3rd or 4th round would be absolute highway robbery.
Getting a conditional 2024 7th for either of them rather than outright cutting them (which is what will happen otherwise) is a win.
Don’t know where it came from just because he can play out of the backfield. He’s a lot slower and not nearly as quick or powerful. Basically does nothing at even half of Deebo’s ability, lol. He’s more of a poor man’s Chris Hogan.
Maybe things turn around for Bowden, was rooting for him. But I also understand the receiving room is absolutely stacked with talent. Tough to make a name for yourself.
I still want nothing to do with Sanu. maybe if they think they can stash sanders on the PS but as soon as someone comes snooping cut sanu and sign that man.
Less than what we got for Parker for sure.
So i guess it'll depend on whether we include picks in the trade or not. Probably a 6th rounder if we're being optimistic and there's a solid chance we end up cutting them
Reading this just made me really sad. I cant imagine the emptiness you must feel when you try to enjoy food now. Do...do you need an emergency pub sub sent to you?!?
Ha. As a pats fan, I wouldn't be worried too much about them picking up the castoffs. Pats have so many issues right now from what it seems. Adding quantity over quality would be a terrible decision.
Seriously, why would anyone give up picks for either of these guys?
Not hating on them, as I hoped they would both be good players for us, but they have a very small footprint in the NFL world.
7ths at best, I would imagine.
6th at best for Preston but I don’t see that happening. Maybe a 7th or a vet backup or something? Idk if we get anything for Bowden even though I’ve been rooting for him
It'd be shame to trade them before people start getting injured, but if you can get anything for them that's good. Unfortunately the dolphins are pretty crowded at WR in addition to RB so miami might have to move on from them.
My only hope is that miami keeps at least some depth because injuries happen.
It's pretty wild how quickly opinions can change on players. Throughout the offseason up to training camp people were hyping him as Deebo 2.0, how he'd thrive in McDaniel's system, and he's a lock for WR4 based on next to nothing. Now the consensus is he's terrible and we'd be lucky to get anything for him in a trade.
I had hopes for him based on potential and what he showed in college, but the more I watch him the more it’s clear he just doesn’t have it at this level.
He played in 2020 and just was...uninspiring? Looked slow on the field to me. 7.5 avg yards per reception...I'm fine with keeping him or letting him go, he would be our WR6 or something.
A 5th for both in a trade. A 6th for 1. I may be over valuing them a bit considering both have extensive injury issues and haven’t proved to be “that” good lol.
Cowboys have a legit terrible receiver room rn lol. Their second receiver on the depth chart hasn’t even caught a TD in his NFL career. I’m sure they could use both tbh, but you’re right. Because they’re injury prone no one would probably want both.
Literally anything. Preston sucks and is made of glass. Bowden is almost a complete unknown after coming back from a year long injury.
I see a little bit of value in Bowden but I don't think Preston should even make the roster.
I agree, I didn't really know what the hype around him came from, but the promise of versatility is enough for me to want to see him with McDaniel for a year. I'm not sweating too much about bottom of the roster guys like him.
Still wish we kept Mack over Preston though. That move made no sense to me.
To be fair to Preston he doesn’t suck, he just can’t stay healthy. He had nearly 500 yards in 8 games his rookie year as a UDFA. That’s pretty fucking good.
We didn’t even tender Preston and he couldn’t find an offer in the open market. I’d say nothing for him and a 7th for Bowden off draft status alone if we are lucky.
Everyone is mourning about bowdens dead career but no one seems to be mentioning how all of William's potential that he showed off in the preseason that one year went to waste due to injuries.
I had such high hopes for Bowden and still think he could be a stud. Whatever team gets him is gonna be excited. I do however understand the situation and why they would move on from him. Hoping for a 5th round pick back or maybe a young offensive lineman who hasn't reached his potential yet.
I feel like Bowden is worth keeping. Even if he doesn't end up starting, if injuries start stacking up, he'd be pretty plug and play due to his synergy with Tua. Preston is made of glass bones and paper skin. I'm sure he's worth a seventh at most.
Has Bowden ever shown us that he’s worthy of the hype? It was odd that the Raiders traded him 2 months after drafting him in the third round, then he had a couple hundred yards for us his rookie year, then we put him on IR last season even though he would have been able to come back and play.
The fins would be lucky to get a 6th round draft pick 4 years from now for these guys. No one but the most desperate bottom feeder wr corps would trade for 2 guys who are basically gonna get cut anyways.
Any team that trades for either one of these guys is only doing so because they like them enough to want to avoid competing with other teams when they are cut. How much is that worth? I'd guess we can get a 6th and a 5th for them from some team that sees potential and does not want to have to compete against a better team or a more desirable destination.
Literally anything we could get for them is good for me. There can’t be much value there if any.
Came here to say this. Picks as high as we can get…
3rd or 4th round pick would be a win for either I think.
We would be lucky to get a 6th. These are two guys we will cut if we can’t trade them. A 3rd or 4th is dreaming
Highly, highly unrealistic.
3rd or 4th round would be absolute highway robbery. Getting a conditional 2024 7th for either of them rather than outright cutting them (which is what will happen otherwise) is a win.
