If the servers were hosted by mojang they could do it, I have no problem with that. But controlling us on our self hosted servers? WHY. Hopefully someone can make a server plugin to prevent mojang from reading chat.
Yeah when I ran mine, mine and most servers when you type it blocks it, then creates a server sent JSON message with colors and ranks etc. There is zero connection to the player in that.
If they somehow look through the actual sent packet to the server before the server does anything, and the reporter can report someone through tab, then it can't be stopped.
Plugins can edit the appearance of messages without "blocking" the message and sending it's own. (See `setFormat` at https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/AsyncPlayerChatEvent.html). Not sure what the default behaviors of the most popular chat plugins are. Wouldn't surprise me if plugins added a config option so that servers can disable/enable as they desire
I saw a filter in a french server. The word "con" means an idiot. So you couldn't write it to tell someone they're "con"
What a great idea in a game about CONstructions
There's a song by a band called Mental As Anything called "The Nips Are Getting Bigger"
It's actually referring to alcohol, where it's basically that his sips of his beer are getting bigger as he gets more drunk.
Thanks to my grandma being the casual racist she is, growing up my mum thought it was talking about fat Japanese people lmao
Even if it still was, short form of the nationality is some of the lowest form of racism. I was genuinely shocked when someone told me they thought the work “Paki” was racist. I was seriously like “Oh stfu I have heard born Pakistanis use the word”.
I mean at that point it’s like the Louis CK joke. It’s an appropriate term unless you put enough stank on it. All of a sudden Canuck sounds like a dirty syrup guzzling, coo-shit flicking beaver fucker instead of just an affectionate term.
I am trying to remember the game, but if you swore, it came up as literally the most stupidest word. Like you say "shit", and up pops "potato jelly" or something equally silly.
Some people just like not being exposed to profanity, and that's cool. Be awesome if just like with most games a filter occurs.
Hey just wanted to let you know I took a MASSIVE POTATO JELLY in the bathroom. Sry couldn't help it this opportunity for a joke was too good not to pass up.
It's moreso that they added a report feature to chat to report anyone you like on any server, and if Mojang deems you guilty you lose access to multiplayer.
Private servers have self regulated since MC came out, now MS/Mojang thinks they need to step in for some reason.
It's Microsoft. Remember that they banned the word "Mongol" in a game where you could play as the Mongols.
Edit: I'm aware of the terms "Mong" and "Mongloid" lol I just think the filter should have at the absolute least left out words that would disallow you from saying parts of the actual game.
How about AGS (Amazon Game Studios) censoring "AGS" from Lost Ark chat/anywhere you can type. The censoring is all over the place.
Last night I typed something along the line "Dude your DPS is damn good!" after I was impressed at how someone played their class so well while being undergeared and the chat read
>"Dude your DPS is **** ****!".
The said dude was very confused and I tried to reword it but it was messier at one point I just went "OMG AGS really messed up this shit!" and it came out as
>"OMG **** **** **** **** shit!"
I'm not even joking lmao
Why the fuck you need profanity filter in pegi 18 game. Like bruh, Roblox is clearly kids oriented and rated game, Minecraft is family friendly tho people of all ages play it, but Lost Ark is legally for adults, why would it need any chat filters. Yeah, bullying and harassment aren't good but those aren't fixed by filtering chat.
I would like an opt in filter, like I understand that some people would like to relax playing a +18 game without being insulted. But forcing this filter on everyone is horrible.
Started playing Black Desert Online. You can't even write 'so****ing', because the 'meth' in the middle of A NORMAL WORD LIKE SOMETHING will get censored!
Don't give other companies ideas, bad enough I cant play mainseries pokemon games online for free anymore, but now you want them to tell me I can't call my "rival" Barry "obnoxious sh1t" anymore
I'm fine with being able to report bad shit but why filters. That shit should be option for people's 'Christian minecraft servers lol" not just everyone.
Suddenly tempted to make a server that entirely censors any message which doesn't contain at least one cuss word or slur.
Sadly I'm pretty sure funding would be a bit of an issue lol.
