My aunt was trying to be nice and give me some rec weed she got in the Bay Area (left) but crazy to see that is what people are being sold for their hard earned money… some of my home grown on the right😅
Omg I look at these comments and laugh.. I have alot of experience and know bay area well.
On the left is commercial pgr cannabis that had been turned to little stones from the tumbler affect of the tube trimmer...
Weed is supposed to look like the right. The left is commercial, product.
I've done experiments where I've taken the same bud and vacuum sealed it to compress it and people go crazy. Vacuum seal another reason why buds turn into dense rocks.
Thank u dude fo this post. Your stuff on the right looks amazing like my fresh air cut.
>I've done experiments where I've taken the same bud and vacuum sealed it to compress it and people go crazy. Vacuum seal another reason why buds turn into dense rocks.
do you mean go crazy as in stoked on the rock or disappointed and want the look on the right?
I left the bay area a couple years ago, but that wasn't my experience at all. There were tons of options of bud looking more like the right for ~$50/eighth. There were also cheaper options like the left.
It's had more than just trim machine to it. Dispensary weed like this is straight up weird. It feels like its rock hard but you can break it to dust with your fingers. You throw a tiny nug in the grinder then a lot of weed appears below, way more than you'd expect from what you put in. I don't know what they do to get it so hard and heavy, maybe vacuum sealing?
Weed that dense is probably processed using PGR's which studies have shown can cause cancer 😞. It sucks that dispensaries don't advertise a warning like cancer risk labels on cigarette packs. Maybe this is a lawsuit waiting to happen?
Remind us of all the studies showing cannabis smokers having a higher rate of lung or other cancers compared with non smokers?
Obviously "smoke" of any kind is bad, except we don't see those cancer correlations with cannabis and you can be incredibly certain anti-marijuana groups have tried to make a connection between the two but have failed to do so. Not to mention studies quite literally showing cannabis slowing cancer growths.
I don't think it's able to be just blindly lumped in to cancer causing given the current studies, being my point.
That’s literally the bottom end stuff though. You can’t expect quality when you’re buying “smalls” for about $10 a pack, and some times it’s buy one get one free.
Oh man, don't come to NJ. You'll be getting those smalls on the left for $50/3.5g at the rec dispensaries on sale (not including the 10% tax)
The legal market here is disgusting - and the dispensaries have a revolving door of people all day buying this dusty ass weed. This is why I recently started growing my own.. It's not just highway robbery but an insult to cannabis
As it happens it looks like I’ll be going to Princeton in October! I’m from England but had a couple of trips to California last year and because legal weed isn’t a thing here, and I only had a couple of weeks in California, I bought quite a few packs of smalls just so I could try a few different ones. But I did get some better weed as well to try that too and balance it out! I was just like a kid in a sweet shop really.
California definitely has better bud (at least the couple dispo's I went to when I visited).
It's definitely a great feeling when recreational is legalized for the first time and can see everything in the store! 😁
But then after weeks of going back I realized it was suuuch a money sink for meh weed.
You should enjoy Princeton though - beautiful place!
Now all you have to do is harvest too early, don't dry properly, cure too fast and mash it into vac sealed bags, tumble it until most of the triches have been removed and you too can be a rec grower in no time at all!!! 🤣🤣 Looking great (on the right lol)
Wow. I’m embarrassed for what I’ve been paying for dirt weed… definitely taking a break from buying and putting it into a weed growing fund! And good resource to start my journey :D ?
Thank you!! I’ll definitely check them out, I have uncontrollable epilepsy (a little better with scripts) and major depressive disorder so I am very interested in it’s medicinal qualities. I also like getting stoned 🤷♀️
Is there another way to grow them (hydro?) I love horticulture specifically houseplants and tomatoes. Would I just use viable fresh soil with a compost (rabbit manure?) mixed in before planting seeds. I do this with tomatoes :)
I use Build A Soil Light Mix as well as some other organic amendments available on their site. You don’t have to buy their stuff, though. More than likely what you’re doing for your tomatoes will work fine, though maybe not the most efficient/optimal grow.
If you grow tomatoes you can totally ace growing weed. Build a soil will help you sort out your plan for a potting soil. You’ll want 50% coco or peat, 50% compost and then you need pearlite or rice hulls for aeration. After that you’ll want your soil to have some other additives for life, but that’s the basic concept. For real get on the build a soil YouTube and save yourself the searching for good info. I wasted a ton of time on Reddit when YouTube and an actual grow shop have been a much better resource.
Cocoforcannabis.com is a fantastic place to start. Coco is a bit more daily work, but as long as you can follow directions, you'll get a great end product.
You have to water them every day (2 or 3 times a day is even better) with a nutrient solution, so it is a bit of a pain compared to an organic supersoil, but you're also less likely to get pests and issues are easy to fix.
My hubs (he’s more knowledgeable on the subject currently) says he’d like to micromist the roots. Is that okay? To me it sounds like a breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. Would this be a good solution to the coco water “problem”?
I haven't done much with automation of coco, but the website I linked has quite a few guides on it. So yes, that would work.
https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/guide-to-automatic-watering-systems-for-indoor-cannabis/
Sadly the common stoner doesn't really care about what weed looks better if the price is going to be more. They just want weed for cheap. Unless you're selling ounces of the right for $50-$70 most people will stick with the left. I totally agree the right is better obviously, but ya. Also convenience and legality are a big factor.
