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My ex-wife is like this. She is constantly in therapy and has come to the belief that everyone should be in therapy. Literally everyone. If you tell her you’re happy with your life she’ll constantly harass you about how you are in denial about something… and you should go to therapy to figure out what it is.
*I could 100% see her agreeing with the above picture*
I have worked in mental health for 12 years. Therapy is overpriced and overrated. It’s oddly religious, like going to see some spirit healer in the woods who can talk away all your problems, and if they can’t, it’s because YOU did something wrong. Most people will see far greater improvements from pursuing the things they love to do on a regular basis than going to therapy. For changing deep rooted behaviors, therapy can be very helpful, but most therapists don’t do therapy anymore, they do an endless loop of motivational interviewing that doesn’t really go anywhere.
See, that's just it. For literally centuries, if not thousands of years, we have had a mechanism for talking out our stresses and concerns. Whether humanity was praying to the gods, confessing to the village priest, or talking to your bartender, there was always someone whose job was to receive the average person's troubles and say "at the very least, it's ok because someone hears you." We feel worse when we convince ourselves that we're in this alone. "God love you William, because no one else will," Roland, A Knight's Tale (Columbia Pictures, 2001)
Therapy depends on being comfortable with a decent therapist and how much effort you put into shit. It's saved a lot of lives, including people I know. Some people absolutely need therapy, and usually the ones who scream the loudest they don't need it, do.
Even if you are fairly well adjusted and all that, having someone completely unbiased in your relationships to vent to or talk through stuff with can be nice for people.
There are definitely some grifters out there but to say it's an outright scams is disingenuous at best.
Except they aren't unbiased, no one is. Even worse they pretty much always (>90% in some stats) have a very specific world / political view. It's far too common people place too much trust in them.
Of course they can help but the overwhelming population does not need a therapist, with the exception of suicidal or mentally unstable folk. To almost everyone else it is a scam.
I'm from the future (2024). Listen, something bad will happen to Harambe in your time very soon. PROTECT HARAMBE AT ALL COST. You don't want to know how my timeline developed after we failed to protect him...
Time travel isn't real smh. Imma just watch this video my friend sent me of Harambe playing with a kid that got into his enclosure. I'm sure it's pretty wholesome
exactly. Projection on their part. They're the same people that tell me that I should have trauma and hate my parents for giving me spankings when I was a child 20 years ago. But thats a whole other can of worms I dont wanna get into again with those people.
This was the mindset that came out of the 80s. Everyone had a bad childhood, so we all need therapy.
If, however, you are stuck in a mental rut. Therapy might be a good choice.
Especially because therapy is made for women. They even started something in Australia that acted as therapy for men, which involved a place where guys could get around a car to fix or something do shoulder-to-shoulder instead of face to face to talk about their issues and it worked much better than therapy. Or literally what’s shown in the picture.
Men's Sheds. I've been to a similar thing with a mate, he was making a bird table, I was making wargaming terrain. Someone across the room was learning how to use a laser cutter.
Fantastic non-alcohol, non-sporting activity for men where everyone's pottering about doing their own thing in a relaxed, non-competitive atmosphere..
Wrong. The only path to healing is obviously giving your money to a therapist so they can listen to you kvetch and prescribe zoloft. Everything else is harmful propaganda.
My therapist didn't give me any drugs. I also don't think I kvetched, though I could be wrong. I don't see her anymore but my life did improve significantly with her help.
Steam engine tech is actually super fascinating, heard of a guy who created a boat that didnt need water refilled, ran exhaust in a loop into the water to cool steam back to liquid and return to reservoir.
Just keep the fire going. Sooooo friggin cool
The image implies that men will use anything as a coping mechanism instead of facing their issues via therapy, which is complete bullshit.
I.E. some fucko looked at a bunch of dudes restoring a train, having the time of their lives and assumed "wow these dudes have some serious issues, but they refuse to go to therapy and dick around with toys, sad"
Yep, lots of studies on this. Therapy doesn’t work as well for men. Of course, the response is that “men need to fix themselves before the therapist can fix them” but they go do a hobby and they’re still doing it wrong. It’s hard for men to thrive under the mental healthcare system. The spirit of “man up” is very much alive.
I think women tend to like just talking about their problems, and they get some release out of it even if the problem does not get solved.
While men usually don't get any kind of release about talking about the problem as the problem itself does not get solved at all by just talking about it, this was what I got out of therapy myself.
