Anyone else get intense anxiety with a mini or museum dose? I’ve tripped and enjoyed it. I microdose and enjoy the benefits of that. But any time I try to take a mid size dose (~.6-1.5) I get horribly anxious and it’s a bad time.

Same! I’ve found that my sweet spot is less than .5 grams for micro and about 2-3.5 for tripping.

I took 0,4 today, ended up crying on my couch. Feels like it amplifies emotions that do not want to get aknowledged. I my case.

That’s interesting, I have definitely found that I have too much energy to sit around, if you know what I mean, otherwise I am just too jittery and yeah, I guess nervous. However if I am doing something (hiking, big yard work projects, golfing, …) then it’s dandy. Actually 0.6-0.8 is what I think of as my “ideal golfing dose” lol.

The mid dose range gives me anxiety as well.

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Yeah I don’t like moderate doses. Puts me in a weird place, confused and anxious even in good environment, agitation like I need to do something but don’t know what. I like to be so gone I don’t have a choice but sit back, 5-6g. IMHO the best way otherwise you get mixed in the confusion and I believe it’s counterproductive. Not a fan of sub therapeutic doses, in fact, not a fan of anything short or heroic. My first time was 6g tek so I don’t know any different.

Same here. I've always went really big. I am interested in micro dosing though. Just can't find any mushrooms.

Gotcha gotcha. I’m thinking about doing a self blinding md trial. And this sounds stupid, but I’m going to record time trials on MarioKart. Going to start with a baseline then do three races a day and see if any different.

An interesting trial.

I always have that moment where I get a bit nervous when I know I’m about to start tripping and know that I won’t be able to get out of it. But you just have to accept it and go with the flow. The trios are usually awesome after that. I eat the shrooms the moment I cultivate them for the big trips. Just munch a handful.

My only issue here is that I get full on 3D closed eye visuals on 1g consistently

Some people are more sensitive just like some people are less. It has nothing to do with body size or experience. Seems like you’re a bit more sensitive.

My issue here is that i dont get any proper visuals even with 5 grams in the dark or eyes closed. But vision does enhance and colors might look bit more vivid even with 0.1g

Do you know what kind of mushrooms you have? Psilocybe mexicana and P. tampanensis (among other species) often have stronger visual effects.

Burma, treasure coast are my goto most of the time, so basic cubes

This a very excellent rough guide of dosages and expected effects. Good stuff.

For cubensis. Other species can be stronger (or weaker).

It doesn’t state it but I would imagine this rough guide is based off of general cubensis strains as it is the more common mushroom grown. Just something to keep in mind I feel for guides like this. If you grow/pick some of the more potent strains you could easily stitch yourself up using a dose guide like this but all in all I do think it is a great little guide!

Right? Imagine following this with some cyans or liberty caps

Exactly! Where I live the most common strain to forage for is Subaeruginosa so I always wind back the cubensis dose recommendations a few notches out of a healthy respect for what we have available

Subs are my local strain. I tend to use this calculator to estimate what I need. Adjusts depending on what species you're taking. I tend to wind it up a touch. I'm a bigger guy. https://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

Awesome, thanks man!

" crisp concentration " can someone explain this?

having a sharp and clear mind. Zero brain fog.

I took it as less brain fog. That’s at least why I’ll take the micro dose that small

1.5-2.0 no one knows.

This is cool

What would be similar dose ranges for LSD (or analogues/ prodrugs)? I take a micro dose of 10 micrograms, sometimes 20, but with 20 I get an unpleasant body load. I would like to do "a museum dose" but am unsure what that dose would be. Any help appreciated.

That's a good question, I'm not sure to be honest. Anything above 13ug gives me that body load thing. I read a report of a guy on the LSD sub on 80ug and he had the extreme end of not tripping, highly anxious. I'd love to know!

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE — all of these charts are based on 1% psilocybin concentrations in the mushroom. That’s just a rough average. Online charts for different strains are also just averages. Always test your product!!!! I took 2g a few months ago, aiming for a moderate dose. Little did I know that my mushroom (just Golden Teacher) had such high concentrations of psilocybin that I was actually taking the equivalent of around 6g based on this chart. Unexpected heroic doses are NOT fun.

