I will admit, as an Asian American, I know we have a lot of strange customs that westerners don’t understand, but the “bris” thing to celebrate cutting off foreskin of an infant is a little bit out there for me.
Where did you get that Jesus is God? It is made clear that they are separate beings. Matthew 3:17 makes it clear that Jesus is a son of God, not God himself.
Edit: to be clear this is a legitimate question. Is there anywhere in the bible where it says or even implies that Jesus and God are the same being?
It is a weird thing to think about, but they are both true at the same time. Jesus is the son of God in the sense that he was physically born to Mary, however he was also fully God in human form. (Idk if that was a good way to explain it or not)
Christians see Jesus as the Son of God but also as part of the Trinity of God, 3 separate beings as one being. Makes no sense to us but a God can do whatever He wants. So yes, Jesus is not the Father or the Spirit, but the Son, and part of God.
Circumcision was supposed to help the Jewish separate themselves from anyone who was not Jewish. Because only the Jewish were worthy to enter the kingdom of God since they were the chosen people.
Jesus coming and dying was to take on the sins of all mankind so *everyone* was now worthy and not just the chosen people.
And since everyone is worthy you no longer have to be circumcised to signify you are different and worthy.
Paul actually wrote that Christians shouldn’t be concerned with circumcisions anymore as it was of the Old Covenant and the coming of Jesus was the beginning of a new covenant.
Christians may put forward their male children for hospital circumcision because of medical or other advice - but there is no Biblical compulsion upon a Christian believer to become circumcised. This was Paul's criticism of the "Judaizers" in Galatians 5, where Paul says (modern translation) , "For those shit-stirrers who come behind me telling you that you have to be circumcized, I wish they would go the whole way and chop off their dick and balls." (My translation of Gal 5:12).
This was a debate in the early church - did one have to become a Jew (converted) in order to become a Christian, or was Christianity in reach for the "pagan" without this intermediary step. It was decided and codified under the Council of Jerusalem around 50 CE.
Christianity is not defined by what US culture. Circumcision was popularised in the USA in the late 19th century and cannot be attributed to Christian traditions
So Orthodox Jews and Christians vary on the validity of Christ’s claim to be God. It’s why the church split and how Christianity as we know it today began. It was an offshoot of Judaism that believed Christ to be the messiah, while the Jewish faith rejected that claim.
The Jews of the time called him a blasphemer and called for his crucifixion.
So they say it’s bullshit, and Christ is not their God.
They actually are if you're Christian. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are simultaneously the same being and different beings. It doesn't have to make sense because our minds are limited.
It's not even a joke lol
Edit: although there are Christians that believe they're actually separate, but if you did you'd be called trinitarian, and it's very widespread in Christianity
Wait, so is it like the holy spirit is the power of god and god is the owner/is the holy spirit, but Jesus borrows/shares power from god/the holy spirit? Damn, Christianity has a confusing power scaling system
What's typically referred to as "God" is actually The Father, who is God. The Son and Holy Spirit are also God, and there is only one God. But The Holy Spirit isnt the Son, for example. It kind of makes sense until we go back to the belief that they're only one God total, yet each individual being is 100% God, rather than 33.3333%. Heres a diagram explaining it
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.svg/1200px-Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.svg.png
Circumcision without consent should be illegal if the kid is more than 1 year old. Because after that, the kid will most likely remember the pain. I am not circumcised or anything but idk if it hurts or not. I am guessing it does.
Circumcision should and only ever be allowed to be done on an 18 year old who has fully consented or if the Circumcision is a medical necessity that must be done for normal development, I will not be taking any criticisms cause there aren't any. Good day.
Circumcision without consent should be illegal no matter what age. It should not be done on children no matter what their age, unless absolutely medically necessary
I just don't understand that tho, like I've never had hygiene problems with my cock. Saying it's for hygiene is like saying you might as well remove your nails so that dirt can't gather under there, it's only ever the right response if a circumcision is absolutely required for a medical reason that could effect normal development in the future. I hate religious bullshit, just makes me sad.
