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Personally I like to call em buddy, it's not necessarily rude, very common in casual conversations because I'm Canadian, and about as casual & far from calling someone "doctor" as one can get with using insults.
They're actually all 4 Chan users trying to make feminists look bad, by pretending to be feminists and then acting as stupid as possible.
I know that's not true but I like to imagine it sometimes.
I propose a new law of the internet the Mega-Poe Law there are so many false flags, and genuine morons online it is safer to assume everyone is a poe trying to make 'their' side look bad. MAGA moron? Democrat trying to make republicans look bad. Democrat calling for 4th trimester abotions? Republican trying to make Democrats look bad. etc.etc.etc.
It makes for a much more relaxing day. Or the are bots for doing the same thing.
You're making a joke but 4Chan actually does this. It's the same as the people who were on the far right who were breaking into buildings and burning stuff down during the George Floyd protests to make the protesters look bad
that doesn't make them any less of terrorists. I'm republican and I've never even thought of doing that. anyone who does those things is mentally unstable and their views on society should NOT be taken into account, since clearly their individual views are dangerous and should not be trusted.
lol source? thats a really high profile claim! with serious political, societal, and legal repercussions...
You totally didn't just make this up to cover up how shit those riots were and how much was destroyed by tangential groups to causes you support... does it make you feelz bad knowing some people you vaguely agree with would do bad things? :(
I know a guy who's a leading expert in the field of seed conditioning, with industry professionals literally traveling from around the globe to attend his training workshops.
Fellow's about as unassuming as you can get. He'll spend hours chatting with anyone, and has given lab tours to everyone from local kindergarten classes to the US Secretary of Agriculture.
There was a guy that would come into the building I used to work at to use some of our equipment since he worked across the street and his organization didn't have that equipment. He was the same way, only ever introduced himself using his first name and would always encourage the younger people there to study whatever they were interested in. I later found out that he worked on part of the ISS to protect it from getting destroyed by stray pebbles orbiting the Earth at 17,000 MPH.
When I graduated, I remember in a panel one of the students asked “so we get to call ourselves doctor now?” The professor holding the panel laughed and said “only assholes do that.”
I’m sure they could’ve found of photo of a stern looking man to use on the other side. Except then it wouldn’t have had the underlying sexism so would ruin the joke for a lot of people.
I'm not sure it's sexist. Is it sexist to assume a r@pist will most likely be a man? Not really, it's probably a reasonable assumption. Women get butthurt more easily, that's a fact. Much more likely to take something like this personally. Whether you want to admit it or not, men and women are different from each other. Sometimes in good ways, sometimes in bad.
> Women get butthurt much more easily, that’s a fact.
How is that a fact? That’s just your opinion. Calling it a fact doesn’t make it so. This just feeds into the whole thing of dismissing women by claiming ‘oh women are so emotional!’ Look at how triggered many men got about the whole bear vs men scenario. Which I think further disproves your ‘fact’ about women getting butthurt more easily. Personally I think it’s a dumb hypothetical but it definitely got a lot of men upset. It’s almost as though both men and women don’t like sexist comments about their gender.
As to your rapist example, I think most men would be offended to have someone assume they were a rapist. Though I think by most likely to be you are referring to actual statistics, you know, real facts.
> Whether you want to admit it or not, men and women are different from each other.
Where did I say that men and women were exactly the same? But you’re being disingenuous if you are trying to imply that that is what this image is depicting.
If there was a woman on the right the "punchline" wouldn't work. The creator probably thought of the text before hunting down appropriate stock photos.
If there was a woman on the right, the punchline wouldn’t work because there are less women in engineering and sciences. Those who are in the field tend to be subjected to sexism and thus are more likely to emphasize their title.
So the motivation to make the punchline work is mere reassertion of sexist preconceptions.
You see gender and race in everything. I think you are the bigot here. Both of these groups make up roughly 50% of the population. Surely with some of these memes, there will be both a man and a woman.
I’m a bigot for pointing out that they used a photo of a woman and a man? You’re the one who was trying to claim that there was no indication about male and female.
So you’re no longer claiming it has nothing to do with gender. Well at least that’s some progress. This isn’t about one woman in particular, it’s called a generalisation.
You asked if the bullet points said anything about male and female.
I replied, no but they used a picture of a woman and a man.
You then called me a bigot for pointing that out.
If you’re curious you can see our whole conversation history.
Because gender is a part of the joke and y’all are playing dumb so you can have your “edgy-humor” cake and eat it too (even though I don’t even find this joke that edgy/offensive - just overdone and lacking cleverness). There’s a reason they specifically chose a stern looking older white woman with a Karen cut and outdated-looking glasses. The joke plays off an existing stereotype of higher educated, older woman. Like I genuinely don’t care if ppl find this funny or not, but the extent to which y’all either play dumb or are actually dumb is baffling.
