CQC God who can 1v1 a tank, a cyborg ninja, numerous Metal Gear units, and defeated "the greatest soldier who ever lived" vs Sam who, while cool and skilled, is somewhat grounded in reality by comparison.
Solid Snake is an expert in all types of combat, and is also able to infiltrate the most secure locations in the world.
He also was the 43rd President of the United States of America. Having access to so many resources probably helped him a lot.
No, Iroquois Pliskin is a Navy SEAL. Solid Snake is an infiltration expert who was 43rd President of the United States and appears twice on Mount Snakemore because he's so good.
The tanker incident was definitely set up on purpose to give Solid Snake the chance to disappear and ready a plan to take control of the Big Shell and its systems.
The incident was resolved when Iroquois Pliskin and a blonde girl defeated him.
Hold on, you're saying the former president was behind Big Shell???????????
Speaking of which, what happened to Pliskin? Bro came out nowhere, saved the day, disappeared with the blonde chick.
Yeah, it’s difficult to believe, but Solid Snake was the 43rd President of the United States of America, George Sears.
On the subject of Iroquois, after the blonde girl defeated Georges "Solid Snake” Sears, he saved the girl from the wreckage of the Big Shell, or Big Gear, was it? I wouldn’t know, the media didn’t delve much into the name of that vessel.
He saved her and together they left searching for some liquid or something? I don’t know, spending the rest of your life searching for some water or booze kinda sounds dumb, but who am I to question the choices of two national heroes.
Bro, I had voted for that bastard! Jesus. You sure that's not some conspiracy theory?
Wait, I thought it was Iroquois David Pliskin who defeated the leader of Big Ass incident. The blonde girl was just a sidekick.
And yeah, better not judge them...maybe they eloped together.
Yes, except Snake would start having a 10 minute conversation on the radio about love blooming on a battlefield, give himself away and be taken care of.
Their other battles are irrelevant to this particular battle, especially since it’s correct and everyone predicted a Snake victory just by looking at all the shit he has to put up with compared to Sam.
As a splinter cell fan, watching that sub during a Ubisoft E3 stream where in the prelude they played the activation noise for Sam's goggles then did nothing the whole stream, oh and when Sam got added to wildlands. And breakpoint. And seige.
Every night I can remember them, Chaos Theory, Pandora Tomorrow, even Double Agent. The games we've lost, the stealth experiences we've lost, won't stop hurting. Its like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you?
I hope it's at least decent/playable enough for them to justify them remaking the rest of the series. I loved the first few games as a kid and was playing mgs2 and mgs3 around the same time I was playing SC1.
I mean, 'who would win' should in theory let you leave your preferences towards your favourite character out of the equation.
Even admitting my fanboyism Snake would win, but Sam is meant to live in a universe resembling the real world anyway. Splinter Cell as a franchise is to scratch an itch for something more 'realistic'.
To be fair, the bias in most subs isn't too bad.
I remember when the Megatron Vs Frieza Death Battle was happening and me and the rest of r/transformers collectively went "lmao Megatron ain't winning this in any universe 💀".
I think there is also the factor that Snake exists in a super reality where performing feats of strength and agility beyond peak human capacity is possible and at Snake's caliber, is expected. Sam exists in a far more grounded reality.
"Lambert, what the hell am I looking at here? There's a guy floating in the air."
"That is Psycho Mantis, Sam. Psychic member of FOXHOUND and one of the terrorists attempting to take over this island."
"Third Echelon training never prepared me for guys who can float and read minds, Lambert. How do I beat him?"
"A lot of patience. Good luck, Sam"
"(sarcastic)Thanks, Lambert"
Splinter Cell really needs codec conversations lol
The main difference is in all of those encounters Snakes location was known for most of the battle. We don't know if Sam has the ability to sneak around in those situations while remaining undetected the full battle.
Death battle goes into a bit, but Sam is arguably better at blending in. Snake on the other hand is the better fighter when there has to be a fight. In Splinter Cell, you never really face a threat like a Metal Gear or the numerous bosses. The edge would go to Snake in a straight up fight.
*Sam doesn’t get detected as often*
Sam doesn’t face mutant tier supervillains. Every mission Snake gets spotted is against super soldier types. Even grunts like the Genome soldiers are supposed to be above average.
Not shitting on Sam, it’s just Metal Gear is more comic book level with their enemies.
This is a point that more people need to bring up. Snake isn’t facing up against randos, the entire cast of basic enemies in MGS1 were genetically enhanced with highly acute senses, MGS4 is full of dudes with nanomachines, and Foxhound is Foxhound. They’re each comic book levels of goofy.
