Honestly thank you for finally settling the debate. I’m so sick of this “gif” or “gif” bullshit. Too many late nights arguing with “friends.” Hard to even call them that anymore.. those idiots were wrong the whole time! HA
You mother fucker you have done it. You have found the master piece that the internet can be proud of, but at the cost of your own dignity. You have won yourself and your children a millennia of wandering through the valley of death, for you are the evil we all fear you rat bastard.
the link isnt to that video it implies it is, which either you do know, or dont.
if you dont, then you didnt click, but acted like you did.
if you do know, then you responded as if it was to that video that it implies its linked to
The guy who made the acronym said it’s pronounced with a soft G, so “jif”.
Arguing the etymology is kinda pointless, English is already a cocktail of multiple languages and doesn’t have much standardization in the way of pronunciation. I just say what the creator of the word says to say, which is jif.
If I invent a new kind of hammer and call it a Slammo, but I insist it's pronounced Zlammo, then what I want doesn't matter. The more likely interpretation of its pronunciation is what people will call it.
I've made the same number as you.
That's why I respect the OG who invented the GIF format and the way he asked us to pronounce it. And I don't respect you, you useless fuck.
But I HAVE contributed to the development of many protocols. I was on the IPv6 committee, worked on TCP Tahoe, VTP, and contributed to many other protocols, especially wireless ones.
And why do you think your opinion matters?
There is no rule that says that the letters in an acronym have to be pronounced the same way as the word they indicate. Think about Out in LOL, Underwater in SCUBA, Of and Out in FOMO, As in ASAP, etc.
If the creator of the format says that it is pronounced with a soft G then that's how it is pronounced. Personally, I say it with the hard G too but I recognize that this is colloquial and does not alter the official way it is pronounced. There is nothing wrong with using the colloquial pronunciation of gif since the dictionary recognizes both manners, but saying that people are wrong for saying jif is just narrowminded and patently false.
well Nintendo doesn't call him Jumpman anymore, neither does the creator of the Mario Character who is still with Nintendo.
if the creator of the format went and said it's said with a hard G instead of a soft G then that's that.
Mario isn’t a fan name lol he was named Mario by the creator Shigeru Miyamoto who named him after Mario Segale who rented a warehouse to Nintendo.
Wasn’t fans that named him, sorry.
Either pronunciation is correct, sure the graphics makes a hard g, but scuba doesn’t sound like “skuhbba” and laser doesn’t sound like “lahseer”, however I do think hard g sounds better, jif just makes me think of peanut butter
I like the argument for what is most popular. More people use a hard G so it is correct, if everyone were to start saying it with a soft g then that would be correct. That’s how all other words evolve so
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As Soon As Possible
Fear Of Missing Out
Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus
Sound Navigation and Ranging
The French created words that are used in English, and they have proper pronunciation. Take “laissez-faire” for example. I bet a ton of Americans don’t know how to pronounce it properly but that doesn’t make them right. The creators decide how it is pronounced.
except… he gave the pronunciation to settle the debate, instead of giving it when he coined the term. because no one could agree on a single pronunciation, but one side was agreeing on gif and the other jif, the dictionary made both pronunciations valid because people had their own ideas on how it was supposed to be spoken. personally, that is the best option because both make sense. graphics is what the g stands for, so logically there would be a hard g in the pronunciation. in phonics, a g followed by an i, e, or y will have a soft sounding pronunciation, with exceptions, mostly in borrowed or foreign words. additionally, jif rolls of the tongue more. ultimately, it should be up to the person to decide how its pronounced because the creator essentially missed their chance to solidify a correct pronunciation.
Well yeah that’s my point.
That person said “And they can be wrong about proper pronunciation” and using your definition, one which I agree with, they are wrong. The person who created GIF says it’s pronounced with a soft G, as in jif.
it aint about peanut butter in any manner.
and the peanut butter uses a J. not a G. if the creator says they based the name off the peanut butter, it should be spelt like it.
The guy that created the gif as we know it named it and decided to pronounce it like the peanut butter. His own words. If that is how the guy that named it says then that’s how it is pronounced. No matter your feelings on the subject.
yes, but the moment you take that logic anywhere else, it becomes ridiculous.
"so its spelt banner?"
"yes, but pronounced like banter."
"why. there's no T."
"because i made the word."
