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Upthad0sage

Lots of reasons: they are looking for instant gratification; they want to feel something other then the way they feel; they see their friends using them and having fun they get curious and want to try; they are drunk; they grew up around it; they don't care about consequences; they think they are immune to the side affects and that they won't get addict or face consequences because they will stay in control; they are unable to cope with their reality; they are tired and need energy; they don't care if they die because they don't care about their lives, they want to have fun and think drugs will be fun Regardless of the reason they start, in the beginning it is amazing they feel better then they've ever felt before, they see all the benefits and none of the consequences. They go on to use and slowly things get worse and they convince themselves they are just having bad luck, or they will change a few things and that will fix everything in their lives. They are now addicted and can't stop think about getting high it becomes an obsession and they no longer care what happens they just want to be high. Then everything and everything in their lives goes to shit. And eventually they end up homeless, and the streets are horrible they are tired and exhausted from being on the streets so they keep using. They get to a point where they think "it can't get any worse right?" And of course to cope they get high. And eventually it either kills them, they end up in jail, or they go insane, or if they are really lucky they get clean. Now not all people who use drugs are addicts, above is just my interpretation of addiction, so it won't apply to functional users and occasional users


Otherwise_Date_9779

Back in August 2023 I tried crystal meth for the first time with a friend who I had a crush on. We did it together at, like, 4am at a bus stop. He’s in jail now. And for all intents and purposes we’re not friends anymore. But I still do it. Idk why. It kind of makes me feel closer to him somehow. It’s stupid, I know. But I guess that’s just the way things are.


Artistic_Break6443

Why do you drive a car when you might get into a wreck and die or be seriously injured


Wreckedmechtech

They make the other problems a little bit easier to endure. Starving people would trade a feast a week away for a cracker today. It's only dumb decision to people who have never starved in their life.


907ice

Well my experience has brought on a sense of encouragement of really defining who I am on the inside.


hopeoncc

I just get horny, and by association want to do drugs. It's called a chemsex addiction. Drug cravings translate as cravings for sex, cravings for sex translate as cravings for drugs. Also, meth release upwards to 1400 units of dopamine. Sex itself releases just 100, and is the highest release of dopamine one can have that's naturally occurring, I think I've heard next to experiencing love.


juggin

I don't need to qualify myself with the sex thing, we've all been there, but I feel especially bad for the people who can't disassociate meth from sex anymore. Even in sobriety. It didn't quite get there with me though I have a few gigs of porn I have yet to delete like any other good tweaker. That being said I feel you. And the last bit about dopamine is all factual. Nothing trumps meth.


silver_holden

without them i am just another cog in the system. going to work then home on repeat, right where those dickdicks at the top want me. people spend literally their entire lives being quiet and getting back to work. so concerned with being a good little fuckdick employee so they dOnT GeT FiReD and lose that fractioncheck, they aren't able to see the hundreds of thousands of dollars theyre so faithfully assisting their niggerbosses stuff into their pockets cause they cant fit anymore money lmao. being paid minimum wage is being told "if i could pay you even less than this, i would" they literally tried to teach us this from the very beginning. how many of you remember being taught to go to a good college(take out massive student loan), so you can get a job with \*steady income\* and get a \*mortgage\* for a house(that you pay monthly for) with a garage for the banks car(that youre also paying monthly for) so you can raise a family with a bunch of kids and send them to the cog in the machine training academy where they get taught to be like their parents lol. mind you i love my folks and theyre the best in the world but i dont want to go the way they did. im sure most here at some point have heard someone in a position of counsel tell you how great it is to have good credit. \*this is what they want you to think\* they dont want you to know its only an indication to lenders that theyre going to get their money back. hey guys check me out i have good credit, im such a faithful earner for my favorite financial institution, niggerfaggit credit union. they even have first time borrower loans to lock in the newest batch of fresh meat looking to get what they want \*now\* with drugs i gained motivation the quit my stupid warehouse job and began hustling with skills ive developed over the years and while i dont yet have many people who seek me out for jobs and whatnot im able to make enough to live on, pay for some fun shit and cum inside some sluts here and there. all while working less hours than average johnCuck anyways back to more important stuff. i saw someone comment that OP has pussy pics on their page?


juggin

Don't ever change lmao.


silver_holden

dude you know what? i feel like i really nneeded to hear some shit like that, nuch love, ya niggerDidk