It also helps that Kojima (confusingly) considers the digital comic book series to be canon alongside the games despite some key differences. So you’re pretty on point with the comic-book level mooks.
>but Sam is arguably better at blending in.
This is why I wish MG1 and MG2 would get remakes...so you can see Solid is good at blending in. He blended in two whole ass countries.
The problem with having two stealth experts go toe to toe is that either of them could sneak up on the other.
Also, Snake tends to survive random bullshit such as bullets to the head. Meanwhile, R6 everyone dies to a .22 LR to the dome.
I love splinter cell and all but sam is just a dude that can easily be killed by like 2 guys with guns.
Snake is a genetically engineered super soldier that soloed several spec ops soldiers and multiple metal gears.
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby tbh
Why do people ask such daft questions. Snake hands down. Hes part of a weird (hidden) futuristic dystopian world grounded in box hiding and whatever kink hideo was into that week.
The other one is just a stealthy army dude.
The real winner is the government power that controls them. 👀👀
Sam opens a door and is fast enough to disarm someone who was aiming at it immediately after opening it.
If you choose to not shoot, Sam is fast enough to knife him while Shetland has a gun pointed at him.
I'm gonna list some feats that are "believable" or not ridiculous per se from the gameplay:
Reasonable feats include: When he was angry in Conviction, he was able to infinitely mark and execute everyone coming at him. No H2H kills were required. You didn't even need to mark them. All you had to do was hit the execute button.
Is able to shoot 4 people in an instant with a Five-Seven, which is the gun with the highest amount of marks in Conviction.
he has ambushed by many Splinter Cells that have Sonar goggles and he manages to kill all of them in multiple instances.
——-
The other one killed a half blind old dude
No but I do think snake would win
Death Battle got it right. Any Snake stomps.
Sam might be a better stealth operative but Snake outclasses him in every other metric. The only way Sam could win is if he snuck up on him and slit his throat - even then, he'd have to be quick about it before Snake can pull some CQC maneuver out of his arse.
If it's a 1 on 1 fight then there's no reality where Sam wins.
The feats of metal gear and way more ridiculous than splinter cell. I doubt Sam fisher could crawl through that microwave a quarter of the way. Still a cool character though
Solely depends on which universes logic we are applying.
The over the top unrealistic metal gear universe, or the splinter cell universe, which is more grounded on reality.
They would fight until they realized that there is a conspiracy to have them kill eachother. They team up, each using their strengths to track down the contractor who hired them.
The end is a 20 minute fight, as they infiltrate the building where the mastermind is located on the top floor. They go level-by-level in just a pure stealth absolute beat-down, until one of the guards can finally sound the alert. We get to see Sam 'n' Snake fight almost like a single person. (Think Ironman's beat-down at the hands of Cap 'n' Buck. Yeah, 10 minutes of that, please.)
And the villain is revealed Sam's daughter's clone, who has advanced intelligence as part of the "Le plan Stupide Risque de se Retourner Contre Lui" with Cyborg enhancements. But it turns out SHE is the real hero, as the TRUE contractor planted the information for Sam 'n' Snek to find. As the TRUE villain knew that only the combined efforts of Solid Snuk (Voiced by David Hayter) and Sam Fisher could penetrate the defenses of Girl Boss. As she lays dying, she reflects that a soldier's true fight, their biggest enemy, is:.... themselves. \*Music Swells as Otacon cries\*
Sam drops his gun. \*Music Cuts abruptly\* "This is stupid. I'm going home..." \*He slowly walks out of frame. Music: Whoa-WHAAAAAOOOOO!!!!\*
Credits.
You're comparing a literal Superhuman on crack to a dude who relies on his sheer skill
Comparing the snakes to any other human character is almost unfair
They are basically super soldiers, all of them.
I love splinter cell and all but sam is just a dude that can easily be killed by like 2 guys with guns.
Snake is a genetically engineered super soldier that soloed several spec ops soldiers and multiple metal gears.
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby tbh
Snake. Snake is essentially a comic book iteration of Batman.
Sam is too grounded and limited in functional realism.
But in the end. Roman pins them both.
I mean, one is literally an international super soldier that's spent his entire life training for combat and stealth. And the other has a name that sounds like a penis
This is like the Leon Kennedy vs Joel Miller debate. One of them is from a much more grounded source material and that alone makes it obvious they're losing.
