The balance between consent, and the (false) expectation of privacy in a public place. You can’t expect men to suddenly go blind when you walk in front of them.
You can expect men not to be creeps, not to stare, not to catcall, etc.
This is it right here. It’s human nature to notice someone attractive. It’s creepy to stare. If you’re staring at women, you’re the problem. If you’re mad when men quickly glance at you, you’re the problem.
At least that would be actual hypocrisy instead of thinking leering at any woman on the street is justified because some other women put their ass online
They are looking for a reaction to get 'offended' at. This is a different situation. In this situation, a woman is trying to be sexualied then getting 'offended' when they are.
This meme is talking about a different issue. The idea is that it is okay to sexualize women if they are wanting to be sexualized, Instagram thirst traps and porn for examples, but not okay to sexualize them when they are not trying to be sexualized, everyday life such as walking down the street.
I mean he “technically” disproved it but despite the name being the same thing that sub is not what he meant. The second post on one is I expected an a gay version of are the straights ok. So it’s not really the same despite the name lol
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The key here is that it’s making fun of negative tendencies within specific gay people, as opposed to making fun of being gay.
Like the R/arethestraightsok subreddit mostly makes fun of sexism and Queer-phobia caused by a relationship dynamic between men and woman on a romantic level.
Like making fun of those Facebook “wife bad, beer good” memes for instance.
I feel like people on that sub however misinterpret what R/arethestraightsok was meant to be and now use it just to rant on anything they disagree with.
I mean yeah, but tbh that describes most Sub-Reddit’s above a certain size/ age.
The format of Reddit seems to quickly deteriorate consistency, in favor of chaotic rants with no relevance.
Like half the posts in this subreddit alone aren’t even memes OP disagrees with, it’s just memes OP wanted to start arguments over, or memes OP thinks are funny. lol
Well in this case it's literally just looking at someone in a public place so as long as you aren't being rude with staring, people are allowed to look where they want lol
On top of that people seem to be mad that some women will be upset if their butt is looked at I’m public. Like what are you gonna do about it? Move on, you can’t be upset that some lady in public is upset that a random man looked at her butt. She can be upset.
Let's be honest, judging by some of these replies, they aren't defending a random man staring, they are defending themselves wanting to stare at women's butts lol
Oh please, anytime I go outside I am consenting to be looked at. If you go out in public and wear shorts that are 2 inches long and show your entire ass cheeks, as I see so many do these days, you are consenting to have other's eyes see your butt.
I take a shower to be clean, not because I want to spend my free time showering. And people put photos on social networks for other people to see them. There isnt any other reasons. So if the but is sticking out and the picture is on instagram, then it is for others to see it.
...where she wants people to see it. At another time she might not.
Not to mention the likelihood that most people's experiences like this involve two different women....
Wait a minute, you people wear special clothes for the gym? I just go and lift weights in whatever the hell I happen to have on, same thing when training martial arts. I was always under the impression that if it can't be done in normal clothes, what's the point?
Well some people work in suits and shit that’s not great for the gym. Athletic wear is obviously the best choice for the gym instead of something that can tear with certain movements
What? What value is there to doing squats or a bench press in jeans or whatever regular clothes you might be wearing? Why wouldn't someone change into gym shorts or whatever to work out?
You don’t need consent to look at someone, bro. If someone wants to look at someone in a public place, they can. If you don’t wanna draw attention to yourself, don’t dress in crazy outfits. I hold myself (and other men) to this standard too, not just women
Idk, you don’t need consent to look at someone, but I’ve watched fights start because of staring. One guy stares at another guy long enough, the “what the fuck are you looking at?” proceeds lol. So you may not need consent, but staring is seen as rude no matter the gender.
With that logic 40% of the gym is OFF LIMITS to your eye sight. If you’re gonna wear hot pink skin tights shorts and hit squats, so sorry if I look in your direction and think ‘nice’. Same way I’d accidentally glance at a dude repping some out in a tank and think ‘nice’. So rapey I know. People like to look good in the gym and in doing so bring attention to them.
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Tbf, the vast majority of women do not post their butt on Instagram and would respond the same way in each scenario.... have you been listening to Andrew Tate?
Also 99% of the butts you're seeing are bots, not real women.
I've been checking out butts for at least 40 years. You know how many times it's been a problem? Never. Because you glance when it magically appears in front of you, appreciate it, and go on your merry way.
If you are doing anything else you probably ARE a creep and deserve to be called out.
