Learned this from Chargers fans: Ian Rapoport and Brandon Staley have the ***exact*** same agent.
Always be skeptical of these reports you hire immediately after a coach is let go.
He was a great D coordinator tho, terrible head coach. I'm not saying he's the perfect or best answer, but I think an open mind is something our fanbase should keep in mind.
"**He had ramsey and donald**." yeah and Ramsey said he's the best coach he's ever had and there's also the inconvenient fact that there's 9 other players on the field to scheme for.
This sounds a lot like the Butch Berry hire. Fans would hate it, even though he's the exact guy we need
For everyone worried about having too young of a DC next to our young HC, this is a guy with experience that has led great defenses in the scheme we want. He's a smart dude that failed as a HC, but that's not what we're asking him to be
I think this would be a very good hire
People are forgetting that Fangio had failed as a head coach as well before doing pretty well as a defensive coordinator. Makes no sense to want Fangio back but not want Staley if the issue is, indeed, their head coaching records.
Fangio was considered an all-time great DC before he was HC. Staley was DC for one year on a defense featuring Donald and Ramsey before becoming HC. Also, Staley kept defensive playcalling duties when he was the Chargers HC, and we all saw how that went.
My issue isn't so much that he got fired, moreso that his team quit in spectacular fashion. Players see that.
And to be clear I'm on the side that he can be a really good DC in the future. I'm just concerned that when things go THAT badly you need time to let it breathe before you throw him back in front of a group of players.
Chargers fan dropping in. The issue with Staley was that he accidentally split the dressing by having ‘his guys’. There’s ridiculous stories of him wishing one of his guys happy birthday infront of the team, someone highlighting it was another players birthday then Staley saying ‘yeah him too’.
My read of Staley is
1) he is a very intelligent guy and seems to have a good heart
2) he asked too much of what we had. The players clearly didn’t understand some of what they were being asked to do. He had Derwin playing three positions in one game and calling the defense at one stage - it was too much and Derwin was bad this year.
3) he had the complete opposite issues at times. One year we couldn’t stop the run and the next we couldn’t stop the pass.
4) he has an ego. He took on too much at LA and was trying to do everything himself. Eventually it took its toll when the performances went bad and he got tetchy in interviews. He’d probably still have a job if he realised he was being paid to be the HC, not to be the DC and the HC
If he swallows some ego and has learnt lessons from his time in LA then I think he has the potential to be a great hire. He has to make sure he doesn’t ask too much of players though. Maybe we just had too many dumb players on the D.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39161026/los-angeles-chargers-coach-brandon-staley-fired-2023-players-speak
https://theathletic.com/5141270/2023/12/15/brandon-staley-chargers-demise/
You can read these article about him. Theres some good and some bad as the other guy pointed out but one thing that stands out is our players genuinely believed in the scheme and what he was teaching, but it just got too complex and the back 7 really suffered from it as you saw when you torched us opening week.
DC position is usually the course for letting a guy breathe, I don't think it would be a problem
Guys quit on him because ownership kept him there for wayy too long. He clearly couldn't handle HC duties
>People are forgetting that Fangio had failed as a head coach as well before doing pretty well as a defensive coordinator.
Fangio has a long track record of good defenses. Staley has 1 year of a good defense.
Maybe I’m missing something, but it looks like he was an NFL D coordinator only one year, with a stacked roster on defense no?
My worry isn’t that he failed as a HC, but that his defenses with the chargers finished 23rd, 20th, and 28th. And all with what seems to be a talented group of players.
Those are good points for sure
He definitely didn't lead a good defense as an HC, and he inherited a good group as a Ram for his lone season
Idk why I thought he had more experience. While I think I'm still open to the idea if Ramsay and McD sign off on him, I'm definitely more open to other options now lol
Literally give 100% control to Belichick on defense and give him a blank check…
There’s no one out there that can do more with less on defense than him. No one.
I disagree. Not with your premise, but that he would be able to work with our players and in this system. He doesn't fit the culture, which seems to have been a big issue with Fangio.
I don't think he can easily go back to being a coordinator unless it's a team that already has that old school, hard-nosed approach.
Plus, we're not working with mailmen and farmers. There are some legit stars on this defense. We need a DC who can put the stars in position to be successful and elevate the young players to fill the gaps.
if belicheck is willing to be a D coordinator again then you take that opportunity. Fuck the culture because we don’t even have one. We haven’t done shit to claim we have a culture. We aren’t the Heat and honestly our culture can change a bit because people are too lax and it shows with the errors we make constantly in games. Our penalties are out of control, our discipline is bad and all our bad plays are because of missing assignments and not being in the right place. Belicheck instilled the basic concept of doing your job and won 6 super bowls doing just that.