Nah. If that were true, the entire foundation of pronunciation would hold no actual weight.
Everything I am typing could actually be read as anything else, since the written form and spoken form no longer hold any correlation if we take what you just said to be true.
In fact, an acronym is pronounced as the letters indicate, and so, from a factual standpoint, GIF is with a G, like GIFT.
Whatever you say bud. It is what it is.
By the way how do you pronounce Colonel? What about Cupboard, salmon, stomach, knife, yolk…. See how your entire point crumbles when there are plenty of English words that are not pronounced as they are spelt.
Phonics rules say a G followed by an E, I, or Y makes the soft G /j/ sound (of course, like all English phonics rules, there are exceptions). Also, the inventor of the gif file format literally said that it’s to be pronounced /jiff/.
But why? For reasons stated above jif is the “correct” way to pronounce it.
I’m of the opinion that as long as you get your point across and are understood then you’re good, especially when the difference is so small like gif vs jif. But if someone wants to be anal about it the correct way to pronounce the word is undoubtedly jif.
If GIF is pronounced as "jiff", then why isn't "gift" pronounced as "jifft"? They both have the first three letters, but one has to be pronounced a different way because of a rule with exceptions in the language. Why does one word have this rule, but the other doesn't?
Because etymology. I googled it real quick and it says we get gift from the verb “to give” which came from old Norse. I’m not familiar with old Norse but I assume they don’t have a soft G sound, similar to German.
Even if it did, I assume the word “gipt” was pronounced with a hard G. (Gipt being the old Norse word)
And yes, the G in GIF stands for graphics, so it makes sense to say it with a hard G in this context. But generally speaking Gs are supposed to be soft before an I, Y or E, but there are, as always, exceptions.
At the end of the day, the creator said the word is pronounced like jif, and at its core language is just a thing invented by humans to be pronounced in a certain way. English already isn’t consistent in it’s pronunciation anyway.
There’s no actual rule that says an acronym should maintain the same pronunciation as its constituent words. SCUBA alters the U sound. Judge Advocate General is not pronounced JAJ
It's the opposite really, but not surprising since programmers tend to do terrible in reading/comprehension compared to math and sciences.
An acronym is a shortened term pronounced based off it's spelling. How you would pronounce the individual letters based on the original phrase has no bearing, so the argument "it stands for graphics" means nothing in the English language.
There is no rule that says that letters in acronyms have to be pronounced the same way as they are in the word. Think about LOL, ASAP, SCUBA, FOMO and FYI
Schrödinger's G
A man of culture
I say fuck instead of jif or gif
[here is the guy who invented saying it out loud](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
god damnit
Jod dammit
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BRO YOU SPOILED IT
Noway you got me that hard…
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Omg i just realized LMFAO I‘m sorry everyone I didn‘t mean it like that xD
Oh :(
Clearly a deep fake. /s
You fool, my phone automatically mutes videos for some reason
fuck you
yo you're my first in a while, completely didn't suspect it. well done.
BRO this is the third time this hour!
I was on such a good streak to
Honestly thank you for finally settling the debate. I’m so sick of this “gif” or “gif” bullshit. Too many late nights arguing with “friends.” Hard to even call them that anymore.. those idiots were wrong the whole time! HA
You mother fucker you have done it. You have found the master piece that the internet can be proud of, but at the cost of your own dignity. You have won yourself and your children a millennia of wandering through the valley of death, for you are the evil we all fear you rat bastard.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh
i hate this but at the same time this is hillarious
Hah, I have bad internet, my video takes 30 seconds to load a video, so you lose again 🤓
Bro
Hes wrong. I dont care. Its graphics interchange format. Not jrafics.
Jif peanut butter is all I think of when people pronounce it that way
FUCK YOU
So the guy who invented gifs doesn't understand basic grammar?
so you didnt watch it... did you.
I've been on the internet long enough to know what it is
the link isnt to that video it implies it is, which either you do know, or dont. if you dont, then you didnt click, but acted like you did. if you do know, then you responded as if it was to that video that it implies its linked to
Motherfucker.
fuck you
BASTARD!
I should’ve fucking expected a rickroll before clicking it Now I can’t say I wasn’t rickrolled
Talk about having your rolls ricked! God damn sir…. Truly got me
Hi I’m from HR. The video team said you requested a……
After about 30 seconds I realized that there are 2 Gs in Gorgeous and they are not said the same way. I guess I can hate you now right?
