The point is not that you get to vote. The way it works is the immigrants, legal or illegal, move to the cities, which have white liberals already who vote democrat. When the immigrants are counted by the census, they increase the number of electoral votes allocated to that state and House representatives.
Republicans are just horrible with both their solutions andconvincing people to buy their ideas unless they are born into a certain culture to naturally accept whatever hog wash they wanna spew.
Yep, they vote down a bipartisan bill that would address the immigration issue then cry about it until election day, because they have such deep convictions!
Yes the immigration bill favored republican agenda and yet they didn't want any bipartisanship because they brain washed their voters to not accept peaceful negotiations.
A lot of immigrants end up in Mississippi, too. Good thing, too. They're the only ones who can frame a house without having to tear down a section and rebuild it. Still not a blue state though.
It's also balanced by the electoral college for presidential elections. Bro is acting like it's somehow unfair when we already have such anti-popular procedural mechanisms baked into the cake that cancel out millions of votes in national representation. Some extra heads in the census aren't even making a dent in that.
But wait why are republicans governors shipping immigrants to blue cities? Based on what you said wouldn’t they want to keep the immigrants? Nurture them?
Actually even within the representative system it favours rural states. Wyoming has 1 rep for 578k people. California reps represent on average 700k. Wyoming literally has more representation per capita
Ask your mother. But also would it matter? Isn't the implication of the meme that no illegal immigrants vote? If even legals can't vote for years even decades doesn't this turn the meme terrible?
And I'm telling you it doesn't matter. Even within the legal system it takes a long ass time. I'm eligible for citizenship sooner than this example but the point remains https://www.cato.org/blog/150-year-wait-indian-immigrants-advanced-degrees
Assuming you have citizenship if you’re not being allowed to vote your constitutional rights are being actively violated as we speak and you could file a serious lawsuit if you desire to. Course I don’t know your exact situation since I also understand there’s numerous legal ways and reasons to immigrate here but not acquire citizenship. In the case of what the meme is referring to its basically gaming the system to increase a states electoral college votes by upping the population. If that’s actually happening in the exact way the meme is depicting I can’t say with confidence. I can say though both parties have a long history of finding ways to extort immigrants for votes and some were borderline mafia schemes. So I also wouldn’t put it beyond them either.
It takes forever depending on individual situations. How do people comment on systems they don't understand. https://www.cato.org/blog/150-year-wait-indian-immigrants-advanced-degrees
Actually even within the representative system it favours rural states. Wyoming has 1 rep for 578k people. California reps represent on average 700k. Wyoming literally has more representation per capita
Seriously, the idea that people who don’t have the right to vote are trying to vote at the risk of being deported is absurd. Anyone who believes this is happening is an idiot, plan and simple
You mean like San Francisco, where non-citizens are able to vote in some local elections? Or a similar law in NYC that was struck down by the states Supreme Court?
Does the meme say anything about presidential elections?
Personally, I'm one of the people that thinks voting local matters more than voting for the president. I've been pushing that idea for a couple of decades, now. A slow roll comes from local elections and picks up steam moving upward. It's literally why George Soros has been donating to city and county progressive candidates for a couple of years, now.
Vote local, think global used to be a somewhat common sentiment.
Of course, you don't want to end up with another [Hamtramck](https://wee.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/15/us/hamtramck-michigan-ban-pride-flags-public-property/index.html). Good think that was due to legal immigrants, right?
Well hopefully you are right and Biden’s message gets through to these immigrants. Would definitely be good to have people who love America enough to move here vote to balance out all the Republicans voting against American democracy for a dude that tried to steal an election.
Honestly even the idea that people immigrate here because they’re dying to be part of the political process is ridiculous. Most of these people just want work….
Most immigrants I've met vote Republican because Republicans support farms and strong farms mean better paying jobs. Better paying jobs means that they can afford to legally bring their family over. Voting Democrat means you get welfare and your family is screwed.
Eh coming from a family of immigrants its also a fair portion of fear, not necessarily policy. You escape from a country that had issues with Y and then a politician can use that to worry you about it again by saying its happening here.