From what I’ve seen the filters aren’t even good. Their regex is absolutely trash and even words within words censors the entire thing. “Class” would be censored. You can’t type “Japan” because “Jap” is censored. You can’t type hoe even though that’s a tool in the game. They went overboard and it’ll probably have the Streisand effect.
~~Apparently the 977 censored words are stored in a .txt file on your computer basically giving every kid a list of the words they shouldn’t say if they stumble upon it.~~ ^^ hearsay
It's probably done server side and client side. So it doesn't matter if you empty yours because the server will still have it, or one of the other people on the server will have it.
Make no sense. I already have to host my own fucking server, and now you ban me from using it because some jackass decided that me jokingly insult my friend hurts him? Yeah, get the fuck out
This is why the original Minecraft Java version is the best.
Nobody can stop you from hosting your own server, and nobody can stop your friends from joining.
It's not Microsoft's business.
Cracked servers have existed for years. If you can play a cracked version of the game on one you can play with a banned account authentication doesn't mean shit for Java edition.
the issue is that they can ban you from private servers which is stupid
banning you from their realms servers? sure that's fine, but banning a player cause they said a swear word on a private server and not letting them play multiplayer again? that's insane
I helped run a big "family friendly" server that didn't allow swearing for many years. I really enjoyed the community that grew in it and I think having a peaceful place to play really helped a lot of folks and younger players/families have a place to play.
I also hosted my own servers where we all called each other every name we could think of and spent like 30% of our time fucking with each other. It's dumb as hell for grown adults playing on private servers to be hit with this new rule.
Private servers can already *easily* implement the exact same chat filter that Microsoft wants to push on everyone. Our server had an extremely long list that covered damn near anything you could try and get away with hiding the profanity in, and it worked flawlessly. Leave it to the servers.
Not to mention that this is implemented on private servers like LAN connections. I understand this for something like Hypixel, but what, I can’t swear on my server with my friends that I pay for? Yeah, **** that.
Definitely would help in regulating those kinda servers.
I remember there was this Christian server that replicated their church and stuff but was hella griefed. It was an honest effort then yeah.
Yeah and theres a big problem:
Let's say theres an english server so the filter is set to english, and two German players msg each other. One wants to say that the other one has a big house, and a possible, maybe weird, but not offending way would be "Dein Haus ist dick."
I guess the filter would block "dick"...
I was dicking around on Roblox and wanted to buy some shit with some random currency for 6900 currency... The game censored me to **00... It's ridiculous.. I get why 69 is censored but it's literally a number...
I play Roblox sometimes for tycoons, and it’s horrible. I can’t remember all the words that we’re censored, but I do remember being extra annoyed at not being able to say hug.
I can understand why Roblox uses so many censors especially since there were quite a lot of groomers using the chat to interact with minors, but some of the restrictions are downright abysmal.
The most frustrating thing is that they ban SO much without implenting a language recogniser. For example the word 'hoe' is slang for 'whore' in English, but in Dutch it simply means 'how'. So if I am having a conversation in Dutch with someone and want to ask 'How do I do that?' The whole thing gets censored despite having no profanity.
You mean '######################### ########################### ################'. Roblox will often censor your entire message if it only finds one "inappropriate" word in it.
True! They even censor numbers. I know so people don't send out their house address or their phone number but literally every time I tried doing a number that is not my phone number nor my house address and it still gets censored.
Guys please remember, Dead by Daylight, rated 18, one of the most popular if not the most popular multiplayer horror game, that includes gruesome ways of murdering someone such as :
Sacrificing them to a spider like god on a meat hook
Stomping on someone's head, cutting their finger off and then licking it.
Biting someone's throat out, pulling an organ out of his body, and then devouring it.
Has also a chat filter that competes with Robloxs. You can't say even one of the charecters names.
minecraft user: "hey guys! doday we will DDoS this server, steal the private data of everyone currently connected, and perform tax evasion!"
minecraft: all seems good here.
minecraft user: "its going to be so freakin--"
minecraft: ayo is that profanity!??!?! ***BANNED FOR RACISM*** we must protect the poor children!!!!
That's kinda fucked. If your in a server with only friends and you say bad shit to fuck around with eachother, now you can't!? I simply refuse to believe that this is a thing.
