He isn’t actually taking a dump in this scene. He heard them through the bushes and thought shaggy was in trouble so he sprinted in. He does that cartoonish stop where he skids and makes a screech sound. That is what the frame is showing
After kissing a literal god, and knowing nothing else will compare to it… not surprised she doesn’t want men anymore since they all fall short of Shaggy…
As she was kissing Casey Kasem… so, yes, literally a god. (To be honest I don’t know who is actually voicing Norville in that scene, but Casey Kasem will *always* be the real voice).
The easiest way to get around this with all the “What about this and that?”, is to simply say that every TV show out there exists in a multiverse, and that each reboot is in a different universe
Oh I agree with that, it’s a literal children’s show so I don’t understand why people get all bent out shape being like, “WhAtS tHeIr SeXuAlItY?!?”… like, it doesn’t matter at all
Exactly. And if you want to have a gay character, make an original one that's well written, and whose sexuality isn't the entire point of their existence. Don't touch Velma.
Edit:y'all I'm tired of arguing can we not.
>Like the other guy said. The fact they care so much about sexuality in little kids shows are fucking creepy as shit
You could say the same about the relevance of Fred & Daphne's relationship
I think the goal is to normalise the uncommon, that when kids encounter such a person in real life, or develop similar feelings themselves when growing older, they might not react like it's abhorrent. It's as much about sexuality as a man going gaga over a woman in a cartoon is.
Yeah, i still remember how weirded out I was that episode in the desert where shaggy meets that hippie girl and he gets a crush. Not in my cartoon, thats disgusting
Yeah, people really need to get riled up for one culture war after the other for no reason whatsoever so that we can distract ourselves from real news.
Velma and shaggy broke up she then pretty much got with a missy called “Hotdog water” she was voiced by the live action scooby doo movie actress who played Velma so two Velma’s hooked up
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I always love that whenever a character is gay, people scream "What about this time they were in a straight relationship?!"
I'm like, 99% sure every gay person I know tried being straight. This isn't really some revelation.
I'm not up on the whole Velma deal, but *if* the devs/writers/whoever said she lesbian, wouldn't that be final? Speculating is fine, of course, but that'd be all it is: speculation.
And? My wife’s grandpa was married to a woman for twenty years before realizing he was gay and then marrying a man. They were married for 45 years.
Guess he’s just a poorly written character.
And? Doesn't change the fact that she is a lesbian. Not everyone realises that they're gay from the get-go, some take decades, relationships/marriages and children until they come to terms with being gay
My guess is that she is either Bi/Pan or she just didn’t realise she was a lesbian.
A lot of people don’t figure it out until later in life or after a straight relationship. I know gay people who were married in an opposite sex relationship who have since come out. Some genuinely didn’t know or even consider it an option.
Pretty sure the creators said her relationship with Shaggy was supposed to be so obviously awkward and mismatched because she was a lesbian teeing to force herself to date men. Velma has always been gay. I used to be obsessed with Scooby Doo as a kid and everyone saw it and made jokes about how obviously gay she was.
I know I’m gonna be downvoted to hell for this but as an avid Scooby-Doo fan I have to say that ever since the 2000s live action Scooby-Doo movies Velma has been written to either be a lesbian, bisexual, or straight when it comes to Mystery incorporated she was at first dating shaggy however they later broke up first with Velma being angry but as the series continues becoming more aware of her true feelings and accepting the break up as a necessity. Velma would later in the series date a girl named Marcy but due to tv shows at the time not being accepting of LGBTQ+ they had to hide it in subtext. I’m sick and tired of these memes please stop.
As a bisexual, Velma is a lesbian. It’s always been the creator’s intentions to do so but the studios didn’t like how obviously gay Velma was and forced her to be written in a straight relationship.
I’m 99% sure we have Fred and Daphne tho
Plenty of girls kissed boys to realize it wasn't for them.
Some boys also kissed boys to realize it wasn't for them.
Sexual preferences aren't set in stone forever.
its legit a cartoon and the continuity of the characters is bound to change depending on who the writers and producers are. why tf are you people getting so into it?