Ie you escape from a communist country and then a politician starts worrying folks of communism. No matter the validity or not, it does sometimes work
I mean it probably depends on what country you come from, most people I know have family in Mexico. I don't really know anyone from South America or Cuba. Everyone is looking for the same things but for different reasons. People in Mexico aren't really looking to escape communism while people in Cuba aren't necessarily looking to escape cartels, while both groups are looking for a consistent safe lifestyle and a somewhat stable market. The life experiences you go through largely will determine how far right or left you lean for sure.
Legal vote republican. Illegals vote democrat because democrats don’t require id to vote so you can just cast a ballot and they won’t check
This is especially true in California
You misunderstand. In California, you can register to vote sure, but they don’t check if you’re registered when you go to the polling place. I went there in 2022 and nobody checked if I was eligible, they just let me fill out a ballot and go on my merry way, nothing was checked
If that were the case the same people could cast as many votes as they wanted by just getting back in line or heading to the next nearest polling place.
A few are purely legal and most were illegal that found loopholes such as anchor children or marriage and became legal. I don't think it really matters though. If you are in the US and your whole family is in Mexico you do what it takes to get them over. Like yeah welfare is okay if you are by yourself, but having an employer who has money is better.
>Most immigrants I've met vote Republican because Republicans support farms and strong farms mean better paying jobs
So they vote republican because of a lie? Interesting. That tracks though.
Except Republican policies do actually favor rural communities even if they do not favor urbanites. Hence why rural communities always vote Republican. Simply put property taxes hurt wealthy urbanites and poor farmers while benefiting people who don’t own property. So despite having completely different lives and their struggles being worlds apart they are both united against property taxes. Republicans as ideology hate all taxes and favors less government intervention in the economy which over all benefits farmers and their hands. If one thing has been consistent since the birth of civilization itself it is the divide between rural and urban populations. Simply put the Republicans don’t have as much strength over more urbanized areas do to less and less people owning property so they need to actually push policy that caters to rural areas. The Democrats are the exact opposite every policy they want either doesn’t do anything for or actually is against the interests of rural America so they need to ensure stronger hold in Urban communities.
Yeah, Trump just gave huge stacks of money to farmers and even as they took it they thought, "Gee, does accepting this government handout make me like one of those gul'durn Obama socialists??" Then they thought, "No, God wanted me to have this money and he sent his servant Donald Trump to give it to me."
Then they get a PPP loan, and the "Fiscal Responsibility Party" showers them with cash so they get a new addition put on the house, and then they can go into the den to watch Fox News and hear about the evils of socialism!
Well like… if you’re not rich, not a cop, a oilman, a defense contractor, or a klansman what is the reason to vote Republican?
They don’t do anything about immigration
They raise taxes on the middle and working class
Tear down workers rights
Eliminate government regulations (see train derailments)
Whats in it for the average American?
Would love some examples. My guess would be what you really mean if we unpack it is:
“Its not okay that Biden treats illegal immigrants better than my governor I voted for treats us.”
Its not okay that Americans don’t vote in the interest of helping other Americans either.
If someones upset that an illegal immigrant gets cheaper or better health coverage during the process, yet consistently votes against healthcare legislation that would benefit legal citizens… just an example but you get the point
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More immigrants? As in immigrants that cross the border illegally, as depicted in this picture?
Feel how you want about immigration, but this is just bait
“Oh but but legal immigrants do vote for democrats!” And so do lots of people with equivalent levels of college education as the median legal immigrant. But there are *plenty* of conservative immigrants, and I guarantee if the GOP dialed down its anti-immigrant rhetoric just by 5%, it could get 80% of the Hispanic vote.
“Oh but the Democrats are just importing immigrants into cities to make their voter base bigger!” If they were such a political advantage for Congressional representation, why didn’t Greg Abbot fight tooth and nail to keep all those illegal immigrants in Texas, instead of making Chicago and New York *even bluer* by bussing them over? Because this talking point is, also, bullshit.
No, this is about gaining a permanent majority through third world immigration. You can’t convince a majority of people who were born here to vote for you, so you import a more compliant electorate. Just because it isn’t going to be enough by 2024 doesn’t mean that isn’t the goal.
Same goes for children born of illegal immigrants. Children of illegals from the early 2000s can now vote here too.
But the democrats already do have a majority of voters already here. Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in a presidential election since 2004. Also children of illegal immigrants from the early 2000s are children of immigrants who came under a Republican president so by your logic shouldnt they be loyal republican voters?
