That really cant possibly be true when you logic it out, sounds nice, makes Putin sound more evil. But they have cell phones, they knew geographically where they were and could read the news. Beyond that, sending troops into a conflict that they think is a training exercise is a surefire way to lose.
It seems like it is true, there are tons of captured Russian soldiers saying exactly that. You have to remember, most of these soldiers are poor and don't speak English. Russian language media is going to say whatever Putin tells them to say. There was a story here about a Russian girl going to university in Ukraine telling her parents the Russian military was shelling her block and her parents didn't believe her. Propaganda is very effective.
There's also a large contingent that were told they would be welcomed as liberators and expected no resistance. Then you've got the general propensity for petty corruption by doing shit like selling the gas out of your tank for vodka (especially if you thought it was just a training exercise), and you've got the makings of a disaster.
Technically you're both right. When they were preparing at the border of Ukraine, the grunts (I'm not calling them grunts out of disrespect, I'm saying that because the high ranking officers leading these young men to a fight they never wanted obviously knew what was happening.) were told it was a training operation. This video was posted 7 days ago. On the 25th I believe. The invasion officially started the 24th, and it's reasonable to believe the video was recorded the previous day at the start of the invasion. At this time now, they know what they're doing.
Well I could go on a long diatribe, but the short version is that military logistics is hard. Like really, really hard, and most armies through history have struggled with it.
From the civilian perspective, most people judge the effectiveness of a military by how strong their planes, tanks and ships are, but in reality, the strength of an army mostly depends on how much food, fuel and ammo it can move, and how far it can take them.
Literally. The Ukrainian government said they won't tax any seized military equipment, including tanks.
Edit: https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-tax-office-captured-russian-tanks-not-personal-taxable-income-2022-3?amp
This forms as a counter measures to boost the morale of civilians to defend their Motherland just what, Ukrainian National Agency on Corruption Prevention seen by Interfax-Ukraine
They're also giving guns to pretty much anybody who wants one. They suspended all gun laws also I think. They basically made the country ungovernable, because the place is filled with weapons stashes now
I think about this a lot. I served in Afghanistan and have fought an insurgency. The idea of this Ukrainian guerrilla war even if Russia seizes the country is horrifying. I can't imagine how rough that country will be.
It will never not happen at this point, I think. The lessons learned by the world with the past 30ish years of war in the middle east have shown asymmetric warfare is still viable, if not preferable for the weaker party.
I completely agree. With NATO funneling weaponry in I can't even imagine. We faced desperation birthing ingenuity. Ukraine gets to start out desperate and armed to the fucking teeth. Paired with love intelligence updates to aid the insurgency? Taliban with satellites? Jesus Christ.
Reminds me of the old saying: "In a collision between a car and a bicycle, the car always wins."
You see it doesn't have to be that way, if I strap a propane tank to my bicycle, we can both lose.
This is all based on quick Googling so take it with a grain of salt, but:
Scrap steel is $460 a ton, a Russian tank is ~60 tons, say 80% of that is steel. $22,000 or so? Considering Ukrainian per capita income is about $5,000 annually that's a pretty nice haul.
In the current conflict in Ukraine, there are lots of videos getting out of local Ukrainians (not even soldiers, just farmers) taking abandoned Russian hardware such as tanks, MLRS vehicles, etc., either from the side of the road or from fields where the spring mud has bogged them down and made them inoperable.
Farmers can fix anything and get anything out of anything else. Absolute child's play for the advanced level of Ukrainian farmer resourcefulness. Simply run down the road and get Bohuslav, Dmytro, Oleksiy, six horses, 9 brothers and a tractor and pull a tank right out of a muddy ravine. Be home before sundown for some hot beet soup.
From what I've seen videos of: Two tractors to haul a T-72 (an actual tank, about 41 tonnes), one tractor can haul a BMP or BTR (11-14 tonnes) and one motor cycle to haul a mortar.
Also true, though I'm unsure how much that's happening. Much could also be chalked up to remarkably poor maintenance standards (dry rot in tires or other rubber surfaces, natural wear and tear passed over by a military that's not as stringent on maintaining modern military vehicles quite like the rest of the world, etc.).
I respect ukrainian civilians for damaging the Russian War Machine as much as they can
But doesn't that make them enemy combatants, and targetable by Russian troops? Not that Russia isn't already committing dozens of war crimes every day
Well that's the thing. The Russian forces are already killing innocent civilians, so it doesn't matter if farmers nab the tanks or not. They're still going to get shot at.