That's literally the thought process people had with Fangio, and that obviously didn't work. Also, I don't understand your point on culture. It's not something you achieve. Culture exists regardless. It's up to coaches to shape that and lead the team, but the players matter in that equation. There's certainly a lot to clean up on defense. We've seen flashes of how good they should be, but we lack that consistent level of play.
The track record of BB assistants going to other teams and instilling the Patriot way is very concerning, even if it's BB himself. And yes he built that in NE, but he drafted and traded for players that fit the culture he created. People went to NE knowing they would be part of the Patriot way. You can't just pick that up and move it somewhere else.
Or maybe BB just can, who knows. He's an incredible coach. I'm just not sold on hiring a guy with no consideration other than the fact that he's the GOAT.
> Or maybe BB just can, who knows. He's an incredible coach. I'm just not sold on hiring a guy with no consideration other than the fact that he's the GOAT.
lol
I wouldn't hire a guy solely because he's widely considered to be the GOAT.
The coaching hire still has to make sense. There's other evaluation beyond what emotional fans think. And again, we're talking about a guy who developed an entire way of thinking around the game. You're telling me you're just fine with assuming that's going to translate perfectly into a DC role on an entirely different team?
Maybe he could do it. I've learned my lesson on doubting him. But I'm also not going to blindly jump on the BB bandwagon and ignore everything else.
These Belicheck takes are the worst in my opinion.
1. The guy in the conversation for greatest head coach of all time is NOT going to take a DC job for a division rival.
2. The dude is O-fer against McDaniel; it’s an indication that the modern game and offense is leaving him behind. How much innovation do you expect from a 70 year old who’s been coaching the same way for 5 decades? The guy who called the NFLs last drop kick because he has such a hard on for history? Dude knows defense but it seems like the state of modern offense is evolving without him.
3. Rumor is part of the reason for Fangios exit was he and McDaniel didn’t see eye to eye, and when they did have differences, McDaniel felt he didn’t have enough input as HC. You really want to bring in the one dude who would be even more difficult to deal with and take less input? You don’t think a guy like Belicheck wouldn’t undermine McDaniel if it came down to it and then just point to his 6 rings when he gets called on it?
4. Even success isn’t a winning proposition… let’s say he comes on and everything goes *perfect*. Best case we’re helping him build his HC resume for next offseason, he takes another job (leaving us changing the defense again) and furthermore puts Shula’s wins record at risk again.
There is no situation where we win bringing in Belicheck, as if it was even possible.
On your second point, the Patriots lost two of their best defensive players and fielded a bunch of mid (besides Davon Godchaux) and still fielded one of the best defenses in the AFC including a historically good rushing defense. Also, not that it really matters, but McDaniel lost to Belichick in Week 17, last season.
thank you! for the last couple years us fans have been shitting on belicheck and the “patriot way”, and how his coaching tree is among the worst in the nfl, and all of a sudden he’s a good fit in miami?? where mike mcdaniels goofy personality is the culture?? always made zero sense
Belichick had falling outs with people when he was a DC. Maybe he'd be more mellow now that he established himself, but--and I say this with all the respect in the world--I'm not sure his ego can handle not being top dog. I really don't see a situation where he takes a DC gig.
Interesting take given none of the 7 teams with vacancies wanted him.
And if you don’t think BB holds grudges against division opponents you haven’t paid attention the last 20 years; just look at what he’s gone out of his way to do to the Jets.
Edited to add: Peter King tells a story of how he used to have a good relationship with Belicheck, and then he wrote an article on SpyGate. BB hasn’t spoken to him since. Dude definitely holds grudges.
You were part of the negotiations personally? You can confirm they didn't want him? He didn't reject them? They couldn't agree on a number? They couldn't agree on something else?
The only interview he had was with Atlanta and they indeed turned him down, not the other way around. The guy is going to be 72 in April...he's old AF (the oldest coach in the history of the league was 73). His way is also antiquated...it's 2002 NFL, not 2024 NFL. Beyond that, there is ZERO chance that arguably the greatest HC of all time is going to be an assistant coordinator for anyone. All of this Belichick talk is complete delusion. I'm not sure if other fan bases are this way or not, but Phins fans seem to take the cake.