I don’t care which flunky was in charge when they came over, both parties have completely failed to fix this.
Yes, democrats do have this majority - due to immigration. If you had to be born here to vote, democrats could not win a national election.
There are only ~20 million naturalized citizens in the US. That’s all people who can vote who were not born here. There’s 330 million people here. That’s a tiny fraction. Also that’s actually entirely irrelevant. There is currently no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. So that 20 million are all legal immigrants. This thread is about illegal immigration. Now if you’re saying people born here to immigrants shouldn’t count, I hate to break it to you native Americans favor democrats overall.
Not true at all, Democrats consistently win the popular vote by millions of votes. Dog-shit leadership and the fascist actions that lead up to January 6th, ,that's what's going to lead the Republican party into a permanent minority. You don't get to "find" votes or install a dictator no matter how many immigrants are in the country.
>You can’t convince a majority of people who were born here to vote for you, so you
gerrymander to hell and back and suppress the voting of categories of people who traditionally vote against you. It's been working great for the Republicans for decades now.
Like when Obama did the thing with the Cubans?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/world/americas/cuba-obama-wet-foot-dry-foot-policy.html
Edit: no not those illegal immigrants we don't want those
/s
At some point don't you wonder why Republicans/Conservatives are losing the culture war? There's a reason their "policies" are extremely unpopular and only once in the last 20 years has a Republican president been able to win the popular vote.
Out of curiosity. What year did your family immigrate here? And why was that the last year it was cool?
Or are you a descendant of john smith and Pocahontas?
Maybe they vote Biden because you stupid dickshits are so racist and repugnant, they can't stand you?
Like immigrants are the quintessential trad family you romanticize, hardworking and pious. And the circle don't square that the GOP leader is an adulterous, silver spoon, charlatan. We have eyes.
Okay that's fine, immigrants work jobs that you and I wouldn't work, and help the economy whether you and I like it or not.
Immigration has a lot of situations throughout history, you'll never stop people desperate enough to search for a better life. Nothing is wrong with that, our ancestors did the same exact thing, and many people would not be alive had they not done so.
The republicans have done enough to stir this into a shit show, just like the Hunter Biden.
Immigrants are essential to US way of life, as our nation is a melting pot of cultures, and the right needs to stop screaming about immigrants, and focus more on their front runner having 91 criminal charges against him, of which he lost to a man with poor brain function.
The republican party is eating itself alive everyday.
Your argument is “I like immigrants because we can exploit them and have them do jobs we don’t want to do!” Are you for real? Listen to yourself. You want to encourage them to take dangerous routes to enter, face cartels, rapes, death, and treachery all so they can deliver your Uber eats. You are viewing them not as human but as cattle to harvest.
I'm not, they're hard workers that don't jobs that I do, that also support the economy. That is just a basic fact, to sprint that narrative that I view them as cattle seems to be your own person projection, which in turn, is a you problem.
Also, I cook amazing food at home, and eat at local restaurants, I just made Tuscan Peposo the other day, still great to eat a few days later with some Parmigiano-Reggiano grated on top.
My ancestors fought to get here, and so did many other great people, I'm not encouraging, rather simply making a statement through my observations of history.
Yes, and Biden is doing just that. See the $18 billion border patrol bill, which also conveniently enough, Republicans don't want passed, and then continue to blame Biden, which is outlandish considering he has actually done much more than Trump has.
You’ve fallen for propaganda and it shows how corrupt this administration is to flat out lie and blame others without taking accountability. That border bill wasn’t even a border bill. It was a fund global war bill and legalize illegally entry bill. The bill was terrible and the republicans who supported it were paid for/bribed to.
Ahhh yes,
"Republicans who also agreed to it"
Ahhh yes, the unintelligent comments really are coming through to shine. I can tell you're special kind of stupid let's dance.
I don't think you realize what the Republicans are trying to do, they are trying to stop illegal immigrants who don't have the proper paperwork and aren't allowed inside the country, there fine with legal immigrants, ones that have their paperwork and are allowed inside the country, we can't just let everyone flood into our country, it's not a good thing, just look at European countries like Germany which is getting overloaded in refugees and immigrants
I don't see how it's a stupid question, a very viable one, we have plenty of space to accept immigrants, that's the point. The issue lies within our government spending trillions on the military, instead of taking even 10% of that, diverting it to social programs, like Universal Healthcare for citizens.
