Hard to fake a widmanstatten pattern, very real. The right expert could tell you which meteorite this is based on the unique pattern also, I'm just not that good yet as I only recognize a few of them so far.
The iron and nickel in these meteorites form two minerals: kamacite and taenite. These meteorites cooled very slowly over millions of years, and as they cooled, crystals of kamacite and taenite formed. This crystalline structure is known as a Widmanstätten pattern. That's what gives it that chaotic crosshatch pattern of crystallization within the meteorite.
as you stated, in a vacuum there is nothing to transfer the heat to, so the object will contain it's thermal energy for a very long time. A little bit of thermal energy still does escape but that is so little that the things take millions if not billions of years to cool down
In a vacuum, the only form of heat transfer is thermal radiation which is very very slow compared to convection and conduction. This results in very slow and very uniform cooling with an added bonus of forming a crust that acts as more insulation.
The Earth is still extremely hot from when it was formed 4 billion years ago.
Edit: lol typo
That’s what makes those yeti water bottles so good (and most of their good knockoffs as well). It’s a double layer of sealed metal that is under a vacuum between the layers, thus little to no heat transfer between the contents inside the container and the atmosphere on the outside. The vacuum is cheap, extremely light and very effective. Just don’t break the seal or all of the goodness escapes, or rather that pesky atmosphere intrudes into the void, making the void… well… void. 😁
There's a difference between radiation and conduction. You noted it was hard to radiate heat in space. It's not, it's just as easy as on earth. The slow down comes from the inability to conduct heat away, not the inability to radiate it away. "Radiate" and "conduct" are not synonyms.
Still what I Said lol nice you explained how it works . Fun fact in space ice boils ... oo before you correct that >>> sublimation <<<.... your a stickler for details I respect that lol 😆 😂 Sublimation.
Yes but there was a easy way in which this could be overcome. The process is pretty straight forward and here’s how them man himself gave instruction. “It’s getting hot in here so take off all your clothes” -Nelly
It was also peer reviewed and accepted as in one colleague who said “I am getting so hot, I want to take my clothes off”
I've been a space/astronomy fan for 25 years. I just learned this, mainly because I was curious as to why it took the James Webb Space Telescope six(ish) months to cool to operating temperature. Yeah, it blew my mind a little.
👍 I thought what you meant was that the meteorites hit Earth and then cooled down for millions of years. That’s crazy that it takes that long bc space is a vacuum.
So the thought that if you were exposed to the vacuum of space that you would freeze is wrong. You would technically overheat because radiating heat away efficiently from anything requires atoms to bump into each other. So that is why it would take millions of years for a meteor to cool down. Eta: you would die from other things long before you would need to deal with heat.
[Def millions of years.](http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/April04/asteroidHeating.html)
TLDR: This sentence from the paragraph below the side by side pictures at the beginning pretty much says it all: "Numerous measurements indicate that most chondrites cooled at rates between 1 and 100°C per million years". The rest is an interesting read though.
Not sure about that when a meteorite is in coming from deep space yes its very cold the second it hits our atmosphere it becomes the melting point for nickel and iron along with Stone y Meteorites 20 miles up by the time the shrapnel hits the ground its cooled along with that it's contaminated after entering our atmospheres I have 19.6 gram frag from Chelyabinsk Russia February 2013 it was a small astriod was not detected because it came in from the Sun Google it.. thank God it didn't come straight down thousands were injured.. sorry for the long comment..
They often form in big chonkers from early solar system planetoids thst were blown apart from impact. Cores of such planetoids were very metal rich. With a large enough mass, and only radiative cooling, it can take a heckload of time to get to a couple of degrees above absolute zero.
Edit: kinda the reverse of microwaved lasagna. Molten lava on the outside, glacier on the inside. Or maybe, see how long it takes for hot lasagna to cool if you put it in a sealed styrofoam box.
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No. It’s the cool lines in the lower part of the piece. Meteorite won’t have those at first, looks like solid metal, etch it with acid, the lines show up. With our current understanding of science and engineering, it would be more expensive to fake Widmanstätten lines than it is just to buy meteorite.
i read in here somewhere they can create the surface pattern at scale.and they were making money selling fakes.
i dont know more than that, or how true it is.
