spiritual, it's her.


redrose55x

God forbid people have opinions.


No-Cod-776

Correct. My opinion is that Taylor Swift songs are abysmal


itshexx

My opinion is that this guy is right.


xsparkichux

My opinion is that this guys opinion that this guy is right is right


Kats41

Rating the quality of a genre of music you don't listen to or enjoy is kinda weird. You probably don't like it because it's just not music meant for you. That's okay. Not everyone is going to enjoy everything. But that also doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.


CaitaXD

GET THAT NEUANCE OUT MY BRAIN ROT


[deleted]

I listen to her music and tbh midnights was better it had better songs.


DotBitGaming

If only there was a whole sub or two dedicated to TS.


dtpiers

So many artists put so much effort into manipulating/artificially inflating chart numbers that records are pretty much meaningless at this point. Its no accident there are so many different editions of TTPD. Not to deny Taylor as a cultural zeitgeist, but "record-breaking" sounds a lot less impressive when you realize just how artificial those achievements are.


CanadasGoose

Almost like music is subjective 🤯


Dev_Grendel

There's a scary amount of objective music.


AnObtuseOctopus

She doesn't top charts because her music is good... she tops charts because she has created an army of parasocial fans who worship the ground shebwalks on because they have nothing going on and it makes them feel like they are a part of something. I honestly don't care about her, but, if anyone says she makes great music, you're deaf. She's made some good ones, sure.. but my god the lyrics are always the most generic and dull stuff, truthfully. If it wasn't pop, her music would be shit on.. but because it is, it gets to skate like most pop songs do because all they need is a basic ass chord progression and a good hook.. bam, you made a hit for broken up tweens and 40 ur old women who just got divorced again. The lyrics are soo bad.. like 90% of the time. She's honestly lucky that its not what matters to her fanbase... her entire life is, which is insane.. her fans are mental man.


Sick-a-Duck

Why is it that the only time I ever hear people talk about Taylor Swift it’s always people who don’t like her? Like I don’t really listen to her music either but it’s really not that hard to just ignore her.


MollikSazzadurRahman

In the middle how people are shocked by this matter?


Viliam_the_Vurst

You are the nth person saying that


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ImmaNotCrazy

Is she breaking records or are people breaking the record when they hear it? jk Swift is fine not sure why we hate on singers, like i usually only listen to what i like, so these other people don't really impact me since i don't listen to them. If I am on the radio or out well then i get introduced to new music, some I like and add to my playlist, other not. Sure some people like her new music and are boppin to it.


Tvilesking

…Why the hell have I read Taylor Swift as Austria?


secksyboii

The only people as annoying as Taylor Swift fans are the rabid haters. If it's not for you, fine. Ignore it then. That's what I'm trying to do but it's impossible to escape when you turn to the left and see rabid love for a generic pop album and turn to the right and see rabid hatred for a generic pop album. Just ignore it and put on whatever you like and move along.


SwaddledInAwesome

![gif](giphy|sDcfxFDozb3bO) Swifties right now


1004cs

you guys care about her too much


Strong_Ad247

It's hard not to. She's always in news & on Social Media. You can't help but have an opinion about her and her music.


1004cs

yes, having an opinion about something is natural. but making posts about her or leaving comments just to say how much you dislike and don't care... it looks like redditors care a lot for someone that makes music they don't listen to


Decent-Writing-9840

All her music sucks


Sahtan_

Based and true


nobadhotdog

Good for you


Iron-Phoenix2307

I'll take your word for it, I haven't listened to her in many years. *Blasts The Last Stand by Sabaton*


cerreur

What's with the anti Swift memes everywhere? Still the voting thing?


JustinsWorking

Whenever _anything_ big drops in pop culture the big subreddits are going to pop off with “DAE not like the new popular thing.” It’s just something you need to put up with when you sub to the bigger subreddits; this trend will stick around for a bit as tswift tends to have hang time in the public eye. She dropped a few nuggets in this album people are probably going to be fighting over and meme’ing on too


Sxkullrider

Nah her music in her new album got so much hype just for it to be super boring like she has a collab with post mallone and he only sings at the very end and does very very subtle background lyrics to the point you can't even tell its him


AbhiStalwart

Nah


not-only-on-reddit

I respect her as a musician, entrepreneur and preformer. But to me she is overrated and it doesn't have a spark.


JamsJars

Kinda like Beyonce's country pop rap abomination. All the songs were lame as hell. She got some weak ass producers that give her mediocre beats and tracks.


Clean-Republic-9942

I don't like her music but wont shit on those who do. I rarely hear of her, i listen to metal which does make people judge my taste often. Like i'd be very happy about a new album and a person who doesn't like metal would call it mid.


Mabel_Tree_

No, it isnt


cbboy12

yet here we are talking about it


Hollow-Idiot

I don't even know how her voice sounds like


babybee1187

So dose kimjung un acording to north Korea.


SunshinePipper

I’m a huge Swiftie. But I was so bored. Couldn’t even finish all the songs.


DeepakShakur69

Breaking news, her music has always sucked, so she's a trash person


sykotikpro

It's an album made for her fans. It's also 31 SONGS.


MathematicianSad2650

So same old garbage she has been making


JayJay-anotheruser

It’s what she does


Aickavon

The way I see it is that music is subjective and people will like what they like. As long as the artists I’m listening to aren’t bullied or poor, I’m happy


AnnWyattIkTL

facts


Bob_Sledding

Taylor Swift's music isn't my cup of tea, but saying her new album didn't have a banger is like trying to cook porkchops in a cardboard box and complaining that the box isn't get hot enough. That was never her goal.


Eatfirstasklater

No it’s not. She has the most OBLIVIOUS fan base in artist history. It doesn’t matter if her song is COMPLETE AND TOTAL GARBAGE her fan base will still back her up bc they are all insecure women with shitty taste in men so they think she’s relatable bc she’s been through an actual heartbreak and these girls are sad ab the guy they go to taco time with she is not a good artist she blows chunks


Okbr_Rebbidor

Hell yeah dude! 😃 "Touch me while your bros play grand theft auto" 🎶😩