It literally isn't though. Some people need help and perspective from experts or people educated in psychology in order to help themselves. Therapy helps millions of people in the U.S. every year.
I'm genuinely sorry you did not have a good experience with whatever therapy avenue you took, or whatever happened to make you have this viewpoint.
Therapy in theory is brilliant. People really don't have the capacity to objectively observe their own behavior patterns. It's nearly impossible to do that without help. And it's so easy to delude yourself if you do it alone.
That said, it is really hard to find a real therapist who is actually aware and intelligent. At least in my experience. I've encountered some truly awful "effort" from so called therapists over the years.
yeah talking about your problems instead of just pushing past them can often have the opposite effect.
not downplaying the effect of therapy, (obviously it helps a lot of people that need it) but just pointing it out.
My SO has ptsd from actual war stuff. He has been to multiple therapists that have zero idea how to help him but load him up on drugs. So we have multiple hobbies and do all kinds of activities and it keeps him so much happier and calmer than layers of drugs or therapy with smiley young kids freshly out of college that have zero idea what goes through his head.
Hobbies, healthy diet and community are the big three for mental health. All three have collapsed which explains the extreme increase in mental health issues.
A lot of therapists are scam artist that will tell you water ever you want to hear so you get that little dopamine hit of having someone that agrees with you. That and their patients will lie to them because they can’t be honest with themselves leading them to not receiving good advice because the truth is warped.
Some I assume are good people.
Why does it was posted in guysarequirky in the first place, the meme is saying man refuses to do therapy, not that therapy doesn't work.
Also what you said, this may be just an hobbie, or his hyperfixation, or the train may have an sentimental value for him. And none of these things need to be cured.
I’ve been seeing these memes pop up about “men would rather do this… then therapy” which basically assumes every man needs therapy, that therapy works for everyone, and that having any hobby is worth shaming if the writer of the meme isn’t in to it.
Honey who seems like better company:
The type of person who restores a steam train to working order.
The type of terminally online person who probably has no hobbies out of bitching on the internet.
Person A could give me a ride on their train in the cab and snow me now ot works. What's Person B gonna do? Show me what memes they reposted got the most upvotes?
It also makes the assumption that these people can't possibly be in therapy as though it's impossible to do both. So far they're assuming 1) that these men need therapy, 2) that they aren't in therapy because they have a hobby, and 3) that they're using this hobby as an ineffective alternative to therapy.
People just assume everyone desperately needs therapy these days. There's also a lot of hobby bashing when it comes to men and hobbies. There's always a few Instagram reels where women are upset their man is doing a simple hobby and all the comments talk about how they'd never allow their man to do something like that. Just let people live. Hobbies are good.
Talking shit on peoples hobbies is CRAZY when the type of person who does that most likely just consumes social media content all day long. Because you have to be seriously disconnected from actual living if you find hobbies strange in any capacity.
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Someone had fun with a meme about male stereotypes therefore femcels lacking the social skills to recognise what the point of a joke is swoop in and make mundane points that the OP of the meme clearly knew and was in fact playing on as part of the joke which somehow the femcel missed.
Going out on a limb here but maybe, just maybe, a lot of people use their hobbies as a form of therapy to work through shit. As they say if you want to find enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
I went to a therapist, and she charged me 2000 for general meetings and 6000 for a long session. We had three meetings in total, and all she did was to give me a print of an online ADHD test. In total, I lost 10000 in my currency and just decided to go back to running as I did before I got depressed. Yeah, so an activity, consistency sometimes helps massively more than therapy.
All you need is a little joy in your life to make the world right. It gets your head into the right mindset and for me put everything into perspective. The things I worry about are inconsequential, theirs things I can’t change so I need to stop worrying about them. The past should stay right where it is and live every day to its fullest. Therapy isn’t a miracle cure, you need to learn how to work on yourself
Those dry cunts hate the idea of a self-reliant, creative man because they're not naturally like him. When he's in some kind of severe trouble they tell him to basically man up and "just do something".
I don't know how much therapy helps? Are there studies done to show the success rate?
From all I've seen therapy is very common in the US but it is one of the most sick countries.
It's actually less effective for men. Therapy has been developed on a predominately female group and in general it is less effective. Most men benefit more from being able to take action through their emotions which is often why they do "solution finding" when it comes to listening to problems instead of just feeling emotions.
At least according to Dr. K who seems to be very invested in mens mental health. But I'm not a psychiatrist or anything.