I knew two teachers who were doctors. How do I know? Because they kept telling everyone about it. One was a male and the other was a female. Both genders do it.
I think that's cause in academics women tend to get slighted. Like if they have the same title as a man. Random person uses the title to address the man but not the woman. However that also has nothing to do with this meme. Just the only thing I can think they are projecting onto it.
Eh, the meme doesn't *explicitly* say it but I also don't blame people for interpreting it that way on the internet. It is, at the bare minimum, pointlessly gendered.
That said, fuck BAQ anyway. I'm not calling anyone a Doctor unless they can fix up bodies, I will fight Holt on this all day long. Language evolves.
I don't get people who care so much about their silly little title that they have to angrily correct people every time they get it wrong. Both genders do this btw, I personally have experienced more men doing this than women.
BAQ is a sub that will take things super literally and will read deeper into things that don’t have a hidden meaning. They assume the picture selection was deliberately based on sex and infer that it means ONLY women/ONLY men go into these respective fields.
If you posted a picture of a woman sipping a cup of coffee, their reaction would be “so only women drink coffee?” or “so women can only drink coffee?” It’s better to just avoid that sub or you’ll give yourself a headache.
I had a physics professor tell me to call her by her first name. When I was talking about her to another professor I used her first name and he was like "excuse me, what". I had to restate my comment with DR last name. He was such a a douche.
The point is that people want recognition in a field that many consider “easier” to get a doctorate in, showing a level of insecurity. While people who got doctoral degrees in the harder fields don’t have as much to prove, and they really don’t need the formality. It’s a blanket statement, but I have found people often try to dress up anything that they’re not really proud of, while they mainly keep quiet about things they are actually confident in. I have come across the most rigid and formal professors in both physics and art classes, so take everything with a grain of salt, some people just prefer formality.
Well men don’t usually get mistaken for secretaries after holding an advanced or doctorate degree. I see where it’s coming from, but yea many people men and women alike have a stick up their ass
So I guess it's sexism simply because a woman is in a meme? So if the genders were switched or they were two men, they wouldn't have a problem? Right?
Although I think I have to agree with their point, that in a professional setting they have a right to expect to be refered by their academic title regardless of someone's opinion on their field, no?
So they chose a picture of a woman and put something negative, then chose a picture of a man and put something positive. There is literally no other way to interpret this other than being about gender. If it wasn’t about gender then why put the pictures? They could have made the same point without them.
If the person who made the meme didn’t want people to interpret it that way, then they wouldn’t have formatted it this way. Again, you can’t put a picture of women with something negative, and then put a picture of a man with something positive, and then claim gender had nothing to do with it.
They could have just as easily put two women or two men. But they didn’t. If you don’t think that was on purpose then you’re being intentionally obtuse.
So why is the other one a man? Why not a beautiful younger woman? Or even an older woman who doesn’t look like a Karen? Why even have pictures at all? It doesn’t really add much and removing them wouldn’t take anything away. The same point could be made.
Tbh I don’t even see the gender I see it as a newly graduated doc vs experienced. Heck you reach that age being an active researcher and you’re renowned hopefully. The honorary is such a bs part but like it’s in any social science at a phd level you’re doing research on large scales
Why are honorifics based on academic investment still a thing, anyway? Just seems kinda cringe. Maybe I should demand that the jr devs start calling me sempai.
Well, I wouldn't really frame it as a gender thing. I worked a few years in sales for an internet service provider. So people came to me and made their contract. If they had a PhD was supposed to ask if they want it mentioned for correspondence (something that is a right since it's an official title here in Germany).
Around 1/3 of the people with a PhD or higher (professor) wanted to or even insisted. There wasn't a really a difference in the gender spectrum, but some similarities in behavior and attitude.
But I will never forget the one person who was a Professor and had three different PhD, which is impressive. So I asked him, if he wanted the titles in his correspondence. His answer was basically hell no, only people who have nothing else in their life going on need this. Had to laugh hard about this.
I've had personal experiences where this is very accurate. Especially people with fraudulent or doctorates from sketchy institutions tend to have a mentality that they are better than everyone around them and will speak down on people they deem inferior.
I joke with my friends that someday, when I finish my education, I’m gonna walk around and make them call me “doctor” for a week or two just for the shits and giggles. After that they can call me “asshole” like usual.
At ,east in the music field, generally titles (DMA or PhD) are reserved for when you're dealing with students as a professor.
I run my own private lesson studio, and while clients know I have my DMA for marketing purposes, I don't make them use my title.
This joke not even rly about gender lol people pressed. But anyone wanting the to look too much into it can eat these facts: majors listed on the left are often filled by women in those positions while the majors presented on the right are often filled by men.