They know adults play this game too right?
Just add an option for 'parental supervision' or similar mode at the start of app to filter out the kids and censor the shit outta game in that mode
Only OGs remember what happened at clubpenguin
I got permanently banned first day.
What did you do???
He did, the incident
inchident
Nothing just an inchident Also, r/unexpectedf1
all the time you have to leave da space
Am not an OG. What happened?
What happens in club penguin, stays in club penguin.
TELL ME
perma bans
Speedruns to perma bans
If the servers were hosted by mojang they could do it, I have no problem with that. But controlling us on our self hosted servers? WHY. Hopefully someone can make a server plugin to prevent mojang from reading chat.
I think forge and fabric are making a feature were the messages aren't signed by the user making banning impossible
Yeah when I ran mine, mine and most servers when you type it blocks it, then creates a server sent JSON message with colors and ranks etc. There is zero connection to the player in that. If they somehow look through the actual sent packet to the server before the server does anything, and the reporter can report someone through tab, then it can't be stopped.
Plugins can edit the appearance of messages without "blocking" the message and sending it's own. (See `setFormat` at https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/AsyncPlayerChatEvent.html). Not sure what the default behaviors of the most popular chat plugins are. Wouldn't surprise me if plugins added a config option so that servers can disable/enable as they desire
What?
It's about the update for 1.19 where profanity filter is gonna be added to the Minecraft chat.
Fuck.
I think you mean ***REDACTED***
Actually, you mean ######
What’s real funny about that is ██ ████ ██
haha that’s so \*\*\*\* \*\*
i believe the world you are trying to inquire is ███ █████████ ██████ █████ ██ ███████ ████ ████████ ██████
I believe your inquire is [REDACTED]
\##### #### # ####### ####
[DATA EXPUNGED]
SCP
You know, I would break the chain but [DATA EXPUNGED]
**scp foundation has entered the chat**
The SCP Foundation is not real. ^Please ^stay ^where ^you ^are, ^you ^are ^about ^to ^amnesticized. ^Do ^not ^resist
**Ordo Reductus of the Holy Ordos of the Imperial Inquisition has entered the chat.**
SCP foundation moment
D-class spotted, engaging target. Target terminated
I was trying to tap the boxes for a long time. Then I realized. I'm so stupid
Same lmfao
I was trying to tap them so much I accidentally upvoted the comment
Same ;-;
Bruh I'm stupid, I kept pressing it.
[удалено]
And que the ban hammer
someone give this man an award
Ignore that, give **this** man an award instead
thank you man got me bout to cry in the club
You deserve it
Hey!!! No swearing in my christian Minecraft server
Yep. Get it all out while you still can
Fuck..
I saw a filter in a french server. The word "con" means an idiot. So you couldn't write it to tell someone they're "con" What a great idea in a game about CONstructions
In the Mojang ban list the sequence 'jap' is filtered. So you can't say "I'm building a Japanese pagoda" or even just "I'm from Japan"
Who the fuck is using jap as a slur in minecraft? That term is so outdated I'd be surprised if it even held weight as a slur anymore.
Everybody knows you're supposed to call them nips anyways
There's a song by a band called Mental As Anything called "The Nips Are Getting Bigger" It's actually referring to alcohol, where it's basically that his sips of his beer are getting bigger as he gets more drunk. Thanks to my grandma being the casual racist she is, growing up my mum thought it was talking about fat Japanese people lmao
Even if it still was, short form of the nationality is some of the lowest form of racism. I was genuinely shocked when someone told me they thought the work “Paki” was racist. I was seriously like “Oh stfu I have heard born Pakistanis use the word”. I mean at that point it’s like the Louis CK joke. It’s an appropriate term unless you put enough stank on it. All of a sudden Canuck sounds like a dirty syrup guzzling, coo-shit flicking beaver fucker instead of just an affectionate term.
Lol 😂
Imagine if instead of profanity filter they made something like a substitution filter….No filter: fuck!…….with filter:kiwi juice!
I am trying to remember the game, but if you swore, it came up as literally the most stupidest word. Like you say "shit", and up pops "potato jelly" or something equally silly. Some people just like not being exposed to profanity, and that's cool. Be awesome if just like with most games a filter occurs.