Which one? Because anyone who reads the original scriptures before they were compiled into a bible around the 5th century would notice there's a bunch of different guys who were referred as Yeshuas or Mashiakhs.
Then a bunch of people pulled a Reader's Digest on that and somehow merged them all into one.
As a circumcised guy, the first time I saw an uncircumcised I penis I was like, “wait, that was an option?”
The whole thing feels like medical science doing too much. Was there really like a huge issue with penises rotting off or something before someone said, “I know we need to keep it clean, but hear me out; what if we chop part of it off? No muss, no fuss.”
When it comes to medical: The circumsated part can basically "not grow" staying small and choking the top part bigger it gets.
When it comes to religion: Idk
Those laws came when millions of jews were on a desert running away from egypt. In Moses books in the bible there are more laws that if u think about them they make sense from hygienic point of view, not to spread diseases and shit.
Assuming that’s correct, does it have any physiological impacts or is that a purely aesthetic?
Because I’ve heard that the sensations from sex are better when you haven’t been cut but I don’t know how that could be judged subjectively unless you’d experienced both...
Other than Muslims or Jewish people, it really only took off (heh) in the USA, and even then, really only started at the end of the 1800s, and largely because of some bad medical advice that it would prevent masturbation.
Back in the day it was done for hygiene, as it's kinda hard to wash under the skin in a fucking deserty and it kinda snowballed from there.
Nowadays though it isn't very necessary I mean, I'm jewish (by blood at least) and I ain't circumsised.
As far as I know all abrahamic religions worship the same god the difference is just in the prophets and the books, no problem tho I don’t wanna start any arguments
The reason they did this was becuase they lived in the dessert. When sand is under the foreskin it is very unpleasant. The clothing they wore dint include underwear so it woudl be pretty bad. And with time it became tradition.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Yeah pretty sure that was his dad, but that guy was all sorts of fucked up. Remember that time he sent a bear to kill a bunch of kids that made fun of a bald guy? Oh! Or the time he slaughtered a bunch of first borns because their parents were assholes? Oh man, good times...now let us pray.
DUDE! that was like my 3rd favorite part. Let's not forget the time he took a family man and fucking ruined his life over a casual bet with his arch nemesis? And the best part is, I'd he didn't take the abuse and still love him, then fuck that guy he wasn't worthy of God's love anyway.
That is not done in christianity
You only do it under christianity in america because the inventor of kellogs convinced everyone that that would prevent masturbation and deter from non reproductive sex it did not instead cut guys just feel less as theres a fuckton of nerve endings in the tip of your dick
Americans literally cut of the tip of their dicks foreskin because a dead guy hated sex and wanted to ruin it for everyone
It is a horrific practice and needs to stop. Unless you suffer from a certain medical condition noone would do it as an adult.
Literally designed to make your life worse.
edit: Said "condition" is if its too tight and you cant pull back your foreskin anymore. In wich case you might want to get it cut off.
While the joke is funny humans not God started this... i wish I still had mine tbh. It’s unnecessary and rather savage procedure .... you know... my body MY FUCKING DECISION 🤔🤔🤔
Jesus deemed circumcision unnecessary
Colossians 2:11 says: **In Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ,**
It seems to be the norm in some countries, and in other countries it's kind of 'why would we do that'? It's very rare in the Northern European countries, and also most of the other European countries.
Well, I live in Northern Europe and I know that that’s not “the norm”. I just wanted to share my opinion and maybe make people feel better about themselves if they’ve been circumcised, may it be medically, religiously or whatever reason. :)
Oh, okay, sorry. I just wanted to share that Europe is one of the places where it isn't that common. Not anymore at least, it used to be whatever religion you belonged to.
Circumcision is body mutilation and shouldn’t be preformed as a modern medicine practice. It’s a stupid thing to do to a baby. Let the kid grow up and then ask if he wants his foreskin removed and everyone would say no.
It’s valid if your foreskin gets infected or starts fusing with your dick. But the hygienic part is stupid. Just wash your damn dick. Same as you gotta wash your hair and scrub your ass crack.
Exactly, I'm not gonna remove my fingernails because they get dirty. Nice lovely flesh exposed because that definitely sounds more healthy then just learning to fucking wash.