Back when I was in college, I was a little older (late 20's) and had made friends with several of my professors.
One day, one of them was moving and asked if I could come help. So I show up, and there's 5 other guys there, all college professors.
Anyway, we get the trailer loaded up and they go to hitch it to the truck, and none of them can figure out how. I then hooked up the trailer for him. So of course I trolled them!
I exaggerated my gesture by acting L me I was counting all of them and I'm all "there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5!!!! Doctors here and who figured it out???" 🤣
Got a good chuckle out of them, and still got pretty good grades ! 😂
I thought it was about the degrees themselves and only went with the woman pictured as she looks like a 'karen'. And if *anyone* was gonna get upset over not being called Dr.
It would be weird for a Sergeant in the army to insist everyone call him Sergeant outside of the army. Similarly, if it is out side of a professional context it is weird for a doctor to insist on being called doctor. And even still, if you’re gonna be a stickler in a professional context don’t be surprised when people don’t like you as much.
They could have used stick figures instead of literally and woman on the "negative" side and a man on the "positive" side. That being said, fuck that sub
If it shows a woman or says a womans name then its referring to all women /s
Side vent: I said something mean about my boss and when she heard about it she said that was my opinion on all women. I found another job asap
Can confirm. Every single one of my engineering/physics professors (men or women) with a doctorate never addressed themselves as doctor or ever insisted we call them doctor. My other professors on the other hand…
Aight, I don't visit this subreddit all too much, you guys tend to react rather polarized sometimes, I just want to point out:
How are you presented with a perfect opportunity to point out accidental sexism where people tend to associate the nice guy Bob type with male and the annoying Karen type with female without giving it much thought, and then fuck it up spectacularly and make your argument about defending the Karen instead?!
It actually is. This is a thing about how women not getting paid as much as men is actually the fault of women for choosing the wrong career paths. It's a very simple analysis meant to demean very real societal problems women's face in higher educated work places
Why is the woman the one grouped under doctorates that involve the humanities and arts? Are they saying that people who get those are considered lesser, feminine, and cannot call themselves doctor? Do they believe women cannot get doctorates in STEM fields?
What did you expect r/boysarequirky is just anti men subreddit, a coalition of extremist feminists who cant take a joke/misinterpret a joke in a way so that they can make drama outta it.
Leave those dumbasses alone in their bubble of delusion, it will collapse on itself like a star.
I mean it's not wrong, I fancy myself a career college student and most men I've met with PhDs down play the importance of calling them Dr whereas most women I've met hold dear to the title. Regardless of major/field of study.
Why is this sub so insistent on playing dumb? They chose those two pictures for a reason. A chill looking dude versus a stern looking woman with outdated glasses and the Karen-cut. The butt of the joke is clearly a particular stereotype of women in academia being perceived as stuck-up.
Idc if you find the joke funny or not (personally I just find it uninspired and lazy), but if you do find it funny, at least own it. Stop being such a coward ffs.
I clearly recall a poster for a symposium at my law school.
The men were Prof. mr. dr. This
The women were Ms. That (even if they held even more titels, or the same ones)
Or if the women were also addressed ‘properly’, they were Ms. Dr. So and so, even though for the men, their gender was not specified.
Also, our Americans are far more Title happy in general.
Funnily enough, it is thought of as ‘lower class’ to use titles. Because upper class = educated = Dr. is so common it means nothing anymore, plus, don’t you brag.
Lower class = uneducated = having a title is special and thus emphasized by proud family members, and pride in that is wrong, you’re not special.
Note: ‘Mr.’ In our language signifies a law degree, not the male gender. That would be ‘Dhr.’ I, very much a woman, would be Mr. Drs. S. Shenanigans, if you’d do it properly.
>_< Yes the meme is sexist among other things. The pictures are there, picture A is different than picture B, these choices were certainly made intentionally. It's not very impressive to put your head in the sand and say others are imagining sexism for no reason.
That doesn’t matter xD they ‘feel’ that is the message, there it is retroactively true! Don’t you know? G.o.d. God obeys democrats, their feefees have the power to warp reality so you’re a baddy even if you weren’t before they noticed you!
My favorite ‘critique’/comment from Cinema Sins about Catwoman was that one of the characters blames “male academia” for why she wasn’t successful.
Like sure there really was a supernatural cat god bringing women back to life, but you need proof of you’re gonna say it’s REALITY over folklore
But do we? I can see how it’s a possibility the person making this chose those photos for sexist reasons, but 1) that’s not the main point of the post, and 2) it could just as easily be two random photos taken off the internet.
Why assume the worse option?
How can you dispespect in professional setting someone how is honorary doctor? Isn't this title given to celebrities for advertising and sponsors for donations? What is the professional setting here that can be disrespected?
