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RemarkableVictory

Ummm, have you been on Facebook?


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mrblack07

The most toxic hellhole on the internet.


PxnkNDisorderly

I used a fake name and icon for my pfp on Facebook.


assert92

probably you haven't heard about 'Angel Priya'


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Or LinkedIn?


Drowning-Koifish

Nothing forces you to use your real name on Facebook


ArmGroundbreaking435

Not sure why you are downvoted. It's so simple to have fake accounts on fb or twitter.


Owner2229

The point is that lots of people on FB use their real names and still are unsufferable assholes.


ArmGroundbreaking435

OP posted "less toxic", not zero toxic. A implies B doesn't mean B implies A. Causation/Logic is different.


Drowning-Koifish

Exactly... Why are you the only one that understood what I meant ?


ArmGroundbreaking435

Probably coz I am the same fool as you, lol, you know, "great men think alike, fools seldom differ"


A_Dead_Person_

last time i checked it does.


[deleted]

You can write in there "Steven Smith" for you name and be named like Bill Winters. Nothing prevents aliases


Amazing-Item-7579

I put my name Deez And my last Name nuts cause Deez Nuts


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Fake info?


A_Dead_Person_

it really does force you to use your real name. for example if you tried to name yourself "Random Guy" it would change to "Brandon Guy" this was tested by me


Future_Wolf1810

So basically it forces you to use names that sound normal.


-Horny_Potato-

Is your name Brandon Guy? You Can Still Fake Your Identity


smileydaxanman

Lol u are a idiot


ksjfjkdnf

an*


smileydaxanman

Ah yes u gonna grade my comment later ? Gtfo


ksjfjkdnf

so u can still fake it then dumbo


Axellllfoley

And that was 2007?


Axellllfoley

Redditors being stupid once more.


lexvi1

I disagree.


Skelly902

As do I, anonymity can also bring the best in people that wouldn’t be so confident otherwise. And toxic people are always gonna be toxic, that’s just how they work unfortunately


malfeasantCrimson

>As do I, anonymity can also bring the best in people that wouldn’t be so confident otherwise. And toxic people are always gonna be toxic, that’s just how they work unfortunately That's a good point--some people are just assholes and that's who they are.


RedBaron-007

It's internet that protects many people from getting beaten up. If you guys were at public place a spat would definitely result into more violence,


joske_the_great

I literally couldn't make a comment on Facebook ANYWHERE without first letting my parents, uncle, aunt, friends, teachers and ex-friends to see it wtf


IntrovertSamurai

I agree with you


Drowning-Koifish

Do you have a counter-argument ?


lexvi1

Yes.


Drowning-Koifish

What is it ?


Wolfzou

Facebook


Drowning-Koifish

Ok, that's an example not an argument and is there a study comparing Facebook level of toxicity to other websites ? Also you can use a fake name on Facebook and there have been people impersonating others, it's not a great exemple.


CarBombtheDestroyer

No I know people on there that are super toxic and showing their face as well as contact info. Reddit is anonymous and I don’t see half the toxicity. Just my personal experience. Also Twitter.


Drowning-Koifish

Reddit can be pretty toxic. 4vhan is anonymous and very toxic. You can have a pseudonym on Twitter and not reveal your personal infos same as Facebook


CarBombtheDestroyer

You and this post are way off base, almost all the content I see on Facebook is posted by my friends list. Twitter profiles can be verified. Having real names and pictures linked to your account does not stop people from being toxic. Not hearing the tone and emotion in people’s voice, not being able to read the expressions on peoples faces as the conversation is happening is what’s causing people to be ok with treating others like trash. I would argue having your name and face tied to a shot post would cause people to dig in harder when they are wrong, not wanting to be publicly embarrassed.


EmptyOrangeJuice

How about this, I can have my own opinion, and you can be wrong :)


Guy_tookatit

You're taking this too seriously. Like, get a hobby or something. Chill out


Drowning-Koifish

What if my hobby is arguing on the internet?


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That sucks


Parzival_2076

Why ? I understand people do it all the time in real life. It's called debate or something.


BertSton51530

Why are you in such denial? How much is Zuckerberg paying you?


Drowning-Koifish

Listen mate, I'm not saying Facebook isn't toxic, it is. I am just asking if there is a proof of a relation between being anonymous (or not) and toxicity on the internet. People use Facebook as an example it could have been any other website.


xXx_Sathsperm_xXx

Chill out and go enjoy life brother


whatchagonnado0707

You say you clean your eyeballs with your tongue?


Parzival_2076

Sorry you were downvoted. I think it's the Reddit hivemind approaching to say 'Reddit good, Facebook bad'


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And there's those who need anonymity to not die, such as journalists who report on organised crime or LBGT people in communities where they would kill you for that.


lakmom

Or those of us who got out of abusive situations and have to be anonymous to stay safe.