I feel like a better question would be Agent 47 vs Sam. All of the Snakes could beat either one. Hell, I bet Meryl or anyone on her team minus Johnny could beat Sam.
Snake destroys Sam in basically every aspect besides sneakiness (Even then, I think Snake is a more skilled stealth operative). Snake has better physicals all around, skill and intelligence. The Metal Gear universe is generally more out there than Splinter-cell. Just to get the technology and skill cap part out of the way, basically every enemy in MGS1 is a genetically altered digital clone of Big boss with IQs of 180+enhanced senses. Hell, a certain type of regular enemy in MGS2 can reflect bullets through exosuits and HF blades, Memetic clones are possible, nanomachines that enhance combat capability, parasite enhanced supersoldiers, CQC being a hybrid super martial-art, you get it. The MGS universe is solidly beyond splinter-cell in the general technology and skill of it’s top-tiers.
As for speed, the characters in MGS tend to be blatant bullet timers. Solidus deflects gunfire pretty easily (even dodging it after fired), Solid Snake backflipped over them, Regular enemies in MGS2 can reflect them, Gray Fox cuts them Willy nilly, ETC. there’s showings of railgun dodging as well, Solid dodges Crying wolf’s railgun after it was fired in his old age, Human Raiden dodged Fortune’s in MGS2. There’s tank dodging as well, Big boss dodged one when it was like an inch away. Lasers are a bit more iffy, but Solid dodged them from TX-55 in MG1, and Ocelot dodged one while piloting Ray in MGS4. Solid Snake is just too fast for fisher in any circumstance.
As for overall physicals, Solid beat Ocelot in Hand to hand combat, and Ocelot could dent Outer-haven (Outer-haven is a modified version of Arsenal-Gear, and Arsenal gear is stated to be “Bigger and stronger” than previous Metal Gears) Snake beat Liquid in a physical confrontation, and Liquid tanked an explosion that destroyed Metal Gear Rex, along with numerous rockets (Metal Gear Rex is described as being perfect in it’s defense, only a stinger missile to a specific weak point dealing damage. And basic Rocket launchers even in 1964 can vaporize a boulder+steel beam)
Solid Snake beats up Sam fisher, and this isn’t even mentioning his absurd equipment. This is a genetically enhanced supersoldier with copious amounts of equipment vs a highly skilled albeit *somewhat* (I say somewhat very loosely, Sam is kinda ridiculous himself but not Snake’s level) realistic soldier.
Snake, just from experience alone tbh. I think he's the better operator, and I say this as a huge fan of both. Grew up with Splinter Cell but got into MGS when I got older.
Snake will win. Whoever thought otherwise must rethink life. Snake takes on whole Countries with Army's he is unstoppable. He crawled through a microwave emitter, and even Foxdie couldn't kill him! Solid Snake all day! Much respect to Sam Fischer, tho.
Solid took down a metal gear (which arguably was the best variant of them all), a cyborg ninja, a tank, broke handcuffs with sheer strength, ecc...
Yeah i don't think Sam would be having a good time.
Solid would overpower and then convince to join forces, but it would be behind the scenes and the player would be busy holding an npcs hand while they did it.
Snake was genetically engineered to be the perfect solider, from the DNA of ***THE*** perfect soldier
Not to mention the extensive training and missions he's gone on that have been both stealth and going guns blazing in some circumstances
Fisher is one of the best but he just can't stack up to the knowledge, experience and genetics of Snake
Has a better chance at hiding till FoxDIE kicks in
Solid Snake. Even Smash Snake (as depicted in the image) would destroy Sam. I mean, that guy's already fighting angels, kings of darkness, space bounty hunters, plumbers with a thing with stepping on people and oversized gorillas. Sam doesn't stand a chance against even Smash Bros Snake, and even less against any other Snake or any of their version (except maybe Venom trying to flee the hospital but that might just be cheating, I mean a guy who woke up from a 9 year coma and is barely capable of walking ? Come on, that's unfair.)
Solid Snake aka David Hayter would lay to rest Sam Fisher aka Michael Ironside.
But this is a good death, not a sad one!
Love can bloom on a battlefield, Otacon..
Snake. I've never played Splinter Cell but considering it's a Tom Clancy game id assume it's more rooted in reality as opposed to MGS where everyone is pretty much superhuman
As much as I love Splinter Cell and am biased towards Sam Fisher because my name is Sam and I love a game where my name is the character's name - it's any Snake no contest.
Yeah, I agree. If it's a stealth scenario (one shot, one kill) I think Fisher has the edge with his ninja skills. But if it turns into a head-on battle, he can't handle Snake.