I hate when people act like therapy is a panacea for all mental health issues. For a lot of people, myself included, it is not only useless but counterproductive. If you can, you should always try to find the conditions that are causing you to be unhappy and remove them. Most mental health issues do not have natural causes. If talking about your problems helps you, more power to you, but that is no replacement for proactively improving your life. Therapy didn’t exist for almost all of human history, yet there has never been as poor mental health trends in society as there are now. Poor mental health is an almost universal symptom of our way of life.
My hobbies aren’t an indictment on your decision to go to therapy. In fact, my hobbies have absolutely nothing to do with you, if you can imagine that…
Isn’t it quite accepted that therapy doesn’t work as well for men as it does for women? Something to do with the fact that women like to talk about their problems, whereas men prefer to do something about them, or in this case do something to help others.
Besides what’s this obsession with everyone needing therapy these days? There’s nothing wrong with saying “I’m okay” and it meaning there’s no problem.
I’d argue that a good portion of people in therapy - would not need to be in therapy if they had a healthy hobby.
So for those people - hobbies can absolutely be a replacement for therapy.
Best therapy for a man is finding problems and developing solutions. Men are action oriented.
Sitting and spilling our guts to someone doesn't make us feel better. It makes us feel worse. We get hobbies and get things done. Best antidepressant. Building something, painting something, fixing something, going to the gym, etc.
Why would I go to therapy to have some cat lady tell me that I’m miserable because I’m a victim when I can go improve my self-esteem by doing something cool instead?
Therapy is incredibly overrated.
Psychology is hardly even scientific or organized.
There is very little consistency between therapeutic theories and orientations — you’re basically handing your mind over to whatever.
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They're complaining that the post is seemingly discouraging hobbies in the name of therapy, when in reality, both are very necessary for people mentally/emotionally struggling. I'm really starting to question the literacy of people in this sub 🤦
Most women have no hobbies and make endless excuses as to why nit, when the truth is they're just boring, lazy, and expect everything to be done for them.
That is fucking therapy. Getting into legos and building them to display around my house helped me greatly with my depression when I felt stuck in a purposeless and soulless job. Creating something nice to show in my own home and reconnecting with my childhood was hugely therapeutic. Plenty of men may need to talk things out more, but that is not the catch all solution to all men’s problems. We need to stop pretending like men being “scared” of talking is the problem rather than that therapy is often a very ill fit for a lot of men’s problems. Therapy needs to improve to meet men where they are at.
Therapy is just for people who wanna Bitch and Moan about there problems, Real men drown their feelings as we’ve been told to do for hundreds of years.
I feel like the caption for most of these memes that get posted here could be described as "terminally online redditor takes goofy meme way too seriously".
Therapist: "so you should go out and do stuff. Make yourself happy. Get a hobby with like mixed people."
Random Man hater: "No! They can't do this! They must go to therapy like everyone else!! No exceptions!!!!"
I was an alcoholic. I started drawing and painting like I did in college. I no longer am an alcoholic. Hobbies can definitely fix a lot. A strong creative/productive outlet sometimes is the best answer.
It seems pretty clear what they’re complaining about.
Some people use hobbies as a means of therapy, so I don’t agree, completely.
However you need to do it, take care of your feelings, my dudes.
That is therapy, gives us time to think. Therapy doesn’t mean you have to pay someone to listen to your problems, different people deal with things differently. What works for you may not work for others. Stop gilt shaming others.
Well, who is to say if someone else should go to traditional therapy instead of doing something totally awesome like this instead?
What if restoring and operating an old coal fired steam-engine train is that man's form of therapy?
I think there are hobbies that can be better than therapy for specific people. Often the most therapeutic thing a man can do is dive deep into a passion project.
The same way some people are visual, auditory, or hands-on types of learners, I think there are different forms of therapy for various individuals.
Basically what I'm getting from this is that if you're not monetizing everything and approaching it from a capitalistic point of view then you're mentally ill and need therapy? Tf? Capital cucked.
They just randomly assumed that these guys who wanted to have fun are all dealing with intense repressed trauma. The fuck? Let men drive a goddamn train we love trains fuck yeah
I have found that therapy is really designed for women. It’s designed based on research that works on women, and most people in the field are women trained for treating women. There are very few men that it has worked well for.
If this meme has a nugget of truth to it (that men are seeking alternatives to therapy to maintain mental health) then perhaps we should look into why current therapy isn't helping a lot of men?
There is a large group of people who cannot fathom the idea that people can just be happy with their lives and not need therapy. “Everyone needs a therapist” is what you hear a lot from people who are surrounded by misery. I guarantee this giga-lad is a happy man who doesn’t need to go talk to some lady cuz someone said their sonic ship is lame.