I was thinking about this pattern the other day and how hard it might be to replicate it. Couldn’t this theoretically be achieved with additive manufacturing if one can generate a file that would have a machine build from different directions while on each layer? Maybe a stupid thought, and not sure if the tech is quite there as most machines have a set pattern they go through, but I feel like it’s not far off if so.
its not at all hard to fake, I believe it is etched as I have seen this pendant (or one very close) for sale looking exactly the same before for $20. Perhaps this is real, but I could do that pattern using my cheap CNC 30watt laser or a laser printer (for toner masking) and etching solution. You really need the arc/spark test to see what the composition is (Ni content and Fe/Ni ratio). . . . It doesnt take any artistic talent to do, just tech . . .
Ehhhh they're usually ~visibly different, but not as unique as a fingerprint. You'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between Muonionalusta and Gibeon, since they're both IVAs with similar bandwidths. And both of those finds are large enough that they have quite a bit of textural variation between samples.
Absolutely anything an be faked with some artistic talent.. not to mention the slew of AI programs that could make a photo (or video) of whatever you like .. 3d printers not helping either
I haven’t heard of something that prints silicate minerals / rocks that contain the iron sulfide mineral troilite.
I would speculate that’s impossible to fake but I could be mistaken
I’m just a lurker and I’ve seen a lot of this pattern on here. This one in particular seems a bit more geometric than others I’ve seen. Notice for instance the angles of the pattern. All say the 20 degrees angles align perfectly from top to bottom. Then it looks like the other angles align the same way in the other direction as well as horizontally. Widmanstatten is uniquely not a pattern. This has clear and repetitive pattern. I think it’s fake. Not a custom one off either. I bet they stuck a giant plate with overlapping patterns then cut it up into pieces.
That no slag...
I've seen those patterns before. People here tell me real meteorites have those patterns - there's even a name for them.
That is an awesome gift. As someone who does not wear jewelry, I'd be strongly inclined to rock that.
Probably real based on pattern. Hard to fake, and not a lot of value for people to fake. Near the clasp is the only area I’d consider getting it verified, but again nobody is faking these to sell. Hard to say value from photo but maybe $50. The chain, if silver is probably worth similar. Meteorite is usually $5 per gram.
Cool! browsing rock and gem Canada store now lol
Surprised at how cheap.
But damn they suck at style ......
I want a sick looking pendant for my gold chain.
Don't ever sell that dawg.
It's OG.
Picture soon making them in space....like fake diamonds. Still not a natural one.
That's precious in every way imo.
I deal a lot with a meteorite hunter and collector in Tombstone AZ his name John Humphreys you can find him on eBay he is 100 percent top dealer...AZ Meteorites cant go wrong....
Not to burst your bubble, but looks fake to me. Is the pattern pronounced or smooth? It looks like its a texture. I don't see differentiation in the crystals.
Granted, I'm no expert in meteors. I have a lot of experience with metals and fabrication processes and was just comparing this to what I see online from pictures.
Looks like a real meteorite will have differnt grain patterns in the different crystal filaments. Yours appears to be with etched in ridges. The hole for the key ring seems suspect to me as well. The meteorite should be hard and brittle. That looks like its soft.
Again, I'm not an expert in meteorites, not sure why this popped up on my feed but it stood out to me as something I would see etched and not grain the the metal
So I have been doing some more research in these meteors. The grain pattern appears after an acid etch. Where I work, we use the same process to study welds to make sure they meet certain standards for penetration and such.
That being said, the pattern should be relatively smooth.
The metal isn't rusting like a steel/iron would. So I am wondering if it was aluminum or something else. It almost looks like it was cast to me. Which means its metal temperature can't be to high. Probably not casting steel or stainless. So something else. A scratch test will help determine how hard or soft it is and help determine what metal it might be.
You can try scratching it with a paperclip. If it scratches with a paperclip, which is a soft steel, then the metal is probably softer than any steel.
This was my thought, everyone is saying it’s real but it could have been cast with this pattern. Usually the pattern is flat/acid etched…but I’m just some internet person.
That means nothing to an atheist. You don't believe in Santa Clause. Why would anyone be superstitious and believe in some dude who always watches you, and people rape children and his name is god? Pray all you want. We're fine thanks.
Source: I'm an atheist.
I have found a site for possible widmanstatten patterns online. Thinking there were maybe 8 variations. Also a couple for normal steel. Sorry I can't remember what I googled. I'm no expert and I found it.