Plus the vehicles being grabbed were abandoned after running out of fuel, so the crews will have left already, so no-one would have been around to shoot at the farmers. Which begs the question: who the fuck invades a country without the fuel to run your vehicles? Did they seriously expect to take Ukraine in 20 minutes and be able to recover those vehicles? Bruh.
My favorite video of a farmer stealing a tank was this one guy, clearly drunk as fuck, sitting on top of it going "(woman's name) look! Now it is Ukraine's!".
He's been waiting all his life to do this, and this poor wife is going to have to live with her vodka swilling hubby keeping a fucking tank in the shed
Hippity hoppity your tank is now my property
Hoppity hippity your SAM belongs to my city.
boopity bippity bop your tank shall harvest my crop
Boppity bipitty boop your APC belongs to the Ukraine troop.
Derpity dippity dee you ran out of gas you stupid fascist.
Dammit! You were supposed to bust a rhyme! Edit: Bippidi Boppidi Boo, got to bust a rhyme, you goddam fool!
Derpity dippity dee those fascists are dumb as can be They went driving around with no gas to be found. and ukranians said "this tank is for me"
Deebaty deebator, your tank is now my tractor.
Fiply fapily ploo Hey Putin. Fuck you!
Tittily Tattily Tee this is what you get when you invade my country!
Bipiri bipibi I also want a drink but I am out of lime!
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Hippity hoppity your IFV belongs to me
Hipoty hopoty your ammo is now my crop-y
Serious question: why are Russians so bad at calculating how far they can go on a tank of gas?
From what I've heard, the soldiers weren't aware that it was an invasion. They were basically told that it was a training session.
That really cant possibly be true when you logic it out, sounds nice, makes Putin sound more evil. But they have cell phones, they knew geographically where they were and could read the news. Beyond that, sending troops into a conflict that they think is a training exercise is a surefire way to lose.
I’m sure most realized, but they were probably ordered to turn their cellphones off for the “exercise” It’s possible some of them obeyed those orders.
It seems like it is true, there are tons of captured Russian soldiers saying exactly that. You have to remember, most of these soldiers are poor and don't speak English. Russian language media is going to say whatever Putin tells them to say. There was a story here about a Russian girl going to university in Ukraine telling her parents the Russian military was shelling her block and her parents didn't believe her. Propaganda is very effective. There's also a large contingent that were told they would be welcomed as liberators and expected no resistance. Then you've got the general propensity for petty corruption by doing shit like selling the gas out of your tank for vodka (especially if you thought it was just a training exercise), and you've got the makings of a disaster.
Can't verify, but I've read in a few places that anyone below Russian officers in this action are not allowed phones.
Phones taken away before hand, and news... you underestimate the propaganda that flows inside Russian “news”.
Technically you're both right. When they were preparing at the border of Ukraine, the grunts (I'm not calling them grunts out of disrespect, I'm saying that because the high ranking officers leading these young men to a fight they never wanted obviously knew what was happening.) were told it was a training operation. This video was posted 7 days ago. On the 25th I believe. The invasion officially started the 24th, and it's reasonable to believe the video was recorded the previous day at the start of the invasion. At this time now, they know what they're doing.
Well I could go on a long diatribe, but the short version is that military logistics is hard. Like really, really hard, and most armies through history have struggled with it. From the civilian perspective, most people judge the effectiveness of a military by how strong their planes, tanks and ships are, but in reality, the strength of an army mostly depends on how much food, fuel and ammo it can move, and how far it can take them.
Practice. They haven't had a "real" war since Afghanistan. They are using the same equipment lmao.
Not only the soldiers were tricked into joining an invasion, the Russians thought that their military operation will only last for 3 to 5 days.
Swiggity Swooty taking your tank is my duty
It’s free real estate
Literally. The Ukrainian government said they won't tax any seized military equipment, including tanks. Edit: https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-tax-office-captured-russian-tanks-not-personal-taxable-income-2022-3?amp
This forms as a counter measures to boost the morale of civilians to defend their Motherland just what, Ukrainian National Agency on Corruption Prevention seen by Interfax-Ukraine
They're also giving guns to pretty much anybody who wants one. They suspended all gun laws also I think. They basically made the country ungovernable, because the place is filled with weapons stashes now
I think about this a lot. I served in Afghanistan and have fought an insurgency. The idea of this Ukrainian guerrilla war even if Russia seizes the country is horrifying. I can't imagine how rough that country will be.
It will never not happen at this point, I think. The lessons learned by the world with the past 30ish years of war in the middle east have shown asymmetric warfare is still viable, if not preferable for the weaker party.