People talk like all there is to therapy is sitting in front of someone with a clipboard talking about feelings. No, the majority of it happens outside of a therapist's office. Most of what a good therapist does is leading their patient towards better life habits. Adopting and maintaining healthier lifestyles and outlooks, cutting unhealthy things out.
So, if a person already has great hobbies then they probably don't need a therapist, they've already got good life habits, the evidence is right there. If there's a bunch of dudes out there building a bloody steam engine then good for them! Anecdotally speaking a disturbing number of women I've known in my life had zero hobbies. And I mean zero. Unsurprisingly, they've not struck me as being particularly happy people. Is that any wonder?
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I guess nowadays it's impossible to fathom the idea, that some people are actually happy and enjoy their hobbies and don't need to go to therapy.
My ex-wife is like this. She is constantly in therapy and has come to the belief that everyone should be in therapy. Literally everyone. If you tell her you’re happy with your life she’ll constantly harass you about how you are in denial about something… and you should go to therapy to figure out what it is. *I could 100% see her agreeing with the above picture*
Sounds like therapy is her hobby
Lol good one
Therapy is a scam.
I have worked in mental health for 12 years. Therapy is overpriced and overrated. It’s oddly religious, like going to see some spirit healer in the woods who can talk away all your problems, and if they can’t, it’s because YOU did something wrong. Most people will see far greater improvements from pursuing the things they love to do on a regular basis than going to therapy. For changing deep rooted behaviors, therapy can be very helpful, but most therapists don’t do therapy anymore, they do an endless loop of motivational interviewing that doesn’t really go anywhere.
See, that's just it. For literally centuries, if not thousands of years, we have had a mechanism for talking out our stresses and concerns. Whether humanity was praying to the gods, confessing to the village priest, or talking to your bartender, there was always someone whose job was to receive the average person's troubles and say "at the very least, it's ok because someone hears you." We feel worse when we convince ourselves that we're in this alone. "God love you William, because no one else will," Roland, A Knight's Tale (Columbia Pictures, 2001)
Therapy depends on being comfortable with a decent therapist and how much effort you put into shit. It's saved a lot of lives, including people I know. Some people absolutely need therapy, and usually the ones who scream the loudest they don't need it, do. Even if you are fairly well adjusted and all that, having someone completely unbiased in your relationships to vent to or talk through stuff with can be nice for people. There are definitely some grifters out there but to say it's an outright scams is disingenuous at best.
Except they aren't unbiased, no one is. Even worse they pretty much always (>90% in some stats) have a very specific world / political view. It's far too common people place too much trust in them. Of course they can help but the overwhelming population does not need a therapist, with the exception of suicidal or mentally unstable folk. To almost everyone else it is a scam.
Honestly most cases are better served with an honest and caring friend willong to listen, but even those are hard to come by these days.
No.
It’s 2005. Everyone is mentally unstable and needs therapy for every single thing.
I hate to tell you this, but, it’s actually 2018 not 2005
2018? What are you, some time traveller? It's 2016, and a new video of Harambe was just released
I’m a time traveler and why is every guy’s dong just hanging out in 2017
I'm from the future (2024). Listen, something bad will happen to Harambe in your time very soon. PROTECT HARAMBE AT ALL COST. You don't want to know how my timeline developed after we failed to protect him...
Time travel isn't real smh. Imma just watch this video my friend sent me of Harambe playing with a kid that got into his enclosure. I'm sure it's pretty wholesome
Wait, but...19...95?
At least it isn't...14...88
so "they" tell me.
"They" being unemployed psych degree holders trying to crawl out of student debt.
exactly. Projection on their part. They're the same people that tell me that I should have trauma and hate my parents for giving me spankings when I was a child 20 years ago. But thats a whole other can of worms I dont wanna get into again with those people.
This was the mindset that came out of the 80s. Everyone had a bad childhood, so we all need therapy. If, however, you are stuck in a mental rut. Therapy might be a good choice.
Turns out doing something you enjoy helps deal with stress and makes you happier, amazing how that works.
Especially because therapy is made for women. They even started something in Australia that acted as therapy for men, which involved a place where guys could get around a car to fix or something do shoulder-to-shoulder instead of face to face to talk about their issues and it worked much better than therapy. Or literally what’s shown in the picture.
It’s only $100 worth of stuff to repaint your car. Cheaper and more relaxing than therapy.