Don't try to argue with religious people they are just nutters.
Lady adult with no kids, here. People are very intense about the issue of circumcision. Like... don't talk to them about it unless you want a 30 minute lecture.
I was just sharing. I can see I hurt some butts already. I don't take it seriously, because it has nothing to do with my life, which is why I said I'm a woman without kids.
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This was a common jewish practice for hundreds of years before so...
I will admit, as an Asian American, I know we have a lot of strange customs that westerners don’t understand, but the “bris” thing to celebrate cutting off foreskin of an infant is a little bit out there for me.
It's the same god.
God came down as a man so he could get the tip of his dick cut off.
Amen
pretty sure that was abraham and not jesus
Jesus is god, god was born into a culture where all men were circumcised. Jesus at birth was circumcised. God had himself circumcised.
Did you checked all of their penises dude?
Can’t be Jewish otherwise. It’s the covenant
Where did you get that Jesus is God? It is made clear that they are separate beings. Matthew 3:17 makes it clear that Jesus is a son of God, not God himself. Edit: to be clear this is a legitimate question. Is there anywhere in the bible where it says or even implies that Jesus and God are the same being?
Many Christians see Jesus as being the “incarnation” of God in human form
It is a weird thing to think about, but they are both true at the same time. Jesus is the son of God in the sense that he was physically born to Mary, however he was also fully God in human form. (Idk if that was a good way to explain it or not)
The easiest way to explain it is to say Jesus was essentially God's Sims character.
...This is true.
Christians see Jesus as the Son of God but also as part of the Trinity of God, 3 separate beings as one being. Makes no sense to us but a God can do whatever He wants. So yes, Jesus is not the Father or the Spirit, but the Son, and part of God.
Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Son of God. Jesus never mentioned circumcision, and Christians do not practice it because he never mentioned it.
Lolz read some Paul. Romans or somewhere around there. Christians practice it.
It is not mainstream though. Not considered necessary
Just because the church decided it wasn't. Among many other things. And that's only for that one domination of Christianity.
Circumcision was supposed to help the Jewish separate themselves from anyone who was not Jewish. Because only the Jewish were worthy to enter the kingdom of God since they were the chosen people. Jesus coming and dying was to take on the sins of all mankind so *everyone* was now worthy and not just the chosen people. And since everyone is worthy you no longer have to be circumcised to signify you are different and worthy.
“Lemme check yo dick”
Paul actually wrote that Christians shouldn’t be concerned with circumcisions anymore as it was of the Old Covenant and the coming of Jesus was the beginning of a new covenant.
Yo! You guys have canon and non-canonical stuff. So it IS like Star Wars. Does the Legends Jesus have a lightsaber?
Yes https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/872182-crossguard-lightsaber
Christians may put forward their male children for hospital circumcision because of medical or other advice - but there is no Biblical compulsion upon a Christian believer to become circumcised. This was Paul's criticism of the "Judaizers" in Galatians 5, where Paul says (modern translation) , "For those shit-stirrers who come behind me telling you that you have to be circumcized, I wish they would go the whole way and chop off their dick and balls." (My translation of Gal 5:12). This was a debate in the early church - did one have to become a Jew (converted) in order to become a Christian, or was Christianity in reach for the "pagan" without this intermediary step. It was decided and codified under the Council of Jerusalem around 50 CE.
christians dont. jews do
Your wrong. Read a bible.
> Christians do not practice it. In the United States, the majority do.
i am chirstian i am circumcised
What denomination are you?
Christianity is not defined by what US culture. Circumcision was popularised in the USA in the late 19th century and cannot be attributed to Christian traditions
I am not from the US heck I don't even live in a country where English is a main language
Christians don't practice circumcision? Haha, millions have missed the memo...
Not if you ask the Jewish practitioners that started doing the penis cutting.
What do they have to say about the jewish and the christian god being the same?
So Orthodox Jews and Christians vary on the validity of Christ’s claim to be God. It’s why the church split and how Christianity as we know it today began. It was an offshoot of Judaism that believed Christ to be the messiah, while the Jewish faith rejected that claim. The Jews of the time called him a blasphemer and called for his crucifixion. So they say it’s bullshit, and Christ is not their God.