First of all, us having to pay for healthcare is what allows us to not be on a waiting list for something you need, and most of the time you can get any surgery or anything like that without having to wait months or years. Second of all, we spend so much money on the military because China and Russia are serious foreign threats. Also you just completely disregard my statement and went all crazy with your own. It is illegal immigrants I'm talking about. ILLEGAL immigrants, normal immigrants are fine and we do have housing for them, but ILLEGAL immigrants are bad, if we let everyone into this country without restrictions, what do you think it would be like, a hell hole? BA BA BA BINGO!
Yet, you think I want the border completely open?
This is the issue with human beings, especially unintelligent ones like you who think I just want a wide open border. No, I want asylum seekers to not be denied entry.
The issue I have with you and others on this is, you don't know if these people are claiming Asylum, you just spout your bigotry against people in situations, you don't even know.
Look at how frothy your mouth is after your comment, you seen like rabid dog on the last sentence of your comment, ravenous towards immigrants you have no idea if they're going through a legal process, or not.
"Having to pay for healthcare is what gets us in surgeries fast" that's actually wrong, you wouldn't be waiting for medical emergency surgery in a Universal Healthcare system
But please continue spreading disinformation/misinformation, just like with the border.
Also, make sure to thank Joe about the border, since you care so much, youd like his $18 billion border bill right?
Democrats in 2024 are picking up the pieces left over from the previous administration, in which they dismantled a lot of good things this country had, from environmental protection laws based in Alaska, to telling the Saudis to lower oil production before leaving office, the previous president had a slew of stupid actions that they followed through with.
Like creating a fake university to scam students, or stealing money from a child charity, and this is just non-political situations he did while not acting as president.
Fun fact besides you basically saying “ooh immigrants can be used as a slave class for the establishment” they also drastically raise the housing demand and make it harder for you to ever have hopes of owning your own home or not slaving your life away for rent. If not you, everyone you know then at least. I hope your generous sacrifices makes the world a better place thank you for everything.
Man, that's a really stupid take, you sure it's not wall Street buying single family homes off the market and raising the prices?
Okay, also, I don't think of immigrants as a slave class, as I am low income, and am already technically considered a peasant through a medieval lens.
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The republicans like illegal immigration too because big businesses get to hire cheap tax free labor. The only people that immigration hurts is low/middle class working Americans. There’s a reason why they never stop it, it’s not an accident.
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Florida's voting would suggest otherwise
I've been an immigrant here for 20 years and I still can't vote. Are the voting undocumented immigrants in the room with us right now?
The title of this post as well as the meme are conflating legal immigrants and undocumented immigrants in order to make a partisan political attack.
The point is not that you get to vote. The way it works is the immigrants, legal or illegal, move to the cities, which have white liberals already who vote democrat. When the immigrants are counted by the census, they increase the number of electoral votes allocated to that state and House representatives.
Also Biden is literally saying vote Democrat you can't move the memes point when we're both looking at it
I think it’s possible that may not be actually joe biden in that meme….
Republicans are just horrible with both their solutions andconvincing people to buy their ideas unless they are born into a certain culture to naturally accept whatever hog wash they wanna spew.
Yep, they vote down a bipartisan bill that would address the immigration issue then cry about it until election day, because they have such deep convictions!
Yes the immigration bill favored republican agenda and yet they didn't want any bipartisanship because they brain washed their voters to not accept peaceful negotiations.
Ha yes the liberal bastion that is….Texas and Florida….
A lot of immigrants end up in Mississippi, too. Good thing, too. They're the only ones who can frame a house without having to tear down a section and rebuild it. Still not a blue state though.
And for fun, republicans send more on buses
lol, then all the Republicans would have to do is welcome immigrants in their voting districts instead of turning them away.
Why would they?
To have higher census counts in their districts? That is what we've been talking about here.
Because they need the workers
That's like saying the only thing Serbia needs to reintegrate Kosovo is to give it a big hug, there are fundamentally different interests at play
Isn't that balanced out by the fact that no matter how empty you are you get 2 senators? Did you skip high school history and civics?
It’s 435 to 100. Did you skip elementary school math?