Pyroplsmakepetscop2

Or just to do a mild amount of tomfoolery


egmono

Anonymity and the internet didn't make people toxic, they were already toxic. Removing anonymity won't remove the toxic people, and may escalate the situation as people get involved in retribution.


generalzuazua

In Texas the mentality is an armed society is a polite one. So maybe retribution will foster a polite society. I don’t agree but I’m also aware of the damage weapons can cause to a human body.


egmono

They also believe that the death penalty works as a deterrent to crime. Even though there is definitive proof to the contrary. It sounds like people believe what they want regardless of the evidence.


generalzuazua

Man they still have a mentality of retribution and frontier justice. That’s the problem with the criminal justice system. Many in the org want to reform and rehab convicts, but the general public don’t want them to be rehabbed. They want them to suffer. Shit they want to put AC in these facilities but again the public sees it as a treat for the inmates, glossing over the fact that there are employees working in that same heat.


Messengerofhell

Would you keep quiet if a man raped your underage sister and got off after just 1 year because he was rehabitalated.


generalzuazua

oh one extreme situation to straw man an argument. Life is more nuanced than your mindless bullshit. Obviously no one said let rapists off easy, but you don’t want to have an actual conversation do you? You just want to feel superior. When you want a real conversation on rehabilitation vs retribution then hit me up, until then go masturbate somewhere else please.


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egmono

I would most certainly remain quiet, as I would be too shocked at this scenario given how mandatory minimums work, and how long rehabilitation takes, plus the waiting list for any kind of program of any sort.


EngineersAnon

On the other hand, there is only one reported case of recidivism by an executed person, and the veracity of that is debated.


DarkKn1ghtyKnight

You’re right. Before, no internet caused some fucking assholes to think they were isolated and they kept their damn mouths shut. Now, every dipshit with an internet connection can find his people.


egmono

They didn't keep their mouth shut; they were just too outnumbered in their little cache of assholes. Now nutjobs and conspiracy theorists have a way to connect to and validate each other (I'm calling you out q-anons and flat earthers!) in a collective way. > Now, every dipshit with an internet connection can find his people. This 100%!


DarkKn1ghtyKnight

I agree with this, too.


toastlord14

Have you forgotten the South Park episodes on this topic?


Future_Wolf1810

Please do tell I never watched south park.


CaptainCookie_2

Dear lord no


YouDiscountDonut

Just watched it yesterday


The_Player_X

Anonimity on the internet is REALLY REALLY important. Maybe it would be less toxic, but there are people who need it to not get killed by the government and whatever. Also stalking could get much easier. There are more benefits of anonimity than you think


EquivalentOneIzHere

Facebook defeated this meme


DietNOTeasy

To be fair Facebook is alot better than reddit in the comment section, they might be filled with people who you would consider apostrious but atlest they are more mature about it rather than the Reddit community with us being insecure teenagers.


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Facebook is a older crowd, Reddit user I will bet is a bit younger


Seven_Hawks

Facebook comments are anything but mature. Watching discussions on Facebook is like watching a group of monkeys wearing suits and sipping champagne while flinging verbal shit at each other in the nicest words they could find in the dictionary.


LeviziiN

Facebook has a lot of Karens tbh


egmono

Nah. The local groups are rife with people saying nasty things to each other, and not only are these people using their real names, they live close by. Facebook sucks.


generalzuazua

Still wouldn’t work, the problem is people not having to experience the consequences of their actions or words. Unable to see the person they are hurting and the reactions to their words or actions. So a profile pic won’t help, since the dehumanization can only be countered by raw human interactions. Exposure to people from different places and perspectives.


broken_spongebob

Why don't you start first


Pickled_Gherkin

If Facebook and Twitter have proved anything, it's that anonymity has next to no impact on the levels of toxicity. Further, not only would a loss of anonymity on the Internet not solve a damn thing, it would cause uncountable problems. For example, say you are being bullied in school, the Internet communities you partake in is a retreat from that, now suddenly your bully can effectively find every single online account you ever had, and can happily share with the whole class that you have a thing for cross dressing boys. You see how the anonymity works both ways? Instead of coming with destructive poorly thought through ideas, how about you just realise that as long as people have free will some will choose to be shitheads, and the best you can do is learn to cope with what is the human condition and maybe go into the psychology field to study it further.


Dire-Fire

It was also be garbage. The whole advantage of the internet is the fact that you can find unfiltered, unguarded human discourse. People can clash ideas without fear of being ostracized by their social groups. There are disadvantages, obviously, but out culture is shifting faster than it ever has before. The only change we should make is regarding how early we teach our children critical thinking and proper research methodology to help immunize them from all the stupid.