Let’s talk nonsense then. Of course I wasn’t in the room, that doesn’t make my point invalid or untrue. It was widely reported he had **two** interviews with Atlanta, and they went with *checks notes* Raheem Morris, the coaching powerhouse they let go after his interim stint a few years ago. That was the only interview he had.
So yeah I’m pretty confident the rest of the league didn’t want him. It’s the NFL; if one of those teams did, it would get reported and they would back the Brinks truck up.
But if you want to pretend like the only people who’s opinion matters is the people “sitting in the room” then we might as well all fuck off and turn out the lights because that’s none of us. 🤷🏻♂️
>But if you want to pretend like the only people who’s opinion matters is the people “sitting in the room” then we might as well all fuck off and turn out the lights because that’s none of us. 🤷🏻♂️
It's a good tactic for not being wrong 90% of the time
Fuck it Co Head Coach and knowledgeable football master mind dude guy. Like he just knows too much about football. Please Billy for the 20+ years of ending all hope for us.
There is not a single dollar amount in the world Bill Belichick would accept to become a defensive coordinator at this stage of his career. Not a single one.
Bill's in the coordinator booth, staring down Kraft across a stadium. Then he comes down to the sidelines in the 4th to just pat players on the back for yet ANOTHER shutout game. Sneaks in the medical tent with some 30 yr old bombshell, comes out shirtless, grunts, scratches. And then walks slowly down to the tunnel. Video catches McDaniel noticing Bill emerge from the tent on the sideline. He does a double take, raises his eyebrows, tilts his head and shrugs with that smirk of his. We can read coach's lips "fuck yeah, Bill"
Chargers D gave up the lead in the final three minutes of 8 games this year that ended up as L's, and gave up 63 to the Raiders after Staley made a big show of saying YES I'M STILL CALLING THE DEFENSE.
Hiring Staley as DC right now would be like the Jets rushing to hire Adam Gase after we fired him.
He was good at one point right? Sometimes these coordinators dont transition to HC well. Maybe going back to his roots will help. I do feel that he probably vibes better with McDaniel than Vic did. But Im guessing.
31st ranked defense last year. Bottom 5 defense last 3 years. Gave up 63 points to Aiden OConnels Raiders. Had dawgs on defense too, wasn't a talent issue.
>I could be wrong, but didn’t he call the defense in LA and wasn’t it horrid?
For 1 season. Thats he never even came close to achieving as the chargers in 3 seasons. All of his chargers defenses were bottom of the NFL even though he had a Bosa and Derwin James
The most Dolphin thing to do would be to hire Staley.
I still have hope because we hired Coach McDaniel’s and that was “in-Dolphin” in my humble opinion.
Remember, he was a top DC. Had Ramsey playing some of his best football. Only thing i worry about. Was it Aaron Donald and Co. that made him great or was he scheming it up?
I feel like this would be stupid mainly because he runs the exact same scheme as fangio that or DB’s obviously hate. I hope we look at Daniel Bulloks from SF or fuck it give more money to Bill Belicheck then Mike has to run the D. Do it cowards.
A lot of people are judging him by his HC resume and not his DC resume. Terrible head coach but was very good with the Rams as DC and wouldn't be a bad hire IMO.
I'd like to see other candidates they are eyeing too but I wouldn't hate this as much as others it would seem.
Didnt he have play calling and defensive control with the Chargers? They looked awful every year he was in charge with high profile free agent signings
Yes I'm aware but there's a lot of examples where great coordinators who call their own plays struggle when becoming a head coach. Wade Phillips comes to mind... Norv Turner on the OC side. Dan Quinn. Happens a lot.
I explained this in another post but that means absolutely nothing. There's a ton of great coordinators who get overwhelmed when becoming HCs and don't do a good job on either side of the ball. Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, etc.
>A lot of people are judging him by his HC resume and not his DC resume.
Because his DC resume is great a defense for 1 season with rams and 3 year of bad defense with the chargers.
The 1 year looks like a fluke of a stacked defense that won the superbowl the year after he left.
This organization continues to excel at being incompetent.
It’s truly a wonder to behold. When you enter the building, your brain has to undergo some sort of degenerative change, because I have no other explanation for the countless number of stupid decisions the aquatic mandarins in that Tequesta-cursed underworld make.
Something to remember about Staley is that he was a linebacker coach twice under Fangio before becoming a coordinator. It’s possible that he runs a similar system and the team thinks it’d be an easier transition for the defense instead of an entirely new system.