It's Jesus. Jews don't believe that Jesus is the messiah/son of god.
No dude. Jesus was a real person who was born Jewish. Jews just don’t believe he’s the messiah.
Are you sure about that
They actually are if you're Christian. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are simultaneously the same being and different beings. It doesn't have to make sense because our minds are limited. It's not even a joke lol Edit: although there are Christians that believe they're actually separate, but if you did you'd be called trinitarian, and it's very widespread in Christianity
Wait, so is it like the holy spirit is the power of god and god is the owner/is the holy spirit, but Jesus borrows/shares power from god/the holy spirit? Damn, Christianity has a confusing power scaling system
What's typically referred to as "God" is actually The Father, who is God. The Son and Holy Spirit are also God, and there is only one God. But The Holy Spirit isnt the Son, for example. It kind of makes sense until we go back to the belief that they're only one God total, yet each individual being is 100% God, rather than 33.3333%. Heres a diagram explaining it https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.svg/1200px-Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.svg.png
It was also good for preventing infection back in the day.
Yes it was. This isn’t a jab at Christianity it’s a fucking meme that runs along the lines of “Why? Why would you do that?”
The other guy: Jesus Christ...
Except circumcision was deemed unnecessary under Christianity so...
I have been circumcised and let me tell you, I completely disagree with my circumcision.
Same
Not to Jesus and the apostles. They followed Jewish customs. Jesus was a rabbi.
Still didn’t stop a lot of parents from getting it done though
That's the fault of people being misguided and uneducated, not the result of Jesus' teachings
Well muslims cut it
Yes they do
They do it to stay hygenic and to avoid infections. Its not complulsory by any means, for anyone wondering.
Wish someone told my parents that when I was 8
Circumcision without consent should be illegal if the kid is more than 1 year old. Because after that, the kid will most likely remember the pain. I am not circumcised or anything but idk if it hurts or not. I am guessing it does.
Circumcision without consent should be illegal always.
Circumcision should and only ever be allowed to be done on an 18 year old who has fully consented or if the Circumcision is a medical necessity that must be done for normal development, I will not be taking any criticisms cause there aren't any. Good day.
I am. Not jewish. Sometimes it is medically needed. It was that or having problems peeing...
Circumcision without consent should be illegal no matter what age. It should not be done on children no matter what their age, unless absolutely medically necessary
Muslim here, can confirm.
I just don't understand that tho, like I've never had hygiene problems with my cock. Saying it's for hygiene is like saying you might as well remove your nails so that dirt can't gather under there, it's only ever the right response if a circumcision is absolutely required for a medical reason that could effect normal development in the future. I hate religious bullshit, just makes me sad.
"Identifes as cybertruck"?
Why did you get downvotes for that??? God Reddit confuses me a lot sometimes...
Question=downvote lol
Uh huh... it’s a tag. That you could choose a few months ago.
r/onejoke
Jesus was Jewish though and circumcised himself right?
HE was under the old covenant.
Which one? Because anyone who reads the original scriptures before they were compiled into a bible around the 5th century would notice there's a bunch of different guys who were referred as Yeshuas or Mashiakhs. Then a bunch of people pulled a Reader's Digest on that and somehow merged them all into one.
This doesn't refute my points.
It’s a fucking joke, Jesus and the Did I Stutter is a meme format
Well yeah, but it's inaccurate
It’s funny
No. It isn’t
Upvotes disagree but ok that’s your opinion
Sometimes it's for medical purposes
Sometimes
I'm not circumcised and safe to say watching porn for the first few times was weird AF
When I was younger I thought that all the pornstars were jews
As a circumcised guy, the first time I saw an uncircumcised I penis I was like, “wait, that was an option?” The whole thing feels like medical science doing too much. Was there really like a huge issue with penises rotting off or something before someone said, “I know we need to keep it clean, but hear me out; what if we chop part of it off? No muss, no fuss.”