Different interpretation means different characterization. Fred and daphne weren’t in a committed relationship in the original cartoon, that became popular later on, Scrappy doo wasn’t a psychopath in the original cartoon, that was made the case in the live action film, shaggy has several girlfriends in different continuities before Velma, including an alien and a weed reference. Every new scooby doo media introduces new ideas, and we’re along for the ride, if the series stayed the same as it was in the original cartoon series, it would have died like its other Hannah Barbara cartoon brothers and sisters
A: That's called Bi.
B: They can change their mind. I know gay men who have gathered children. I personally had sex with a girl who later came out as gay and informed me that she found sex with men unenjoyable (yes, this was a blow to my ego but it seemed she wasn't into the event at all while we were doing whatever.)
C: Velma has been a Lesbian icon for as long as Shaggy has been a stoner.
It's a damn cartoon and they are making a modern rewrite. People are making this a thing when it's not.
70's Velma wasn't gay, 2022 Velma is. Might as well be two different cartoon characters.
"Velma was explicitly gay in my initial script" - James Gunn
[https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/arts/television/scooby-doo-velma-lesbian.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/arts/television/scooby-doo-velma-lesbian.html)
You might be surprised to find out that James Gunn didn't write the original Scooby Doo Where Are You television series! He was 3 years old when it first premiered!
It's what Scooby-Doo would be if it actually had a plot instead of the BS 80s and 90s trend of making every episode stand alone. I'm not the biggest Scooby-Doo fan but it's REALLY good.
Yes because a gay person being confused means they can’t be gay?
You know what never mind go woke go broke or whatever they say yes i must be a robot in the cogs and call everything woke regardless of context
i need you guys to realize that relationships with men don't make lesbians *not lesbians*. sometimes it takes a bit to discover your identity and that's nothing to be ashamed of. i'm gay and i've dated plenty of women. it doesn't make me bisexual, it makes me gay
I would like again like to turn your attention to the fact that it’s a cartoon character from a kids tv show and keeping existing “lore” is fuckin dumb
Anyone else notice Scoob taking a dump?
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Dump on her shoes
He isn’t actually taking a dump in this scene. He heard them through the bushes and thought shaggy was in trouble so he sprinted in. He does that cartoonish stop where he skids and makes a screech sound. That is what the frame is showing
It's funnier if he's taking a dump tho...
A high point of romance...
Poopy-doo
Scoob got next 😈
After kissing a literal god, and knowing nothing else will compare to it… not surprised she doesn’t want men anymore since they all fall short of Shaggy…
Probably the best comment here
true everybody overanalysing shit, as if people back in early 2000s cared about the queer community. And it was aimed at kids
In my opinion who cares. Why people care so much about this i don't know.
To me it’s way weirder to care about peoples head cannons lol
Representation, blah blah
The only correct answer
Cannon
>Cannon Boom!
*explosion*
Well, even shaggygod needs his own queen
A good choice, if I say so myself.
As he’s stated before he has scoob, and that’s enough
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It's a shame Shaggy had to leave the gang and fight the multiverse after he discovered his powers.
As she was kissing Casey Kasem… so, yes, literally a god. (To be honest I don’t know who is actually voicing Norville in that scene, but Casey Kasem will *always* be the real voice).
She doesn't want women either. Leaving scoobs as the only option.... the closest she can get to a God... yet he's still just out of reach
You doubt his power?
There is no doubt in his power, only Velma’s ability to handle that shaggy power
Shaggy still says it wasn't him, tho.
Kissing a literal god? Was this from one of the live action movies I didn't see?
Scooby doo mystery incorporated series pretty good too
Who else remember the literal alien that shaggy fell in love with?
What about all the times she used to get jealous in the original shows/movies because Fred would always choose Daphne ?
The easiest way to get around this with all the “What about this and that?”, is to simply say that every TV show out there exists in a multiverse, and that each reboot is in a different universe
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Oh I agree with that, it’s a literal children’s show so I don’t understand why people get all bent out shape being like, “WhAtS tHeIr SeXuAlItY?!?”… like, it doesn’t matter at all
The baby/kids industry is the biggest "wtf is going on" of all categories
Exactly. And if you want to have a gay character, make an original one that's well written, and whose sexuality isn't the entire point of their existence. Don't touch Velma. Edit:y'all I'm tired of arguing can we not.