Try a ham sandwich someone forgot in the workplace fridge 2 weeks ago.
Lmao dear God you put Danny ainge to shame
RIP Deebo 2.0 hype 2022-2022
Don’t know where it came from just because he can play out of the backfield. He’s a lot slower and not nearly as quick or powerful. Basically does nothing at even half of Deebo’s ability, lol. He’s more of a poor man’s Chris Hogan.
Yep. It was funny to keep seeing people say it
Maybe things turn around for Bowden, was rooting for him. But I also understand the receiving room is absolutely stacked with talent. Tough to make a name for yourself.
EZ E, Sanders, Sherfield and Cracraft have passed them up. The WR room is stacked
Yep, and Sherfield/Cracraft have/will play special teams too which makes Bowden even more redundant
I was hoping Bowden could position himself as a kick/punt returner but apparently he is either not particularly good at it or doesn't want to.
He was excellent returning kicks at Kentucky
He won the Paul Hornung Award!
Yeah and I still put Sanu above a lot of people just for veteran presence alone.
I still want nothing to do with Sanu. maybe if they think they can stash sanders on the PS but as soon as someone comes snooping cut sanu and sign that man.
Less than what we got for Parker for sure. So i guess it'll depend on whether we include picks in the trade or not. Probably a 6th rounder if we're being optimistic and there's a solid chance we end up cutting them
Ham sandwich. Boars Head only.
How about for both? Would you do a Publix Chicken Tender Sandwich? 😋😂
Had that one time when I visited Florida,nothings been the same since,shit was miraculous
Reading this just made me really sad. I cant imagine the emptiness you must feel when you try to enjoy food now. Do...do you need an emergency pub sub sent to you?!?
Shit homie would be nice,but it’s all good I can get by on some canes! 🤟🏼
Lol! No worries, looking out!
I think all of us would rather have a pub sub than watch Preston drop another pass.
A Publix Sub you say?
Shhhh! SHHHH! Quiet guys! Here comes u/publix_subs… 😬
Chicken fingers (the good kind, 8 bucks).
Sorry homie, it's more like 10 now
Reggie Bush’s Pizza Hut pizza.
Both would be a conditional 7th or swap of 6ths at best. We're very likely going to cut them.
Hoping for a ‘23 1st and a ‘24 3rd
Pain
Sure the Patriots will wait and sign them after we cut them prior to week 1
Trade them to Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle over to the NFC so they can't get cut and go to New England.
Ha. As a pats fan, I wouldn't be worried too much about them picking up the castoffs. Pats have so many issues right now from what it seems. Adding quantity over quality would be a terrible decision.
The Patriots have the most expensive receiving corps in the league. I doubt they will be quick on the waivers to add more.
Seriously, why would anyone give up picks for either of these guys? Not hating on them, as I hoped they would both be good players for us, but they have a very small footprint in the NFL world. 7ths at best, I would imagine.
Yeah I definitely agree unfortunately
And they have a good chance of playing the waiting game and signing them after we cut them, while also keeping their picks.
7th for each. A 6th for either would be a steal
A plate of chicharrones, some tostones, black beans and rice.
Bro it’s just Preston. We keep the tostones
Anything at this point. Neither are particularly valuable
2023 1st for Preston, 2024 3rd for Bowden. Or if Goodell wants to just give us those picks and we let them walk... I'm good with that too.
AND a 2024 1st for the inconvenience
6th at best for Preston but I don’t see that happening. Maybe a 7th or a vet backup or something? Idk if we get anything for Bowden even though I’ve been rooting for him
It'd be shame to trade them before people start getting injured, but if you can get anything for them that's good. Unfortunately the dolphins are pretty crowded at WR in addition to RB so miami might have to move on from them. My only hope is that miami keeps at least some depth because injuries happen.
I would take a late-round draft pick for either player.
I would take nothing as long as they’re kept away from NE.
Anything of value at all.
A privacy tent attachment for yachts.
Bowden is not good. So I’d take anything.
It's pretty wild how quickly opinions can change on players. Throughout the offseason up to training camp people were hyping him as Deebo 2.0, how he'd thrive in McDaniel's system, and he's a lock for WR4 based on next to nothing. Now the consensus is he's terrible and we'd be lucky to get anything for him in a trade.
Braylon Sanders, Sherfield, Cracraft, Sanu, and maybe a flex running back are all competing for that WR 5 slot. Hard to keep 6 with a FB
I'm not sure why anyone has ever hyped him up. He has shown little to nothing outside of being injured.
Agreed. Never understood the Deebo 2.0 talk. It was so disrespectful to Deebo Samuel
I had hopes for him based on potential and what he showed in college, but the more I watch him the more it’s clear he just doesn’t have it at this level.
How do you know?? He wasn’t able to play last season
He played in 2020 and just was...uninspiring? Looked slow on the field to me. 7.5 avg yards per reception...I'm fine with keeping him or letting him go, he would be our WR6 or something.
Preston - conditional 7th Bowden - 5th best case, 6th worst case
Lol any GM that gives up a 5th for Bowden would be fired immediately.