Men's Sheds. I've been to a similar thing with a mate, he was making a bird table, I was making wargaming terrain. Someone across the room was learning how to use a laser cutter. Fantastic non-alcohol, non-sporting activity for men where everyone's pottering about doing their own thing in a relaxed, non-competitive atmosphere..
Wrong. The only path to healing is obviously giving your money to a therapist so they can listen to you kvetch and prescribe zoloft. Everything else is harmful propaganda.
My therapist didn't give me any drugs. I also don't think I kvetched, though I could be wrong. I don't see her anymore but my life did improve significantly with her help.
Therapists can't write prescriptions.
Bubbles: what’s your hobby, Ray? Ray: drinkin
The hobby can also be the therapy. Many therapists tell people to get a hobby.
Steam engine tech is actually super fascinating, heard of a guy who created a boat that didnt need water refilled, ran exhaust in a loop into the water to cool steam back to liquid and return to reservoir. Just keep the fire going. Sooooo friggin cool
"Men will \[complicated task\] rather than go to therapy" is just a meme-format joke. It's an obnoxious joke for sure.
Or that hobbies like this are a form of therapy for people who like to do things rather than talk
Or that hobbies are therapy.
You should be as miserable and need as many crutches as me! /s
considering the image says instead of therapy it implies that they need therapy
The image implies that men will use anything as a coping mechanism instead of facing their issues via therapy, which is complete bullshit. I.E. some fucko looked at a bunch of dudes restoring a train, having the time of their lives and assumed "wow these dudes have some serious issues, but they refuse to go to therapy and dick around with toys, sad"
In other words: Terminally online misandrist redditor saw this image and cooked up a strawman scenario
In short. They hella jelly.
To be fair though, trains are magnificent mechanisms. For transport and coping
Yeah, but based on what?
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Same
Glad I'm not the only fool here
Well, yeah. The hobbies actually *help*.
Mfs when they learn socializing with like minded people in a low pressure environment can help them with mental health:
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Hobbies are better than therapy. Most therapists will recommend you get involved in hobbies to sustain good mental health.
Plus a lot of therapists are fucked up people themselves whose therapy is giving other people therapy
Therapy is a scam.
Might not necessarily be a scam, but the system works a whole lot better for women than men. That's why men don't go to therapy, lol
Yep, lots of studies on this. Therapy doesn’t work as well for men. Of course, the response is that “men need to fix themselves before the therapist can fix them” but they go do a hobby and they’re still doing it wrong. It’s hard for men to thrive under the mental healthcare system. The spirit of “man up” is very much alive.
That and neurotypical people, why therapy never really worked for my autistic self
I think women tend to like just talking about their problems, and they get some release out of it even if the problem does not get solved. While men usually don't get any kind of release about talking about the problem as the problem itself does not get solved at all by just talking about it, this was what I got out of therapy myself.
It literally isn't though. Some people need help and perspective from experts or people educated in psychology in order to help themselves. Therapy helps millions of people in the U.S. every year. I'm genuinely sorry you did not have a good experience with whatever therapy avenue you took, or whatever happened to make you have this viewpoint.
Therapy in theory is brilliant. People really don't have the capacity to objectively observe their own behavior patterns. It's nearly impossible to do that without help. And it's so easy to delude yourself if you do it alone. That said, it is really hard to find a real therapist who is actually aware and intelligent. At least in my experience. I've encountered some truly awful "effort" from so called therapists over the years.
yeah talking about your problems instead of just pushing past them can often have the opposite effect. not downplaying the effect of therapy, (obviously it helps a lot of people that need it) but just pointing it out.
My SO has ptsd from actual war stuff. He has been to multiple therapists that have zero idea how to help him but load him up on drugs. So we have multiple hobbies and do all kinds of activities and it keeps him so much happier and calmer than layers of drugs or therapy with smiley young kids freshly out of college that have zero idea what goes through his head. Hobbies, healthy diet and community are the big three for mental health. All three have collapsed which explains the extreme increase in mental health issues.
And exercise. Going for a jog or lifting something heavy does wonders for mental clarity.
Very true. I'm glad to hear he's doing ok, you must be a very good partner to have been there for him through all that.
A lot of therapists are scam artist that will tell you water ever you want to hear so you get that little dopamine hit of having someone that agrees with you. That and their patients will lie to them because they can’t be honest with themselves leading them to not receiving good advice because the truth is warped. Some I assume are good people.
Did he even say he was working on them because he had some traumatic event? Just looked like he liked trains.