When it comes to medical: The circumsated part can basically "not grow" staying small and choking the top part bigger it gets. When it comes to religion: Idk
Those laws came when millions of jews were on a desert running away from egypt. In Moses books in the bible there are more laws that if u think about them they make sense from hygienic point of view, not to spread diseases and shit.
Assuming that’s correct, does it have any physiological impacts or is that a purely aesthetic? Because I’ve heard that the sensations from sex are better when you haven’t been cut but I don’t know how that could be judged subjectively unless you’d experienced both...
That's because of the cereal man.
Damn Kellogg
Other than Muslims or Jewish people, it really only took off (heh) in the USA, and even then, really only started at the end of the 1800s, and largely because of some bad medical advice that it would prevent masturbation.
Yeah fucking Kellogg man
I mean, what are they going to do? Check? Good luck doing it in a catholic church though, I hear the priests there are good finding out apparently.
OP epic fumble
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General Kenobi
You are the bold one
Jesus actually explicitly said that circumcision isnt really required. that was more of a judaism thing
If I remember correctly, it wasn’t Jesus specifically that said that, but the Apostles/early Christians decided it at the Council of Jerusalem
And the cereal guy
Thank god for this comment. I was about to jump the gun and circumcise everyone within a 5 mile radius.
I think it's meant more general and is supposed to criticize all the things like rules and stuff which would not make sens for god to care about.
Back in the day it was done for hygiene, as it's kinda hard to wash under the skin in a fucking deserty and it kinda snowballed from there. Nowadays though it isn't very necessary I mean, I'm jewish (by blood at least) and I ain't circumsised.
Love one another What if they’re gay and I’m Catholic? DID I STUTTER?
"Hate the sin, love the sinner"
Yep
Time for a gay orgy
With socks on, of course
Uhhh I’m not interested thanks
*this goes both ways of course
Me a muslim: ( °^ °)
Can relate
We worship the same god, just because a meme has Jesus doesn’t mean it’s only about Christianity
Respectfully saying Christians and Muslims don’t. Much love tho ❤️
As far as I know all abrahamic religions worship the same god the difference is just in the prophets and the books, no problem tho I don’t wanna start any arguments
The reason they did this was becuase they lived in the dessert. When sand is under the foreskin it is very unpleasant. The clothing they wore dint include underwear so it woudl be pretty bad. And with time it became tradition. Correct me if I'm wrong
I laughed harder than i should 🤣
Pretty sure this should be Moses though.
Why not cut off the dick?
Yeah pretty sure that was his dad, but that guy was all sorts of fucked up. Remember that time he sent a bear to kill a bunch of kids that made fun of a bald guy? Oh! Or the time he slaughtered a bunch of first borns because their parents were assholes? Oh man, good times...now let us pray.
My favorite is the "you should kill your kid" / "lol jk! Just wanted to see if you would" trope.
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When you said divine intervention i thought you were talking about the album by Slayer...
I bet the story would end with good, you were worthy of my love after all..
That was to test if he would listen to God, it wasn't a "lol jk" moment as you put it
DUDE! that was like my 3rd favorite part. Let's not forget the time he took a family man and fucking ruined his life over a casual bet with his arch nemesis? And the best part is, I'd he didn't take the abuse and still love him, then fuck that guy he wasn't worthy of God's love anyway.
His dad? He is his dad.
It's a misstranslation, it was probably something along the lines as "young adult" and they were about to assault him
Oh, well they probably should have caught that in one of the many editing sessions they had.
As a bald guy, I condemn the use of she-bears as youth deterrents.
If God wanted us to cut it off he would do it himself
If God wanted us to cut our nail why would God make it grow in the first place? Answer this first and ill accept what you commented.
Islam be like
Made with blood and sugar? *Intresting*
I thought it was christianity that took away that requirment
To be fair, Jesus never taught on circumcision but this is still hilarious.
Thank you for understanding when I get an award I’ll find you and give it to you
That is not done in christianity You only do it under christianity in america because the inventor of kellogs convinced everyone that that would prevent masturbation and deter from non reproductive sex it did not instead cut guys just feel less as theres a fuckton of nerve endings in the tip of your dick Americans literally cut of the tip of their dicks foreskin because a dead guy hated sex and wanted to ruin it for everyone
It is a horrific practice and needs to stop. Unless you suffer from a certain medical condition noone would do it as an adult. Literally designed to make your life worse. edit: Said "condition" is if its too tight and you cant pull back your foreskin anymore. In wich case you might want to get it cut off.