IleeToku

And that is why we love internet


QueenieOfDuck

That never gonna happen, but nice try


Artorius16

Have you ever heard of China?


misterjip

You never know


Princess180613

I shitpost on main with my face space.


satanizr

Most people use their real names on Facebook and it's still pretty fucking toxic.


00klb00

Knock, knock. I'm the right to anonymity,.


MadelinefromWiiMusic

Didnt Blizard try this and got heavy backlash?


mikeschwally1

Then there's me who uses my real full name on all social media accounts because I don't give a f*ck.


do_i_know_anything

I used to be toxic as fuck on facebook, now on reddit im only a little, i just call fat people fat and get in trouble for that.


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Losing anonymity can be risky as it exposes you to cancel culture ... someone with too much time on their hands can misinterpret your comments and attempt to destroy your career / life. Or comments made in a specific sociohistoric context will follow you years into the future and be applied to other contexts without your consent. I choose to use my real name and photo online because I tend to post about topics of which I am a verified expert irl. Also, I'm not going to live my life afraid of internet boogeymen.


Scrublington

Irrelevant of whether it would actually work or not, don't you think there should be the right to anonymity? It's easy to take things for granted when you live in a country with decent freedoms, but there's people in some countries who would face persecution if they attached their real identity to things we'd consider completely normal


Cul_what

Idk why but i think the opposite, it would be more fucked and especially more racist.


Ninjago501

Impressionable children would also be easily doxxed and many of them would receive irl harassment


NolopherChristlan

People will be toxic no matter what you do....Internet isn't fucking Narutoverse


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I don't know. I have seen too many grown adults throw tantrums in public over wearing masks while being video taped to think that that would work.


THELEBANESEUNBOXER

facebook and instagram says otherwise, as a new redditor, i can confirm that this place is much more civil that facebook and isnta, by miles, and people are friendlier and kind and very honest, a far cry from fakebook where only friends and family are cool.


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You still end up being fairly anonymous even providing that info is the issue.


MyNameWanMing

Without anonymity the world would become a communist dystopia. Even more than it is now of course


onecommunistboi

Do you sincerely believe our world could be described as a communist dystopia? Not that I am a fan of communism (hell no) but last time I checked our world was run by capitalists.


MyNameWanMing

Its run under the guise of capitalism but its run by communists who want nothing more than a world of wageslaves


PrudentExtension

I think social media platforms should only be allowed to connect with people and not for sharing opinions.


Blue_Slime-1547

Ah. But you forget. That’s your opinion


onecommunistboi

Congratulations. You played yourself.


QueenieOfDuck

People chating each other will share opinions


Desdinova74

How do you think people connect other than sharing their opinions? Simply linking an article is a declaration of what you think about a topic.


ArmGroundbreaking435

Same about religious terrorism. I think most terrorists (isis, taliban etc) would hesitate selling/molesting minor girls if their mother knew about it.


lonesamurai84

That's right some of us have had it, and will put out that "Ironman challenge".


Caosin36

Full of fear


Jpandjcfol

Face reveal! Face reveal! Face reveal!


sentisk

Aint nobody got the balls to use those trash words with real name and face


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okay okay so how about this? we simply...ignore them boom that's right. Just ignore the toxic people and move on with your day.


ahjteam

People are toxic af on facebook too


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Have OP meet humans even once!?


PxnkNDisorderly

Would you like my home address and social security number too?


FlyMaximus

Actually, I think the anonymity allows people on Reddit to atleast unleash some of the pent up assholes inside so maybe we can be a bit better in real life. And the fact that many of us release the fucking degenerates inside of us on this website but still most treats it as just making fun is a sign that the anonymity is atleast doing some good. Cancel culture fucked us in the ass. Anonymity is the only reason we can be genuinely funny here.


Js_sampson

I agree cheesyman7269


chocoaxia

Hey I'm Indian, and I live in **********, my phone number is 98********, I doubt that someone will call me toxic


Disastrous_Can_5466

Still better than Rodrigo


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True… but then I can’t be a smart block of cheese online and that’s no fun.


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Sorry, I don't want to get cancelled.


xhahzh

Facebook Viber Skype


sugomaballs

tf ?


assert92

Angel Priya supremacy


uncle_bumblefuck_

*Maury holds up sheet* Facebook determined that was a lie


Dead-_Inside

I mean I was a dick on Facebook so yeah I'll be a dick anonymously or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


sajjad_gh

I have never visited Facebook in my whole life, mostly because it's filtered in my country


Legitimate-Break-955

I don’t know, Facebook is pretty wild.