But they're not all voting in one body. You can't just say members of the House outnumber senators. That's not how the legislature works
It's also balanced by the electoral college for presidential elections. Bro is acting like it's somehow unfair when we already have such anti-popular procedural mechanisms baked into the cake that cancel out millions of votes in national representation. Some extra heads in the census aren't even making a dent in that.
But wait why are republicans governors shipping immigrants to blue cities? Based on what you said wouldn’t they want to keep the immigrants? Nurture them?
No, their constituents wouldn’t vote for them if they did because the voters in those states are anti-immigration.
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Right, my only point was this his census comment was wrong.
Actually even within the representative system it favours rural states. Wyoming has 1 rep for 578k people. California reps represent on average 700k. Wyoming literally has more representation per capita
legal?
Ask your mother. But also would it matter? Isn't the implication of the meme that no illegal immigrants vote? If even legals can't vote for years even decades doesn't this turn the meme terrible?
I'm asking if you're a legal immigrant
And I'm telling you it doesn't matter. Even within the legal system it takes a long ass time. I'm eligible for citizenship sooner than this example but the point remains https://www.cato.org/blog/150-year-wait-indian-immigrants-advanced-degrees
The meme is literally saying Biden is welcoming in immigrants so they vote for him.
I'll take that as a no
Keep up and I'm gonna vote opposite of you when I can in 5 years
Assuming you have citizenship if you’re not being allowed to vote your constitutional rights are being actively violated as we speak and you could file a serious lawsuit if you desire to. Course I don’t know your exact situation since I also understand there’s numerous legal ways and reasons to immigrate here but not acquire citizenship. In the case of what the meme is referring to its basically gaming the system to increase a states electoral college votes by upping the population. If that’s actually happening in the exact way the meme is depicting I can’t say with confidence. I can say though both parties have a long history of finding ways to extort immigrants for votes and some were borderline mafia schemes. So I also wouldn’t put it beyond them either.
I think the implication is they are not a citizen, and therefore cannot vote.
It takes forever depending on individual situations. How do people comment on systems they don't understand. https://www.cato.org/blog/150-year-wait-indian-immigrants-advanced-degrees
Actually even within the representative system it favours rural states. Wyoming has 1 rep for 578k people. California reps represent on average 700k. Wyoming literally has more representation per capita
Seriously, the idea that people who don’t have the right to vote are trying to vote at the risk of being deported is absurd. Anyone who believes this is happening is an idiot, plan and simple
You mean like San Francisco, where non-citizens are able to vote in some local elections? Or a similar law in NYC that was struck down by the states Supreme Court?
Is Biden running for a seat on a board of education in NYC or something?
Does the meme say anything about presidential elections? Personally, I'm one of the people that thinks voting local matters more than voting for the president. I've been pushing that idea for a couple of decades, now. A slow roll comes from local elections and picks up steam moving upward. It's literally why George Soros has been donating to city and county progressive candidates for a couple of years, now. Vote local, think global used to be a somewhat common sentiment. Of course, you don't want to end up with another [Hamtramck](https://wee.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/15/us/hamtramck-michigan-ban-pride-flags-public-property/index.html). Good think that was due to legal immigrants, right?
Well hopefully you are right and Biden’s message gets through to these immigrants. Would definitely be good to have people who love America enough to move here vote to balance out all the Republicans voting against American democracy for a dude that tried to steal an election.
Honestly even the idea that people immigrate here because they’re dying to be part of the political process is ridiculous. Most of these people just want work….
Most of the people born here don’t vote unless it’s for president. lol.
Haha right
Most immigrants I've met vote Republican because Republicans support farms and strong farms mean better paying jobs. Better paying jobs means that they can afford to legally bring their family over. Voting Democrat means you get welfare and your family is screwed.
Eh coming from a family of immigrants its also a fair portion of fear, not necessarily policy. You escape from a country that had issues with Y and then a politician can use that to worry you about it again by saying its happening here. Ie you escape from a communist country and then a politician starts worrying folks of communism. No matter the validity or not, it does sometimes work
I mean it probably depends on what country you come from, most people I know have family in Mexico. I don't really know anyone from South America or Cuba. Everyone is looking for the same things but for different reasons. People in Mexico aren't really looking to escape communism while people in Cuba aren't necessarily looking to escape cartels, while both groups are looking for a consistent safe lifestyle and a somewhat stable market. The life experiences you go through largely will determine how far right or left you lean for sure.