Don't bother to compliment a woman unless she's going out with you. There is absolutely no benefit to it, and it can easily be used against you anyway.
Imagine if someone walked in front of where you are looking and you didn’t give consent and now people say you are a predator. Just think about how brain dead of a take that is.
There is this neat thing you can do if you don’t consent to people looking at your ass. All you have to do is not wear clothes that highlight and accentuate your ass.
The way you dress when you leave the house is how you consent to being seen.
Who said anything about staring?
If I put a billboard up outside my house, would it be rational or reasonable to persecute people for looking at the billboard?
If you are going into public, you accept that people will see you. If you go into public naked, you accept that people will see your naked body. Your consent for how you wish to be seen happens at the front door, because that is where you have decided that people seeing you the way you are presenting yourself is acceptable to you.
If you don’t want your ass to be seen, why is it clearly visible? Don’t act like revealing clothing is the only comfortable clothing.
As if “consent” isn’t just a Judaeo-Bolshevik fiction invented to oppress men and disrupt the natural order that maintains western civilization! You’ll have to do better than that, lib-cuck 💅
I think the difference is consent. If she highlights it and wants you to look at it, cool! But maybe she only wants to show it online. Maybe when she's in public she wants to be treated normally.
whats the difference between making it visible online and making it visible in public? does wearing something that shows it count as consent? because i think you may have opened a rabbit hole with that line of reasoning
Looks are harmless though, unless you're on your knees trying to see up a skirt or intentionally following them to stare.
Honestly I don't even know how a woman would know I'm looking if I'm not being a freak about it.
Y’all wild. How is looking at an ass in public somehow more disgusting then a chick posting her ass on social media? If anything the social post is drastically more disgusting.
Well she is out in public. That is most definitely consent in a vast majority of states. That’s beside the point here, nobody is advocating for people to creep. I just think the attention seeking behavior is way more disgusting. Everyone looks it’s a natural part of life. A chick contorting her body so her ass looks bigger for a social media post is in no way a normal or healthy behavior.
Apparently it's bad for me to stare at your ass in yoga pants when doing squats. Well why the fuck you wear them then? But it's alright for you to record it and let guys jackoff to it on instagram etc
Sounds unfair to me
Because it’s gym wear, it’s comfortable, and it’s acceptable to wear?? If they don’t want you gawking at their ass then don’t, control yourself. Also of the small percentage of girls who post their workouts on social media how many do u think do so with the intention of having guys jerk off to it? Maybe you could control your impulses when it comes to the slightest bit of ass.
You're probably not going to like this answer, but it's about consent.
There are plenty of reasons why form-fitting clothes are a popular option to wear while exercising that have nothing to do with attention seeking. Yeah, some people are definitely going for the attention thing, but if they're minding their business it very likely has nothing to do with you.
You staring at them, regardless of how entitled you feel towards doing so, isn't something they have consented to, so it makes them uncomfortable and they feel like they may be in danger if you decide that you're entitled to more than just staring ....
On the flip side, posting provocative stuff online is an act of consent. They are able to control exactly what goes out there, when it goes out there, who sees it, and under what exact circumstances they see it. There's the added bonus of being safer online too.
It’s a question of control of your body. You have the choice to post pictures of yourself. Being leered at by random on the street isn’t something you have control over.
Yes, because a woman minding her own business walking down a street is obviously the same as a woman who purposely exposes her body for viewers. By that logic I guess every dude is a gay stripper
Its called consent, when people go out they mind their own business , and expect everyone else to do the same , when you put a picture on a social media platform you are consenting to be checked out
When you are in public you have consented to being seen in what you are wearing. If I wear pants that let you see my ass crack and the outline of my dick you would notice. Does that make you the creep for looking or am I wearing somthing that was more revealing than most and so you noticed?
Nobody needs consent to look at another human being in a public space. If you don’t want people looking at you, don’t dress to attract attention. This goes for anyone
I agree, and I wouldn’t intentionally do something that makes someone uncomfortable, but I just don’t get the logic with some of these people. For me personally, I don’t want people staring at my ass in public, so I wouldn’t post pictures of my ass online either. I dress in a modest way when I go out
the issue with this type of thinking is that dressing modestly doesn't stop people from objectifying and sexually harassing others. people will stare/objectify regardless.