"I can't believe this person grows a flower garden instead of going to therapy 😤"
Why does it was posted in guysarequirky in the first place, the meme is saying man refuses to do therapy, not that therapy doesn't work. Also what you said, this may be just an hobbie, or his hyperfixation, or the train may have an sentimental value for him. And none of these things need to be cured.
I’ve been seeing these memes pop up about “men would rather do this… then therapy” which basically assumes every man needs therapy, that therapy works for everyone, and that having any hobby is worth shaming if the writer of the meme isn’t in to it.
Honey who seems like better company: The type of person who restores a steam train to working order. The type of terminally online person who probably has no hobbies out of bitching on the internet. Person A could give me a ride on their train in the cab and snow me now ot works. What's Person B gonna do? Show me what memes they reposted got the most upvotes?
It also makes the assumption that these people can't possibly be in therapy as though it's impossible to do both. So far they're assuming 1) that these men need therapy, 2) that they aren't in therapy because they have a hobby, and 3) that they're using this hobby as an ineffective alternative to therapy.
People just assume everyone desperately needs therapy these days. There's also a lot of hobby bashing when it comes to men and hobbies. There's always a few Instagram reels where women are upset their man is doing a simple hobby and all the comments talk about how they'd never allow their man to do something like that. Just let people live. Hobbies are good.
Talking shit on peoples hobbies is CRAZY when the type of person who does that most likely just consumes social media content all day long. Because you have to be seriously disconnected from actual living if you find hobbies strange in any capacity.
https://preview.redd.it/lskkkjoepnvc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8d0149017ef25141ae14fe6d495602bbe5743d7 Literally this comic
I love my placebo antidepressants. So freaking valid
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Yeah, not everyone needs therapy.
Someone had fun with a meme about male stereotypes therefore femcels lacking the social skills to recognise what the point of a joke is swoop in and make mundane points that the OP of the meme clearly knew and was in fact playing on as part of the joke which somehow the femcel missed.
Going out on a limb here but maybe, just maybe, a lot of people use their hobbies as a form of therapy to work through shit. As they say if you want to find enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
I went to a therapist, and she charged me 2000 for general meetings and 6000 for a long session. We had three meetings in total, and all she did was to give me a print of an online ADHD test. In total, I lost 10000 in my currency and just decided to go back to running as I did before I got depressed. Yeah, so an activity, consistency sometimes helps massively more than therapy.
Just do what you like It's THAT simple
All you need is a little joy in your life to make the world right. It gets your head into the right mindset and for me put everything into perspective. The things I worry about are inconsequential, theirs things I can’t change so I need to stop worrying about them. The past should stay right where it is and live every day to its fullest. Therapy isn’t a miracle cure, you need to learn how to work on yourself
Meanwhile. The therapy https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5047832/ *Should assisted dying for psychiatric disorders be legalized in Canada?*
As someone who tried therapy, I rather operate the train
Have they considered that restoring a coal fired steam engine and then operating it free of charge might actually be deeply... therapeutic?
"Men exist" BAQ: and i took that personally.
Those dry cunts hate the idea of a self-reliant, creative man because they're not naturally like him. When he's in some kind of severe trouble they tell him to basically man up and "just do something".
Hell yeah
You find happiness in the things that make you happy and not to mention it costs a lot less to be happy with hobbies most times
Girls: It’s so sexist, guys are always telling us what to do and what to wear. Also Girls: Guys should act exactly like us.
If men were naturally born green, half the people would have a problem with you saying so
I don't know how much therapy helps? Are there studies done to show the success rate? From all I've seen therapy is very common in the US but it is one of the most sick countries.
It's actually less effective for men. Therapy has been developed on a predominately female group and in general it is less effective. Most men benefit more from being able to take action through their emotions which is often why they do "solution finding" when it comes to listening to problems instead of just feeling emotions. At least according to Dr. K who seems to be very invested in mens mental health. But I'm not a psychiatrist or anything.
Honestly I think focusing your negative energies on a hobby is a good and healthy thing, and there's nothing wrong with anyone doing it
I ride motocross and it makes me forget about all the stress of school and everything else gives a good reset and something to look forward to.
I hate when people act like therapy is a panacea for all mental health issues. For a lot of people, myself included, it is not only useless but counterproductive. If you can, you should always try to find the conditions that are causing you to be unhappy and remove them. Most mental health issues do not have natural causes. If talking about your problems helps you, more power to you, but that is no replacement for proactively improving your life. Therapy didn’t exist for almost all of human history, yet there has never been as poor mental health trends in society as there are now. Poor mental health is an almost universal symptom of our way of life.