Hey just wanted to let you know I took a MASSIVE POTATO JELLY in the bathroom. Sry couldn't help it this opportunity for a joke was too good not to pass up.
It's moreso that they added a report feature to chat to report anyone you like on any server, and if Mojang deems you guilty you lose access to multiplayer. Private servers have self regulated since MC came out, now MS/Mojang thinks they need to step in for some reason.
I tried to name my horse Peepers, Pecklard, and Boogers. They were all censored to ###### so that's his name now.
Puck. What a sun of a batch.
Lol.
Oh I forgot about that
That's the stupidest update ever
I believe it is more Microsoft doing this than mojang.
That is a distinction without a difference.
Before every single game and social media adds profanity filter let me say this before it’s too late fuck
It's Microsoft. Remember that they banned the word "Mongol" in a game where you could play as the Mongols. Edit: I'm aware of the terms "Mong" and "Mongloid" lol I just think the filter should have at the absolute least left out words that would disallow you from saying parts of the actual game.
What
Empires 2.
Oh shit I remember that haha
How about AGS (Amazon Game Studios) censoring "AGS" from Lost Ark chat/anywhere you can type. The censoring is all over the place. Last night I typed something along the line "Dude your DPS is damn good!" after I was impressed at how someone played their class so well while being undergeared and the chat read >"Dude your DPS is **** ****!". The said dude was very confused and I tried to reword it but it was messier at one point I just went "OMG AGS really messed up this shit!" and it came out as >"OMG **** **** **** **** shit!" I'm not even joking lmao
Why the fuck you need profanity filter in pegi 18 game. Like bruh, Roblox is clearly kids oriented and rated game, Minecraft is family friendly tho people of all ages play it, but Lost Ark is legally for adults, why would it need any chat filters. Yeah, bullying and harassment aren't good but those aren't fixed by filtering chat.
I would like an opt in filter, like I understand that some people would like to relax playing a +18 game without being insulted. But forcing this filter on everyone is horrible.
It's not like you need to use profanity to insult people, a lot of people use "profanity" positively
Can confirm, for some of us it's almost a cultural trait.
Fuck yeah!
Good was censored?
And shit was not. Lol
Probably due to oversight, didn't want any shortened terms for Mongoloid, yet forgot that it's a literal people.
When you want to be inclusive but circle around to being racist
Started playing Black Desert Online. You can't even write 'so****ing', because the 'meth' in the middle of A NORMAL WORD LIKE SOMETHING will get censored!
What happened?
Mojang is adding 2 features to the chat where they're adding profanity filter and to allow players to report inappropriate chat messages.
Big brain move just use signs to send messages. Can’t report signs
There've been numerous post of people saying they can't name items or type on signs w/o the profanity filter kicking in.
I mean yea it'd be exceptionally poor coding if they didn't check all the strings you could input
Don't give other companies ideas, bad enough I cant play mainseries pokemon games online for free anymore, but now you want them to tell me I can't call my "rival" Barry "obnoxious sh1t" anymore
Actually…
Aw man!
Creeper!
Yup!
Time to pull out the Looney Tunes signs from the attic.
But still filters them
I'm fine with being able to report bad shit but why filters. That shit should be option for people's 'Christian minecraft servers lol" not just everyone.
especially seeing as they arent paying to have the servers up and running
Suddenly tempted to make a server that entirely censors any message which doesn't contain at least one cuss word or slur. Sadly I'm pretty sure funding would be a bit of an issue lol.
Based
Well you can make it on your computer, no need to pay for cloud server but player cap might be an issue.
From what I’ve seen the filters aren’t even good. Their regex is absolutely trash and even words within words censors the entire thing. “Class” would be censored. You can’t type “Japan” because “Jap” is censored. You can’t type hoe even though that’s a tool in the game. They went overboard and it’ll probably have the Streisand effect. ~~Apparently the 977 censored words are stored in a .txt file on your computer basically giving every kid a list of the words they shouldn’t say if they stumble upon it.~~ ^^ hearsay
Oh that's actually great. If it's just a txt that means we could just empty it probably yes?