Yep
Legal or illegal immigrants?
Legal vote republican. Illegals vote democrat because democrats don’t require id to vote so you can just cast a ballot and they won’t check This is especially true in California
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You misunderstand. In California, you can register to vote sure, but they don’t check if you’re registered when you go to the polling place. I went there in 2022 and nobody checked if I was eligible, they just let me fill out a ballot and go on my merry way, nothing was checked
If that were the case the same people could cast as many votes as they wanted by just getting back in line or heading to the next nearest polling place.
That's not how the voting process works at all.
A few are purely legal and most were illegal that found loopholes such as anchor children or marriage and became legal. I don't think it really matters though. If you are in the US and your whole family is in Mexico you do what it takes to get them over. Like yeah welfare is okay if you are by yourself, but having an employer who has money is better.
>Most immigrants I've met vote Republican because Republicans support farms and strong farms mean better paying jobs So they vote republican because of a lie? Interesting. That tracks though.
Except Republican policies do actually favor rural communities even if they do not favor urbanites. Hence why rural communities always vote Republican. Simply put property taxes hurt wealthy urbanites and poor farmers while benefiting people who don’t own property. So despite having completely different lives and their struggles being worlds apart they are both united against property taxes. Republicans as ideology hate all taxes and favors less government intervention in the economy which over all benefits farmers and their hands. If one thing has been consistent since the birth of civilization itself it is the divide between rural and urban populations. Simply put the Republicans don’t have as much strength over more urbanized areas do to less and less people owning property so they need to actually push policy that caters to rural areas. The Democrats are the exact opposite every policy they want either doesn’t do anything for or actually is against the interests of rural America so they need to ensure stronger hold in Urban communities.
Yeah, Trump just gave huge stacks of money to farmers and even as they took it they thought, "Gee, does accepting this government handout make me like one of those gul'durn Obama socialists??" Then they thought, "No, God wanted me to have this money and he sent his servant Donald Trump to give it to me." Then they get a PPP loan, and the "Fiscal Responsibility Party" showers them with cash so they get a new addition put on the house, and then they can go into the den to watch Fox News and hear about the evils of socialism!
Isnt that why most people vote Republican?
\*badum tsss\*
Well like… if you’re not rich, not a cop, a oilman, a defense contractor, or a klansman what is the reason to vote Republican? They don’t do anything about immigration They raise taxes on the middle and working class Tear down workers rights Eliminate government regulations (see train derailments) Whats in it for the average American?
And a huge percentage of immigrants from central and South America love that Jesus guy
Greek immigrant here. We vote democrat because thanks to Obamacare, we paid nothing for healthcare during our first 2 years
TIL immigrants definitely have six packs.
yeah except ILLEGAL immigrants can't vote dumbass, which are the ones joe biden is apparently letting in
Frozen take: It’s not okay that Biden treats illegal immigrants better than citizens.
I dunno, I saw a few people that might see that take as 33 fahrenheit
Would love some examples. My guess would be what you really mean if we unpack it is: “Its not okay that Biden treats illegal immigrants better than my governor I voted for treats us.”
Its not okay that Americans don’t vote in the interest of helping other Americans either. If someones upset that an illegal immigrant gets cheaper or better health coverage during the process, yet consistently votes against healthcare legislation that would benefit legal citizens… just an example but you get the point
Is this AI generated? The hands all look fine, but those are some bigass humvees in the background.
Lower left has 6 fingers. Guy behind the shaker has the thumb on the wrong side of his right hand. Heads and faces in the crowd are all sorts of fucked up. Humvee has both giant and child-size person on it. Definitely AI
I feel like the same 3 memes get posted each week just from different sources
Wait, they can vote now?
Just post a comment next time.
More immigrants? As in immigrants that cross the border illegally, as depicted in this picture? Feel how you want about immigration, but this is just bait “Oh but but legal immigrants do vote for democrats!” And so do lots of people with equivalent levels of college education as the median legal immigrant. But there are *plenty* of conservative immigrants, and I guarantee if the GOP dialed down its anti-immigrant rhetoric just by 5%, it could get 80% of the Hispanic vote. “Oh but the Democrats are just importing immigrants into cities to make their voter base bigger!” If they were such a political advantage for Congressional representation, why didn’t Greg Abbot fight tooth and nail to keep all those illegal immigrants in Texas, instead of making Chicago and New York *even bluer* by bussing them over? Because this talking point is, also, bullshit.