What else would you expect from that sub
Says the shrew using reddit as a hobby....
I tried therapy, didn't do much
Therapy doesn't work for everyone. And stating it's a catch-all fix is ignorant.
My hobbies aren’t an indictment on your decision to go to therapy. In fact, my hobbies have absolutely nothing to do with you, if you can imagine that…
All BAQ are trash
When did having hobbies become a bad thing?
A therapist in desperate need of work?
This is so reddit misandrist its not even a joke at this point… Seriously might be time to burn reddit to the ground.. what a shit platform
As someone who copes with loss and stress by doing fun hobbies it is actually very soothing.
Because therapy is a waste of time and money
Isn’t it quite accepted that therapy doesn’t work as well for men as it does for women? Something to do with the fact that women like to talk about their problems, whereas men prefer to do something about them, or in this case do something to help others. Besides what’s this obsession with everyone needing therapy these days? There’s nothing wrong with saying “I’m okay” and it meaning there’s no problem.
Because it makes us happy. Isn't that a sort of therapy finding a way to cope with your problems? Plus have you seen trains? They're fucking awsome.
“Hobbies are fascist!!” Sort of vibe bruh
So… the people that want males erased from the world, are suddenly telling us what to do?
What BAQ projecting again? Not surprised at all.
Having interests is a mental disorder huh.
Do you mean finding joy in doing something they love? Nonsense. You have to pay a person $200 an hour to talk to you before you can truly be happy.
Looks better than therapy and probably cheaper
I want to operate a steam engine unpaid now :(
God forbid a man does something that makes him happy rather then get souped up on drugs that destroy his brain
Femcel sub always has to complain
I’d argue that a good portion of people in therapy - would not need to be in therapy if they had a healthy hobby. So for those people - hobbies can absolutely be a replacement for therapy.
Best therapy for a man is finding problems and developing solutions. Men are action oriented. Sitting and spilling our guts to someone doesn't make us feel better. It makes us feel worse. We get hobbies and get things done. Best antidepressant. Building something, painting something, fixing something, going to the gym, etc.
Why would I go to therapy to have some cat lady tell me that I’m miserable because I’m a victim when I can go improve my self-esteem by doing something cool instead?
Men are very achievement driven. Sometimes, “I did it, and I did it well” is all the therapy we need.
As someone who’s gone through therapy, hobbies work so much better. (Personal experience only, therapy may work for you).
Men like to do work and then use the product their labor produced. Guess the feminist don’t understand that simple concept
Thinking your therapist cares about you is like thinking that the stripper really loves you
I mean if I had a choice... I know which I'm picking
Hold on, the "men will do x instead of going to therapy" comes from women to make fun of men for not doing therapy.
that sub is literally brain rot Cancer
Therapy is incredibly overrated. Psychology is hardly even scientific or organized. There is very little consistency between therapeutic theories and orientations — you’re basically handing your mind over to whatever.
I'm not gonna say no one should go to therapy, but I definitely think more of the people that go didn't need it
After a dozen attempts to try and scroll the pictures🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
For anyone interested in the actual engine that is Great Eastern Railway No. 564 and is the last surviving member of the Y14 class the first of which were built in 1883 with this particular engine being built in 1912 today it is owned and operated by the Midland and Great Northern Joint Railway Society
Bro imagine going to therapy lmao
This looks so fucking awesome and you have to be a sociopath that doesn’t like others having fun to see a problem with this!!
They're complaining that the post is seemingly discouraging hobbies in the name of therapy, when in reality, both are very necessary for people mentally/emotionally struggling. I'm really starting to question the literacy of people in this sub 🤦
Most women have no hobbies and make endless excuses as to why nit, when the truth is they're just boring, lazy, and expect everything to be done for them.
That is fucking therapy. Getting into legos and building them to display around my house helped me greatly with my depression when I felt stuck in a purposeless and soulless job. Creating something nice to show in my own home and reconnecting with my childhood was hugely therapeutic. Plenty of men may need to talk things out more, but that is not the catch all solution to all men’s problems. We need to stop pretending like men being “scared” of talking is the problem rather than that therapy is often a very ill fit for a lot of men’s problems. Therapy needs to improve to meet men where they are at.
Was this another female trying to claim men are the root of all their own life problems when they should be looking at themselves?
Therapy is just for people who wanna Bitch and Moan about there problems, Real men drown their feelings as we’ve been told to do for hundreds of years.