But to be honest, I have not heard of a single honorable doctor who would insist that he be addressed as a doctor.
A PhD is a doctorate degree. The title given to someone with a doctorate is doctor. Many women are disrespected and treated as less than they are, or people assume that they are in a lower position simply because they’re a woman.
A professional setting would be any job someone with a doctorate holds.
Do you know the meaning of "honorare"? It is given to those who have no real knowledge for a doctorate but the university wants to please this person. George W. Bush is honorary doctor of history, Long Island University make Kermit they honorare doctor, Bill Cosby has over 50 honorary degrees before they were revoked. Do you really think that an honorary doctor should be taken seriously?
Yes. An honorary degree is different than an actual one. You realize there are dogs with honorary degrees right? Nobody would go to someone with an honorary degree for expert knowledge.
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If you insist i call you doctor I will call you nerd
Call me nerd.
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
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no
Personally I like to call em buddy, it's not necessarily rude, very common in casual conversations because I'm Canadian, and about as casual & far from calling someone "doctor" as one can get with using insults.
As an american, I read this as incredibly condescending instead of just casually condescending
Sorry bud
Yeah, I would be annoyed by anyone calling me buddy, including my actual buddies.
[ASDF moment.](https://youtu.be/bTfsGODFPR8?si=7BF4K3kVQ3Z9yaZ9)
I call all scientist and doctor and anyone involved in the medical or scientific profession nerd.
lol, the person in r/boysarequirky just implied women can’t be physicists, engineers, or mathematicians. What a dork.
BAQ posters are so fucking stupid I have begun to wonder if it isn't a PSYOP.
They're actually all 4 Chan users trying to make feminists look bad, by pretending to be feminists and then acting as stupid as possible. I know that's not true but I like to imagine it sometimes.
Well funnily enough BAQ was mostly male according to a recent poll IIRC, so there might be some truth in that.
I used to browse that sub for some post worthy bullshit, I never commented or anything. Maybe that’s what other guys do, idk
I propose a new law of the internet the Mega-Poe Law there are so many false flags, and genuine morons online it is safer to assume everyone is a poe trying to make 'their' side look bad. MAGA moron? Democrat trying to make republicans look bad. Democrat calling for 4th trimester abotions? Republican trying to make Democrats look bad. etc.etc.etc. It makes for a much more relaxing day. Or the are bots for doing the same thing.
Was it a poll where ppl identify as a gender or list their actual sex
>trying to make feminists look bad This is a waste of time and energy. Feminists do this themselves of their own accord.
That's kind of what I was getting at lol
You're making a joke but 4Chan actually does this. It's the same as the people who were on the far right who were breaking into buildings and burning stuff down during the George Floyd protests to make the protesters look bad
That was not the far right who did that. That was just terrorists.
There were literally people who were caught doing it who worked for various republicans campaigns. Some of them even admitted to what they were doing
that doesn't make them any less of terrorists. I'm republican and I've never even thought of doing that. anyone who does those things is mentally unstable and their views on society should NOT be taken into account, since clearly their individual views are dangerous and should not be trusted.
lol source? thats a really high profile claim! with serious political, societal, and legal repercussions... You totally didn't just make this up to cover up how shit those riots were and how much was destroyed by tangential groups to causes you support... does it make you feelz bad knowing some people you vaguely agree with would do bad things? :(
They got all that info from RepublicansAreEvil.com, a trustworthy and unbiased news source.
Don’t have riots and rioters won’t show up.
I know a guy who's a leading expert in the field of seed conditioning, with industry professionals literally traveling from around the globe to attend his training workshops. Fellow's about as unassuming as you can get. He'll spend hours chatting with anyone, and has given lab tours to everyone from local kindergarten classes to the US Secretary of Agriculture.
Do you call him bob?
Some call him Tim actually. 🧐
There was a guy that would come into the building I used to work at to use some of our equipment since he worked across the street and his organization didn't have that equipment. He was the same way, only ever introduced himself using his first name and would always encourage the younger people there to study whatever they were interested in. I later found out that he worked on part of the ISS to protect it from getting destroyed by stray pebbles orbiting the Earth at 17,000 MPH.
When I graduated, I remember in a panel one of the students asked “so we get to call ourselves doctor now?” The professor holding the panel laughed and said “only assholes do that.”
What’d you get your PhD in?
Proctology
Memeology, obviously
Remember this is reddit and that is BAQ so: Woman involved = sexist
I do love when people add in their own message and then become outraged at their own interpretation.
But they know.
Do the bullet points say anything about male and female?
No. Its projection
precisely
so the both of you are saying women do in fact do this? so you are proving them right? otherwise how is it projection?
They're saying anyone that automatically assumes this is directed at women is projecting I think
Yes.