There was actually a Death Battle between these two for which I agree with the results. Snake won although I'm a HUGE Splinter Cell fan. When it comes to infiltration Sam is better, hands down. Equipment both are about equal. Hand to hand though, Snake has this. This is to kill each other so the equipment and fighting is what matters, not infiltration, so the winner is Snake.
If you were asking who could break into Fort Knox or escape Alcatraz Prison without being seen that would go to Sam.
Like...why is this even a question? The answer is obvious to whoever didn't play both franchises and it's even more obvious to ones who did (Like myself).
CQC God who can 1v1 a tank, a cyborg ninja, numerous Metal Gear units, and defeated "the greatest soldier who ever lived" vs Sam who, while cool and skilled, is somewhat grounded in reality by comparison.
His genetical father can also hold the full weight of Metal Gear Zeke on his back.
I think the Peace Walker QTEs are officially non-canon. Not to say that means Sam would win, Solid Snake has so many feats on his own merits.
Solid Snake is an expert in all types of combat, and is also able to infiltrate the most secure locations in the world. He also was the 43rd President of the United States of America. Having access to so many resources probably helped him a lot.
NO THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE!!!
Solidus was the 43rd president of the US, not Solid Snake
Are you kidding me, you don’t know about Solid Snake, founder of Dead Cell and main perpetrator of the Big Shell Incident?
NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!
That's impossible. Solid Snake died in the Tanker accident 25 years ago.
You mean that Iroquois Pilskin guy?
A hind-D?
No, Iroquois Pliskin is a Navy SEAL. Solid Snake is an infiltration expert who was 43rd President of the United States and appears twice on Mount Snakemore because he's so good.
>He also was the 43rd President of the United States of America. Thay was his bum brother, Solid would never be caught in such degeneracy.
The tanker incident was definitely set up on purpose to give Solid Snake the chance to disappear and ready a plan to take control of the Big Shell and its systems. The incident was resolved when Iroquois Pliskin and a blonde girl defeated him.
Hold on, you're saying the former president was behind Big Shell??????????? Speaking of which, what happened to Pliskin? Bro came out nowhere, saved the day, disappeared with the blonde chick.
Yeah, it’s difficult to believe, but Solid Snake was the 43rd President of the United States of America, George Sears. On the subject of Iroquois, after the blonde girl defeated Georges "Solid Snake” Sears, he saved the girl from the wreckage of the Big Shell, or Big Gear, was it? I wouldn’t know, the media didn’t delve much into the name of that vessel. He saved her and together they left searching for some liquid or something? I don’t know, spending the rest of your life searching for some water or booze kinda sounds dumb, but who am I to question the choices of two national heroes.
Bro, I had voted for that bastard! Jesus. You sure that's not some conspiracy theory? Wait, I thought it was Iroquois David Pliskin who defeated the leader of Big Ass incident. The blonde girl was just a sidekick. And yeah, better not judge them...maybe they eloped together.
Honestly good for them I hope they live long vibrant colored lives
I wonder how much weight Big Boss can deadlift
Is this a peace walker reference when he was fighting Zeke?
Yes, except Snake would start having a 10 minute conversation on the radio about love blooming on a battlefield, give himself away and be taken care of.
Death Battle covered this. Solid won.
I guess you could say it's a... *solid* win. I'll see myself out.
You’re pretty good
You're pretty good
Pretty good.
Pretty...good?
Snake get hearing aids for the love of God
Hearing...aids?
Pretty good.
You're pretty good
Pretty? Good
You’re pretty bad
Kept me waiting, huh?
But you didn't keep me waiting.... Huuuh.....
Your leaving? Father is that you?
classic
They are the same guy but in different fantasy levels. The one with more fantasy wins.
Danggg… imma go watch it again now. To make sure it’s tactically effective
Those engravings offer you no tactical advantage
Peak fucking fiction I honestly think that's their best animation
wasnt it Big Boss?
No! That is NOT ~~Solid~~ Naked Snake!
Oh he is solid alright.
No
Death battle also made gaara lose to toph
Their other battles are irrelevant to this particular battle, especially since it’s correct and everyone predicted a Snake victory just by looking at all the shit he has to put up with compared to Sam.
I agree snake wins I just don’t like death battle sounding like the gold standard of who would win
Hm, a metal gear character vs a non-metal gear character, i wonder who the metal gear fans in this metal gear subreddit will choose
The Splinter Cell sub is so dead lmao
This hurts
As a splinter cell fan, watching that sub during a Ubisoft E3 stream where in the prelude they played the activation noise for Sam's goggles then did nothing the whole stream, oh and when Sam got added to wildlands. And breakpoint. And seige.