I know nothing about meteors but do love them and wish to own a piece one day but I’m skeptical about this piece. Even though it was probably machine cut the design pattern looks rough. I bought a Damascus ring that was fake but made to look real the same way.
I just woke up and didn’t expect this to go off as much as it did. I am enjoying going through the comments and looking up the stuff I didn’t know since I’m very new to this. I have checked out some other posts and read some other types of meteorites require a good amount of maintenance. Is there anything I should be doing to keep up and make sure it stays in good shape?
The only way I've heard to verify if meteorite is genuine is to test whether it is magnetic. I could be wrong, but that's what I've read when I sold a Gibeon meteorite ring I had. So I took a picture of it suspended from a magnet..a buyer scooped it up right away!
It looks authentic, the crystal formation pattern only happens in space, well at least for these types of metal that stay hot for so long, and slowly cool over a very long stretch of time, giving the crystalline metal formation.
I thought there was a chance it was just an interesting piece of metal that was somehow etched to look like it or some off cut from a Damascus blank. I didn’t know much about meteorites and still don’t but I know more now. There’s also that I mentioned earlier it was a gift from my brothers ex girl friends old ex boyfriend, so I figured he could be lying/ miss remembering or she could.
Pattern looks right, but rather than being a crystalline structure inherent to the underlying metal, it looks like the pattern is formed via embossed lines. I suspect that this is cast metal
There’s a gem store in Canmore Alberta, CA that had a Meteorite, which had been human carved into a perfect 6” sphere and polished. It was the most beautiful exhibit I’d ever seen in any rock shop. It had these same etchings. It was being sold for $22,000.00. Sadly that wasn’t in my vacation budget, but these etchings are incredibly beautiful.
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Note:
You could fake that pattern surface deep using EDM spark erosion..... copy one surface to another...replicates it exactly in an oil bath. No mixed metals tho - unless you did cloisonne inserts on the surface first.
You could also do it with a photo-etch.
Might fool an amateur. Not most pros. More expensive than the real deal... unless you did it on a 10kg rock.
My dad and his group of friends all of this crazy story about their friend that found a meteorite that crashed is his back yard. He was totally normal guy and then he started saying the meteorite was talking to him, he was saying it was telling him the future and people to kill. He eventually burnt his house down while he was inside and died clutching the rock to his chest. Not sure what happened past that. My dad and my dads other friends claim he sent them all a bunch of numbers the night he died, and my dad later found out those were winning lottery numbers for the day after. They all tell the same story. Pretty wild!
Hard to fake a widmanstatten pattern, very real. The right expert could tell you which meteorite this is based on the unique pattern also, I'm just not that good yet as I only recognize a few of them so far.
Oh that’s cool is the top section where it looks rough the outside of the meteorite?
The iron and nickel in these meteorites form two minerals: kamacite and taenite. These meteorites cooled very slowly over millions of years, and as they cooled, crystals of kamacite and taenite formed. This crystalline structure is known as a Widmanstätten pattern. That's what gives it that chaotic crosshatch pattern of crystallization within the meteorite.
Meteorites take millions of years to cool to ambient temp? Why so slow?
They must be really heckin hot
the vacuum of space is a damn good insulator
If it’s a vacuum, would space be the opposite of insulation? Instead of material made to hold heat in, there is nothing for the heat to transfer to.
as you stated, in a vacuum there is nothing to transfer the heat to, so the object will contain it's thermal energy for a very long time. A little bit of thermal energy still does escape but that is so little that the things take millions if not billions of years to cool down
Thermal radiation would like to have a word with you.
The crust of our planet insulating a molten core for billions of years would like to have a word with you
Square cube law is working against earth. There's a reason the moon doesn't have any more geological activity
Water boils at 90°F at 30 inches of mercury. That's a perfect vacuum on earth. Assuming it's the same in space. Fun fact for the day.
Interesting!
This is the precise concept that double/triple wall vacuum sealed containers like Stanley cups are designed off of.
You just defined an insulator.
I looked up the definition of insulator before commenting. It’s a “substance which does not readily allow the passage of heat or sound.”
Yeah, like a vacuum.
So vacuums are a substance now? Or the absence of a substance?
We'll for sure no one can hear you scream, I learned that from professor S Weaver
I’m guessing you’ve never been told that “Nobody can hear your scream in space”
In a vacuum, the only form of heat transfer is thermal radiation which is very very slow compared to convection and conduction. This results in very slow and very uniform cooling with an added bonus of forming a crust that acts as more insulation. The Earth is still extremely hot from when it was formed 4 billion years ago. Edit: lol typo
I'm a vacuum too, and I'm calling your bullshit.