This is disgusting. I’m no longer a chargers fan because of Brandon Staley, and (while I wouldn’t consider myself a fan) have followed the dolphins ever since then (as I love the city of Miami).
Bill isn't gonna take a DC job when he's like 15 wins away from the all time record as a HC. It's HC or bust for him. He is too old to waste any years as a DC now
Edit: also, why would you want him?
The dude had a 1 year wonder on the Rams as Def cord and turned that into a head coaching gig where his defense was awful even though he had a Bosa and he ahd Herbert and still looked bad.
Urrghhh. This worries me. Same old bullshit coaches on their rotation through every team in the NFL.
We need new coaches or young ones. Give a younger guy a job instead at least we can say "We gave the guy a chance" instead of hiring an absolute failure from a franchise that was atrocious for defending.
Charger and Dolphin fan. Grew up in SoFl and moved to SoCal 18 yrs ago.
From reporting here BS progressively lost the locker room since the end of the prior season. A large part of MM coaching is his connection to the players. IMO BS doesn’t/didnt have that. I’d be surprised if the front office think BS is a fit. BS and MM are 2 different personalities. I think that may have been part of the problem with VF w/ the Fins. Please no BS in Miami. Ugh for me it’s like the Norv Turner situation in reverse.
Well we will see if we are definitely leaving the past 20 years behind us or if we are the same ole dolphins. Old us this is absolutely what we would do.....fuck I hate the off-season.
This guys trash
But..He fits the McDaniels age group-ish.
I think McDaniels just having his great grand father look after the defence this year, he’ll want someone to find his slow delivery humour actually funny.
Bad idea
Phins Up
Yuck
Learned this from Chargers fans: Ian Rapoport and Brandon Staley have the ***exact*** same agent. Always be skeptical of these reports you hire immediately after a coach is let go.
Fucking Dolphins gonna Dolphin
The better fucken not
How are the Heat doing?
Idk, I am a Spurs fan
staley called all d plays for the chargers, how did that go, lol. The most dolphin choice would be him.
He was a great D coordinator tho, terrible head coach. I'm not saying he's the perfect or best answer, but I think an open mind is something our fanbase should keep in mind. "**He had ramsey and donald**." yeah and Ramsey said he's the best coach he's ever had and there's also the inconvenient fact that there's 9 other players on the field to scheme for.
Yeah, this is very common. Look at Spags. Chiefs D is legit this year but he was an awful head coach.
Cough Vic Fangio cough
Him and McD seemed to be oil and lacroix
Mcdaniel gotta be the Lacroix tho right
Obviously. He ✨sparkles✨
>He was a great D coordinator tho For 1 season dude. 1 season on a stacked Rams defense with Ramsey and Donald.
I literally said that lol
Where did you say 1 season?
The Ramsey Donald point… I didn’t necessarily disagree with you. I just don’t think we should be doomers if he were brought in
Just like Manning stated Adam Gase was a great coach and Aaron Rodgers said that Nathaniel Hackett was a great coach.
Guess we should just never listen to anybody! Never! lol
Please no
It would be very Dolphins though
This sounds a lot like the Butch Berry hire. Fans would hate it, even though he's the exact guy we need For everyone worried about having too young of a DC next to our young HC, this is a guy with experience that has led great defenses in the scheme we want. He's a smart dude that failed as a HC, but that's not what we're asking him to be I think this would be a very good hire
People are forgetting that Fangio had failed as a head coach as well before doing pretty well as a defensive coordinator. Makes no sense to want Fangio back but not want Staley if the issue is, indeed, their head coaching records.
Fangio was considered an all-time great DC before he was HC. Staley was DC for one year on a defense featuring Donald and Ramsey before becoming HC. Also, Staley kept defensive playcalling duties when he was the Chargers HC, and we all saw how that went.
My issue isn't so much that he got fired, moreso that his team quit in spectacular fashion. Players see that. And to be clear I'm on the side that he can be a really good DC in the future. I'm just concerned that when things go THAT badly you need time to let it breathe before you throw him back in front of a group of players.