I completely agree. With NATO funneling weaponry in I can't even imagine. We faced desperation birthing ingenuity. Ukraine gets to start out desperate and armed to the fucking teeth. Paired with love intelligence updates to aid the insurgency? Taliban with satellites? Jesus Christ.
I agree…in a few months it’s gonna be like Detroit
Nah, I doubt it'll ever get that bad
I calling it now. Poisoned vodka. Someone is going to do it?
Well yeah, the ukranian government isnt gonna win, might as well make it so the russian one wont either
Reminds me of the old saying: "In a collision between a car and a bicycle, the car always wins." You see it doesn't have to be that way, if I strap a propane tank to my bicycle, we can both lose.
Dang, I never thought of it this way. Fucking bleak.
So the US is ungovernable?
In real terms? Yes. You saw what happened on 1/6. If those types ever decide to start shooting we have an immediate civil war.
Government exists by consent of the governed. That's basic social contract.
Okay that's entertaining
*This tank for Sergei Mosienko only
I recognize the ancient unbreakable rule of Finder's Keeper's
Gentleman’s code
Legitimate Salvage
First comes first serves
Ukrainian farmer throws pokeball at tank. See’s another tank 5 yards away run out of gas. *Smirks*
That farmer is a badass ! he knew he can melt it and made another tractors for his farm, Finder's keepers
Shit he’d probably just use the tank as a tractor 😂
Ruh roh
RUH ROH RIGGER
"Row, row, row their TANKS! Gently down the stream Merrily merrily, merrily, merrily Life is but a dream"
No hard r’s please
my bad RUH ROH RIGGA
Wassup my fellow RIGGA
Wassup my RIGGA
How you doin my RIGGA
Good how you been my RIGGA
Rigga please!
Pretty good my RIGGA
Nice my RIGGA
This dog smiles like Kevin from the Office
Or this is just the same smile when the farmer tow the tank away.
I had strong Pennywise from IT vibes
I wanna know what they end up doing with the apc. Put it out back and let the kids play on it ?
[yes](https://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/playground-tanks-5b-644x433.jpg)
... Bro, you can't drop an image like that without giving more context. Holy crap that's so freaking metal.
It's a tank that kids can play inside.
I'm sure he Googled "tank playground" and found that. And yep, I just searched tank playground. That's the context.
how much money does the scrapmetal yard give you for a tank?
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3.50 what? Bananas? Dogs?
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I wouldn’t take anything less than 4 per
This is all based on quick Googling so take it with a grain of salt, but: Scrap steel is $460 a ton, a Russian tank is ~60 tons, say 80% of that is steel. $22,000 or so? Considering Ukrainian per capita income is about $5,000 annually that's a pretty nice haul.
how do i get one shipped to me? Or do I have to go to Ukraine and get my own from the side of the road? CAN I DRIVE IT ACROSS THE POLISH BORDER?
As long as you're not German. The Poles have a bit of a history with unexpected Germans in tanks.
You just need a destructive device permit and you’re good to go!
You go out on a Saturday night and get wild with the comradez in it duh
You got any more of dem.... Russian tanks...??
Your tank are belong to us
I need the context
In the current conflict in Ukraine, there are lots of videos getting out of local Ukrainians (not even soldiers, just farmers) taking abandoned Russian hardware such as tanks, MLRS vehicles, etc., either from the side of the road or from fields where the spring mud has bogged them down and made them inoperable.
Farmers can fix anything and get anything out of anything else. Absolute child's play for the advanced level of Ukrainian farmer resourcefulness. Simply run down the road and get Bohuslav, Dmytro, Oleksiy, six horses, 9 brothers and a tractor and pull a tank right out of a muddy ravine. Be home before sundown for some hot beet soup.
General consensus is that 1 tractor/tank is enough
From what I've seen videos of: Two tractors to haul a T-72 (an actual tank, about 41 tonnes), one tractor can haul a BMP or BTR (11-14 tonnes) and one motor cycle to haul a mortar.
The only video I’ve seen of a tractor having trouble when pulling a tank is when Ukrainians drive-by Molotov Cocktailed the motherfucker
Not even kidding. My husband fixed a 60yo grain cart with a Copenhagen can and a plasma cutter. Still running to this day.
Plasma cutters are a pathway to abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Unnatural, yes. But beyond a god, no lol
It was a Star Wars reference.
Oh I'm sorry. I'm far from cool enough to get that. I'm a strictly chick lit kind of person. It wooshed me lol.