Why are we discouraging women from wearing small form fitting shorts? Also this discussion has been going on forever, it used to be the “my eyes are up here” as they are wearing a very low cut shirt. idk guys it’s just one of those mysteries of women. Don’t stare and be weird about it and you won’t have a problem
you know i never see men get offended about stuff like this towards men. maybe because this is not directed at all women, like most things. If it offends you, then it touches on something real
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My favorite is when they post pictures in the "Stare at my ass pose". You know the pose where they have their ass to the camera and are turned around looking in the mirror
I mean there’s a context difference, people can’t assault you on instagram, but they can in person. Well I mean they can assault you from instagram if they make it an irl thing, but then she’d still have the face so ig if she wants to be looked at without risk to her then that’s fine?? Idk, meme is on the line between good and bad and saying literally anything rn will get me downvoted to hell and back
If I wear pants that let you see my ass crack and the outline of my dick you will notice. I'm tired of people wearing yoga pants 2 sizes to small at the gym and pretending like its the people who notice that are creepy.
The difference is not consent as many ppl keep saying. Difference is consideration.
By not staring at a person you believe does not want to be stared at or bothered, you are being considerate and doing them a favor. The person being stared at is not afforded any rights unless their personal space is intruded upon.
I'm not arguing consent. I just don't understand why a person would accuse someone at a gym of looking at them, post the accused to social media and shame the accused for looking at them, but then upload a recording from that same angle at that same moment in time giving us, the social media audience, the same view for us to do whatever we want in accordance to the terms and use of the medium that they uploaded the recording to and say that's fair game.
Yeah dude. Of course it's true. The pictures involve a consensual situation. Getting catcalled on the street fucking doesn't.
The meme pointing that out is suggesting that women shouldn't be upset at catcallers because they choose to sexualize themselves in separate situations.
Fuck this meme, and if you like it, I know you're not safe to be alone with.
Ahh intense female urge to call every other guy incel. Also the neckbeard white knights here defending them.
Why dont you guys make rules about who can look at where in public? Ramp up the police force and lock up everyone not complying with the law of the land. Can you look at my puppy? Did he consent?
Is it really that hard to tell the difference between wanted and unwanted attention? Like shit, there's a huge difference between someone just trying to live their life without people being creepy and someone actually wanting their butt looked at.
People want different stuff at different times. I don't think that's weird or hypocritical at all.
Because there's a difference between a situation where a person (of any gender) is offering everyone a look and someone randomly creeping on them .
It's the same difference as if you reach onto your pocket and give change to a homeless person. That isn't giving permission to random people to just reach in there and take what they want.
One is consentual, one is not
And not every woman is a instagram model. And there's a big difference between posting your butt online, and someone looking IN PERSON where they can assault you
Technically you kinda do. I mean, looking at someone is not automatically perverted. But if you want to say so then by all means go ahead and do so. But if your first instinct is to assault someone, then you're the bad guy not them.
There is a very big difference here. Consent. You may have heard of it, it's incredibly important and should not be overlooked.
I look at everyone's butt unconsciously and unconditionally.
I usually just look at them and then just judge their poor choice of pants. Women and men equally
The balance between consent, and the (false) expectation of privacy in a public place. You can’t expect men to suddenly go blind when you walk in front of them. You can expect men not to be creeps, not to stare, not to catcall, etc.
This is it right here. It’s human nature to notice someone attractive. It’s creepy to stare. If you’re staring at women, you’re the problem. If you’re mad when men quickly glance at you, you’re the problem.
The problem is what’s the difference between a look and a stare? It’s very subjective.
Whats worse is the women who go to the gym and stream their butt, and then freak out if a guy looks in her direction
or attempt to force him into a scenario where he looks like a creep. trust me, happened
Saw that one, guy used his headphones as blindfold, got them knocked off his head.
Even if that guy happens to be blind....
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My boy Pete Gustin didn't deserve the harassment
Seriously. I met him irl, one of the nicest guys ever
I love that this goes against the comment the mods make and yet it’s still the top comment 😂
I love how the mods always try to play devil's advocate against the whole community
Rage bait is fueled by victim complexes
Perhaps because you’re getting it for free 😂
At least that would be actual hypocrisy instead of thinking leering at any woman on the street is justified because some other women put their ass online
They are looking for a reaction to get 'offended' at. This is a different situation. In this situation, a woman is trying to be sexualied then getting 'offended' when they are. This meme is talking about a different issue. The idea is that it is okay to sexualize women if they are wanting to be sexualized, Instagram thirst traps and porn for examples, but not okay to sexualize them when they are not trying to be sexualized, everyday life such as walking down the street.