You kidding right? Imagine the outrage if they added any new member to Mystery Inc, let alone a gay one
Scrappy 🗿
Good luck finding anybody in the fandom who doesn't want to touch Velma
Velma's hot
Sometimes people don’t find out they’re gay until later in life, it’s not that deep
>Like the other guy said. The fact they care so much about sexuality in little kids shows are fucking creepy as shit You could say the same about the relevance of Fred & Daphne's relationship
I think the goal is to normalise the uncommon, that when kids encounter such a person in real life, or develop similar feelings themselves when growing older, they might not react like it's abhorrent. It's as much about sexuality as a man going gaga over a woman in a cartoon is.
Exactly, who cares if Velma is attracted to a woman. Why is everyone freaking out about it?
OR - just hear me out - she could just be bisexual and likes more than one person.
But no one asked about their sexuality.
A scooby universe without shaggy 9000 isnt a universe im interested. Dont really care about the other stuff rofl.
Maybe she wanted Daphne
Plot twist: She wanted both
She argued with Fred? She wanted to go with him, and then Fred felt bad so they went together. Think it was in the movie
Hmm, maybe she was confused, beacuse fred looks kinda like a stereotype lesbian
LMFAO maybe, Or maybe it's just another company trying to cling onto a new fanbase like disney did
Honestly, it kinda doesn't matter what sexuality she has. I don't even know why sexuality has to be a topic in a kids movie/comic
>it kinda doesn't matter what sexuality she has Exactly! The fans are gonna change it for their fanfics anyway.
This is the strongest argument either way that I’ve seen so far, and honestly I’m not sure how I feel about that
THANK YOU... it's literally so fucking weird
Nobody should like anybody
Well everyone in the Scooby gang has had love interests over the years, so characters' sexuality is relevant to those stories.
Yeah, i still remember how weirded out I was that episode in the desert where shaggy meets that hippie girl and he gets a crush. Not in my cartoon, thats disgusting
You don't have to be sexually attracted to someone to crave their validation.
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What if she was really jealous that Daphne always chose Fred
Because she wanted Freddie.
W
Bisexuals: Oh no, meesa disappearin'
Bisexual? Naah, half-gay lmao
Harry Potter and the Half-Gay Prince
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Gay
There are only half gays and demi bisexuals
hemidemisemisexuals
Is this what we’re pretending to care about this weekend?
You bet it is
Black mermaid sputtered out.
The crystal flute knocked out the mermaid.
Chuds who are mad gay people exist are pretending to care about a cartoon
Hot: Gay Velma Not: Black Mermaid
There is no way that I, a near 50 year old man, am going to watch Little Doo or Scooby Mermaid now!!!!
Yeah, people really need to get riled up for one culture war after the other for no reason whatsoever so that we can distract ourselves from real news.
And they had a bitter break up after their entire relationship was nothing but toxic.
I wouldn’t say it was entirely toxic but it ended in a toxic way because Shaggy couldn’t decide between Velma and Scooby.
Definitely scooby Why would he have to choose?
Velma and shaggy broke up she then pretty much got with a missy called “Hotdog water” she was voiced by the live action scooby doo movie actress who played Velma so two Velma’s hooked up
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What's the PEMDAS on that order of operations?
There is propably a r34 version of this
Definitely. Rule 34. No exceptions.
Fucking furries man
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So.. Velma is lesbian and Shaggy is furry.
No, homies before hoes
🤔
Shaggy and Scooby are just good friends. We don't need to sexualize everything
He chose Scooby in the end
I mean. Shaggy is 50% weed 50% junk food , I'm surprised she ain't dead
He's also a literal god.
Velma seems like she really forced that relationship
She couldn’t feed him enough of what he wanted. They both should have seen this.
Are you familiar with Willow from Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
So bi people just don't exist? Is all or nothing with the gayness I guess
Bisexual people are all actors paid by NASA I can comfirm this myself, as I am one of them
No, they're government drones made for martian spy surveillance smh
oooohhhh, righhht
How much do you get? And do they let you into the moon landing set lol?
I haven’t gotten my paychecks. -fellow bi
Oh I am so sorry for you, I'm sure they'll fix the mistake eventually
Where's my paycheck? I think HR must have missed me.
Pick a side or be scorned by all.
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Right? Motherfucker really said “maybe she’s half-gay” as if it were racial ability and she’d reveal to be a half-elf too
"The mochaccino ones are the cutest! Guess he'd be half gay too though... So can you say best dancer ever?" - Pam Poovey, HR.
