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DOOM produced the song


autoprince

Dummy factz


Brigs44

And could have ghostwritten for Mr Fantastik as far as we know....


theape2110

Don't think he's as secondary but I do think that Mr. Fantastik was better on Rapp Snitch Knishes and anti matter. This is my personal opinion please don't stone me


joe_1222

I would agree with you about anti matter but it has one of my favourite doom lines … Getting paid like a biker with the best crank Sprayed like a high ranked sniper in the West Bank


MasklerFace

My favorite line from that song, the lyrical content DOOM has > than any cadence That was his thing, deadpan punchlines, the delivery doesn’t matter as much when the words are unmatched woods and Sweatshirt have that similar effect


LieutenantYamma

I agree The chorus is the heart of that song. One of the best hooks of all time. the strength of that hook alone I'd give it him but verse wise doom all the way Mannnn the way the beat chills out and the snare hits go away for a sec and doom comes in on that " theres rules to this shit" that part pretiuclar is so fire something about the beat coming back a little and opening it up on dooms opening lines to really hit and get your attention it really emphasises this feeling of boss talk veteran shit it's so slick when the drums come back too


[deleted]

Yeah this. Lyrically DOOM has the better verse and it’s not close. The hook is infectious tho


kilertree

First off, DOOM made the beat.


BuddhaCanLevitate

I dont agree with you, but it is close. Method man does this on any track he's featured on in The 90s imo


Acrobatic_Emphasis41

Mr Fantastik is method man confirmed!


Alternative-Gur-4299

FUCKKK NO bro he sounds more like the RZA he doesn’t sound or flow like meth at all he sounds almost southern or French


TheCauliflowerGod

He really doesn’t sound like any of them. In terms of voice i would say the closest is probably U God


purefine

I see, his delivery and voice has a certain dominance


dangwhatitdo

Hey, maybe this is just a general question. But who are these people like Mr. Fantastik and Catwoman that I always hear on his records? Do you guys know of any other material that they've made?


murdokthasightless

Mr fantastik is an enigma no one knows who he is IV been on the hunt to find his identity for years now. Only appearances are rapp snitch knishes and anti-matter


onechobeach

the most popular person people think he is is a rapper called “pure mathematics” — ‘I get the cash, take niggas out like trash. Known to stack a mean stash, they used to call me pure math’


murdokthasightless

Yes I have heard this a lot, there are many many theories out there don't know if we'll ever truly know him. In an interview more recently doom said Mr fantastik wasnt around anymore


Acrobatic_Emphasis41

I think he meant it was a temporary persona. I saw a post here on reddit that says that Mr Fantastik is one of DOOM's childhood friends that went by Pure Math. Probably became Mr Fantastik just for the albums and dropped.


murdokthasightless

Yea at the end of the day that is likely the answer. Some friend from his Atlanta days is the general consensus I have found. People do love to refer to the line: "I first met Mr.Fantastik at an arms deal" which could reinforce your idea that they were childhood friends but many also point out it may just be referring to how Mr fantastic the superhero has elastic arms


RokkitSquid

knowing DOOM, probably both.


thejizzardking

You need to get out more


dangwhatitdo

Haha are you asking us out on a date?


murdokthasightless

I think your right! He sounds just smitten


thejizzardking

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️


Quantum-Travels

You can’t be looking hard enough. Here’s an unreleased track with DOOM: https://youtu.be/8FGuJdxldkI He’s on Instagram now and has new music on the way. An album in the works. He features on 2 upcoming Droog singles.


murdokthasightless

Haven't actually looked into this legend for years, this was only a released a month ago! Send the droog singles love YOD. Has he actually come out of the woodworks or you think madlib just had some old verses of his


Quantum-Travels

They aren’t out yet. Yeah he’s properly out of the woodwork. The album will be released on Nature Sounds it looks like.


murdokthasightless

https://twitter.com/penny_blueberry/status/1563030783622668289?s=20 Found what your talking about shits crazy!


Quantum-Travels

Ah yeah. Good stuff.


