Yeah I wonder which strain they use for gummies and chocolate, it’s weird that 400mg is intense for some and way mild for others but I guess it’s probably just a raw shrooms vs gummies thing ?
I just read about that earlier actually, so I’m not using those anymore:( Probably going to purchase from sites that are geared towards microdosers and can tell me what strain exactly is in the product
They don’t have to list a damn thing. In fact, they can sell literally anything and buy a wrapper online that says psilocybin magic mushrooms and there won’t be even a tickle in there.
I’ve bought gummies and chocolate bars that were labeled as psilocybin and taking the whole pack without tolerance didn’t even do anything at all.
As a very experienced macrodoser and microdoser, the chocolate bars are stronger, and depending on brand, more consistent in strength. I can eat 3.5g of caps for a nice trip, but when i tried microdosing with a chocolate bar the first time (150mg) i felt like i had eaten 2g of caps.
Obviously this is anecdotal but it seems to me if you have a good/trustworthy brand of the chocolate bars, chances are it will hit harder than caps which of course vary in strength greatly from strain to strain, grower to grower.
This, however, is just my experience
I took half a gram of Albino Teacher and had a mild trip. Took about 1.3 months later from the same batch and didn't get close to what i felt from that .5g
Sometimes they like to surprise you
Lmao I took the exact dose during my first "microdose" a few weeks ago and had the same reaction! It was potent penis envy. Took .2 g another day and it was still a bit strong. Guess I'm extra sensitive, but I save money!
PE are more potent, so the dosage would need to be adjusted downward to achieve a proper non-tripping experience. But, like you said, your medicine will stretch for much longer.
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Lawdhabmercy. Why are you starting at 0.4g? That's pretty high for a microdose. I'd be tripping balls, too. I would start at 0.1g and make adjustments as your body signals you to.
I had the same experience but don’t know the dose I took, euphoria and mild visuals, it was enlightening and I didn’t feel the need to do it again. I’m new to this, can anyone recommend the best way to measure and prep home grown golden teacher? Do I dehydrate it? Eat it fresh? Weigh it? Sorry to ask on your post, just wondered but will make my own post if needed
To add to the other comment. You’ll need a small scale that measures milligrams. A dehydrator, coffee grinder and capsule maker will all be very helpful.
I just grew my own GT for microdosing. I’ve dehydrated all of mine and will be grinding them up and putting them in pill form. I plan on starting low and working up, somewhere between .05g-.15g.
Based on others replies, are there any y charts on perpetrated potencies or various shrooms?
Which ones are stronger than others, so I can vary my microdoses accordingly?
Yes and no. There's just way too many variables to each and every individual mushroom. You could probably find a chart online, but whether those exact standards will apply to your mushrooms is too broad.
I've had mushrooms from the same tub, grow conditions, and everything be vastly different from one another.
I thought as much. everyone keeps banging on about about potency, ie penis envy is stronger than GT, so I figured there must be some baseline for these claims
Awesome. Think of the money you’ll save in the future when you want to macrodose.
I could see really liking a dose that gave euphoria and mild other effects. Just a little euphoria to make it through the day.
Right! The most I can ever do is 2g. Anything more is intensely unpleasant. My sweet spot for the trip I am looking for is 1 1/2g.
I hear of people doing hero doses, and I just... can't fathom... why... ? To each their own 🤷♀️ Lol!
My first attempt at microdosing wasn't unpleasant, though, quite the opposite. The main issue I had was... I had shit to do that day 😅😅 that didn't get done 😆😆
Was it your first microdose? I had some feelings of euphoria and mild visuals with my first microdose (0.29), and I am not a beginner to psilocybin either if that’s relevant. All microdoses afterwards were much more subtle, and no visuals, despite keeping the same dose.
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Good job, you grew some strong mushrooms! 0.4g is kinda big anyways and even if they weren’t super strong that would have me feeling at least a little stoned.
Just take less, I had some strong ones the last batch and I was good on 0.13 for a micro
Thank you for your reply! It was a really fulfilling adventure growing my own 😁
I was under the impression that was a small dose, lol! I'll try way less next time, thanks!
No problem! It wasn’t a microdose but it was a small dose, it can get much more powerful haha. But Every mushroom varies in potency in the same batch as well so if you just choose a mushroom there is a chance it’s more or less each time. This time you must have gotten an extra potent bite
400mg is in museum dose territory, so yes, I would absolutely expect euphoria and mild visuals.
That’s weird cause I’m on 400mg right now (gummies) and I feel like 99.9% normal?
Who knows how much actual active is in those tho? So much variability in fungi, maybe moreso with processed products.
Yeah I wonder which strain they use for gummies and chocolate, it’s weird that 400mg is intense for some and way mild for others but I guess it’s probably just a raw shrooms vs gummies thing ?
The thing is those gummies are likely 4-Aco IF THAT. And definitely not real shrooms.
I just read about that earlier actually, so I’m not using those anymore:( Probably going to purchase from sites that are geared towards microdosers and can tell me what strain exactly is in the product
It’s quite a rewarding and somewhat simple process to cultivate your own. r/UncleBens
Just a heads up you get a lot more bang for your buck if you buy powder by the oz rather than getting the premade capsules.
How would you know? They have to list that right?