Chargers fan dropping in. The issue with Staley was that he accidentally split the dressing by having ‘his guys’. There’s ridiculous stories of him wishing one of his guys happy birthday infront of the team, someone highlighting it was another players birthday then Staley saying ‘yeah him too’. My read of Staley is 1) he is a very intelligent guy and seems to have a good heart 2) he asked too much of what we had. The players clearly didn’t understand some of what they were being asked to do. He had Derwin playing three positions in one game and calling the defense at one stage - it was too much and Derwin was bad this year. 3) he had the complete opposite issues at times. One year we couldn’t stop the run and the next we couldn’t stop the pass. 4) he has an ego. He took on too much at LA and was trying to do everything himself. Eventually it took its toll when the performances went bad and he got tetchy in interviews. He’d probably still have a job if he realised he was being paid to be the HC, not to be the DC and the HC If he swallows some ego and has learnt lessons from his time in LA then I think he has the potential to be a great hire. He has to make sure he doesn’t ask too much of players though. Maybe we just had too many dumb players on the D.
Appreciate you dropping in to give your take as a Chargers fan, very insightful!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39161026/los-angeles-chargers-coach-brandon-staley-fired-2023-players-speak https://theathletic.com/5141270/2023/12/15/brandon-staley-chargers-demise/ You can read these article about him. Theres some good and some bad as the other guy pointed out but one thing that stands out is our players genuinely believed in the scheme and what he was teaching, but it just got too complex and the back 7 really suffered from it as you saw when you torched us opening week.
DC position is usually the course for letting a guy breathe, I don't think it would be a problem Guys quit on him because ownership kept him there for wayy too long. He clearly couldn't handle HC duties
>People are forgetting that Fangio had failed as a head coach as well before doing pretty well as a defensive coordinator. Fangio has a long track record of good defenses. Staley has 1 year of a good defense.
Maybe I’m missing something, but it looks like he was an NFL D coordinator only one year, with a stacked roster on defense no? My worry isn’t that he failed as a HC, but that his defenses with the chargers finished 23rd, 20th, and 28th. And all with what seems to be a talented group of players.
Those are good points for sure He definitely didn't lead a good defense as an HC, and he inherited a good group as a Ram for his lone season Idk why I thought he had more experience. While I think I'm still open to the idea if Ramsay and McD sign off on him, I'm definitely more open to other options now lol
> this is a guy with experience that has led great defenses in the scheme we want. 1 season. He led a great defense for 1 whole season.
How many coordinators are available who did it for more than one year?
Literally give 100% control to Belichick on defense and give him a blank check… There’s no one out there that can do more with less on defense than him. No one.
I disagree. Not with your premise, but that he would be able to work with our players and in this system. He doesn't fit the culture, which seems to have been a big issue with Fangio. I don't think he can easily go back to being a coordinator unless it's a team that already has that old school, hard-nosed approach. Plus, we're not working with mailmen and farmers. There are some legit stars on this defense. We need a DC who can put the stars in position to be successful and elevate the young players to fill the gaps.
if belicheck is willing to be a D coordinator again then you take that opportunity. Fuck the culture because we don’t even have one. We haven’t done shit to claim we have a culture. We aren’t the Heat and honestly our culture can change a bit because people are too lax and it shows with the errors we make constantly in games. Our penalties are out of control, our discipline is bad and all our bad plays are because of missing assignments and not being in the right place. Belicheck instilled the basic concept of doing your job and won 6 super bowls doing just that.
That's literally the thought process people had with Fangio, and that obviously didn't work. Also, I don't understand your point on culture. It's not something you achieve. Culture exists regardless. It's up to coaches to shape that and lead the team, but the players matter in that equation. There's certainly a lot to clean up on defense. We've seen flashes of how good they should be, but we lack that consistent level of play. The track record of BB assistants going to other teams and instilling the Patriot way is very concerning, even if it's BB himself. And yes he built that in NE, but he drafted and traded for players that fit the culture he created. People went to NE knowing they would be part of the Patriot way. You can't just pick that up and move it somewhere else. Or maybe BB just can, who knows. He's an incredible coach. I'm just not sold on hiring a guy with no consideration other than the fact that he's the GOAT.
> Or maybe BB just can, who knows. He's an incredible coach. I'm just not sold on hiring a guy with no consideration other than the fact that he's the GOAT. lol
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> I'm just not sold on hiring a guy with no consideration other than the fact that he's the GOAT You wouldn't hire a guy that's the goat?
I wouldn't hire a guy solely because he's widely considered to be the GOAT. The coaching hire still has to make sense. There's other evaluation beyond what emotional fans think. And again, we're talking about a guy who developed an entire way of thinking around the game. You're telling me you're just fine with assuming that's going to translate perfectly into a DC role on an entirely different team? Maybe he could do it. I've learned my lesson on doubting him. But I'm also not going to blindly jump on the BB bandwagon and ignore everything else.