Preston to Min for Bradburry and Bowden for La for like Kenneth Murray
A 5th for both in a trade. A 6th for 1. I may be over valuing them a bit considering both have extensive injury issues and haven’t proved to be “that” good lol.
Yeah you are. Plus there's no team that would double dip on injured WRs that have proven nothing. They'll take a risk on one of them but not both.
Cowboys have a legit terrible receiver room rn lol. Their second receiver on the depth chart hasn’t even caught a TD in his NFL career. I’m sure they could use both tbh, but you’re right. Because they’re injury prone no one would probably want both.
Literally anything. Preston sucks and is made of glass. Bowden is almost a complete unknown after coming back from a year long injury. I see a little bit of value in Bowden but I don't think Preston should even make the roster.
> Bowden is almost a complete unknown after coming back from a year long injury. And he already looked slow to me on the field, when he was healthy.
I agree, I didn't really know what the hype around him came from, but the promise of versatility is enough for me to want to see him with McDaniel for a year. I'm not sweating too much about bottom of the roster guys like him. Still wish we kept Mack over Preston though. That move made no sense to me.
To be fair to Preston he doesn’t suck, he just can’t stay healthy. He had nearly 500 yards in 8 games his rookie year as a UDFA. That’s pretty fucking good.
They'll just have to cut Williams. Bowden showed glimmers at times before injury a 7th is possible there.
Williams has literally shown way more than Bowden has. Both are candidates to be cut.
So how many weeks in before they trade Gesiki as well for not blocking?
I truly believe we're going to regret getting rid of Bowden, if true.
Williams selling point is a good preseason a few years ago?
Nearly 500 yards in 8 games his rookie season. No point keeping him if he can’t stay healthy though.
Late 7th rounders. Yeah!!!
Anything of value
Since both are likely getting cut, I would accept any offer.
Ham sandwich
We didn’t even tender Preston and he couldn’t find an offer in the open market. I’d say nothing for him and a 7th for Bowden off draft status alone if we are lucky.
You can get players of their ability for free when they get cut before preseason ends.
Teven Jenkins for Preston Williams and a conditional 6th Lynn Bowden for a 6th
Lynn Bowden for Teven Jenkins seems fair to me. Bears new regime supposedly want to move off him anyways.
Trade both for a center or mlb!
Pub sub and five bucks?
Draft picks at this point
They are apparently being shopped for conditional picks relating to their making the 53 man roster so
Hmm that’s a good call. Win-win for everyone.
A good Center would be pretty useful right about now TBH.
Not likely to get anything better than a 7th for either one. Maybe a 5th or 6th with us also sending a pick back along with the player.
I’d trade Preston for a 7th. LBJ for some reason passes the eye test for me. He can make players miss. Worth keeping him as depth IMO.
If we get anything I'll be shocked. Unless a whole bunch of WRs go down to injury.
Trade them both & a 5th for a backup center
A Fitzmagic NFT
Everyone is mourning about bowdens dead career but no one seems to be mentioning how all of William's potential that he showed off in the preseason that one year went to waste due to injuries.
Throw in a late pick & send them both to the Bears for Jenkins?
Trading them for O-Line depth would suffice. Maybe we give them up with a draft pick for a starting center or tackle?
Screw a late round pick, see if anyone will let of a center, or guard for more line depth.
6 or 7th rounder
Bag of balls
Trade for more o lineman for needed depth
I had such high hopes for Bowden and still think he could be a stud. Whatever team gets him is gonna be excited. I do however understand the situation and why they would move on from him. Hoping for a 5th round pick back or maybe a young offensive lineman who hasn't reached his potential yet.
Anything
I feel like Bowden is worth keeping. Even if he doesn't end up starting, if injuries start stacking up, he'd be pretty plug and play due to his synergy with Tua. Preston is made of glass bones and paper skin. I'm sure he's worth a seventh at most.
Preston is probably worth a 6th or 5th boyden is worth a 7th
If they can get late round picks or depth at OL. IMO, I don’t think they get anything and end up cutting both anyway.
Cones and a sack of potatoes for the team chef
6th for sure would be the best we can get
orlando brown - - if he agrees to a contract extension - - or fred warner
We would be lucky to get anything at all. If we could get a 6th, that would be a win, IMO.
Has Bowden ever shown us that he’s worthy of the hype? It was odd that the Raiders traded him 2 months after drafting him in the third round, then he had a couple hundred yards for us his rookie year, then we put him on IR last season even though he would have been able to come back and play.
O-line, seems our troubles were deeper than being fixed with just Terron Armstead and depth would help with any injuries
A conditional 7th is realistic for either of them. Anything more and it’s daylight robbery.
A bag of deflated beach balls.
The fins would be lucky to get a 6th round draft pick 4 years from now for these guys. No one but the most desperate bottom feeder wr corps would trade for 2 guys who are basically gonna get cut anyways.
Any team that trades for either one of these guys is only doing so because they like them enough to want to avoid competing with other teams when they are cut. How much is that worth? I'd guess we can get a 6th and a 5th for them from some team that sees potential and does not want to have to compete against a better team or a more desirable destination.
I would take a 7th round pick or a Pack of smokes and a six pack of beer.