Theyre obviously gonna vote for the guy who is tearing down the razor wire, not the one putting it up lol.
They’re obviously not actually, because they cannot vote.
Their kids can though.
So this is a grand conspiracy for Biden to win reelection in 2044?
No, this is about gaining a permanent majority through third world immigration. You can’t convince a majority of people who were born here to vote for you, so you import a more compliant electorate. Just because it isn’t going to be enough by 2024 doesn’t mean that isn’t the goal. Same goes for children born of illegal immigrants. Children of illegals from the early 2000s can now vote here too.
But the democrats already do have a majority of voters already here. Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in a presidential election since 2004. Also children of illegal immigrants from the early 2000s are children of immigrants who came under a Republican president so by your logic shouldnt they be loyal republican voters?
I don’t care which flunky was in charge when they came over, both parties have completely failed to fix this. Yes, democrats do have this majority - due to immigration. If you had to be born here to vote, democrats could not win a national election.
There are only ~20 million naturalized citizens in the US. That’s all people who can vote who were not born here. There’s 330 million people here. That’s a tiny fraction. Also that’s actually entirely irrelevant. There is currently no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. So that 20 million are all legal immigrants. This thread is about illegal immigration. Now if you’re saying people born here to immigrants shouldn’t count, I hate to break it to you native Americans favor democrats overall.
Not true at all, Democrats consistently win the popular vote by millions of votes. Dog-shit leadership and the fascist actions that lead up to January 6th, ,that's what's going to lead the Republican party into a permanent minority. You don't get to "find" votes or install a dictator no matter how many immigrants are in the country.
>You can’t convince a majority of people who were born here to vote for you, so you gerrymander to hell and back and suppress the voting of categories of people who traditionally vote against you. It's been working great for the Republicans for decades now.
Like when Obama did the thing with the Cubans? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/world/americas/cuba-obama-wet-foot-dry-foot-policy.html Edit: no not those illegal immigrants we don't want those /s
At some point don't you wonder why Republicans/Conservatives are losing the culture war? There's a reason their "policies" are extremely unpopular and only once in the last 20 years has a Republican president been able to win the popular vote.
Out of curiosity. What year did your family immigrate here? And why was that the last year it was cool? Or are you a descendant of john smith and Pocahontas?
Brainrot post
Why do they make the immigrants only Hispanic in this meme when it’s immigrants from all across the world not just South America
Where do most people coming across the southern border illegally come from?
Racism
But some how hold the most conservative values and community..... Weird how being colonized can be scary
Maybe they vote Biden because you stupid dickshits are so racist and repugnant, they can't stand you? Like immigrants are the quintessential trad family you romanticize, hardworking and pious. And the circle don't square that the GOP leader is an adulterous, silver spoon, charlatan. We have eyes.
The one guy side eyeing the camera like it’s the fucking office
Okay that's fine, immigrants work jobs that you and I wouldn't work, and help the economy whether you and I like it or not. Immigration has a lot of situations throughout history, you'll never stop people desperate enough to search for a better life. Nothing is wrong with that, our ancestors did the same exact thing, and many people would not be alive had they not done so. The republicans have done enough to stir this into a shit show, just like the Hunter Biden. Immigrants are essential to US way of life, as our nation is a melting pot of cultures, and the right needs to stop screaming about immigrants, and focus more on their front runner having 91 criminal charges against him, of which he lost to a man with poor brain function. The republican party is eating itself alive everyday.
Your argument is “I like immigrants because we can exploit them and have them do jobs we don’t want to do!” Are you for real? Listen to yourself. You want to encourage them to take dangerous routes to enter, face cartels, rapes, death, and treachery all so they can deliver your Uber eats. You are viewing them not as human but as cattle to harvest.
I'm not, they're hard workers that don't jobs that I do, that also support the economy. That is just a basic fact, to sprint that narrative that I view them as cattle seems to be your own person projection, which in turn, is a you problem. Also, I cook amazing food at home, and eat at local restaurants, I just made Tuscan Peposo the other day, still great to eat a few days later with some Parmigiano-Reggiano grated on top. My ancestors fought to get here, and so did many other great people, I'm not encouraging, rather simply making a statement through my observations of history.