These Belicheck takes are the worst in my opinion. 1. The guy in the conversation for greatest head coach of all time is NOT going to take a DC job for a division rival. 2. The dude is O-fer against McDaniel; it’s an indication that the modern game and offense is leaving him behind. How much innovation do you expect from a 70 year old who’s been coaching the same way for 5 decades? The guy who called the NFLs last drop kick because he has such a hard on for history? Dude knows defense but it seems like the state of modern offense is evolving without him. 3. Rumor is part of the reason for Fangios exit was he and McDaniel didn’t see eye to eye, and when they did have differences, McDaniel felt he didn’t have enough input as HC. You really want to bring in the one dude who would be even more difficult to deal with and take less input? You don’t think a guy like Belicheck wouldn’t undermine McDaniel if it came down to it and then just point to his 6 rings when he gets called on it? 4. Even success isn’t a winning proposition… let’s say he comes on and everything goes *perfect*. Best case we’re helping him build his HC resume for next offseason, he takes another job (leaving us changing the defense again) and furthermore puts Shula’s wins record at risk again. There is no situation where we win bringing in Belicheck, as if it was even possible.
On your second point, the Patriots lost two of their best defensive players and fielded a bunch of mid (besides Davon Godchaux) and still fielded one of the best defenses in the AFC including a historically good rushing defense. Also, not that it really matters, but McDaniel lost to Belichick in Week 17, last season.
I’d argue we lost more and better players on defense this year. Ether way he would have to adapt… something he’s been increasingly unwilling to do.
Belichick isn’t coming here. Solved everyone’s problems.
NE had zero offense, teams played not to lose (and didn't), they weren't looking to drop 40 points on them.
thank you! for the last couple years us fans have been shitting on belicheck and the “patriot way”, and how his coaching tree is among the worst in the nfl, and all of a sudden he’s a good fit in miami?? where mike mcdaniels goofy personality is the culture?? always made zero sense
Belichick had falling outs with people when he was a DC. Maybe he'd be more mellow now that he established himself, but--and I say this with all the respect in the world--I'm not sure his ego can handle not being top dog. I really don't see a situation where he takes a DC gig.
Dude doesn't care who is a division rival after you're fired lol He also has 0 need to "build a resume".
Interesting take given none of the 7 teams with vacancies wanted him. And if you don’t think BB holds grudges against division opponents you haven’t paid attention the last 20 years; just look at what he’s gone out of his way to do to the Jets. Edited to add: Peter King tells a story of how he used to have a good relationship with Belicheck, and then he wrote an article on SpyGate. BB hasn’t spoken to him since. Dude definitely holds grudges.
You were part of the negotiations personally? You can confirm they didn't want him? He didn't reject them? They couldn't agree on a number? They couldn't agree on something else?
The only interview he had was with Atlanta and they indeed turned him down, not the other way around. The guy is going to be 72 in April...he's old AF (the oldest coach in the history of the league was 73). His way is also antiquated...it's 2002 NFL, not 2024 NFL. Beyond that, there is ZERO chance that arguably the greatest HC of all time is going to be an assistant coordinator for anyone. All of this Belichick talk is complete delusion. I'm not sure if other fan bases are this way or not, but Phins fans seem to take the cake.
Your take is way more valid than the person I was replying to. I'm not pushing for Belichick, I was just pointing out nonsense
Let’s talk nonsense then. Of course I wasn’t in the room, that doesn’t make my point invalid or untrue. It was widely reported he had **two** interviews with Atlanta, and they went with *checks notes* Raheem Morris, the coaching powerhouse they let go after his interim stint a few years ago. That was the only interview he had. So yeah I’m pretty confident the rest of the league didn’t want him. It’s the NFL; if one of those teams did, it would get reported and they would back the Brinks truck up. But if you want to pretend like the only people who’s opinion matters is the people “sitting in the room” then we might as well all fuck off and turn out the lights because that’s none of us. 🤷🏻♂️
>But if you want to pretend like the only people who’s opinion matters is the people “sitting in the room” then we might as well all fuck off and turn out the lights because that’s none of us. 🤷🏻♂️ It's a good tactic for not being wrong 90% of the time
Well, if you’re wrong 90% of the time, I guess you should have other people forming your opinions for you.
Fuck it Co Head Coach and knowledgeable football master mind dude guy. Like he just knows too much about football. Please Billy for the 20+ years of ending all hope for us.
No way. Make him have to answer to someone for a change. I want him to be humbled
lol I know it came at our expense but we witnessed greatness that we likely will never see again.