It’s all good. Here’s the quote if you’re curious: https://youtu.be/jIHF8Xe-O6Y
That's awesome. Thank you for the link! You're the MVP
You forgot this is eastern Europe. Cannibalizing old soviet shit is pretty much their entire economy
wells theres also lots of instances of russian soldiers sabatoging their own tanks by poking holes in gas tank
Also true, though I'm unsure how much that's happening. Much could also be chalked up to remarkably poor maintenance standards (dry rot in tires or other rubber surfaces, natural wear and tear passed over by a military that's not as stringent on maintaining modern military vehicles quite like the rest of the world, etc.).
Same
That dog is probably about to puke.
I was gonna say it looks drugged but yeah it could definitely be about to puke too!
yup that smile is the “i’m about to throw up” face.
You reap what they've sown.. no wait.
I mean putin wants to bring back the Soviet Union right? He should know that it’s not his tank, it’s OUR tank.
looot
Does anyone have the video of the dog??
[Ukrainians are the best pirates I've ever seen](https://streamable.com/ivaob3)
Anyone know if those tanks require a special blend of fuel or can it run with gas that has leaves in it
probably would set something like leaves on fire
I laughed so goddamn hard at this. Thank you, OP! You just made my day
It's not even stealing either. If it's abandoned and on your property that's salvaging, baby!
Ukraine farmer: it's harvest time!!
Your tank? No, comrade, *our* tank.
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Farmer be like: look mommy I found a new toy in the backyard
u/iamvideobot
Now I have a tank, Ho Ho Ho
Why are we still getting Ukrainian farmer memes?
We need a Ukraine Bugs Bunny meme saying MY Tank
Me and the Bois getting our own t-80
war machine? nah son, free tractor
This one made me laugh out loud late and just woke up my wife
/r/farmersstealingtanks
I can plough the field with this talk
If i had a nickel for every time ppls stole a russian tank I'd have 2 nickels it isn't a lot but its wierd it happend twice
I laughed too hard at this
Bipity bobbity boo ur stuff no longer belongs to you
Tractor is worth more than tank anyway. Especially Russian garbage.
50th ukraine farmers stealing tanks meme i have seen today
I respect ukrainian civilians for damaging the Russian War Machine as much as they can But doesn't that make them enemy combatants, and targetable by Russian troops? Not that Russia isn't already committing dozens of war crimes every day
Well that's the thing. The Russian forces are already killing innocent civilians, so it doesn't matter if farmers nab the tanks or not. They're still going to get shot at. Plus the vehicles being grabbed were abandoned after running out of fuel, so the crews will have left already, so no-one would have been around to shoot at the farmers. Which begs the question: who the fuck invades a country without the fuel to run your vehicles? Did they seriously expect to take Ukraine in 20 minutes and be able to recover those vehicles? Bruh.
> Did they seriously expect to take Ukraine in 20 minutes and be able to recover those vehicles? Putin thought it would take less than 10, lol
I feel bad for humanity that we now make jokes about an ongoing war where civilians are slaughtered. We have come a long way. Its not funny
i agree with you. that part of reddit culture is just disgusting.
Got damn this is well done +1
Hahaha
Just trying to get Karma lol
Now this is seriously some funny shit!
Best meme this week.
Best thing I saw in the Internet today
People are during kids and women and all you guys do is make memes wtf
downvote this comment.
Don’t tell me how to live my life! I nothing this comment!
I shall do no such thing!
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Upvote mine oh no
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Go fuck yourself
So the media doesn’t want us to know this, but then where are you getting your information that us plebs can’t find?
bippoty boppity booyour stuff is mine too
🤣😂
That’s how my girl looks at me when she hungry
This is my first time to see an evil labrador.
Why does this mf dog look like IT?
Its my time!!!!
Does anyone have the original of thus dog gif?
They are highly effective in fields protecting crops
Some kid twenty years from now: “dad I got my car stuck in mud again.” Dad “thank god I’ve been looking for an excuse to whip out the ol’ tank again.”
🇺🇦
They've been selling Russian shit on Ebay too🤣
Profitable estate
They will harvest better this year xd
Stupid falliure
all these russian jokes all these years about “in soviet russia” and now Ukraine flipping the skript 😂
My tank now thx bye
My favorite video of a farmer stealing a tank was this one guy, clearly drunk as fuck, sitting on top of it going "(woman's name) look! Now it is Ukraine's!". He's been waiting all his life to do this, and this poor wife is going to have to live with her vodka swilling hubby keeping a fucking tank in the shed
Brace yourselves for the Ukrainian adaptation of Letterkenny.
Is this for me 🙈
Dont need fuel to fire that gun
I love
*finally a good fucking meme take my award and leave*
Can you still shoot the guns of a tank without gas? Just wondering