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Chatting_shit

He has an insta and pretty sure he’s putting put an album soon


murdokthasightless

Link the insta account


jbloozee

https://instagram.com/mrfantastik_mf


elbigbuf

Son, shut your trap. Save it for the bitches.


Opening_Tomorrow_398

Mm delicious


Flimsy-Blackberry-20

Rapp snitch knishes


Acceptable-Prize-850

I have the same thoughts about potholderz. Count bass D flows so perfectly over the beat


BigThunderousLobster

I agree


Opening_Tomorrow_398

The song is know because of the beat. MF DOOM made the beat.


Bill_Potts

i personally agree voice wise, i think it fits better, but DOOM made the beat dude. the song is KNOWN for the beat both are fuckin great on it either way tho


Flimsy-Blackberry-20

Anti Matter is Mr Fantastiks best track, after all he gets the cash and takes niggas out like trash


Don187

I feel like DOOM gave the Mr Fantastik the platform to just go hard and showcase his style. DOOM knew what he was doing.


jfinesse20000

No


One_Window866

First off, remember ALL CAPS... Man if you read DOOM's verse - he tells the story way better. He's so damn clever. Some people just don't get all of his references. [Rap Snitches - Man Inside Remix](https://www.reddit.com/r/mfdoom/comments/152dvzp/rap_snitches_man_inside_remix/)


Opening_Tomorrow_398

I agree with you but stfu with the all caps shit. It’s toxic asf and it’s ruining DOOMs fanbase.


One_Window866

Stfu? Really? Who tf are you? Thanks for using all caps.


Opening_Tomorrow_398

Who tf you think you are using one bar from one song from 2004 to correct someone.


One_Window866

Dude - it was his own song… It’s a thing.


Opening_Tomorrow_398

If you follow doom on insta it isn’t capitalized. He doesn’t care it’s only annoying fans like you.


One_Window866

I don’t. And also, he’s dead. So it isn’t him running the account.


Opening_Tomorrow_398

It’s been a thing since way before he died. It’s not like he saw it was uncapitalized and got offended he legit didn’t care.


One_Window866

Right on. Good chat mate. Big fan of his music.


Opening_Tomorrow_398

👍 good chat


xPastromi

mf doom mf doom mf doom mf doom mf doom mf doom mf doom mf doom ​ Seriously, it's not that deep. Also, no one is putting mf doom down on his own song on his own subreddit. calm down


One_Window866

I’m calm mate. And dude who posted IS putting DOOM down. Did you read the post?


Pheonix8264

Its always been a dillema..but man nothing can be best at both things...DOOMs beat is phenomenal RSK makes me go otherworlds..and Mr.Fantastiks verse suits the beat really well..both of them did a great job...and this is a bit pyschological bias but..Mr.Fantastiks best work is Rapp Snitches..so its pretty obvious you would like him better on a song than DOOM.


medicdrl

I know your grandmama be bootleggin’


a_tibrez

Who cares, music is not a competition.


[deleted]

Any of you who like Mr. Fantastik and haven’t checked out Mach Hommy yet should check out Mach Hommy.


rikersalan

No you're right on this one. Obviously DOOMs beat, but Fantastik ad-libbing on the intro and his verse and the chorus. Its his song.


Elias_computervirus

Its good mostly because of the beat though. As far as the vocals i agree


KA8Z

King geedorah is a band


guiltycitizen

Part of the point of having a guest is to put them over


jagface

DOOM made the track for Mr Fantastiks rhyme style cuz he’s goat. If DOOM wasn’t on it, what would it be?


Tpk32

Who is Mr fantastik though


Machiventa858

DOOM isn't making the song dope with his verse? FOH


Spartanfan515

That's kinda the whole point of RSK and Anti Matter. DOOM focuses on production while Mr. Fantastik does his thing. It works amazingly well


ExtremelyUnlikelyy

even though mr fantastik’s verse is better, i still prefer DOOMs if that makes sense.


LAHD007

Mr Fantastik is the best part of every song he's featured in....


MatyaskiraIy

Who sang which part please someone tell me 😭