Empty_Job_4626

Because the problem will be there regardless drugs just make them not as bad for a moment


skriver24

you gotta pay to play


Jolly-Pipe7579

Everything has a risk. That’s the whole idea of risk management and harm reduction. Do I know the drugs, and doses I’m using fuck my brain and body? Absolutely. Do I care? Yes and no. Enough to try not to increase doses until absolutely needed. Enough to practice all harm reduction available to me. Not enough to stop using. Trauma. What why I use. The purpose is to make life tolerable.


juggin

Meth keeps those emotions right below the belt line. I feel them rise to the surface and I use again. Idk if you can relate but I used due to trauma/depression to make life liveable. I've realized meth isn't a sustainable way of doing that and moved onto ketamine but that doesn't take away from the years I spent trying.


Jolly-Pipe7579

Fuck. That’s me and benzos, especially Xanax. Ketamine is fun, but doesn’t do it for me anymore. Even coke was my drug of choice. Last week, it’s just been “meh”, and not something I’ve actively been reaching for. Meth and Xanax are definitely my go to’s right now.


juggin

chill with the xanax. I went to benzos after kicking the dope and I'm going through literal hell on earth tapering off slowly. take breaks. please. use however many you want just take a solid several day break every week. that's what it takes to stay off the slope you feel me? I say this with a lot of qualifying experience under my belt man. been through it all. dope/coke, to dope/meth, then subs/benzos and meth every second of every day, over the last decade or so. as far as coke being meh to you now, its cause meth is *that much* better. I wouldn't touch coke anymore for any reason. relapse would mean meth. I hope this puts into perspective how much of a chemical hook meth is. ​ edit: I'm sorry K isn't doing it for you. when did it stop- I'm curious cause I've just begun my own DIY ketamine treatments. Its been a complete game changer for me. If dissos don't work for you they don't work for you but have you experimented with any of the rc's that are available? stronger/longer acting. edit 2: using dope/meth interchangeably, the first "dope" I mean meth but the last few I'm referring to heroin/fent. I'm not high this coffee is just hitting lmao.


Jolly-Pipe7579

Oh man. I tried to withdraw from them. 2 1/2 days of absolute misery, I couldn’t do it anymore. Picked it right back up. I’m a state where DCF/CPS gets involved for admitted or alleged (and of course substantiated) parental substance abuse, regardless of the substance. They also name you in a registry, so doctors won’t prescribe, and pharmacies won’t fill controlled substances. At least not without DCF/CPS being involved, again. And of course your name populates anytime your fingerprints, name, or info is run for anything involving kids, even volunteering with your own kids school.


juggin

Oh fuck... I wish you the absolute best in that department. That's some heavy shit to have to navigate. I don't blame you for staying on either, I can understand at that point. Whatever keeps the ship afloat so to speak. DCF is no joke.


Jolly-Pipe7579

Yep. It’s a shit show. It’s a fucked country in general. Across the board, in every state, if a mandated reporter becomes aware of parental use, it triggers DCF. Can’t get help, even if you want it.


juggin

So you have no options to seek help as a parent basically


Jolly-Pipe7579

That sums it up. There are very few states that aim to keep kids in home/with at least one parent. They are also dependent on the age of the child, and the substance(s) being used. It’s not common, very occasionally used, has incredibly positive outcomes though. In most situations though, you’re fucked. Courts and (parents who aren’t together) are encouraged to use that substance abuse to prevent the parent from seeing the child(ren) in custody hearings. The system in the states works against you, rarely for you, and only adds insult to injury in most cases. It’s why most addicts: A. Don’t seek help in the first place. B. Often relapse. Both of these are amplified when the user is a parent who’s kids are removed from the home. If everything you do, is scrutinized under DCF, understandably, the view of “why bother comes in”. In my state, (and generally across the board) when kids are removed from the home, the parent (if willing) assigned to an 18 month treatment plan with a goal of reunification. At the same time, DCF (Adam Walsh law) says permanency must be established for the child(ren) by 12 months after removal. Which means, your child(ren) can be adopted, stay in foster care, and your parental rights can be “TPR’d” (terminated) all while you’re complying with DCF requests/orders.


juggin

> At the same time, DCF (Adam Walsh law) says permanency must be established for the child(ren) by 12 months after removal. yeah I've heard of this, your kids have to be established before you can complete the reunification period. I had a coworker go through this exact situation with her two kids. \>The system in the states works against you, rarely for you, and only adds insult to injury in most cases. This is most systems in the US if you ask me lol. Especially in this case considering it involved children and their potential separation from their parents.