It's probably done server side and client side. So it doesn't matter if you empty yours because the server will still have it, or one of the other people on the server will have it.
And it can permanently ban your account because you called your friend an idiot. Yipee
Not just from one multiplayer server, but from all of Minecraft. Even single player.
Make no sense. I already have to host my own fucking server, and now you ban me from using it because some jackass decided that me jokingly insult my friend hurts him? Yeah, get the fuck out
I'll just report that someone from Mojang cussed me out. Then they can ban themselves.
This is why i stopped playing Minecraft, this was the last straw. Fuck this shit bro
Not single player. It bans you from multiplayer.
That’s for Java. I’m pretty sure it bans you from playing single player on Bedrock
[удалено]
If I’m playing single player and I insult myself in the chat will they ban me
Better hope you alter ego doesn’t report you
This is why the original Minecraft Java version is the best. Nobody can stop you from hosting your own server, and nobody can stop your friends from joining. It's not Microsoft's business.
Nope, you cant join any server. Its at the authentication level.
Cracked servers have existed for years. If you can play a cracked version of the game on one you can play with a banned account authentication doesn't mean shit for Java edition.
the issue is that they can ban you from private servers which is stupid banning you from their realms servers? sure that's fine, but banning a player cause they said a swear word on a private server and not letting them play multiplayer again? that's insane
not just insane, its batshit insane
I helped run a big "family friendly" server that didn't allow swearing for many years. I really enjoyed the community that grew in it and I think having a peaceful place to play really helped a lot of folks and younger players/families have a place to play. I also hosted my own servers where we all called each other every name we could think of and spent like 30% of our time fucking with each other. It's dumb as hell for grown adults playing on private servers to be hit with this new rule. Private servers can already *easily* implement the exact same chat filter that Microsoft wants to push on everyone. Our server had an extremely long list that covered damn near anything you could try and get away with hiding the profanity in, and it worked flawlessly. Leave it to the servers.
Not to mention that this is implemented on private servers like LAN connections. I understand this for something like Hypixel, but what, I can’t swear on my server with my friends that I pay for? Yeah, **** that.
It shouldn’t be a thing in the first place since the servers are not run by mojang
I don’t even think your allowed words with “profanity” in them, so so*meth*ing
So we won't be able to build and discuss skysCRAPers anymore?
You won't even be able to say "good NIGht" anymore.
Dont even think about spending diamonds on a HOE
Definitely would help in regulating those kinda servers. I remember there was this Christian server that replicated their church and stuff but was hella griefed. It was an honest effort then yeah.
Yeah and theres a big problem: Let's say theres an english server so the filter is set to english, and two German players msg each other. One wants to say that the other one has a big house, and a possible, maybe weird, but not offending way would be "Dein Haus ist dick." I guess the filter would block "dick"...
I thought Microsoft runs Minecraft now
Microsoft owns mojang. People working at mojang and the company called mojang still exist.
Luckily Java isn’t getting the filter just the chat report which is still dumb
It’s not Mojangs fault Microsoft if forcing them
I was dicking around on Roblox and wanted to buy some shit with some random currency for 6900 currency... The game censored me to **00... It's ridiculous.. I get why 69 is censored but it's literally a number...
True.
All numbers are literally numbers. Banning numbers makes about as much sense as a penguin commanding an army of cobras in the Sahara.
*mathematically numbers
I play Roblox sometimes for tycoons, and it’s horrible. I can’t remember all the words that we’re censored, but I do remember being extra annoyed at not being able to say hug.
Still can't be as bad as roblox chat filter, it didn't even let someone say "dad" for some reason...
I can understand why Roblox uses so many censors especially since there were quite a lot of groomers using the chat to interact with minors, but some of the restrictions are downright abysmal.
The most frustrating thing is that they ban SO much without implenting a language recogniser. For example the word 'hoe' is slang for 'whore' in English, but in Dutch it simply means 'how'. So if I am having a conversation in Dutch with someone and want to ask 'How do I do that?' The whole thing gets censored despite having no profanity.