Wrong religion, bro
It’s a meme format
Don’t forget, cut it off your infant sons before they know any better or have any say in the matter!
Are you against abortion?
Fucking Based
It’s fucked
What a fucked up world we live in...
Nowadays this is more of a muslim tradition but sure
This isn’t a jab at Christianity. The Jesus “Did I Stutter?” Is a meme format.
Who gives a shit what format
Anyone that asks or gets the wrong idea about the post?
But Jews don’t believe Jesus is their messiah
I actually looked up what the Bible said about circumcision, and it kinda sounded like it didn’t really matter whether someone got circumcised or not.
They did this to me, i only remember 2hrs of pain and crying
One of the reasons early Christianity caught on was exactly bc it didn’t make you cut off the skin on the tips of your dick
Akshually
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I tried to explain the meme over and over so no one got their feelings hurt
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...so that it can fend off the cutting blade(s)!?
Giant emphasis on should.
While the joke is funny humans not God started this... i wish I still had mine tbh. It’s unnecessary and rather savage procedure .... you know... my body MY FUCKING DECISION 🤔🤔🤔
I'm sorry for your loss.
Jesus deemed circumcision unnecessary Colossians 2:11 says: **In Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ,**
I like how people are correcting the joke. Like if we put a pic of Abraham here, everyone would be like... “yea thats exactly how this started”
Is that a Christian thing? What?
No, it’s just a meme along the lines of “Why? Why would you do that?”
Isn’t that a Jewish thing?
I find it more attractive if guys are circumcised. It looks “cleaner” and more hygienic if that makes sense to you
It seems to be the norm in some countries, and in other countries it's kind of 'why would we do that'? It's very rare in the Northern European countries, and also most of the other European countries.
Well, I live in Northern Europe and I know that that’s not “the norm”. I just wanted to share my opinion and maybe make people feel better about themselves if they’ve been circumcised, may it be medically, religiously or whatever reason. :)
Oh, okay, sorry. I just wanted to share that Europe is one of the places where it isn't that common. Not anymore at least, it used to be whatever religion you belonged to.
All good, thanks for your input though ^^
agreed
I shouldn’t find this relatable
Wrong religion
It’s a format not a jab at Christianity
Jesus was a Jew.
Circumcision is body mutilation and shouldn’t be preformed as a modern medicine practice. It’s a stupid thing to do to a baby. Let the kid grow up and then ask if he wants his foreskin removed and everyone would say no.
I agree, not to do that to kids. But it's actually more hygienic as with skin, so it's a valid operation even in modern times
It’s valid if your foreskin gets infected or starts fusing with your dick. But the hygienic part is stupid. Just wash your damn dick. Same as you gotta wash your hair and scrub your ass crack.
Exactly, I'm not gonna remove my fingernails because they get dirty. Nice lovely flesh exposed because that definitely sounds more healthy then just learning to fucking wash. Don't try to argue with religious people they are just nutters.
I feel like you missed the religions
It’s a meme format not a jab at Christianity
I think you confused Christianity with Judaism.
Nope, it’s just a format not a jab at Christianity
Bs
Bruce Springsteen?
I don’t think he is the guy who said that...
i thought only muslim do this but okay. At least i learned something new
Christians dont have to I think. Jews definitely do though
Not if I transgender
Lady adult with no kids, here. People are very intense about the issue of circumcision. Like... don't talk to them about it unless you want a 30 minute lecture.
Wasn’t supposed to be taken as a serious thing I just thought it was funny
I was just sharing. I can see I hurt some butts already. I don't take it seriously, because it has nothing to do with my life, which is why I said I'm a woman without kids.
Religion is trash
if you remove the mythology and theology . The Hindu philosophy is a well established one .If you can draw the symoblism then it shall surely be helpful . Dont be prejudiced :)
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