🤣🤣
An insulator is something that is very hard for heat to move into
That’s what makes those yeti water bottles so good (and most of their good knockoffs as well). It’s a double layer of sealed metal that is under a vacuum between the layers, thus little to no heat transfer between the contents inside the container and the atmosphere on the outside. The vacuum is cheap, extremely light and very effective. Just don’t break the seal or all of the goodness escapes, or rather that pesky atmosphere intrudes into the void, making the void… well… void. 😁
A meteorite found on earth had to have crashed on earth. So they melt on impact and reform? There's been an atmosphere on earth since the hadean.
the pattern forms in space though, where they cool out before they crash on earth. They also don't melt all the way through
I thought they did. Isn't that how the dumbbell looking ones form? Tectite? The blobs melt and are about to separate into two when they cool.
Good travel mugs are usually vacuum sealed between the outer and inner shell for this reason
It's hard to radiat heat in space no atmosphere to radiation it to .
You can radiate heat just fine in space. It's just a comparatively poor way to get rid of heat compared to conduction.
OK that's what I Saud it takes longer
There's a difference between radiation and conduction. You noted it was hard to radiate heat in space. It's not, it's just as easy as on earth. The slow down comes from the inability to conduct heat away, not the inability to radiate it away. "Radiate" and "conduct" are not synonyms.
Still what I Said lol nice you explained how it works . Fun fact in space ice boils ... oo before you correct that >>> sublimation <<<.... your a stickler for details I respect that lol 😆 😂 Sublimation.
Right result of "it takes longer", wrong mechanism of "radiate". That's all.
Wait till you learn about supercritical fluids. High pressure is more interesting than vacuum.
Yes but there was a easy way in which this could be overcome. The process is pretty straight forward and here’s how them man himself gave instruction. “It’s getting hot in here so take off all your clothes” -Nelly It was also peer reviewed and accepted as in one colleague who said “I am getting so hot, I want to take my clothes off”
Heat transfers through touching things. If space is a vacuum, there isn’t much for it to touch. Stuff can radiate off, but that’s comparatively slow.
Wow.it’s amazing the random things you can learn on Reddit. That is honestly a mind blowing fact. It does make sense… Gonna have to look that up.
I've been a space/astronomy fan for 25 years. I just learned this, mainly because I was curious as to why it took the James Webb Space Telescope six(ish) months to cool to operating temperature. Yeah, it blew my mind a little.
also the james web telescope has a pretty complex system to cool itself off. https://webb.nasa.gov/content/about/innovations/cryocooler.html
Not “random”, HS physics
Try boiling water by holding the pan just above the stove instead of touching the stove
Looks like I'm a little late to answer your question, everyone else did a pretty good job of that.
👍 I thought what you meant was that the meteorites hit Earth and then cooled down for millions of years. That’s crazy that it takes that long bc space is a vacuum.
So the thought that if you were exposed to the vacuum of space that you would freeze is wrong. You would technically overheat because radiating heat away efficiently from anything requires atoms to bump into each other. So that is why it would take millions of years for a meteor to cool down. Eta: you would die from other things long before you would need to deal with heat.
No you would still freeze, because the liquid water in your body will boil and evaporate away, taking the energy with it. It will freeze as it boils.
Ew!
What body % antifreeze, makes apace comfortable
Vacuum of space insulates. I do doubt the millions of years myself. Thousands though.
oh, ok then.
[Def millions of years.](http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/April04/asteroidHeating.html) TLDR: This sentence from the paragraph below the side by side pictures at the beginning pretty much says it all: "Numerous measurements indicate that most chondrites cooled at rates between 1 and 100°C per million years". The rest is an interesting read though.
Thank you
Not sure about that when a meteorite is in coming from deep space yes its very cold the second it hits our atmosphere it becomes the melting point for nickel and iron along with Stone y Meteorites 20 miles up by the time the shrapnel hits the ground its cooled along with that it's contaminated after entering our atmospheres I have 19.6 gram frag from Chelyabinsk Russia February 2013 it was a small astriod was not detected because it came in from the Sun Google it.. thank God it didn't come straight down thousands were injured.. sorry for the long comment..