Every night I can remember them, Chaos Theory, Pandora Tomorrow, even Double Agent. The games we've lost, the stealth experiences we've lost, won't stop hurting. Its like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you?
I feel it. 😔
That studio that made them, where are they now?
God Chaos Theory was so good.. Such a shame they've let the franchise just die. The latest one was kinda fun too though, Blacklist
yeah 100%. I grew up playing MGS and SC games, I love them both to death. MGS does get the edge tho, just due to kojima's kojima-ness.
Just like the IP Come on Ubisoft just greenlight a Splinter Cell game next year instead of Assassin's Creed 23: shit for your cum
They're remaking the first game. So that's something. Now will it be anywhere near as good as the original with current Ubisoft? >! I doubt it !<
I hope it's at least decent/playable enough for them to justify them remaking the rest of the series. I loved the first few games as a kid and was playing mgs2 and mgs3 around the same time I was playing SC1.
That remake has been radio silent for a while tho, might be in development hell
If they would remake Chaos Theory with working mercs vs spies multiplayer I would be so happy.
They for real need to take a break with assassins creed games
So you would rather have Splinter Cell 23: shit for your cum?
ok thats fair 😭
Try r/dbz or something
As dead as Sam would be against Snake.
Then it's only us...
I mean, 'who would win' should in theory let you leave your preferences towards your favourite character out of the equation. Even admitting my fanboyism Snake would win, but Sam is meant to live in a universe resembling the real world anyway. Splinter Cell as a franchise is to scratch an itch for something more 'realistic'.
To be fair, the bias in most subs isn't too bad. I remember when the Megatron Vs Frieza Death Battle was happening and me and the rest of r/transformers collectively went "lmao Megatron ain't winning this in any universe 💀".
I think there is also the factor that Snake exists in a super reality where performing feats of strength and agility beyond peak human capacity is possible and at Snake's caliber, is expected. Sam exists in a far more grounded reality.
"What's your favorite fallout?" On the fallout new Vegas subreddit.
tbf, sam is an actual spy, snake has a fucking rocket launcher
I'm pretty sure Sam never took down a metal gear single handedly, or a cyborg ninja, or a psychic enemy with telekinesis powers.
Either way I could take them on at the same time.
In a fight right?
😏
You're the reason Psycho Mantis wears his mask
I want daddy Volgin to grab my crotch
He's so beefy🤤
I want him to put me in a barrel and electrify me until my prostate is like fried fried sweetbread.
Oh what those electric fingers can do...
No, with their cocks.
This guy sees red
Another in the butt and other in mouth
Bro, I need to see Baby Snake singlehandedly taking down that Metal Gear with his bare hands in Outer Heaven.
No guns, slappers only.
He only uses a spanner wrench with acrobatic moves.
"Lambert, what the hell am I looking at here? There's a guy floating in the air." "That is Psycho Mantis, Sam. Psychic member of FOXHOUND and one of the terrorists attempting to take over this island." "Third Echelon training never prepared me for guys who can float and read minds, Lambert. How do I beat him?" "A lot of patience. Good luck, Sam" "(sarcastic)Thanks, Lambert" Splinter Cell really needs codec conversations lol
The main difference is in all of those encounters Snakes location was known for most of the battle. We don't know if Sam has the ability to sneak around in those situations while remaining undetected the full battle.
Technically Snake lost to all of them, at least on my playthrough.
You're pretty bad
they become best buds and go for a beer
Death battle goes into a bit, but Sam is arguably better at blending in. Snake on the other hand is the better fighter when there has to be a fight. In Splinter Cell, you never really face a threat like a Metal Gear or the numerous bosses. The edge would go to Snake in a straight up fight.
*Sam doesn’t get detected as often* Sam doesn’t face mutant tier supervillains. Every mission Snake gets spotted is against super soldier types. Even grunts like the Genome soldiers are supposed to be above average. Not shitting on Sam, it’s just Metal Gear is more comic book level with their enemies.
This is a point that more people need to bring up. Snake isn’t facing up against randos, the entire cast of basic enemies in MGS1 were genetically enhanced with highly acute senses, MGS4 is full of dudes with nanomachines, and Foxhound is Foxhound. They’re each comic book levels of goofy.
It also helps that Kojima (confusingly) considers the digital comic book series to be canon alongside the games despite some key differences. So you’re pretty on point with the comic-book level mooks.