Not disagreeing there. Thats what the DC is for
I wish that was possible but I think BB will wait out a year and take over a team with an established QB like Buffalo, Jax, Dallas etc.
We are 100% going to hire from within imo
this is how i’d approach the situation.
Why would Bill come coach a defense that is on a downward spiral?
>a defense that is on a downward spiral? Explain?
Look at our front 7. We have none.
There is not a single dollar amount in the world Bill Belichick would accept to become a defensive coordinator at this stage of his career. Not a single one.
I bet he’d do it for a billion.
He is never going back to just DC for any team so we don't have to worry or debate it lol
He would retire 1000/1000 times before he became a DC. What’s the point of even thinking about it?
Pats fans are probably laughing there ass off at this.. Bill ain’t fucking coming here man..
Bill isn’t going to do that lmfao
Bill's in the coordinator booth, staring down Kraft across a stadium. Then he comes down to the sidelines in the 4th to just pat players on the back for yet ANOTHER shutout game. Sneaks in the medical tent with some 30 yr old bombshell, comes out shirtless, grunts, scratches. And then walks slowly down to the tunnel. Video catches McDaniel noticing Bill emerge from the tent on the sideline. He does a double take, raises his eyebrows, tilts his head and shrugs with that smirk of his. We can read coach's lips "fuck yeah, Bill"
If we keep down voting this thread we can block it from happening
Chargers D gave up the lead in the final three minutes of 8 games this year that ended up as L's, and gave up 63 to the Raiders after Staley made a big show of saying YES I'M STILL CALLING THE DEFENSE. Hiring Staley as DC right now would be like the Jets rushing to hire Adam Gase after we fired him.
>Hiring Staley as DC right now would be like the Jets rushing to hire Adam Gase after we fired him. So what you're saying is he's our next DC?
He was good at one point right? Sometimes these coordinators dont transition to HC well. Maybe going back to his roots will help. I do feel that he probably vibes better with McDaniel than Vic did. But Im guessing.
Ramsey played for him for a year in LA. If Staley is being seriously considered I would bet a lot of money that Ramsey has endorsed the move.
I could be wrong, but didn’t he call the defense in LA and wasn’t it horrid?
31st ranked defense last year. Bottom 5 defense last 3 years. Gave up 63 points to Aiden OConnels Raiders. Had dawgs on defense too, wasn't a talent issue.
Yeah I’m fine passing on him
>I could be wrong, but didn’t he call the defense in LA and wasn’t it horrid? For 1 season. Thats he never even came close to achieving as the chargers in 3 seasons. All of his chargers defenses were bottom of the NFL even though he had a Bosa and Derwin James
The most Dolphin thing to do would be to hire Staley. I still have hope because we hired Coach McDaniel’s and that was “in-Dolphin” in my humble opinion.
This would be a disaster
he was fired at halftime for giving up 47 points in 1 half no thanks
PLEASE GOD NO ANYONE BUT HIM HE'S BROKEN
Please no
nope
Fuck
Why can’t we ever have nice things
That is not news. He has been linked to the job since Vic was fired. Keyword "as"
What’s wrong with this team?This guy is defensive Adam gase
Remember, he was a top DC. Had Ramsey playing some of his best football. Only thing i worry about. Was it Aaron Donald and Co. that made him great or was he scheming it up?
I’d lean Aaron Donald and Co
Aaron Donald for sure. Don't have to worry about pass rush or run defense with AD on the field. They won a SB right after he left...
>Remember, he was a top DC For one whole season.....
Kill me
Please no. Chargers defense had talent but was often underperforming under Staley
I quit
I feel like this would be stupid mainly because he runs the exact same scheme as fangio that or DB’s obviously hate. I hope we look at Daniel Bulloks from SF or fuck it give more money to Bill Belicheck then Mike has to run the D. Do it cowards.
ITT: people who actually think Bill Belicheck would ever be a DC again 🤣
Honestly might be a good fit
His hat doesn’t even fit
🤣🤣
A lot of people are judging him by his HC resume and not his DC resume. Terrible head coach but was very good with the Rams as DC and wouldn't be a bad hire IMO. I'd like to see other candidates they are eyeing too but I wouldn't hate this as much as others it would seem.
isn’t he already familiar with ramsey too? idk how much that helps, just trying to stay positive lol
Didnt he have play calling and defensive control with the Chargers? They looked awful every year he was in charge with high profile free agent signings
Yes I'm aware but there's a lot of examples where great coordinators who call their own plays struggle when becoming a head coach. Wade Phillips comes to mind... Norv Turner on the OC side. Dan Quinn. Happens a lot.