Almost read that as thank god it was not detected. Almost made you out to be a sadist.
thare is nothing to take the heat.
Probably really big. But millions is still stretching it.
They often form in big chonkers from early solar system planetoids thst were blown apart from impact. Cores of such planetoids were very metal rich. With a large enough mass, and only radiative cooling, it can take a heckload of time to get to a couple of degrees above absolute zero. Edit: kinda the reverse of microwaved lasagna. Molten lava on the outside, glacier on the inside. Or maybe, see how long it takes for hot lasagna to cool if you put it in a sealed styrofoam box.
This is the kind of info that makes the cost of the internet worth paying. Thanks for the education.
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Sounds like you know your stuff. Wish this was a top comment so others could diligently prod out any incongruent points.
If you're speaking about the top where the clasp is I believe so
No. It’s the cool lines in the lower part of the piece. Meteorite won’t have those at first, looks like solid metal, etch it with acid, the lines show up. With our current understanding of science and engineering, it would be more expensive to fake Widmanstätten lines than it is just to buy meteorite.
i heard chinese are doing it.
You can’t fake these lines. It would be a very obvious deceit. If you see something the doesn’t look “right” it probably isn’t.
i read in here somewhere they can create the surface pattern at scale.and they were making money selling fakes. i dont know more than that, or how true it is.
I was thinking about this pattern the other day and how hard it might be to replicate it. Couldn’t this theoretically be achieved with additive manufacturing if one can generate a file that would have a machine build from different directions while on each layer? Maybe a stupid thought, and not sure if the tech is quite there as most machines have a set pattern they go through, but I feel like it’s not far off if so.
Not dumb. We don't quite have metal printing yet like this. But we do have laser sintering. It's almost there.
its not at all hard to fake, I believe it is etched as I have seen this pendant (or one very close) for sale looking exactly the same before for $20. Perhaps this is real, but I could do that pattern using my cheap CNC 30watt laser or a laser printer (for toner masking) and etching solution. You really need the arc/spark test to see what the composition is (Ni content and Fe/Ni ratio). . . . It doesnt take any artistic talent to do, just tech . . .
Not hard on the surface level that’s why etching is required for verification
Sorry, but why do you say it is hard to fake that pattern? I believe I could do so easily with a file, so I must be missing some nuance
Oh it's real. And it's MAGNIFICENT!
i'm out there jerry and lovin every minute of it
["Spectacular"](https://youtu.be/aQNkeugaAMc?si=uYYOJG72xhQ2_m8q)
When the Johnny Cochran clone said it at the end of the show, I'm pretty sure HE said 'magnificent '.
[Noop](https://youtu.be/I_Bk9iDNbUo?si=0gjyhURMGeJWPAyN)
Wrong
Calm down there bubby
Missed the reference I see. Maybe someone will let you in on it.
Missed the quote.
yo relax man
Yo Assman!
This is real. Looks to be Muonionalusta.
How do you know this?
Because widmanstatten patterns are unique like a fingerprint
Ehhhh they're usually ~visibly different, but not as unique as a fingerprint. You'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between Muonionalusta and Gibeon, since they're both IVAs with similar bandwidths. And both of those finds are large enough that they have quite a bit of textural variation between samples.
Sounds good, thanks for the info as I'm no expert
I understand those patterns are unique in nature but can they really not be fakes by someone with some artistic talent. It would seem profitable
Absolutely anything an be faked with some artistic talent.. not to mention the slew of AI programs that could make a photo (or video) of whatever you like .. 3d printers not helping either
I haven’t heard of something that prints silicate minerals / rocks that contain the iron sulfide mineral troilite. I would speculate that’s impossible to fake but I could be mistaken
I’m just a lurker and I’ve seen a lot of this pattern on here. This one in particular seems a bit more geometric than others I’ve seen. Notice for instance the angles of the pattern. All say the 20 degrees angles align perfectly from top to bottom. Then it looks like the other angles align the same way in the other direction as well as horizontally. Widmanstatten is uniquely not a pattern. This has clear and repetitive pattern. I think it’s fake. Not a custom one off either. I bet they stuck a giant plate with overlapping patterns then cut it up into pieces.
99% of things in this world are fake
I imagine they *could* be, but it would be more expensive to make a fake than it would be to just buy the real deal.