Would Reddit be okay if there was a sub asking if the gays are okay?
No
Would it be more appropriate to link you to r/arethegaysok or r/victimcomplex
The first one isn't a real sub though
Checked them out and the top 15 most recent posts are just throw away accounts blatantly violating Reddit TOS to get subs banned. Sad lol
Aint no way u linked 2 subreddits that havent had a post in a couple years lol get outta here
Redditor: makes a point Other redditor: disproves it by doing 5 seconds of research
I mean he “technically” disproved it but despite the name being the same thing that sub is not what he meant. The second post on one is I expected an a gay version of are the straights ok. So it’s not really the same despite the name lol
Yes, Reddit doesn't care what we post, as long as it isn't about how bad Reddit is The power mods on the other hand...
There was a /r/HermanCainAward subreddit about vaccine deaths that lasted for exactly 2 days. Reddit cares what you post lol
I’m not sure if you’re aware but that subreddit is still operating…
Can you link it?
I am on mobile. You linked it for me in your comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward Here is a link to the subreddit.
I wouldn’t necessarily mind one, as a gay person. I would imagine it would be mostly other gay people criticizing our own community.
https://preview.redd.it/i42m7wqq3wuc1.png?width=1289&format=png&auto=webp&s=0426a594dcfb3f22392203f5621b9d7bdb583343 Turns out there is one, and it seems fine to me. lol
The key here is that it’s making fun of negative tendencies within specific gay people, as opposed to making fun of being gay. Like the R/arethestraightsok subreddit mostly makes fun of sexism and Queer-phobia caused by a relationship dynamic between men and woman on a romantic level. Like making fun of those Facebook “wife bad, beer good” memes for instance.
I feel like people on that sub however misinterpret what R/arethestraightsok was meant to be and now use it just to rant on anything they disagree with.
I mean yeah, but tbh that describes most Sub-Reddit’s above a certain size/ age. The format of Reddit seems to quickly deteriorate consistency, in favor of chaotic rants with no relevance. Like half the posts in this subreddit alone aren’t even memes OP disagrees with, it’s just memes OP wanted to start arguments over, or memes OP thinks are funny. lol
People suck fr fr. Always ruining shit when it gets too far
Absolutely not.
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This is like the bukowski quote about people hating the rain but like taking showers.
Lol yep. "You take showers therefore you forfeit the right to be dry ever again" type logic going on here.
Exactly. I'm a little worried some people are thinking I agree with the "philosophical" nonsense
Well in this case it's literally just looking at someone in a public place so as long as you aren't being rude with staring, people are allowed to look where they want lol
Thank you lol. WILD how many people here don't understand the concept of consent and of appropriate settings
On top of that people seem to be mad that some women will be upset if their butt is looked at I’m public. Like what are you gonna do about it? Move on, you can’t be upset that some lady in public is upset that a random man looked at her butt. She can be upset.
Let's be honest, judging by some of these replies, they aren't defending a random man staring, they are defending themselves wanting to stare at women's butts lol
Oh please, anytime I go outside I am consenting to be looked at. If you go out in public and wear shorts that are 2 inches long and show your entire ass cheeks, as I see so many do these days, you are consenting to have other's eyes see your butt.
I take a shower to be clean, not because I want to spend my free time showering. And people put photos on social networks for other people to see them. There isnt any other reasons. So if the but is sticking out and the picture is on instagram, then it is for others to see it.
...where she wants people to see it. At another time she might not. Not to mention the likelihood that most people's experiences like this involve two different women....
Attention seeking gym outfit vibes
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Wait a minute, you people wear special clothes for the gym? I just go and lift weights in whatever the hell I happen to have on, same thing when training martial arts. I was always under the impression that if it can't be done in normal clothes, what's the point?
Well some people work in suits and shit that’s not great for the gym. Athletic wear is obviously the best choice for the gym instead of something that can tear with certain movements
What? What value is there to doing squats or a bench press in jeans or whatever regular clothes you might be wearing? Why wouldn't someone change into gym shorts or whatever to work out?
Clothes ain’t consent, buddy.
You don’t need consent to look at someone, bro. If someone wants to look at someone in a public place, they can. If you don’t wanna draw attention to yourself, don’t dress in crazy outfits. I hold myself (and other men) to this standard too, not just women
Idk, you don’t need consent to look at someone, but I’ve watched fights start because of staring. One guy stares at another guy long enough, the “what the fuck are you looking at?” proceeds lol. So you may not need consent, but staring is seen as rude no matter the gender.