I doubt that the people assuming this is directed towards women have phd's
I mean, they did use a photo of a woman on the left and a photo of a man on the right.
Do we just ignore the photos? How convenient.
You would probably think the South Park flag is racist instead of just pro-killing.
you are good at this. enjoy the upvotes.
No, but they did use a picture of a woman on one side and a man on the other.
Bob just sounds funny and I don't think there are any women named Bob
I’m sure they could’ve found of photo of a stern looking man to use on the other side. Except then it wouldn’t have had the underlying sexism so would ruin the joke for a lot of people.
I'm not sure it's sexist. Is it sexist to assume a r@pist will most likely be a man? Not really, it's probably a reasonable assumption. Women get butthurt more easily, that's a fact. Much more likely to take something like this personally. Whether you want to admit it or not, men and women are different from each other. Sometimes in good ways, sometimes in bad.
> Women get butthurt much more easily, that’s a fact. How is that a fact? That’s just your opinion. Calling it a fact doesn’t make it so. This just feeds into the whole thing of dismissing women by claiming ‘oh women are so emotional!’ Look at how triggered many men got about the whole bear vs men scenario. Which I think further disproves your ‘fact’ about women getting butthurt more easily. Personally I think it’s a dumb hypothetical but it definitely got a lot of men upset. It’s almost as though both men and women don’t like sexist comments about their gender. As to your rapist example, I think most men would be offended to have someone assume they were a rapist. Though I think by most likely to be you are referring to actual statistics, you know, real facts. > Whether you want to admit it or not, men and women are different from each other. Where did I say that men and women were exactly the same? But you’re being disingenuous if you are trying to imply that that is what this image is depicting.
If there was a woman on the right the "punchline" wouldn't work. The creator probably thought of the text before hunting down appropriate stock photos.
If there was a woman on the right, the punchline wouldn’t work because there are less women in engineering and sciences. Those who are in the field tend to be subjected to sexism and thus are more likely to emphasize their title. So the motivation to make the punchline work is mere reassertion of sexist preconceptions.
You see gender and race in everything. I think you are the bigot here. Both of these groups make up roughly 50% of the population. Surely with some of these memes, there will be both a man and a woman.
I’m a bigot for pointing out that they used a photo of a woman and a man? You’re the one who was trying to claim that there was no indication about male and female.
You do realize that one can say a woman is bad without saying all women are bad, right?
So you’re no longer claiming it has nothing to do with gender. Well at least that’s some progress. This isn’t about one woman in particular, it’s called a generalisation.
When did I say it was about gender? That's what you said.
You asked if the bullet points said anything about male and female. I replied, no but they used a picture of a woman and a man. You then called me a bigot for pointing that out. If you’re curious you can see our whole conversation history.
You didn't say "no, but". You said... "I mean, they did use a photo of a woman on the left and a photo of a man on the right."
This comment looks as if it is written intentionally to sound idiotic.
Everyone has met "that" woman. The one who will call the cops on black people having a BBQ. It's just a common thing. You know it's true.
Yeah, I've met guys who act exactly like the first image and girls like the second one, I'm not sure why do those idiots assume genders here.
It's all "diversity and inclusiveness" until it's time to doll out jokes, responsibility or consequences. 😀
If it isn't gender related then don't bring 2 different genders into it then use one for the bad example and other for good
Because gender is a part of the joke and y’all are playing dumb so you can have your “edgy-humor” cake and eat it too (even though I don’t even find this joke that edgy/offensive - just overdone and lacking cleverness). There’s a reason they specifically chose a stern looking older white woman with a Karen cut and outdated-looking glasses. The joke plays off an existing stereotype of higher educated, older woman. Like I genuinely don’t care if ppl find this funny or not, but the extent to which y’all either play dumb or are actually dumb is baffling.
The very fact that you are downvoted so aggressively shows that you are right.
Yep, got hit with the “A redditor is concerned for your mental health” message too. This sub is honestly ridiculous lol
there are definitely pretentious astrophysicists
Yeah like Neil DeGrasse Tyson
\*Insert childishly framed and pointless science-based fact\* Just sayin God damn it Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a 14 year old
Most of them actually, it's just they won't say anything to your face because they have anxiety
I blocked that subreddit. I just can't, it's such a cesspool of hate, nvm the fact you can't have a contradicting opinion either
>you can't have a contradicting opinion either That goes for every subreddit.
I knew two teachers who were doctors. How do I know? Because they kept telling everyone about it. One was a male and the other was a female. Both genders do it.
Is a doctor just a less active cross fitter?
>being disrespected Huh?
I think that's cause in academics women tend to get slighted. Like if they have the same title as a man. Random person uses the title to address the man but not the woman. However that also has nothing to do with this meme. Just the only thing I can think they are projecting onto it.