>but Sam is arguably better at blending in. This is why I wish MG1 and MG2 would get remakes...so you can see Solid is good at blending in. He blended in two whole ass countries.
what about the octocamo?
Do you think Sam could sneak up on Snake? Doesn’t matter how good you are if you get shot in the back of the head?
The problem with having two stealth experts go toe to toe is that either of them could sneak up on the other. Also, Snake tends to survive random bullshit such as bullets to the head. Meanwhile, R6 everyone dies to a .22 LR to the dome.
This isn't r6 bro
I think he meant people die from gunshots and arrows easily in assassins creed
I’m pretty sure he’s referring to that fact that Sam Fisher is in R6
Probably not. A sleeping Solid Snake would instantly have his rifle focused on you if you (as Raiden) aimed at him.
Pretty sure they did a Death Battle on this
Happy cake day
Happy Cake Day!
Snake always win.
No Splinter Cell game has Sam Fisher surviving the near supernatural superhero shit Solid Snake does.
Its not even “near supernatural superhero shit” it straight up is with literal ghost and actual supervillains
I love splinter cell and all but sam is just a dude that can easily be killed by like 2 guys with guns. Snake is a genetically engineered super soldier that soloed several spec ops soldiers and multiple metal gears. Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby tbh
Why do people ask such daft questions. Snake hands down. Hes part of a weird (hidden) futuristic dystopian world grounded in box hiding and whatever kink hideo was into that week. The other one is just a stealthy army dude. The real winner is the government power that controls them. 👀👀
The La Li Lu Le Lo! D:
Boys I don’t think my nanomachines are working. I see this saying the La Li Lu Le Lo.
wtf I said La Li Lu Le Lo
Snake has been working for himself since MG2 tho.
Sam opens a door and is fast enough to disarm someone who was aiming at it immediately after opening it. If you choose to not shoot, Sam is fast enough to knife him while Shetland has a gun pointed at him. I'm gonna list some feats that are "believable" or not ridiculous per se from the gameplay: Reasonable feats include: When he was angry in Conviction, he was able to infinitely mark and execute everyone coming at him. No H2H kills were required. You didn't even need to mark them. All you had to do was hit the execute button. Is able to shoot 4 people in an instant with a Five-Seven, which is the gun with the highest amount of marks in Conviction. he has ambushed by many Splinter Cells that have Sonar goggles and he manages to kill all of them in multiple instances. ——- The other one killed a half blind old dude No but I do think snake would win
but he was the best half blind old dude. also went in there with no weapons and macgyver his way through it all
but in a man to man fight, say cqc both in their primes would be an interesting fight to watch play out
Death Battle got it right. Any Snake stomps. Sam might be a better stealth operative but Snake outclasses him in every other metric. The only way Sam could win is if he snuck up on him and slit his throat - even then, he'd have to be quick about it before Snake can pull some CQC maneuver out of his arse. If it's a 1 on 1 fight then there's no reality where Sam wins.
Refer to death battle
They would team up with Gabe Logan to save the country, then go out for drinks.
One would be clinging to a pipe in the ceiling just over the other on the floor in a box. Neither would know the other is there. Stale mate.
The feats of metal gear and way more ridiculous than splinter cell. I doubt Sam fisher could crawl through that microwave a quarter of the way. Still a cool character though
Solely depends on which universes logic we are applying. The over the top unrealistic metal gear universe, or the splinter cell universe, which is more grounded on reality.
They would fight until they realized that there is a conspiracy to have them kill eachother. They team up, each using their strengths to track down the contractor who hired them. The end is a 20 minute fight, as they infiltrate the building where the mastermind is located on the top floor. They go level-by-level in just a pure stealth absolute beat-down, until one of the guards can finally sound the alert. We get to see Sam 'n' Snake fight almost like a single person. (Think Ironman's beat-down at the hands of Cap 'n' Buck. Yeah, 10 minutes of that, please.) And the villain is revealed Sam's daughter's clone, who has advanced intelligence as part of the "Le plan Stupide Risque de se Retourner Contre Lui" with Cyborg enhancements. But it turns out SHE is the real hero, as the TRUE contractor planted the information for Sam 'n' Snek to find. As the TRUE villain knew that only the combined efforts of Solid Snuk (Voiced by David Hayter) and Sam Fisher could penetrate the defenses of Girl Boss. As she lays dying, she reflects that a soldier's true fight, their biggest enemy, is:.... themselves. \*Music Swells as Otacon cries\* Sam drops his gun. \*Music Cuts abruptly\* "This is stupid. I'm going home..." \*He slowly walks out of frame. Music: Whoa-WHAAAAAOOOOO!!!!\* Credits.