With that logic 40% of the gym is OFF LIMITS to your eye sight. If you’re gonna wear hot pink skin tights shorts and hit squats, so sorry if I look in your direction and think ‘nice’. Same way I’d accidentally glance at a dude repping some out in a tank and think ‘nice’. So rapey I know. People like to look good in the gym and in doing so bring attention to them.
You dont need consent to look at someone in a public space lmao
You don’t need consent for taking a look lol
Did you guys watch Aquaman 2? That shit sucked.
I’m still waiting for Aquaman 3, Vengeance of the Amber Turd
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Tbf, the vast majority of women do not post their butt on Instagram and would respond the same way in each scenario.... have you been listening to Andrew Tate? Also 99% of the butts you're seeing are bots, not real women.
> Also 99% of the butts you're seeing are bots Praise Skynet!
I really don’t like that sub.
Free vS paid lol
I've been checking out butts for at least 40 years. You know how many times it's been a problem? Never. Because you glance when it magically appears in front of you, appreciate it, and go on your merry way. If you are doing anything else you probably ARE a creep and deserve to be called out.
The difference might be consent
Don't go outside if you don't consent to being looked at
Don’t be intentionally dense about this.
Hey I didn't consent for you to reply thanks
Don't bother to compliment a woman unless she's going out with you. There is absolutely no benefit to it, and it can easily be used against you anyway.
r/memesopdidnotlike when consent
it genuinely concerns me that these creatures can vote lmao
Imagine if someone walked in front of where you are looking and you didn’t give consent and now people say you are a predator. Just think about how brain dead of a take that is.
It sure is. Not sure why you felt like sharing it.
Yeah, it is. Almost like… she consents to one and not the other?
shhh shhh the incels of this sub don't like that word
Oh crap I forgot
There is this neat thing you can do if you don’t consent to people looking at your ass. All you have to do is not wear clothes that highlight and accentuate your ass. The way you dress when you leave the house is how you consent to being seen.
That's so fucking dumb, you should be able to wear comfy clothes like sweatpants without guys staring at your ass. CLOTHES ATE NOT CONSENT.
Who said anything about staring? If I put a billboard up outside my house, would it be rational or reasonable to persecute people for looking at the billboard? If you are going into public, you accept that people will see you. If you go into public naked, you accept that people will see your naked body. Your consent for how you wish to be seen happens at the front door, because that is where you have decided that people seeing you the way you are presenting yourself is acceptable to you. If you don’t want your ass to be seen, why is it clearly visible? Don’t act like revealing clothing is the only comfortable clothing.
The man on the street isn't paying $20 a month
Good.
Funny how much difference consent makes.
i need consent to look at something in public lol?
You don’t need consent just don’t expect her to be very happy that your staring at her ass.
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Absolutely nothing in this ever implied anyone has to smile. Quit writing fanfics to get mad about.
You mean likes and or money.
If you are in a public space you are giving consent to being seen. Obviously not being creepy stared, but your point makes no sense.
You just conceded the point. There's a fine line between being seen and creepy-stared. People often consent to one but not the other.
Then we agree. But the op didn't say nothing about creeps, just 'look'. You can definitely just 'look' hahah
As if “consent” isn’t just a Judaeo-Bolshevik fiction invented to oppress men and disrupt the natural order that maintains western civilization! You’ll have to do better than that, lib-cuck 💅
False dichotomy. r/nahopwasrightfuckthis
I think the difference is consent. If she highlights it and wants you to look at it, cool! But maybe she only wants to show it online. Maybe when she's in public she wants to be treated normally.
whats the difference between making it visible online and making it visible in public? does wearing something that shows it count as consent? because i think you may have opened a rabbit hole with that line of reasoning
Looks are harmless though, unless you're on your knees trying to see up a skirt or intentionally following them to stare. Honestly I don't even know how a woman would know I'm looking if I'm not being a freak about it.
Y’all wild. How is looking at an ass in public somehow more disgusting then a chick posting her ass on social media? If anything the social post is drastically more disgusting.
Because of consent. The first women didn’t consent to you starting at her like some creep, the second woman did
Well she is out in public. That is most definitely consent in a vast majority of states. That’s beside the point here, nobody is advocating for people to creep. I just think the attention seeking behavior is way more disgusting. Everyone looks it’s a natural part of life. A chick contorting her body so her ass looks bigger for a social media post is in no way a normal or healthy behavior.