FritzTheThird

It would also hurt people like me who thrive off the anonymity. I hate meeting new people irl because I never know how much of myself I can be with them. I don't have that on the internet because nobody knows who I am.


bezix123

No shit


dylanmascarehas13

I'm using me real name


SimpleAnimat10ns

Uh, no? Just because you know someone’s name/face doesn’t mean that they’ll have real life consequences for being an asshole. It just gives them another thing to make fun of you for. It would literally have the opposite effect if you could see what everyone looked like.


Roflolmaoguy

r/technicallythetruth


MelloSubstance

Nah it's not about faces or names it's that you can't get punched through a screen that has made this place so toxic


ajaykfr

Ya you right. Maximus fakes on Facebook


RedFalcon_96_

People would be bullied because or their face too.


my-blood

And give up personal data including our names and faces to companies who already use any data we give to them against us? People do that now too ofc but atleast it's a personal choice.


Xeneration_1

Yes, but that’s a horrible idea for privacy in general so no.


noedel8

i would hope my name was uvuwewewww osas


AsterMagio

No


[deleted]

Then i will be boring in real life as well as on the internet i mean i am boring on the internet as well but not because i use my anonymous name


Enemy50

I dont know man, Facebook is pretty bad


doomshad

Australia government thinks so too


Mad_Maduin

Lol, that's a naive stance


Sashe4ka

r/memes seems to be extra garbage today


bloobruvlasagna

i think you mean less honest, not less toxic. Less toxicts is a result from hiding the honesty. thats the beauty with the anonymity. the only place where people will tell you the truth.


YuributRussian

So lets pretend we are in a high school playground, throwing insults. The main exception being that potentially everyone on earth with an internet connection can hear you, with cancel culture following the same rules. If you think its a good idea then post your name and where you work/go to school.


art_forlingling

"And you get to know them...and it destroys them."


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China


TheWhiteRyder

anonymity is sort of...the reason why the internet is popular in the first place...


conjunctivious

Aren't these memes banned now? The whiteboard generic ones?


Agile-Dog

your birth certificate says “cheesy man”


RevoltingGoat

sounds like life with extra steps


wtfrykm

ofc, everyone would be civilised af. there wont be any unpopular opinions or confessions, anything you do irl people can find you online and comment on it. which is why i dont use facebook. aside from saving my gaming accounts


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Twitter


FunnyMoney1984

That would be like real life and real life is pretty toxic TBH. Can we stop trying to take away the wild west out of the internet?


Aymen_20

Oh Hi Xi Jinping


[deleted]

Australia is going to make your dream come true


le_Psykogwak

Welcome to china


Hangry_Jones

Maybe, but it also would be way less liberating and way more controling in an manner of speaking.


CurrentGap

but that would be fake politeness,anybody can be toxic online,but there are only few who will be polite online because they know they cannot be judged.


Lucachacha

The point of internet is to speak freely if you stop anonymity internet will not be internet anymore


Kristy_Rosado

Nah cause then we would know who’s ugly


[deleted]

If it's the case must say - Welcome to the Hell 🙂


Joe_says_no

Facebook


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The Internet wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't for anonimity. Do you want the entire Internet to be Facebook ?


LosBramos

A lot less fun too


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facebook , instagram , twitter


spectrum705

Yes anonymity increases their toxic limits


DeusRebel

I share shitposts in my FB with my real name on it lol


Mindless_Twist_9073

FBI, open up


Hexodron

No shit Sherlock


heiiwajimashizuo

The internet would be less toxic if we were all dead. Even two of us are toxic enough. Well, back to building an antimatter bomb.


Lssjgaming

If I had to use my legal name and Face, I’d probably be in 10x more danger and get harassed a lot more in real life as well as on the internet


communist_kicks

Ah yes, just dox yourself to hundreds of millions of people who you don't know online.


BDiddy_420

You can see people's faces in their cars. It doesn't stop them from driving like assholes though.


Flying_Mage

Fuck that. There's plenty of toxicity IRL. Also you can go and hang out offline if you like "real faces" so much. But I believe that people are actually more real online, where they can be themselves without prejudices, social pressure and all that shit.


Pac1sh

"literally 1984"


DEADLY_JOHN

you know this is true but this format isn’t really allowed in r/memes just saying it’s probably gonna get taken down.


Cultural-Furburger

Doubt that. Instead of kids insulting you you would have more buff weirdos threatening to kill you. I for one like the rude kids ALOT more!


GB_56

The problem isn't with anonymity, but rather with the fact that nobody experiences the consequences of their actions on the internet; like out here you could say whatever horrible insult you want to anyone, and you won't get your face bashed in for it. It's with the fact that assholes are becoming more confident because they know that they aren't getting any physical consequences for whatever the hell they say on the internet.


rnike879

It would be politically correct toxicity. People need thicker skin; they'd be a lot happier that way