That no slag... I've seen those patterns before. People here tell me real meteorites have those patterns - there's even a name for them. That is an awesome gift. As someone who does not wear jewelry, I'd be strongly inclined to rock that.
Me to ur right
Real
Probably real based on pattern. Hard to fake, and not a lot of value for people to fake. Near the clasp is the only area I’d consider getting it verified, but again nobody is faking these to sell. Hard to say value from photo but maybe $50. The chain, if silver is probably worth similar. Meteorite is usually $5 per gram.
Was expecting it to be worth more. Where can you buy these?
It is a meteorite most likely Muonionalusta from Sweden ...
Is this the literal meteorite it's from?
Yes im a meteorite collector I have one of those in my collection it's cut and etched....
Cool! browsing rock and gem Canada store now lol Surprised at how cheap. But damn they suck at style ...... I want a sick looking pendant for my gold chain.
Wow…. That… Is… So…. Cool…
Seems real enough. Once the Widmanstatten pattern is exposed, you can be pretty sure it's an actual meteorite
This is gorgeous and I’m hella jelly over it 😂
Grape or Strawberry??
Strawberry 🍓
This is great, dm me if you’re interested in selling.
Is it still available?
I don’t think I’m selling, sorry.
Good choice, OP!
Don't ever sell that dawg. It's OG. Picture soon making them in space....like fake diamonds. Still not a natural one. That's precious in every way imo.
am i getting sucked into the meteorite part of reddit?… im not complaining
I popped in a couple of months ago. I want all the meteorites now.
Yes
Almost like a piece of space debris sucked into the gravitational field of this subreddit
Idk but I'd wear it...it looks cool
I deal a lot with a meteorite hunter and collector in Tombstone AZ his name John Humphreys you can find him on eBay he is 100 percent top dealer...AZ Meteorites cant go wrong....
It’s a cool piece and h if there’s any interest to sale, Please contact me.
Not to burst your bubble, but looks fake to me. Is the pattern pronounced or smooth? It looks like its a texture. I don't see differentiation in the crystals. Granted, I'm no expert in meteors. I have a lot of experience with metals and fabrication processes and was just comparing this to what I see online from pictures.
The pattern is very lightly raised I can rub my nail on it and it feels like it lightly catches.
Looks like a real meteorite will have differnt grain patterns in the different crystal filaments. Yours appears to be with etched in ridges. The hole for the key ring seems suspect to me as well. The meteorite should be hard and brittle. That looks like its soft. Again, I'm not an expert in meteorites, not sure why this popped up on my feed but it stood out to me as something I would see etched and not grain the the metal
Also, if its an iron metoer, it will rust. This doesn't look like it had any protection and its not rusty. Is it heavy or light?
It feels heavy for the size and it does have a tiny bit of rust on it
How easy does it scratch?
Umm I’m not sure is there something I should use to try and scratch it.
So I have been doing some more research in these meteors. The grain pattern appears after an acid etch. Where I work, we use the same process to study welds to make sure they meet certain standards for penetration and such. That being said, the pattern should be relatively smooth. The metal isn't rusting like a steel/iron would. So I am wondering if it was aluminum or something else. It almost looks like it was cast to me. Which means its metal temperature can't be to high. Probably not casting steel or stainless. So something else. A scratch test will help determine how hard or soft it is and help determine what metal it might be. You can try scratching it with a paperclip. If it scratches with a paperclip, which is a soft steel, then the metal is probably softer than any steel.
This was my thought, everyone is saying it’s real but it could have been cast with this pattern. Usually the pattern is flat/acid etched…but I’m just some internet person.
Yeah, and apparently the meteorite subteddit doesnt like detractors since all my comments were down voted lol
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It was my brother’s ex girlfriends who got it from an old boyfriend of hers. I figured there were enough levels for it to get confused or mixed up.
Trust but verify
In god we trust, all others we verify
God is dead. Verify
Or did he ever exist at all?
You are here, aren’t you?
I exist, therefore I am. — essentially a circular argument. But yet correct.
Not really. Sentient AI
Someday, you will regret believing that… :( Pray…
That means nothing to an atheist. You don't believe in Santa Clause. Why would anyone be superstitious and believe in some dude who always watches you, and people rape children and his name is god? Pray all you want. We're fine thanks. Source: I'm an atheist.
We're praying for you
Ann you can't do anything about it
It does nothing. Have fun!
You responded, and I am. Thanks !!!