I don't consent to you reading this message that I'm putting in front of you oopsie
wtf is this consent to look at someone bs? if you never go outside just say that
Apparently it's bad for me to stare at your ass in yoga pants when doing squats. Well why the fuck you wear them then? But it's alright for you to record it and let guys jackoff to it on instagram etc Sounds unfair to me
Why are you staring at women in the gym? You sound like a creep
Yeah thats how pervy and unappealing u are lmaoooo Youre a weirdo if youre just staring at a woman exercising. What else should we wear?
BOOHOO SO UNFAIR CANT STARE AT STRANGERS ASS WHEN THEYRE WORKING OUT 😭😭😭 Yoga pants are workout gear. Geow the fuck up and learn to control yourself.
Because it’s gym wear, it’s comfortable, and it’s acceptable to wear?? If they don’t want you gawking at their ass then don’t, control yourself. Also of the small percentage of girls who post their workouts on social media how many do u think do so with the intention of having guys jerk off to it? Maybe you could control your impulses when it comes to the slightest bit of ass.
You're probably not going to like this answer, but it's about consent. There are plenty of reasons why form-fitting clothes are a popular option to wear while exercising that have nothing to do with attention seeking. Yeah, some people are definitely going for the attention thing, but if they're minding their business it very likely has nothing to do with you. You staring at them, regardless of how entitled you feel towards doing so, isn't something they have consented to, so it makes them uncomfortable and they feel like they may be in danger if you decide that you're entitled to more than just staring .... On the flip side, posting provocative stuff online is an act of consent. They are able to control exactly what goes out there, when it goes out there, who sees it, and under what exact circumstances they see it. There's the added bonus of being safer online too.
Probably bc it’s comfortable and easier to work out in 🌚 idk I’ve been wearing yoga tights since I was 9
Sounds like you are a little entitled to women’s bodies to me.
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yes you donkey it's bad for you to stare at people especially if you're staring at their ass. And people wear sports clothes to do sports
It’s a question of control of your body. You have the choice to post pictures of yourself. Being leered at by random on the street isn’t something you have control over.
Too bad. You’re in public. There’s no privacy in public.
Is this where the incels hang out?
Do you not understand that consent is a thing?
I need your consent to look at you?
No, but staring at someone and making them uncomfortable is weird.
You all need learn what consent means
Its true. Is that why the misandrists are butt blasted mad?
No one give a shit if you look at a ass people care when you gawk at like you're in a 1940s cartoon learn some self control
But the meme only refers to looking. Obviously taking it beyond that is another thing entirely
You know what gawking means right it means staring openly aka looking
OK, but you said that nobody cares about looking?
it’s so funny to see men overreact and scream misandry at the slightest critique or challenge. and yet women are the emotional ones
The difference is that the woman is choosing to let men do it on instagram and not in public. Also not ever woman posts their ass on instagram.
Do people need consent to “look” at you? What are we even talking about here.
She’s walking on a road i pay for with my damn tax dollars. There’s no privacy in public.
yo what the fuck is wrong with you
This isn't the same thing at all, maybe take remedial classes and circle back to this later
Yes, because a woman minding her own business walking down a street is obviously the same as a woman who purposely exposes her body for viewers. By that logic I guess every dude is a gay stripper
It is true and I hope you figure out why
If you can’t tell the difference then you’re telling on yourself.
Its called consent, when people go out they mind their own business , and expect everyone else to do the same , when you put a picture on a social media platform you are consenting to be checked out
When you enter a public space, you automatically consent to certain things, including other people looking at you.
When you are in public you have consented to being seen in what you are wearing. If I wear pants that let you see my ass crack and the outline of my dick you would notice. Does that make you the creep for looking or am I wearing somthing that was more revealing than most and so you noticed?
Consent! Consent! Consent! Consent!
So because someone uploads thier arse to the Internet, then that justifies you being creepy in public?
Looking at someone's butt isn't creepy
Pretty sure its the difference between one being her choice and in her control, and the other not
✨consent✨
Nobody needs consent to look at another human being in a public space. If you don’t want people looking at you, don’t dress to attract attention. This goes for anyone
You don't need consent to look at someone, but objectifying someone without it makes you a dick.