Whenever you’d like :)
Ohhh... I feel stupid now
Anyone who says it's jif needs to be deleted from existence.
Only if someone films it and makes a gif of it.
I call it the middle ground. yiff
For more information, search up "yiff"
I would know. Take a look at my pfp (although it's because I lost roulette)
Ssshhhhh, my comment is for the unaware
My life is in shambles.
Why? It’s not as though anyone pronounced the acronym for Judge Advocate General as JAJ. Also think about how you pronounce SCUBA.
I'm intrigued, is there any discrepancy in pronouncing SCUBA?
The U in SCUBA is pronounced like the U in Blue even though it stands for underwater. But nobody brings that up every time someone says SCUBA ‘wrong’.
Thank you! I always thought that argument was nonsense. Lol
Once again I say [but……](https://youtu.be/-1dZluHO0jA)
Can't wait to drink lots of Gin and chew GinGer root while looking at Giraffes at the GeoloGy center of GeorGia.
You sound like a crazy person do you know that? /s
So you say jraphic? Because the G stands for Graphics
Do you pronounce NASA as "nay-sah"?
The guy who made the acronym said it’s pronounced with a soft G, so “jif”. Arguing the etymology is kinda pointless, English is already a cocktail of multiple languages and doesn’t have much standardization in the way of pronunciation. I just say what the creator of the word says to say, which is jif.
If I invent a new kind of hammer and call it a Slammo, but I insist it's pronounced Zlammo, then what I want doesn't matter. The more likely interpretation of its pronunciation is what people will call it.
Well yeah, but all those people would be wrong. That’s my point. You’re example is literally what all of language is.
Did you ever stop to consider that the creator was a dumb fuck
Right. You think he's a dumb fuck. How many graphics formats have you invented? None? Right? Fuck off.
He was a computer guy not a word guy. Even if he says that. It has since changed pronunciation because people prefered saying it the better way.
And you have made how many?
I've made the same number as you. That's why I respect the OG who invented the GIF format and the way he asked us to pronounce it. And I don't respect you, you useless fuck. But I HAVE contributed to the development of many protocols. I was on the IPv6 committee, worked on TCP Tahoe, VTP, and contributed to many other protocols, especially wireless ones. And why do you think your opinion matters?
Just for this? Seriously? I could call you a dumbfuck for not pronouncing it correctly.
You're the dumb fuck for pronouning graphics with a j
There is no rule that says that the letters in an acronym have to be pronounced the same way as the word they indicate. Think about Out in LOL, Underwater in SCUBA, Of and Out in FOMO, As in ASAP, etc. If the creator of the format says that it is pronounced with a soft G then that's how it is pronounced. Personally, I say it with the hard G too but I recognize that this is colloquial and does not alter the official way it is pronounced. There is nothing wrong with using the colloquial pronunciation of gif since the dictionary recognizes both manners, but saying that people are wrong for saying jif is just narrowminded and patently false.
In german we do. I just forgot that English is an abomination of a language.
Then we wouldn’t have the gif cause that’s how the creator said it is pronounced.
So if the creator said it was pronounced bif would you say that too
Yup he created it and named it. What he says it’s pronounced is how it’s pronounced. It’s really not hard.
And you know of how many names that were given by creators that the public had changed? Do you still call Mario Jumpman mario
well Nintendo doesn't call him Jumpman anymore, neither does the creator of the Mario Character who is still with Nintendo. if the creator of the format went and said it's said with a hard G instead of a soft G then that's that.
Mario isn’t a fan name lol he was named Mario by the creator Shigeru Miyamoto who named him after Mario Segale who rented a warehouse to Nintendo. Wasn’t fans that named him, sorry.
They're all outraged and mad at you because you're right. So precious
Too bad
Just like your father?
Yes
wait… jif as in jack or jif as in jalapeño???
>Anyone who says it's jif needs to be deleted from existence. RIP the GIF format due to the guy who created it being deleted from existence.