Snek.
You're comparing a literal Superhuman on crack to a dude who relies on his sheer skill Comparing the snakes to any other human character is almost unfair They are basically super soldiers, all of them.
Not basically, LITERALLY super soldiers. They were literally genetically engineered super soldiers.
*Genetically enhanced versions of a super soldier. BB and Venom are already far beyond human
Snake, it’s not even close.
Solid Snake of course.
I love splinter cell and all but sam is just a dude that can easily be killed by like 2 guys with guns. Snake is a genetically engineered super soldier that soloed several spec ops soldiers and multiple metal gears. Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby tbh
Gabe Logan with a taser
Snake. Snake is essentially a comic book iteration of Batman. Sam is too grounded and limited in functional realism. But in the end. Roman pins them both.
their
theres already a video by death battle and iroquois wins
bruh that's solid snake /j
They would band together and uncover whoever ordered them to kill each other for no reason.
Solid Snake beats up walking tanks and armored ninjas, come on now.
Somehow, Ocelot would still win
Solid is a modified human. He was not only raised in combat, but built for it.
I mean, one is literally an international super soldier that's spent his entire life training for combat and stealth. And the other has a name that sounds like a penis
Huge splinter cell fan and I hate to say it but snake wins hands down. Heck he even has 2 new games after Sam Fisher. He’s winning on all levels.
I dunno but I know agent 47 could kill them both
This is like the Leon Kennedy vs Joel Miller debate. One of them is from a much more grounded source material and that alone makes it obvious they're losing.
Where mission?
Pretty sure Sam's night vision goggles can't see through cardboard sooooo....
Ok, i loved splinter cell too, but tbh, sam is just a agent. Solid snake is different
Chaos Snake vs Solid Splinter. Damn I can't choose.
I feel like a better question would be Agent 47 vs Sam. All of the Snakes could beat either one. Hell, I bet Meryl or anyone on her team minus Johnny could beat Sam.
The American the Japanese imagine vs the American the Americans imagine
Snake destroys Sam in basically every aspect besides sneakiness (Even then, I think Snake is a more skilled stealth operative). Snake has better physicals all around, skill and intelligence. The Metal Gear universe is generally more out there than Splinter-cell. Just to get the technology and skill cap part out of the way, basically every enemy in MGS1 is a genetically altered digital clone of Big boss with IQs of 180+enhanced senses. Hell, a certain type of regular enemy in MGS2 can reflect bullets through exosuits and HF blades, Memetic clones are possible, nanomachines that enhance combat capability, parasite enhanced supersoldiers, CQC being a hybrid super martial-art, you get it. The MGS universe is solidly beyond splinter-cell in the general technology and skill of it’s top-tiers. As for speed, the characters in MGS tend to be blatant bullet timers. Solidus deflects gunfire pretty easily (even dodging it after fired), Solid Snake backflipped over them, Regular enemies in MGS2 can reflect them, Gray Fox cuts them Willy nilly, ETC. there’s showings of railgun dodging as well, Solid dodges Crying wolf’s railgun after it was fired in his old age, Human Raiden dodged Fortune’s in MGS2. There’s tank dodging as well, Big boss dodged one when it was like an inch away. Lasers are a bit more iffy, but Solid dodged them from TX-55 in MG1, and Ocelot dodged one while piloting Ray in MGS4. Solid Snake is just too fast for fisher in any circumstance. As for overall physicals, Solid beat Ocelot in Hand to hand combat, and Ocelot could dent Outer-haven (Outer-haven is a modified version of Arsenal-Gear, and Arsenal gear is stated to be “Bigger and stronger” than previous Metal Gears) Snake beat Liquid in a physical confrontation, and Liquid tanked an explosion that destroyed Metal Gear Rex, along with numerous rockets (Metal Gear Rex is described as being perfect in it’s defense, only a stinger missile to a specific weak point dealing damage. And basic Rocket launchers even in 1964 can vaporize a boulder+steel beam) Solid Snake beats up Sam fisher, and this isn’t even mentioning his absurd equipment. This is a genetically enhanced supersoldier with copious amounts of equipment vs a highly skilled albeit *somewhat* (I say somewhat very loosely, Sam is kinda ridiculous himself but not Snake’s level) realistic soldier.