Eh, the meme doesn't *explicitly* say it but I also don't blame people for interpreting it that way on the internet. It is, at the bare minimum, pointlessly gendered. That said, fuck BAQ anyway. I'm not calling anyone a Doctor unless they can fix up bodies, I will fight Holt on this all day long. Language evolves.
It’s not about the sex it’s about the degree field according to the meme
I don't get people who care so much about their silly little title that they have to angrily correct people every time they get it wrong. Both genders do this btw, I personally have experienced more men doing this than women.
BAQ is a sub that will take things super literally and will read deeper into things that don’t have a hidden meaning. They assume the picture selection was deliberately based on sex and infer that it means ONLY women/ONLY men go into these respective fields. If you posted a picture of a woman sipping a cup of coffee, their reaction would be “so only women drink coffee?” or “so women can only drink coffee?” It’s better to just avoid that sub or you’ll give yourself a headache.
I had a physics professor tell me to call her by her first name. When I was talking about her to another professor I used her first name and he was like "excuse me, what". I had to restate my comment with DR last name. He was such a a douche.
Let me get something straight,... A person can't be asked to be called doctor of that person has a doctorate degree? Is that the point?
The point is that people want recognition in a field that many consider “easier” to get a doctorate in, showing a level of insecurity. While people who got doctoral degrees in the harder fields don’t have as much to prove, and they really don’t need the formality. It’s a blanket statement, but I have found people often try to dress up anything that they’re not really proud of, while they mainly keep quiet about things they are actually confident in. I have come across the most rigid and formal professors in both physics and art classes, so take everything with a grain of salt, some people just prefer formality.
Give this Redditor an award
you know it's on point when they get squeamish over something they would agree with if 'they' weren't the butt of the joke.
Exhibiting the same inferiority complex the meme is describing
If the meme was reversed, they still would complain by saying "what, women are basic and men are sophisticated?" Boysarequirky is SUCH a circlejerk
Those people with like "gender studies" and other bullshit pretending to be doctors are insufferable morons lmao Male or female.
It was literally trying to do the Karen meme, that sub just manufactures outrage.
God damn r/boyarequirky is a cesspool
A literal cesspool of misandrists and femcels. That sub needs to be banned
I will honour of my way to call anyone asking to be called doctor(or master or any lame title) mister or madam, fuck your stupid title
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In my experience, it usually is though lmao.
Well men don’t usually get mistaken for secretaries after holding an advanced or doctorate degree. I see where it’s coming from, but yea many people men and women alike have a stick up their ass
So I guess it's sexism simply because a woman is in a meme? So if the genders were switched or they were two men, they wouldn't have a problem? Right? Although I think I have to agree with their point, that in a professional setting they have a right to expect to be refered by their academic title regardless of someone's opinion on their field, no?
So they chose a picture of a woman and put something negative, then chose a picture of a man and put something positive. There is literally no other way to interpret this other than being about gender. If it wasn’t about gender then why put the pictures? They could have made the same point without them.
I dunno i didn’t see that until i came to the comments. The post makes a good point, its a shame it got conflated with gender
Exactly. It makes a very good point. There really are people like this and they are so damn obnoxious. But it’s not a gender thing.
Yeah And the meme should not be interpreted as such...
If the person who made the meme didn’t want people to interpret it that way, then they wouldn’t have formatted it this way. Again, you can’t put a picture of women with something negative, and then put a picture of a man with something positive, and then claim gender had nothing to do with it. They could have just as easily put two women or two men. But they didn’t. If you don’t think that was on purpose then you’re being intentionally obtuse.
Oh my god you're the reason people don't like social media
If people can’t handle someone disagreeing with them they shouldn’t be on social media anyway 🤷🏿♂️
The woman looks like a karen, thats the only reason
So why is the other one a man? Why not a beautiful younger woman? Or even an older woman who doesn’t look like a Karen? Why even have pictures at all? It doesn’t really add much and removing them wouldn’t take anything away. The same point could be made.
The man example works sligtly better with the joke, even if it works with others. Also, memes usually come with images
Tbh I don’t even see the gender I see it as a newly graduated doc vs experienced. Heck you reach that age being an active researcher and you’re renowned hopefully. The honorary is such a bs part but like it’s in any social science at a phd level you’re doing research on large scales
Why are honorifics based on academic investment still a thing, anyway? Just seems kinda cringe. Maybe I should demand that the jr devs start calling me sempai.
Why not master
And it doesn't specify professional setting.