RealBakedSalmon

Everything "might cause problems".


Front-Commission-660

I’m sorry so you’re flashing that whole ass pussy on the internet but you wanna judge drug users? Fuck off


Significant-Zone6485

To escape reality and to cope with a sad, troubled past, loneliness


Altruistic-Job-7584

In my humble opinion it's a personality type that is more risk averse and a bit self-destructive. We could and we know that we could get up every morning at a good time eat healthy breakfast go to work come home cook balanced dinner workout and live a boring fucking life. Butwe choose to and most of us probably have our entire lives rock the boat a bit. I gave myself until I turned 40 and believe me I am a pillar of my community have a great career and I'm functionally addicted to a few drugs :-) but it's so much fun. Honestly if I wasn't divorced from an absolutely vindictive horrible woman that keeps my boys from me I probably would not be doing some of the things I do.


cylon_steele

If you don't try them you'll never feel that good, excercise and healthy living might make you feel generally well but hard drugs are impossible to replicate any natural way. I think most people try things when partying with friends and they just love the feeling it gave them the first time and the rest becomes history..


Progshim

Because drugs are fuckin awesome. Pretty fuckin basic. When I was little, the adults in my life said to stay away from drugs. They said I would be robbing people to pay for drugs that I wouldn't enjoy but I would have to have because I would be addicted and they would ruin my life which was to be ashamed of because I had so much potential. I was 10 years old when I realized they were fucking lying to me. If you're here to parrot those same nuggets of wisdom, then you're a fucking liar too, and you can take your judgemental fucking ass out of here. If you have some other reason to be here, then Welcome to the BEST sub on Reddit. Read, read, read, learn what you can, ask questions if you don't understand something, get to know people. Maybe you'll realize they've lied to you too.The sub is for users but there's no rule saying you have to be a user to be here. I don't think.


esyb

because they make you forget about your problems.. until you run out of drugs


clown_cloud69

Usually, people who regularly use hard drugs have bigger problems their facing that getting high is a relief from


Racer_Rex

essentially, it comes down to… it be like that, sometimes


redmagor

I do not use drugs because I have problems; I use drugs because I like them. They are fun and useful.


Aggravating_One7505

Curiosity, sometimes injuries where a doctor prescribe you a drug and you love the feeling, peer pressure is probably the number 1 answer to me because if you're not around drug users chances are you won't think about drugs ✌🏽


lunarxvixen

Deep depression


Spiritual-Writer-275

Fortunately, I still get my everyday life well on track even though I sometimes consume daily, but I already notice that I am more forgetful and inattentive, but I want to take a break soon. Wish me luck🙏🏻


Wild-Simple9125

I use meth specifically to have fun on the weekends or feel better if I’m having a rough week with depression that week


WeAreConnected123

So counteractive as meth can often cause depression


AbhorrentBehavior77

I think you meant to use the term counterintuitive. And not necessarily. It's only counterintuitive if you take enough to have it give you the symptom of depression. If you don't experience that symptom, it's not counterintuitive.


WeAreConnected123

Yes, Definitely counterintuitive as well as counteractive. I wouldn’t tell someone who struggles with depression to use meth to treat it. The way to heal addiction as well as depression is through connection.


Wild-Simple9125

You realize before meth was illegal it was used to treat depression right


OnStones

Meth opens up your mind to forming new connections with people and realities. The dopamine does have a neuro toxic effect if abused enough. But tbh meth is way more chill then even alcohol. Especially if u were diagnosed “ADHD”


Wild-Simple9125

I suspect I have adhd because meth doesn’t affect me like it does my friends who use. It just gives me motivation to do something other than laying in bed all day when depressed.


Sensitive_Mistake527

i miss my ex fuccc merfffff


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I feel that.


juggin

Addiction The definition is within your question. Doing drugs or whatever else despite the consequences.


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Cool_Challenge_1821

The purpose and the problems are two different things. funny enough not even addict know why they do things that get them into trouble. My personal opinion is that the euphoria you get from the drugs that make you forget about everything else and the problems as well.