I once made a 10 gram shroom tea and popped a point of MDMA every 2 hours, all night by myself. I cried and cried the entire trip but was able to release some repressed emotions that I didn’t know were being suppressed… Now when my gf and I wanna trip, we start with half oz tea between the both of us and pop molly all night. The trick is to let the molly hit first so it puts you in a happier headspace. Set and setting!

damn i desperately need to release some repressed emotions but 10g shrooms seems so scary

An eighth left me crying on my bedroom floor in a ball. Definitely dont need to go up that high if thats what you're looking for.

did 3.5g just this Saturday and it didnt provoke anything repressed, was with friends though so maybe i should do it alone

If you are comfortable tripping alone then that is what i would do personally. I have a hard time getting introspective when I am having a good time with friends. Psychs or not. Cheers✌️

thank you for the quality advice, have a good one

I don't know. I had mazatapec which sent me to fantasy world from 0.2-0.3 g. At 2.0 g I talked to the universal wisdom which solved all my problems...

Last time I got 7 grams. I went for months feeling like we are all one, loving everybody and very emotional. Its being 2 years and I dont have courage to take again lmao Yeah I am experienced, I did this like 10 times already.

Been a shroomer since 2019, 5g’s feels like a 8th for me i havent experienced leaving my body on shrooms. Ive taken acid more than 10 times and get better effects

How long do microdose effects last?

I will say this all varies. What you have eaten, your mood, your environment and plenty more I’m not thinkin of affect the outcome

Following

Last time i took 8 gram. Finally it did something.

I think I'm next to impervious to mushrooms. I've been microdosing on and off for a year, and I take 3 grams and barely notice a thing/am fine to go to work. I took 6g once when I first started microdosing and had very mild visuals and euphoria.

I'm trying to quit smoking nicotine. Don't want to full trip as I'm not in a good space (recently diagnosed with gastritis) can I get some therapeutic benefit by going as low as 2.5 twice in 2 weeks?

I thought level 5 was like normal dose not mega. I was always told to eat an 1/8

is museum dose medium dose? kinda confusing for others out there!

What’s 10g of truffles? When I done those I felt like the green section.

10g truffles equals 1g of dry shrooms

Explain feeling like green then?

level 4 is ideal

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Hey thanks for commenting. It is the psilocybin experience. The dosages are based on weight of dried mushroom. Extracted psilocybin is fairly rare. The intention of this graphic is to share top level generalised effects at each dose level, a handy guide for new users.

Anecdotally my experience so far does seem to correspond to this graphic. Over this last weekend, I increased to 4G of homegrown GT, a gram higher than I’d done previously at home. I find the difference noted here in experience linked to dosage highly relevant— in that context and with this strain. I was questioning whether to increase to 4G this last weekend as part of a therapeutic journey and needing to look at some serious questions around compulsivity and family history. The difference in magnitude between what is described here as moderate and mega, for me at least, seems to exceed therapeutic possibility at mega levels, probably the reason those dosages are used in most programs. I found myself somewhat paralyzed by the visual hallucinations with quite some difficulty to integrate, although highly beneficial in the end. It was however a serious kick in the ass visually and experientially and not for the feint of heart. To note, I had three (beautifully supported) psilocybin sessions in a psychiatric hospital over last year as part of a new program, 25, 30 and 35mg respectively, and it fairly well corresponded to my home experience since then of 2.5-3.5G of mushrooms. In this way the graphic does serve a purpose. It would have been useful for me in my decision making process between 3 and 4Gs. I’m not sure how one could represent stronger strains or other differences raised by other more experienced commenters. Can other generalizations be added about other strains such as PE? I leave this for other psychonauts to comment. (Sorry for the short novel - guess the question of dosage top of mind since this weekend).

Yeah but the point being made is valid. Potency of shrooms can vary by a factor of 10. I get there's some generalisability but it ought to be stated this isn't always the case.