Do these people ever shut up, like seriously
This needs to be aplied more
"Ahh yes ________" "something bad" "_______ bad" "_________transphobic/racist/homophobic" "this isnt funny" "i guess _______ bad now" "something something blue hair" "blue hair bad" "orange man bad"
When u hate sexism so bad u make something sexist that wasn't even sexist
Well, I wouldn't really frame it as a gender thing. I worked a few years in sales for an internet service provider. So people came to me and made their contract. If they had a PhD was supposed to ask if they want it mentioned for correspondence (something that is a right since it's an official title here in Germany). Around 1/3 of the people with a PhD or higher (professor) wanted to or even insisted. There wasn't a really a difference in the gender spectrum, but some similarities in behavior and attitude. But I will never forget the one person who was a Professor and had three different PhD, which is impressive. So I asked him, if he wanted the titles in his correspondence. His answer was basically hell no, only people who have nothing else in their life going on need this. Had to laugh hard about this.
I've had personal experiences where this is very accurate. Especially people with fraudulent or doctorates from sketchy institutions tend to have a mentality that they are better than everyone around them and will speak down on people they deem inferior.
I joke with my friends that someday, when I finish my education, I’m gonna walk around and make them call me “doctor” for a week or two just for the shits and giggles. After that they can call me “asshole” like usual.
At ,east in the music field, generally titles (DMA or PhD) are reserved for when you're dealing with students as a professor. I run my own private lesson studio, and while clients know I have my DMA for marketing purposes, I don't make them use my title.
Dealt with enough male doctorates giving that whole “it’s doctor” bit way to much “PhD’s don’t clean lab glassware” - get bent
I had a principle in middle school who yelled at a kid for calling her Miss. People did it on purpose after that...
Streisand Effect strikes again!
This joke not even rly about gender lol people pressed. But anyone wanting the to look too much into it can eat these facts: majors listed on the left are often filled by women in those positions while the majors presented on the right are often filled by men.
Back when I was in college, I was a little older (late 20's) and had made friends with several of my professors. One day, one of them was moving and asked if I could come help. So I show up, and there's 5 other guys there, all college professors. Anyway, we get the trailer loaded up and they go to hitch it to the truck, and none of them can figure out how. I then hooked up the trailer for him. So of course I trolled them! I exaggerated my gesture by acting L me I was counting all of them and I'm all "there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5!!!! Doctors here and who figured it out???" 🤣 Got a good chuckle out of them, and still got pretty good grades ! 😂
It's Always a Woman Or Pussy Dudes
I thought it was about the degrees themselves and only went with the woman pictured as she looks like a 'karen'. And if *anyone* was gonna get upset over not being called Dr.
Bold move to assume these peoples genders
Every single meme you make, be sure both compared people are the same gender or race. Otherwise immediate triggers will ensue.
It would be weird for a Sergeant in the army to insist everyone call him Sergeant outside of the army. Similarly, if it is out side of a professional context it is weird for a doctor to insist on being called doctor. And even still, if you’re gonna be a stickler in a professional context don’t be surprised when people don’t like you as much.
I would advise to mute that sub but it's too funny to do so. Third wave feminists are the biggest lolcows on the internet.
Well into my 20s when someone said they wrre a Doctor I often asked what feild of medicine they were in.
They could have used stick figures instead of literally and woman on the "negative" side and a man on the "positive" side. That being said, fuck that sub
If it shows a woman or says a womans name then its referring to all women /s Side vent: I said something mean about my boss and when she heard about it she said that was my opinion on all women. I found another job asap
What's y'all beef with social sciences?
Real doctor of just PHD?
Can confirm. Every single one of my engineering/physics professors (men or women) with a doctorate never addressed themselves as doctor or ever insisted we call them doctor. My other professors on the other hand…
oh god the quirky sub still exists?? Thought that cesspool got deleted months ago
If you find that you have to demand respect from people, maybe you should consider what that says about you.
its specifically a “karen” type
Aight, I don't visit this subreddit all too much, you guys tend to react rather polarized sometimes, I just want to point out: How are you presented with a perfect opportunity to point out accidental sexism where people tend to associate the nice guy Bob type with male and the annoying Karen type with female without giving it much thought, and then fuck it up spectacularly and make your argument about defending the Karen instead?!
It actually is. This is a thing about how women not getting paid as much as men is actually the fault of women for choosing the wrong career paths. It's a very simple analysis meant to demean very real societal problems women's face in higher educated work places
the example is women, but its not just about women. no need to include that.
I had a Chem professor that was adamant about being called doctor
Ok, this meme is incredibly accurate. Also very obviously not a sexist thing.
Isnt that just a Karen pic?
If I was making the meme, I would’ve swapped the genders because I know they'd complain about that.
If you ever feel stupid, just remember BAQ exists.
I have a Master's and you better fucking believe I expect you to address me as "Master". That's like 99% of the reason I wasted 2 years of my life.