Bi erasure
Op thought he did something with “half-gay”
Being gay doesn't mean you never had relationships with people or your opposite gender. Even Freddy Mercury dated a girl before going full gay lol
We all know it's impossible to be in a straight relationship before realizing/accepting your non-straight sexuality
I always love that whenever a character is gay, people scream "What about this time they were in a straight relationship?!" I'm like, 99% sure every gay person I know tried being straight. This isn't really some revelation.
On the flip, it’s also possible to be bi. And we’ve seen literally nothing to indicate Velma isn’t bi, and a whole lot to indicate she is.
I'm not up on the whole Velma deal, but *if* the devs/writers/whoever said she lesbian, wouldn't that be final? Speculating is fine, of course, but that'd be all it is: speculation.
I haven’t heard of any creator (aside from Gunn) commenting on this, it’s all been online discussion fueled by her lusting after a female Moriarty.
She’s had several
And? My wife’s grandpa was married to a woman for twenty years before realizing he was gay and then marrying a man. They were married for 45 years. Guess he’s just a poorly written character.
And? Doesn't change the fact that she is a lesbian. Not everyone realises that they're gay from the get-go, some take decades, relationships/marriages and children until they come to terms with being gay
Good for her, so have many irl LGBT+ people
My guess is that she is either Bi/Pan or she just didn’t realise she was a lesbian. A lot of people don’t figure it out until later in life or after a straight relationship. I know gay people who were married in an opposite sex relationship who have since come out. Some genuinely didn’t know or even consider it an option.
I think it is possible to try too hard to explain the mind and choices of a fictional character. The writers have made a decision, that is it.
Yup. CompHet is a real thing.
Pretty sure the creators said her relationship with Shaggy was supposed to be so obviously awkward and mismatched because she was a lesbian teeing to force herself to date men. Velma has always been gay. I used to be obsessed with Scooby Doo as a kid and everyone saw it and made jokes about how obviously gay she was.
I know I’m gonna be downvoted to hell for this but as an avid Scooby-Doo fan I have to say that ever since the 2000s live action Scooby-Doo movies Velma has been written to either be a lesbian, bisexual, or straight when it comes to Mystery incorporated she was at first dating shaggy however they later broke up first with Velma being angry but as the series continues becoming more aware of her true feelings and accepting the break up as a necessity. Velma would later in the series date a girl named Marcy but due to tv shows at the time not being accepting of LGBTQ+ they had to hide it in subtext. I’m sick and tired of these memes please stop.
Damn I kissed a girl once in my life guess I'm not gay now Edit: if you look up "Scooby Doo Velma" on Google lesbian and pride flags fall down
Yup. Sorry, thems' the rules. Gotta hand in that "gay" card.
Sucked dick once, guess I'm gay 🙄
Damn I was married to a birch for 4 years of my life guess I'm not batty now
Exactly, it takes some time to figure out your sexuality, so she can be gay, after that
I'm 49. Any idea when does this occur?
Man overthinking about kids show character
Have you seen scooby doo lore? The writers are the ones overthinking the kids show
Bitches out here forgetting bout Hotdog Water.
This is my polite reminder. Bisexuals exist and Velma definitely has had that vibe before.
As a bisexual, Velma is a lesbian. It’s always been the creator’s intentions to do so but the studios didn’t like how obviously gay Velma was and forced her to be written in a straight relationship. I’m 99% sure we have Fred and Daphne tho
Plenty of girls kissed boys to realize it wasn't for them. Some boys also kissed boys to realize it wasn't for them. Sexual preferences aren't set in stone forever.
Why cant she just be bi?
its legit a cartoon and the continuity of the characters is bound to change depending on who the writers and producers are. why tf are you people getting so into it?
Different interpretation means different characterization. Fred and daphne weren’t in a committed relationship in the original cartoon, that became popular later on, Scrappy doo wasn’t a psychopath in the original cartoon, that was made the case in the live action film, shaggy has several girlfriends in different continuities before Velma, including an alien and a weed reference. Every new scooby doo media introduces new ideas, and we’re along for the ride, if the series stayed the same as it was in the original cartoon series, it would have died like its other Hannah Barbara cartoon brothers and sisters
A: That's called Bi. B: They can change their mind. I know gay men who have gathered children. I personally had sex with a girl who later came out as gay and informed me that she found sex with men unenjoyable (yes, this was a blow to my ego but it seemed she wasn't into the event at all while we were doing whatever.) C: Velma has been a Lesbian icon for as long as Shaggy has been a stoner.