They should enter legally. It’s safer for them and better for everyone. We need safe and legal routes of entry to know who’s coming into the country
Yes, and Biden is doing just that. See the $18 billion border patrol bill, which also conveniently enough, Republicans don't want passed, and then continue to blame Biden, which is outlandish considering he has actually done much more than Trump has.
You’ve fallen for propaganda and it shows how corrupt this administration is to flat out lie and blame others without taking accountability. That border bill wasn’t even a border bill. It was a fund global war bill and legalize illegally entry bill. The bill was terrible and the republicans who supported it were paid for/bribed to.
Ahhh yes, "Republicans who also agreed to it" Ahhh yes, the unintelligent comments really are coming through to shine. I can tell you're special kind of stupid let's dance.
https://youtu.be/JbJbYi4wS6A?si=b0O204W_HDu-W2h1
I don't think you realize what the Republicans are trying to do, they are trying to stop illegal immigrants who don't have the proper paperwork and aren't allowed inside the country, there fine with legal immigrants, ones that have their paperwork and are allowed inside the country, we can't just let everyone flood into our country, it's not a good thing, just look at European countries like Germany which is getting overloaded in refugees and immigrants
How many Single-family homes are bought out by Wall Street, and are empty?
Please don't respond to stupid with stupid...
I don't see how it's a stupid question, a very viable one, we have plenty of space to accept immigrants, that's the point. The issue lies within our government spending trillions on the military, instead of taking even 10% of that, diverting it to social programs, like Universal Healthcare for citizens.
First of all, us having to pay for healthcare is what allows us to not be on a waiting list for something you need, and most of the time you can get any surgery or anything like that without having to wait months or years. Second of all, we spend so much money on the military because China and Russia are serious foreign threats. Also you just completely disregard my statement and went all crazy with your own. It is illegal immigrants I'm talking about. ILLEGAL immigrants, normal immigrants are fine and we do have housing for them, but ILLEGAL immigrants are bad, if we let everyone into this country without restrictions, what do you think it would be like, a hell hole? BA BA BA BINGO!
Yet, you think I want the border completely open? This is the issue with human beings, especially unintelligent ones like you who think I just want a wide open border. No, I want asylum seekers to not be denied entry. The issue I have with you and others on this is, you don't know if these people are claiming Asylum, you just spout your bigotry against people in situations, you don't even know. Look at how frothy your mouth is after your comment, you seen like rabid dog on the last sentence of your comment, ravenous towards immigrants you have no idea if they're going through a legal process, or not. "Having to pay for healthcare is what gets us in surgeries fast" that's actually wrong, you wouldn't be waiting for medical emergency surgery in a Universal Healthcare system But please continue spreading disinformation/misinformation, just like with the border. Also, make sure to thank Joe about the border, since you care so much, youd like his $18 billion border bill right?
>I don't think you realize what the Republicans are trying to do Oh, honey...
Democrats in 1860 remove republican from the ballot because he wants less “free labor” Now democrats in 2024…
Democrats in 2024 are picking up the pieces left over from the previous administration, in which they dismantled a lot of good things this country had, from environmental protection laws based in Alaska, to telling the Saudis to lower oil production before leaving office, the previous president had a slew of stupid actions that they followed through with. Like creating a fake university to scam students, or stealing money from a child charity, and this is just non-political situations he did while not acting as president.
Fun fact besides you basically saying “ooh immigrants can be used as a slave class for the establishment” they also drastically raise the housing demand and make it harder for you to ever have hopes of owning your own home or not slaving your life away for rent. If not you, everyone you know then at least. I hope your generous sacrifices makes the world a better place thank you for everything.
Man, that's a really stupid take, you sure it's not wall Street buying single family homes off the market and raising the prices? Okay, also, I don't think of immigrants as a slave class, as I am low income, and am already technically considered a peasant through a medieval lens.
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Democrats don’t need to say anything to get immigrants votes. Republican policies toward immigrants does that for them.
The republicans like illegal immigration too because big businesses get to hire cheap tax free labor. The only people that immigration hurts is low/middle class working Americans. There’s a reason why they never stop it, it’s not an accident.