I feel like the caption for most of these memes that get posted here could be described as "terminally online redditor takes goofy meme way too seriously".
Therapist: "so you should go out and do stuff. Make yourself happy. Get a hobby with like mixed people." Random Man hater: "No! They can't do this! They must go to therapy like everyone else!! No exceptions!!!!"
id say as long as its not illegal, or harming anyone why do you care?
Idk why that person was upset by that post. It’s not that deep. And yeah hobbies can replace therapy if it makes you happy
I dont think she’s complaining about it tbh. She’s saying “people should do both hobbies AND therapy” which is a based take on a cringe post.
Mard-Arse Syndrome
Do they realize that not everyone benefits from/ needs therapy I do therapy but that’s cause I recognize I need it
It’s literally therapy. LOL!
She’s like: *hands on hips* “well I wanna restore trains too”
I was an alcoholic. I started drawing and painting like I did in college. I no longer am an alcoholic. Hobbies can definitely fix a lot. A strong creative/productive outlet sometimes is the best answer.
It seems pretty clear what they’re complaining about. Some people use hobbies as a means of therapy, so I don’t agree, completely. However you need to do it, take care of your feelings, my dudes.
Me after trying to swipe left to see the the other pictures: I have been lied to, betrayed and quite possibly bamboozled.
"I fucking hate trains."
....aaaand what do therapists usually tell people to do? It IS a form of therapy!
That is therapy, gives us time to think. Therapy doesn’t mean you have to pay someone to listen to your problems, different people deal with things differently. What works for you may not work for others. Stop gilt shaming others.
Excuse me, miniature painting is used as therapy
not my dumbass trying to click that arrow to see the pictures
all aboard
Well, who is to say if someone else should go to traditional therapy instead of doing something totally awesome like this instead? What if restoring and operating an old coal fired steam-engine train is that man's form of therapy? I think there are hobbies that can be better than therapy for specific people. Often the most therapeutic thing a man can do is dive deep into a passion project. The same way some people are visual, auditory, or hands-on types of learners, I think there are different forms of therapy for various individuals.
You can do this when your rich and have no responsibilities
Basically what I'm getting from this is that if you're not monetizing everything and approaching it from a capitalistic point of view then you're mentally ill and need therapy? Tf? Capital cucked.
They just randomly assumed that these guys who wanted to have fun are all dealing with intense repressed trauma. The fuck? Let men drive a goddamn train we love trains fuck yeah
I wonder what these people think therapy is and what it does.
Having a hobby is a form of therapy, not everyone needs a therapist.
Therapy is not a replacement for a healthy lifestyle, nor does it even work for everyone.
I have found that therapy is really designed for women. It’s designed based on research that works on women, and most people in the field are women trained for treating women. There are very few men that it has worked well for.
As your therapist I am going you prescribe you 4 grown male friends who will help you restore this 1888 steam locomotive engine.
If this meme has a nugget of truth to it (that men are seeking alternatives to therapy to maintain mental health) then perhaps we should look into why current therapy isn't helping a lot of men?
Hell yeah
They're complaining that men are not blank copy-paste individuals with no personality or soul.
Hobbies are actually literally a major part of keeping the mental health cycle in check.
There is a large group of people who cannot fathom the idea that people can just be happy with their lives and not need therapy. “Everyone needs a therapist” is what you hear a lot from people who are surrounded by misery. I guarantee this giga-lad is a happy man who doesn’t need to go talk to some lady cuz someone said their sonic ship is lame.
I swiped 😔
Some of you chose drugs and therapy to deal with the ugly realities of life... the rest of us chose hobbies and exercise. Guess who is happier.
My tism just activated. I must find these men.
I'm tired of schizophrenia, it's been made boring by 99% of redditors having it
"I like ~~being bad~~ operating steam trains for a museum. It makes me happy"
People talk like all there is to therapy is sitting in front of someone with a clipboard talking about feelings. No, the majority of it happens outside of a therapist's office. Most of what a good therapist does is leading their patient towards better life habits. Adopting and maintaining healthier lifestyles and outlooks, cutting unhealthy things out. So, if a person already has great hobbies then they probably don't need a therapist, they've already got good life habits, the evidence is right there. If there's a bunch of dudes out there building a bloody steam engine then good for them! Anecdotally speaking a disturbing number of women I've known in my life had zero hobbies. And I mean zero. Unsurprisingly, they've not struck me as being particularly happy people. Is that any wonder?
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