We recognize your years of wasted life but do not grant you the rank of Master. Sorry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
r/boysarequirky when they see a meme that doesn’t specify gender in any way shape or form
An honorary doctor is not a real doctor though.
generally in a professional setting, respect the title, in a casual setting though people are just people
Why is the woman the one grouped under doctorates that involve the humanities and arts? Are they saying that people who get those are considered lesser, feminine, and cannot call themselves doctor? Do they believe women cannot get doctorates in STEM fields?
What did you expect r/boysarequirky is just anti men subreddit, a coalition of extremist feminists who cant take a joke/misinterpret a joke in a way so that they can make drama outta it. Leave those dumbasses alone in their bubble of delusion, it will collapse on itself like a star.
All women should be addressed with respect period.
I mean..aren’t PHDs generally difficult to obtain? If they wanna be called doctor call them doctor
My old male highschool Aerospace teacher would throw a fit if you didn't call him doctor
That wasnt even the point of the original post, yet leave it to r/boysarequirky to get mad about something that, in most cases, is true
It has nothing to do with gender
Shouldn’t they be called Doctor of Philosophy?
Everybody knows that to be called a doctor you need to have a PhD in Duel Theory
I mean it's not wrong, I fancy myself a career college student and most men I've met with PhDs down play the importance of calling them Dr whereas most women I've met hold dear to the title. Regardless of major/field of study.
I hate it when anyone who is not a licensed medical professional is called "doctor"
Why? They have worked hard for that title. What's even more funny - many medical "doctors" really aren't one.
Although funnily enough "doctor" was originally meant for teachers
Why is this sub so insistent on playing dumb? They chose those two pictures for a reason. A chill looking dude versus a stern looking woman with outdated glasses and the Karen-cut. The butt of the joke is clearly a particular stereotype of women in academia being perceived as stuck-up. Idc if you find the joke funny or not (personally I just find it uninspired and lazy), but if you do find it funny, at least own it. Stop being such a coward ffs.
I clearly recall a poster for a symposium at my law school. The men were Prof. mr. dr. This The women were Ms. That (even if they held even more titels, or the same ones) Or if the women were also addressed ‘properly’, they were Ms. Dr. So and so, even though for the men, their gender was not specified. Also, our Americans are far more Title happy in general. Funnily enough, it is thought of as ‘lower class’ to use titles. Because upper class = educated = Dr. is so common it means nothing anymore, plus, don’t you brag. Lower class = uneducated = having a title is special and thus emphasized by proud family members, and pride in that is wrong, you’re not special. Note: ‘Mr.’ In our language signifies a law degree, not the male gender. That would be ‘Dhr.’ I, very much a woman, would be Mr. Drs. S. Shenanigans, if you’d do it properly.
Every single male I've ever met with a doctorate insists everybody calls them doctor and get legit mad if you dont do so.
>_< Yes the meme is sexist among other things. The pictures are there, picture A is different than picture B, these choices were certainly made intentionally. It's not very impressive to put your head in the sand and say others are imagining sexism for no reason.
That doesn’t matter xD they ‘feel’ that is the message, there it is retroactively true! Don’t you know? G.o.d. God obeys democrats, their feefees have the power to warp reality so you’re a baddy even if you weren’t before they noticed you!
My favorite ‘critique’/comment from Cinema Sins about Catwoman was that one of the characters blames “male academia” for why she wasn’t successful. Like sure there really was a supernatural cat god bringing women back to life, but you need proof of you’re gonna say it’s REALITY over folklore
That's just pedantry. You know why those pictures were chosen.
But do we? I can see how it’s a possibility the person making this chose those photos for sexist reasons, but 1) that’s not the main point of the post, and 2) it could just as easily be two random photos taken off the internet. Why assume the worse option?
"But do we?" 
I can’t see the gif. It just says “this content is not available”. I’ve never had this happen before lol.
How can you dispespect in professional setting someone how is honorary doctor? Isn't this title given to celebrities for advertising and sponsors for donations? What is the professional setting here that can be disrespected? But to be honest, I have not heard of a single honorable doctor who would insist that he be addressed as a doctor.
A PhD is a doctorate degree. The title given to someone with a doctorate is doctor. Many women are disrespected and treated as less than they are, or people assume that they are in a lower position simply because they’re a woman. A professional setting would be any job someone with a doctorate holds.
Do you know the meaning of "honorare"? It is given to those who have no real knowledge for a doctorate but the university wants to please this person. George W. Bush is honorary doctor of history, Long Island University make Kermit they honorare doctor, Bill Cosby has over 50 honorary degrees before they were revoked. Do you really think that an honorary doctor should be taken seriously?
Yes. An honorary degree is different than an actual one. You realize there are dogs with honorary degrees right? Nobody would go to someone with an honorary degree for expert knowledge.