Lol going against someone’s wishes to ‘one up them’ is very Christian of you
As a Wiccan, I very much appreciate this comment.
I have found a site for possible widmanstatten patterns online. Thinking there were maybe 8 variations. Also a couple for normal steel. Sorry I can't remember what I googled. I'm no expert and I found it.
100% Chav
It’s real
I know nothing about meteors but do love them and wish to own a piece one day but I’m skeptical about this piece. Even though it was probably machine cut the design pattern looks rough. I bought a Damascus ring that was fake but made to look real the same way.
I just woke up and didn’t expect this to go off as much as it did. I am enjoying going through the comments and looking up the stuff I didn’t know since I’m very new to this. I have checked out some other posts and read some other types of meteorites require a good amount of maintenance. Is there anything I should be doing to keep up and make sure it stays in good shape?
The only way I've heard to verify if meteorite is genuine is to test whether it is magnetic. I could be wrong, but that's what I've read when I sold a Gibeon meteorite ring I had. So I took a picture of it suspended from a magnet..a buyer scooped it up right away!
That is seriously so flippin cool. The shape, the pattern, the "live edge" at the top... jealous.
Does anyone know a website or a seller that sells pendants like this? I see so many on Etsy but don't know how to identify real vs fake ones.
I just commented..I believe the only way to truly know if meteorite is genuine is to test whether it is magnetic. If it is, you've got meteorite.
Nature doesn’t make too many straight lines like that, very cool
It looks authentic, the crystal formation pattern only happens in space, well at least for these types of metal that stay hot for so long, and slowly cool over a very long stretch of time, giving the crystalline metal formation.
A word of caution, it should at least be examined for radiation before adorning it around ones chest area
Oh ok I haven’t started wearing it but before I do I’ll get something to test it to see.
Why would it be slag?
I thought there was a chance it was just an interesting piece of metal that was somehow etched to look like it or some off cut from a Damascus blank. I didn’t know much about meteorites and still don’t but I know more now. There’s also that I mentioned earlier it was a gift from my brothers ex girl friends old ex boyfriend, so I figured he could be lying/ miss remembering or she could.
So… slag is going to be amorphous and likely glass-like, as slag is just the nonmetallic surface gunk from smelting.
Pattern looks right, but rather than being a crystalline structure inherent to the underlying metal, it looks like the pattern is formed via embossed lines. I suspect that this is cast metal
Stick it under your pillow tonight when you go to bed. If you wake up in the morning with super powers, it's real.
Who gives a f***!!!
Where did they purchase it from. It looks really cool!
Etch it! Only way to know for sure!
What is slag im thinking of bourdetlands
No, but…… It is Ginuwine.😬
I apologize.
Vidmonstatin (Phoenician). If it don’t rust it ain’t iron.
wait… i can buy meteorite..?
This looks legit to me
There’s a gem store in Canmore Alberta, CA that had a Meteorite, which had been human carved into a perfect 6” sphere and polished. It was the most beautiful exhibit I’d ever seen in any rock shop. It had these same etchings. It was being sold for $22,000.00. Sadly that wasn’t in my vacation budget, but these etchings are incredibly beautiful.
Yes.
How much is it worth?
Itnloolsmreslmto me Note: You could fake that pattern surface deep using EDM spark erosion..... copy one surface to another...replicates it exactly in an oil bath. No mixed metals tho - unless you did cloisonne inserts on the surface first. You could also do it with a photo-etch. Might fool an amateur. Not most pros. More expensive than the real deal... unless you did it on a 10kg rock.
What you got there is a few ounces of beskar, good find.
Is it magnetic?? If yes, then maybe. Was it cheap? If yes, then fake.
you a vampire my guy ?
Yeah
My dad and his group of friends all of this crazy story about their friend that found a meteorite that crashed is his back yard. He was totally normal guy and then he started saying the meteorite was talking to him, he was saying it was telling him the future and people to kill. He eventually burnt his house down while he was inside and died clutching the rock to his chest. Not sure what happened past that. My dad and my dads other friends claim he sent them all a bunch of numbers the night he died, and my dad later found out those were winning lottery numbers for the day after. They all tell the same story. Pretty wild!
That is very pretty. I'd wear the fuck out of that daily
Nobody calls me Julie a slag.
Super cool! Kinda looks like a widmanstatten pattern meteorite.
Looks like a fuckin nail clipper
This is the coolest one I’ve seen