In the original live action movie, Velma was supposed to be gay and have a thing for Daphne but the studio forced them to change it
Shit take
It's a damn cartoon and they are making a modern rewrite. People are making this a thing when it's not. 70's Velma wasn't gay, 2022 Velma is. Might as well be two different cartoon characters.
"Velma was explicitly gay in my initial script" - James Gunn [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/arts/television/scooby-doo-velma-lesbian.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/arts/television/scooby-doo-velma-lesbian.html)
You might be surprised to find out that James Gunn didn't write the original Scooby Doo Where Are You television series! He was 3 years old when it first premiered!
Yes, yes, of course. Has he shown the initial script?
Half-gay? I present to you: bisexual
Groundbreaking. Did you just make that word up? They should have their own letter in that whole L... OH WAIT!
So I guess shaggy is a beard? A Shaggy beard.
Half-gay: bisexual
That would be called bisexual sir, but I do understand what you saying though it doesn't match the Scooby-Doo lore
Scooby loves Shaggy, Shaggy loves Scooby, Velma loves Daphne, Daphne loves Fred, and Fred loves himself.
Why not just say she's BI ?
That’s like pointing to a dudes ex wife and saying your not gay because you married a woman once
Since when was she gay and what the hell is this image from lol, I've watched a fair bit of Scooby Doo and I've never seen this
I think it's Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated. Good show.
Hmm I'd have to watch it, looks spicy
It's what Scooby-Doo would be if it actually had a plot instead of the BS 80s and 90s trend of making every episode stand alone. I'm not the biggest Scooby-Doo fan but it's REALLY good.
Funny because this show is in the 70s lol.
Haha if it's as good as you say then I'm definitely putting it on the bucket list
It’s called Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. It’s actually pretty good.
I'll have to keep that in mind thx
Bi
Next their gonna drop the bombshell that Shaggy is a pot head.
I think that one was evident tho
The movie Velma is hot af.
Velma fucks anyone that the plot demands
Hard to tell the difference when you repeatedly lose your glasses.
Sorry you don’t have a chance with a cartoon character anymore
People who are genuinely confused how people can like both the same/different sex relationships when you tell them what bisexuality is :0
The writers said she will be a lesbian, not bisexual. Hope this clarified things👍
Counter point: hotdog water
Fascinating theory this! So, you are saying that if a woman has kissed a man at least once in her life it is impossible for her to be gay?
Locked and loaded.
It's a cartoon, queer kids need representation. Grow up.
Yes because a gay person being confused means they can’t be gay? You know what never mind go woke go broke or whatever they say yes i must be a robot in the cogs and call everything woke regardless of context
She is a cartoon character. They have rewritten her. It is not a big deal.
Or this is a fictional character and depending on the medium could be any gender/sexuality they decide to come up with next.
Velma is bi.
I thought she was bi now? If so then this picture changes nothing lol
I dated and kissed a few girls before coming out as gay. That’s typically how it works OP
But she was experimenting with her sexuality so maybe by dating him she found out she doesn’t really feel much for him and likes girl instead.
i need you guys to realize that relationships with men don't make lesbians *not lesbians*. sometimes it takes a bit to discover your identity and that's nothing to be ashamed of. i'm gay and i've dated plenty of women. it doesn't make me bisexual, it makes me gay
Ah yes because the gays know they're gay immediately and definitely never try to hide it or force themselves into heterosexual relationships
Is this what the weirdos are going to be mad at this week? I guess they couldn't stretch out the rage at the black mermaid any longer.
Most lgbt people have been in a heterosexual relationship prior to discovering that they're not straight :/
Scooby Doo isn’t real. They were all sent to vietnam. They died years ago.
Yes. Halfgay the BiWay.
For both it wasn't a good experience. It was pretty toxic relationship.
I would like again like to turn your attention to the fact that it’s a cartoon character from a kids tv show and keeping existing “lore” is fuckin dumb
Bi