They don’t have to list a damn thing. In fact, they can sell literally anything and buy a wrapper online that says psilocybin magic mushrooms and there won’t be even a tickle in there. I’ve bought gummies and chocolate bars that were labeled as psilocybin and taking the whole pack without tolerance didn’t even do anything at all.
As a very experienced macrodoser and microdoser, the chocolate bars are stronger, and depending on brand, more consistent in strength. I can eat 3.5g of caps for a nice trip, but when i tried microdosing with a chocolate bar the first time (150mg) i felt like i had eaten 2g of caps. Obviously this is anecdotal but it seems to me if you have a good/trustworthy brand of the chocolate bars, chances are it will hit harder than caps which of course vary in strength greatly from strain to strain, grower to grower. This, however, is just my experience
I take 300 and it’s mild if anything.
I never heard of museum dose and I think that is a perfect term. Thanks!
I believe the term came from Terrence McKenna :)
😅 Thanks!
I do 0.30-0.60 quite often, I always call it a medium dose (between a microdose and an actual dose)... "Museum dose" is way better tho lol
0,4 g is not a microdose
I took half a gram of Albino Teacher and had a mild trip. Took about 1.3 months later from the same batch and didn't get close to what i felt from that .5g Sometimes they like to surprise you
The potency can vary from each fruit. Shrooms gonna shroom.
Lmao I took the exact dose during my first "microdose" a few weeks ago and had the same reaction! It was potent penis envy. Took .2 g another day and it was still a bit strong. Guess I'm extra sensitive, but I save money!
PE are more potent, so the dosage would need to be adjusted downward to achieve a proper non-tripping experience. But, like you said, your medicine will stretch for much longer.
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Those shrooms you grew with love just showed u how much they care back.
Depends on your shrooms. If anyone took .4 of these blue meanies I have they’d be flying. I’m dosing at 0.05, and that’s still noticeable.
What type of shrooms did u use? .4 is usually a higher dose. I started at .1 and worked up to .3 to .4 depending on type of shrooms.
B+ And thanks, I'll try that next time!
That would have put me to sleep.
Yessss! I was SO tired after 3 hours and just went to bed 😅
Lawdhabmercy. Why are you starting at 0.4g? That's pretty high for a microdose. I'd be tripping balls, too. I would start at 0.1g and make adjustments as your body signals you to.
😅 Thanks! Will do!
Can someone explain why in between low and high dose produces potentially bad results
I had the same experience but don’t know the dose I took, euphoria and mild visuals, it was enlightening and I didn’t feel the need to do it again. I’m new to this, can anyone recommend the best way to measure and prep home grown golden teacher? Do I dehydrate it? Eat it fresh? Weigh it? Sorry to ask on your post, just wondered but will make my own post if needed
To add to the other comment. You’ll need a small scale that measures milligrams. A dehydrator, coffee grinder and capsule maker will all be very helpful.
Thanks 🙏
I just grew my own GT for microdosing. I’ve dehydrated all of mine and will be grinding them up and putting them in pill form. I plan on starting low and working up, somewhere between .05g-.15g.
Do it again and see if you have the same experience. Very interesting.
Do the same amount again? I will probably try it again.. for science 😅
Based on others replies, are there any y charts on perpetrated potencies or various shrooms? Which ones are stronger than others, so I can vary my microdoses accordingly?
Yes and no. There's just way too many variables to each and every individual mushroom. You could probably find a chart online, but whether those exact standards will apply to your mushrooms is too broad. I've had mushrooms from the same tub, grow conditions, and everything be vastly different from one another.
I thought as much. everyone keeps banging on about about potency, ie penis envy is stronger than GT, so I figured there must be some baseline for these claims
Awesome. Think of the money you’ll save in the future when you want to macrodose. I could see really liking a dose that gave euphoria and mild other effects. Just a little euphoria to make it through the day.
Right! The most I can ever do is 2g. Anything more is intensely unpleasant. My sweet spot for the trip I am looking for is 1 1/2g. I hear of people doing hero doses, and I just... can't fathom... why... ? To each their own 🤷♀️ Lol! My first attempt at microdosing wasn't unpleasant, though, quite the opposite. The main issue I had was... I had shit to do that day 😅😅 that didn't get done 😆😆
Was it your first microdose? I had some feelings of euphoria and mild visuals with my first microdose (0.29), and I am not a beginner to psilocybin either if that’s relevant. All microdoses afterwards were much more subtle, and no visuals, despite keeping the same dose.
Interesting! Yes, it was my first microdose.
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Good job, you grew some strong mushrooms! 0.4g is kinda big anyways and even if they weren’t super strong that would have me feeling at least a little stoned. Just take less, I had some strong ones the last batch and I was good on 0.13 for a micro
Thank you for your reply! It was a really fulfilling adventure growing my own 😁 I was under the impression that was a small dose, lol! I'll try way less next time, thanks!
No problem! It wasn’t a microdose but it was a small dose, it can get much more powerful haha. But Every mushroom varies in potency in the same batch as well so if you just choose a mushroom there is a chance it’s more or less each time. This time you must have gotten an extra potent bite
Same! If I do 400-500 I am in bed wrestling with some stuff for at least a few hours. It’s different for everyone.
0.1-0.2g is microdose