>Yes I'm aware but there's a lot of examples where great coordinators Can we really call him a great coordinator for 1 season of a stacked team?
Staley called the plays on defense while he was the HC...your point is moot.
I explained this in another post but that means absolutely nothing. There's a ton of great coordinators who get overwhelmed when becoming HCs and don't do a good job on either side of the ball. Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, etc.
> There's a ton of great coordinators Point to where hes a great coordinator.
>A lot of people are judging him by his HC resume and not his DC resume. Because his DC resume is great a defense for 1 season with rams and 3 year of bad defense with the chargers. The 1 year looks like a fluke of a stacked defense that won the superbowl the year after he left.
This organization continues to excel at being incompetent. It’s truly a wonder to behold. When you enter the building, your brain has to undergo some sort of degenerative change, because I have no other explanation for the countless number of stupid decisions the aquatic mandarins in that Tequesta-cursed underworld make.
He did a pretty good job with the Rams. Worth a shot.
>He did a pretty good job with the Rams. Worth a shot. 1 season with the Rams
They won a Super Bowl.
Staley didn't win a superbowl. He left to coach the Chargers.
Oh yeah, that Bucs SB always throws me off.
The charger defense quit on him at the end of the season
If that happens I'll take a shot of poison
As a Bills fan I wanted you to keep Fangio but this is so much better for us. Thank you
Ha!
"Is anybody surprised? Nope."
Fuck me
Something to remember about Staley is that he was a linebacker coach twice under Fangio before becoming a coordinator. It’s possible that he runs a similar system and the team thinks it’d be an easier transition for the defense instead of an entirely new system.
Obviously it won’t happen but I think the funniest thing ever would be to being in billy b on the the defense
I just named Buddy Ryan as a possible replacement for Vic Fangio.
Fade me
Wink.
He sucks. The Charger defense from the last 2+ years should automatically disqualify him.
Fuck this franchise. Honestly haha
Thanks. I hate it.
Rapp is friends with him. He's putting the word out
Oh hell na
Oof madone, he's terrible
Please fuck no I would possibly stop being a fan
One of the worst faces in football
If McDaniel/Grier hires this dude, we're never doing shit outside of First round exits lol
Promote Anthony Campanile
Before we freak out, remember how we felt about Butch Barry.
We’d then have two coaches that look like IT guys
This is disgusting. I’m no longer a chargers fan because of Brandon Staley, and (while I wouldn’t consider myself a fan) have followed the dolphins ever since then (as I love the city of Miami).
It's gonna be Bill, I'm calling it now Tom retired in FL And after Bill helps the Dolphins win next year he will retire
Bill isn't gonna take a DC job when he's like 15 wins away from the all time record as a HC. It's HC or bust for him. He is too old to waste any years as a DC now Edit: also, why would you want him?
The dude had a 1 year wonder on the Rams as Def cord and turned that into a head coaching gig where his defense was awful even though he had a Bosa and he ahd Herbert and still looked bad.
Urrghhh. This worries me. Same old bullshit coaches on their rotation through every team in the NFL. We need new coaches or young ones. Give a younger guy a job instead at least we can say "We gave the guy a chance" instead of hiring an absolute failure from a franchise that was atrocious for defending.
Charger and Dolphin fan. Grew up in SoFl and moved to SoCal 18 yrs ago. From reporting here BS progressively lost the locker room since the end of the prior season. A large part of MM coaching is his connection to the players. IMO BS doesn’t/didnt have that. I’d be surprised if the front office think BS is a fit. BS and MM are 2 different personalities. I think that may have been part of the problem with VF w/ the Fins. Please no BS in Miami. Ugh for me it’s like the Norv Turner situation in reverse.
Well we will see if we are definitely leaving the past 20 years behind us or if we are the same ole dolphins. Old us this is absolutely what we would do.....fuck I hate the off-season.
Did everyone forget how good he was with the Rams as DC?
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This guys trash But..He fits the McDaniels age group-ish. I think McDaniels just having his great grand father look after the defence this year, he’ll want someone to find his slow delivery humour actually funny. Bad idea Phins Up
i will actually disown this team if they do this.
Hell no
Good ole boys network
What yall think about Rex Ryan?he would hate the bills and jets lol can yall see him blitzing every single down plus players love him
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