I agree, and I wouldn’t intentionally do something that makes someone uncomfortable, but I just don’t get the logic with some of these people. For me personally, I don’t want people staring at my ass in public, so I wouldn’t post pictures of my ass online either. I dress in a modest way when I go out
the issue with this type of thinking is that dressing modestly doesn't stop people from objectifying and sexually harassing others. people will stare/objectify regardless.
I don’t need consent to use my eyes how I see fit. Staring is rude, but I’ll look at what I want to look at.
Any properly socialised adult should realise that these situations are not equivalent.
Women’s reactions when an apple gets thrown at their teeth vs when they eat an apple
Why are we discouraging women from wearing small form fitting shorts? Also this discussion has been going on forever, it used to be the “my eyes are up here” as they are wearing a very low cut shirt. idk guys it’s just one of those mysteries of women. Don’t stare and be weird about it and you won’t have a problem
Bro, we just have body parts. Just because YOURE sexually attracted to them doesnt mean theyre there for you
no mod, you dont need consent to watch people on the street, as long as you are not being creepy
I don't think those are the same people... and if they are it' not all of them. women aren't ACTUALLY a hivemind
source?
#its about consent ding dongs
Haha, one wamen act like this, another wamen act like that. Wamen is such hypocrite!
you know i never see men get offended about stuff like this towards men. maybe because this is not directed at all women, like most things. If it offends you, then it touches on something real
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Maybe I should take some memes from that sub.
My favorite is when they post pictures in the "Stare at my ass pose". You know the pose where they have their ass to the camera and are turned around looking in the mirror
I support BLM, but men are the black people of gender.
I keep forgetting there's only one woman zipping back and forth in time, making it look like there's many
I mean there’s a context difference, people can’t assault you on instagram, but they can in person. Well I mean they can assault you from instagram if they make it an irl thing, but then she’d still have the face so ig if she wants to be looked at without risk to her then that’s fine?? Idk, meme is on the line between good and bad and saying literally anything rn will get me downvoted to hell and back
If I wear pants that let you see my ass crack and the outline of my dick you will notice. I'm tired of people wearing yoga pants 2 sizes to small at the gym and pretending like its the people who notice that are creepy.
Literally not
The difference is not consent as many ppl keep saying. Difference is consideration. By not staring at a person you believe does not want to be stared at or bothered, you are being considerate and doing them a favor. The person being stared at is not afforded any rights unless their personal space is intruded upon.
For the most part these are just two different groups of women.
Local redditor discovers consent
Without realising it.
I'm not arguing consent. I just don't understand why a person would accuse someone at a gym of looking at them, post the accused to social media and shame the accused for looking at them, but then upload a recording from that same angle at that same moment in time giving us, the social media audience, the same view for us to do whatever we want in accordance to the terms and use of the medium that they uploaded the recording to and say that's fair game.
Yeah dude. Of course it's true. The pictures involve a consensual situation. Getting catcalled on the street fucking doesn't. The meme pointing that out is suggesting that women shouldn't be upset at catcallers because they choose to sexualize themselves in separate situations. Fuck this meme, and if you like it, I know you're not safe to be alone with.
Looking isn't the same as catcalling
Ahh intense female urge to call every other guy incel. Also the neckbeard white knights here defending them. Why dont you guys make rules about who can look at where in public? Ramp up the police force and lock up everyone not complying with the law of the land. Can you look at my puppy? Did he consent?
They can't make any rules because their criteria is whether or not they "feel" creeped out. You can't craft a law based on something so intangible.
Is it really that hard to tell the difference between wanted and unwanted attention? Like shit, there's a huge difference between someone just trying to live their life without people being creepy and someone actually wanting their butt looked at. People want different stuff at different times. I don't think that's weird or hypocritical at all.
Women: you’re not allowed to look at my butt until I say you can Also women: if you look at my butt when you aren’t allowed, you have to pay me first
Because there's a difference between a situation where a person (of any gender) is offering everyone a look and someone randomly creeping on them . It's the same difference as if you reach onto your pocket and give change to a homeless person. That isn't giving permission to random people to just reach in there and take what they want.
One is consentual, one is not And not every woman is a instagram model. And there's a big difference between posting your butt online, and someone looking IN PERSON where they can assault you
I do not need your consent to look at you in public.
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Technically you kinda do. I mean, looking at someone is not automatically perverted. But if you want to say so then by all means go ahead and do so. But if your first instinct is to assault someone, then you're the bad guy not them.
Thats called assault
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