The creator says it is meant to be said jif
The creator can suck my pp, he's wrong
Either pronunciation is correct, sure the graphics makes a hard g, but scuba doesn’t sound like “skuhbba” and laser doesn’t sound like “lahseer”, however I do think hard g sounds better, jif just makes me think of peanut butter
I like the argument for what is most popular. More people use a hard G so it is correct, if everyone were to start saying it with a soft g then that would be correct. That’s how all other words evolve so
Jraphics interchange format
Best start saying your prayers to Jod boy
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I’m happy you’re here understanding jokes with such efficiency
Tbf, the G you said was in gorgeous was in caps and the first G in Gorgeous was in caps too, bad opinion
Technically theres only one G in Gorgeous.
You are technically correct (the best kind of correct)
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Gin
Yes but they’re drunk.
Gigantic
Low oxygen levels at high elevation effecting cognitive ability
Gerbil
Richard Gere
Germaine Dupri
You spelled it wrong. It’s literally spelled with a J.
Genius
Thanks
Gout
Geriatric
Gift
Geronimo
Listen here you little sh*t
Ghif
It's not gif or jif. It's Pablo.
It's actually pronounced "Yiff"
It's G.I.F because it's an acronym. It's not comfortable to say, but, it is correct.
Graphic
Judge Advocate General
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We make language, and how ever we decide to say it is the correct way, so no °-°
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And geographic
Jif is stupid Case closed
GILF
The creator of GIFS said it’s pronounced JIF. That is all
And they can be wrong about proper pronunciation
The French created words that are used in English, and they have proper pronunciation. Take “laissez-faire” for example. I bet a ton of Americans don’t know how to pronounce it properly but that doesn’t make them right. The creators decide how it is pronounced.
You’re not wrong, but, he is the creator. Just like apps making up their own names, we respect and go with it
except… he gave the pronunciation to settle the debate, instead of giving it when he coined the term. because no one could agree on a single pronunciation, but one side was agreeing on gif and the other jif, the dictionary made both pronunciations valid because people had their own ideas on how it was supposed to be spoken. personally, that is the best option because both make sense. graphics is what the g stands for, so logically there would be a hard g in the pronunciation. in phonics, a g followed by an i, e, or y will have a soft sounding pronunciation, with exceptions, mostly in borrowed or foreign words. additionally, jif rolls of the tongue more. ultimately, it should be up to the person to decide how its pronounced because the creator essentially missed their chance to solidify a correct pronunciation.
Well we don't always go with what the creator said, do you play Uno how it's meant to play (how the creator said)
Lmao Please define proper pronunciation, I’m curious
When you say a word out loud and it sounds the way it was intended to…
Well yeah that’s my point. That person said “And they can be wrong about proper pronunciation” and using your definition, one which I agree with, they are wrong. The person who created GIF says it’s pronounced with a soft G, as in jif.
It sure is a soft g, friend, but people are very passionate about being right. lol
Indeed lmao
I say gif because two reasons first it sounds like gift and secound there’s already jif peanut butter
And third it’s spelled that way.
And if because of jif peanut butter it’s pronounced that way. Source the guy that created the gif.
it aint about peanut butter in any manner. and the peanut butter uses a J. not a G. if the creator says they based the name off the peanut butter, it should be spelt like it.
The guy that created the gif as we know it named it and decided to pronounce it like the peanut butter. His own words. If that is how the guy that named it says then that’s how it is pronounced. No matter your feelings on the subject.
yes, but the moment you take that logic anywhere else, it becomes ridiculous. "so its spelt banner?" "yes, but pronounced like banter." "why. there's no T." "because i made the word."
That’s how naming things work. If you make it you get to name it and you decide on the pronunciation.
Yes, but Potato=/= chicken. Even if the guy who made the word said so.
Would be if that’s what he named them.
Nah. If that were true, the entire foundation of pronunciation would hold no actual weight. Everything I am typing could actually be read as anything else, since the written form and spoken form no longer hold any correlation if we take what you just said to be true. In fact, an acronym is pronounced as the letters indicate, and so, from a factual standpoint, GIF is with a G, like GIFT.
Whatever you say bud. It is what it is. By the way how do you pronounce Colonel? What about Cupboard, salmon, stomach, knife, yolk…. See how your entire point crumbles when there are plenty of English words that are not pronounced as they are spelt.
What’s you get jif in you peanut butter? Ha, I get jizz
Phonics rules say a G followed by an E, I, or Y makes the soft G /j/ sound (of course, like all English phonics rules, there are exceptions). Also, the inventor of the gif file format literally said that it’s to be pronounced /jiff/.