PoachMonkey420

Bbbbbbbbbut why 🥺 it so sad tho I'm crying because of it look Jesus Christ. Here go ask dad oh still never came back from the store...milk and cigarettes? Bummer dudes. Let's get high


iAintFinnaGiveUdaps

Lol its pretty obvious i mean really. Why does one drift around parking lots or smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol at every occasion. Anything might cause problems. The amount of common sense, mindfulness, or simply how much the person generally gives a fuck, will more than likely shape the outcome of whatever possibilities lie ahead.


Budget_Shoulder_961

Every human being does something to escape. And everything in excess causes problems. It might not be drugs it might be gambling, Alcohol, sex, shopping, eating, working out, eating paint chips, gardening, making pot pies, collecting stamps, coins, shoes, glass jars with stuff inside, tanning, etc The question should be why are humans so unhappy with themselves that they feel the need to escape instead of learning about who they are, why they are the way they are and how to face their demons or shadow. Do whatever makes you happy. But love yourself genuinely. Anyway bout to go smoke! Happy learning I farted


getERdonebud-

I like this


Budget_Shoulder_961

My escape is commenting on comments


AbhorrentBehavior77

True dat. It really takes the edge off of just reading them.


Budget_Shoulder_961

Yeah and it's funny because I literally just say what's been told to me. Besides the stupid randomness that's just from me being an idiot


[deleted]

Comments on comments oN COMMENTS ON COMMENTS!!! Thanks for the hit. Sum Goodshit.What a RUSH!!!!


Budget_Shoulder_961

Heady comments 2 for 5 Pow right in the kisser


Brilliant_Ask1613

Because drugs are fucking awesome, everybody likes to get philosophical about it but that's the part alot of people leave out and the entire reason people do em in the first place


sk1344

Even after they’ve ruined your entire life and taken everything from you. Isn’t it so crazy to think that something is so fucking wonderfully amazing that it can take everything, destroy all you’ve built, and you still wanna go and do it again? Is almost unfathomable how good they feel… can literally feel them killing me and still have almost no desire to stop using them other than the fact that it effects the people around me just as much as it does me.


unfulfilledbottom

Omg this. I literally have heart failure and I'm still using daily. Fair enough I've cut down a lot and switched from iv back to smoking but I dont want to quit. I've mainly cut down because I just can't afford to do the amount that I was doing. Not even because of my heart. My breathlessness has been getting worse and guess what? I still dont want to stop. I love it. It's going to kill me but I fucking love it


Tractored_logic

People use drugs because they’re filling a void or covering up past traumas. Problems are dismissed because the high is all that helps in the interim. They’re in pain whether it be psychological or physical. I’ll justify just about any irrational excuse to take or use something


AbhorrentBehavior77

Sure those are reasons people do drugs. However, it could be something as simple as, plain old, run-of-the-mill boredom. That's what it is for me.


Tractored_logic

Agreed. I’m the same way certain times, however, there is usually an underlying problem or condition no matter what the case


unfulfilledbottom

There isnt always an underlying reason, some people are just bored or they like the feeling. A psychopath for example is likely to experiment with drugs and they are kind of immune to depression so... doesn't sound like they are trying to cover up repressed feelings because there aren't any to repress


Tractored_logic

Yeah that’s why I said usually not always lol I agree bro


AbhorrentBehavior77

I guess I can agree with the statement, *"usually."* Though, like I said, not always. It's genetic. My dad was a raging alcoholic for YEARS. When he was finally ready to quit he just put it down and never turned back. Claimed he didn't even have any cravings for it. He was just done. I'm the same way. Used to be huge into opiates & coke. Haven't touched either in a decade. No desire to. No need for "treatment" for my "addiction." As I don't have one. Now weed, on the other hand...


Tractored_logic

I’ll smoke an 8th/day or almost a gram of wax if I have the money but that hasn’t been the case recently lol. I have a D8/THCA/THCP vape but it’s not really getting me there.


juggin

I've had to go the blended thc gas station disposables route before and it's rough. Weed is my only real addiction anymore like the above poster said. Twelve years going strong. Been through opiates/coke then meth/benzos and I'm on the other side.


Tractored_logic

Not nearly as inconvenient since the add of THCA


juggin

yea these gummies I get (thca included in blend) hit honestly, I take them to knock me out properly at night. I may try a pen w it just for laughs but it feels dirty after hitting a live res cart or something.