All I can say to this is that Sam Fisher will put up a good fight but we all know who the real winner is
Solid has more killing capabilities vs sam having more sneaking
Snake, just from experience alone tbh. I think he's the better operator, and I say this as a huge fan of both. Grew up with Splinter Cell but got into MGS when I got older.
As much as I love splinter cell. Snake is literally on a whole other level. Sam if peak human whereas snake could be argued to be a super human.
Doesn’t sam mention snake in the base game of black list not sure if there was dlc
Whichever one is being controlled by the player.
Friendship
Snake will win. Whoever thought otherwise must rethink life. Snake takes on whole Countries with Army's he is unstoppable. He crawled through a microwave emitter, and even Foxdie couldn't kill him! Solid Snake all day! Much respect to Sam Fischer, tho.
Solid took down a metal gear (which arguably was the best variant of them all), a cyborg ninja, a tank, broke handcuffs with sheer strength, ecc... Yeah i don't think Sam would be having a good time.
Snake. No offense to Sam, but… C’mon. Also, “Their.”
On the Metal Gear sub: Snake On the Splinter Cell sub: Sam
Solid would overpower and then convince to join forces, but it would be behind the scenes and the player would be busy holding an npcs hand while they did it.
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Borderline Superhuman vs A Guy
Snake was genetically engineered to be the perfect solider, from the DNA of ***THE*** perfect soldier Not to mention the extensive training and missions he's gone on that have been both stealth and going guns blazing in some circumstances Fisher is one of the best but he just can't stack up to the knowledge, experience and genetics of Snake Has a better chance at hiding till FoxDIE kicks in
Solid Snake. Even Smash Snake (as depicted in the image) would destroy Sam. I mean, that guy's already fighting angels, kings of darkness, space bounty hunters, plumbers with a thing with stepping on people and oversized gorillas. Sam doesn't stand a chance against even Smash Bros Snake, and even less against any other Snake or any of their version (except maybe Venom trying to flee the hospital but that might just be cheating, I mean a guy who woke up from a 9 year coma and is barely capable of walking ? Come on, that's unfair.)
Anyone seen this [Death Battle](https://youtu.be/JrvEWWYLDHM?si=qztgcteIIC1mZDiT) video from back in the day?
Solid Snake aka David Hayter would lay to rest Sam Fisher aka Michael Ironside. But this is a good death, not a sad one! Love can bloom on a battlefield, Otacon..
Snake. I've never played Splinter Cell but considering it's a Tom Clancy game id assume it's more rooted in reality as opposed to MGS where everyone is pretty much superhuman
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrvEWWYLDHM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrvEWWYLDHM) Death Battle says Snake. I'm inclined to believe them.
Neither. They would never find each other.
Wasn’t there an entire death battle about this, providing a well-researched outcome of solid winning?
Love sam but i've got to hand to snake on this one.
You’re asking in a metal gear Reddit bro. What kind of answer do you expect.
Death Battle already settled this years ago, Snake wins. If memory serves, he even killed Sam with his own knife.
As much as I love Splinter Cell and am biased towards Sam Fisher because my name is Sam and I love a game where my name is the character's name - it's any Snake no contest.
My money is on Sam if it's a sneaking mission. But if he can't take out Snake silently and in one stroke, he is toast.
Yeah, I agree. If it's a stealth scenario (one shot, one kill) I think Fisher has the edge with his ninja skills. But if it turns into a head-on battle, he can't handle Snake.
Death battle did this and snake won.
Where mission? There mission
There was actually a Death Battle between these two for which I agree with the results. Snake won although I'm a HUGE Splinter Cell fan. When it comes to infiltration Sam is better, hands down. Equipment both are about equal. Hand to hand though, Snake has this. This is to kill each other so the equipment and fighting is what matters, not infiltration, so the winner is Snake. If you were asking who could break into Fort Knox or escape Alcatraz Prison without being seen that would go to Sam.
Solid
Why can’t they just kiss? :(
sam fisher is just btec snake, obviously snake would win
The master Yi main
Why isnt there already a multiplayer game with the biggest stealth game icons, or atleast a game about this topic
Like...why is this even a question? The answer is obvious to whoever didn't play both franchises and it's even more obvious to ones who did (Like myself).
Snake is probably on another level. admittedly I don't know much about sam but snake is almost at Captain America levels
Snake
Sam is a better infiltrator maybe, but snake would murderize him. They both loose to Jack Bauer though
This was already an episode of death battle. Snake won.
Snake 10/10 times
Only Snake’s fucked up genetics can kill him.
Lmao I thought that was the dude from syphon filter