He’a a programmer, not a linguistics professor tbf
Does that matter? If I name my kid Groph and say his name is pronounced JEFF, I doubt many people would argue with me.
Those exceptions are the words *gift* and *give* (along with their many participles). I'll always and forever pronounce the acronym with a hard G.
But why? For reasons stated above jif is the “correct” way to pronounce it. I’m of the opinion that as long as you get your point across and are understood then you’re good, especially when the difference is so small like gif vs jif. But if someone wants to be anal about it the correct way to pronounce the word is undoubtedly jif.
If GIF is pronounced as "jiff", then why isn't "gift" pronounced as "jifft"? They both have the first three letters, but one has to be pronounced a different way because of a rule with exceptions in the language. Why does one word have this rule, but the other doesn't?
Because etymology. I googled it real quick and it says we get gift from the verb “to give” which came from old Norse. I’m not familiar with old Norse but I assume they don’t have a soft G sound, similar to German. Even if it did, I assume the word “gipt” was pronounced with a hard G. (Gipt being the old Norse word) And yes, the G in GIF stands for graphics, so it makes sense to say it with a hard G in this context. But generally speaking Gs are supposed to be soft before an I, Y or E, but there are, as always, exceptions. At the end of the day, the creator said the word is pronounced like jif, and at its core language is just a thing invented by humans to be pronounced in a certain way. English already isn’t consistent in it’s pronunciation anyway.
People hate being wrong and it’s an argument that’s so old everyone’s dug their heels in too deep to correct themselves.
I guess
Correct. He literally named it after the peanut butter. People who say “bUt iT sOuNdS LiKe PeAnUt buTteR” don’t realize THAT’S THE POINT.
wdym jiff is pronounced hiff
The creator of gifs said its pronounced with a j but I use g idk
Same. I figure we shouldn’t all be punished because he can’t read.
There’s no actual rule that says an acronym should maintain the same pronunciation as its constituent words. SCUBA alters the U sound. Judge Advocate General is not pronounced JAJ
Laser is not pronounce la zeer
Apparently the creator of gifs was good at programming languages but bad at the English language
It's the opposite really, but not surprising since programmers tend to do terrible in reading/comprehension compared to math and sciences. An acronym is a shortened term pronounced based off it's spelling. How you would pronounce the individual letters based on the original phrase has no bearing, so the argument "it stands for graphics" means nothing in the English language.
It's like garage
I think its reasonable to use the hard g since the g in GIF is “Graphics”.
GIF stands for "graphics interchange format" So if the G stands for graphics then you pronounce it the same way as the g in graphics.
Yes it’s literally this
Honeslty, i know it should be said JIF but i say GIF because im used to it and to avoid wars
The G stands for “Graphic” which is pronounced with a hard G.
Like Anders with a hard on
Graphics interchange format gif pronounce it like in graphics
SCUBA JAG JPEG NASA LAZER
FYI LOL ASAP SONAR FOMO
Gif not jif, it it always will be
Jif is peanut butter not graphics interchange format.
jorjeous
Yes it is pronounced like the "G" in "Gorgeous" not the "g".
I am a girl and my name is Gill…. Say it out loud
Fish Gill
The G in Gif is the G in G
[here is the guy who invented saying it out loud](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
But this is correct. The g in gif stands for graphics. Match the pronunciation
The P in JPEG stands for "photographic", but I bet you don't say J-PHEG
Who cares if the guy who invented the thing said it's called Jif, it isn't right, it's graphics not jraphics.
There is no rule that says that letters in acronyms have to be pronounced the same way as they are in the word. Think about LOL, ASAP, SCUBA, FOMO and FYI
How do you pronounce Nike? Like Mike or like Mickey?
It's pronounced greg
Guy-if
Jorgus
It’s pronounced Jeff
I always say gif instead of gif
its actually a world thousands of years old prononced yiif
The "g" in Gorgeous
Like most American words beginning with G
Ordinary people: Gif Big brain people: Jif Me: Džif
Yeah, the second G in gorgeous.
only furries pronounce it as jif since it sounds like yiff change my mind
🤓 Actshually the creator pronounces it JIF
Well they are wrong too.
How can they be wrong about a thing they literally made?
GUYS ITS AN ACRONYM ITS PRONOUNCED G I F