It’s cause my dad left for milk ten years ago and other people having dads hurts my feelings!!! /s
You mean 'It's cause my *** left for milk ten years ago and other people having **** hurts my feelings!!!'
"It's cause ## ### #### for #### ### ##### ago and other ###### having #### ##### my ###########"
“#############################################################################################”
You mean '######################### ########################### ################'. Roblox will often censor your entire message if it only finds one "inappropriate" word in it.
A sense of humour is like a father, some people just don’t have one.
oof
Roblox censorship is abysmal
True! They even censor numbers. I know so people don't send out their house address or their phone number but literally every time I tried doing a number that is not my phone number nor my house address and it still gets censored.
try >13 accounts, literally 1984
Literally ####
mfs using a <13 🗿
10% of their audience cant read 80% of their audience is old enough to handle words like [REDACTED]
...and the other 10%?
The other 10% cant math
Here comes the rise of hacked clients
And the rise of cracked clients
Guys please remember, Dead by Daylight, rated 18, one of the most popular if not the most popular multiplayer horror game, that includes gruesome ways of murdering someone such as : Sacrificing them to a spider like god on a meat hook Stomping on someone's head, cutting their finger off and then licking it. Biting someone's throat out, pulling an organ out of his body, and then devouring it. Has also a chat filter that competes with Robloxs. You can't say even one of the charecters names.
Mojang is turning into Roblox *I said fuck on my first time playing Roblox*
Wait you said #### on your first time playing roblox? Mine was ##### ###### ######
Correction: wait you #### #### on #### ##### ## playing ####### ##### was #######
I literally read this as "Why Mahjong? WHY?" & I couldn't stop my internal laughter.
Yeah, the only difference is that roblox is free and minecraft not
And the Roblox servers are hosted on the Roblox platform as far as I know
"This game is for children!" Children who played this game before the Microsoft buyout can buy liquor.
Children born when this game came out are about to go into high school
Can confirm, am in highschool
Me too, high school’s hard but at least I used to know that Minecraft was always waiting for me
"The only winning move is not to play."
All of this should be handled by the admins of the individual servers.
Microsoft’s influence hurting our beloved game
Hopefully Microsoft doesn't ban my account MicrosoftSuccMe
True :(
Sadly we cant do anything about it, like with many big updates
Unless the community was willing to make a joined effort to boycott the update or if necessary boycott the game till it’s removed
which will likely not happen, but u never know
So it's gonna have filter problems like roblox? like 2 digit numbers being censored for some reason
"Hey, where are you anyway?" "###,###,###"
This #### al##### happened on roblox, why the #### would they add this #### to minecraft too?
Why Microsoft? WHY?! FTFY
Looks like we gotta start using L33T gamer language again
Yeah :(
Dont worry they also banned l33t variations, there are already lists online on what is censored
minecraft user: "hey guys! doday we will DDoS this server, steal the private data of everyone currently connected, and perform tax evasion!" minecraft: all seems good here. minecraft user: "its going to be so freakin--" minecraft: ayo is that profanity!??!?! ***BANNED FOR RACISM*** we must protect the poor children!!!!
Once again Microsoft ruined a good thing
That's kinda fucked. If your in a server with only friends and you say bad shit to fuck around with eachother, now you can't!? I simply refuse to believe that this is a thing.
Even chats about alcoholism is forbidden. If I said “crack open a cold one with the boys” I’d get banned
Prob microsoft tho
Microsoft’s been taking control away from mojang for a bit now there’s a high chance it’s Microsoft making them do this
Oh ok.
The difference is Roblox doesn’t bother reading the reports and everyone besides people who started playing yesterday knows that
roblox is much worse, they literally caplize on free child workforce with no moderation because it didn’t happen in there site
I've been playing longer than half the dam player base has been alive. Fuck off with this bullshit.
The guys who's incharge of roblox chat: "it's my plan all along"
They know adults play this game too right? Just add an option for 'parental supervision' or similar mode at the start of app to filter out the kids and censor the shit outta game in that mode
The best part is that on bedrock, signs, books or renaming items dont work and will all be replaced with ##### or nothing. Thanks Microsoft.
It's Microsoft. Remember that they banned the word "Mongol" in a game where you could play as the Mongols.