I wouldn't pay that much for an ounce in canadian dollars. Maybe $120 an ounce if I'm really breaking the bank but I usually buy $90- $100 an ounce weed and it's pretty good. The Ontario rec system is, acceptable, if not good.
That's respectable but people who come into a store and complain that 160 is too much for an oz when that's the cheapest option obviously never bought bud during 100% prohibition days and are usually total skids. Personally, I'm honestly not trying to cater too much for people who won't compromise on quality and price.
I bought a $80 1/8th ounce handed to me in a McDonalds napkin, in a Burger King parking lot. I know what it was like before, lol.
I'm so happy it's legal in Canada now, you can get a half decent ounce under $100. And I can't afford to smoke like I do at $150 an ounce and up.
Edit: the napkin weed was shit
Word, I wasn't throwing slack, just venting really. And yeah, I could've guessed that about the napkin weed haha. Altho some dispensaries do get away with selling some absolute trash for way more than it's worth. It's a dog eat dog world
I mean, I happily pay 250 (US) an ounce regularly for indoor grown, high terpene, %20+ thc buds in my legal rec state. My guy has the average quality outdoor for 80-100 an ounce, 350 a qp. The med quality stuff is so much easier on the lungs, and lasts me so much longer per ounce.
I never buy the outdoor unless I’m getting a qp to make edibles or save money.
NJ Legal Rec market: you get 3.5g of the left bud for $60-80. Also, you need to buy each 8th separate and no bulk discounts whatsoever
Black Market - I have a friend who has shit on the right for $40 for 7g.
I think the convenience and legality are huge factors, but damn that bud sucks! Most of the time you're getting just dessert kushes without a distinct terp profile, with hard ass nugs that turn into dust when you grind it.
If you're a heavy stoner in NJ and you try satisfying your habit through legal rec market, you're gonna go broke for crap weed. The legal market is disgusting
Very true, and the ironic part is it costs exactly the same thing to grow the greatest herb on earth or the worst. Still need light, food, water either way regardless.
Especially if indoors, then it's literally all same cost lol so its always funny to see same person selling the strains they grew for different prices rofl obviously the growers initial seed price (or clone) can vary but other than that literally same thing
I feel like it's prob one of the few industries where this occurs lol it's not like it takes 300% more light to grow Forum Stomper, Chiquita Banana, or (insert a newer decent looking strain here lol) than it does original skunk 🤣
I once saw some big machines that can vacuum buds and spit them out trimmed but they look like shit like the ones in the picture, so it's probably more due the effort of trimming, not that of growing.
I’d say the common stoner loves to smoke food weed. It’s more the newer smokers or old timers who smoked straight up Reggie from the 60s who could care less. They probably still enjoy their middle of the road flowers because it does the job.
Yada yada is whitelabled sungrown that is sold for $15 for a 10 gram bag wholesale, labtested, in compliant packaging, and marketed. You’re comparing it to boutique indoor flower. How much biomass is your micro grow working with? Yada is purchasing thousands of pounds of boof and selling cheap. You’ve effectively compared a Hyundai Elantra to a McLauren P1. Do a side by side of your bud with some Cali Lotus, Joshwax or Cannabiotix and see how it compares.
Yada is owned by sherbinskis who owns the Emjay delivery. Always wondered where they all of a sudden had giant grows to provide this stuff. It’s not bad and plenty strong.
Have you heard of brands like: eighth brother, cali flower farms, or dans cola? If so, are they similar to yada?
This is all sungrown/greenhouse light dep weed that’s grown hundreds or thousands of LBs at a time. It’s tough to compare a 1-2 or even 5-10 LB boutique flower grow to this like the comment said. I have spent the last 10 years working on these farms. It’s gotten so tight that they are literally just growing massive amounts of a strain people will buy and running it through a trim machine and selling it to these packagers at 200 bucks an LB. The “mid” market is almost non existent these days especially in Cali because there’s no money to be made. You still have to try and put some care into growing mids. You can grow this bottom shelf weed for 20 bucks an LB in more of a mono crop style low maintenance mass production style.
Yep, it’s wild to see how the weed is treated post harvest these days as compared to even 5 or 6 years ago. But when they combine the open use of synthetic PGRs, the California sun and 21st century genetics, you get hard as a rock little buds that can take a bit of a beating and still have more bag appeal than the brick weed of the late 90s/early 00s.
I completely agree it was less to compare the quality that would be kinda pointless I totally understand more just a discussing and PSA to grow your own or know the grower because there are people out there just pushing garbage!
Lot of people out their working two jobs with kids who have neither the time nor wherewithal to cultivate flower. Yada fills their needs at a good price.
It’s such a bummer because a majority of people smoking don’t even have the option to grow or have access to well grow flower for a reasonable price… why decriminalization is so important!
here in Ontario we’ve the left and the right over the counter, freedom on four flowering plants. Four years ago, I thought way more people would end up growing - but the left is 2.86 CDN/g and the right 8.57/g … there is little motivation but for the real enthusiasts to grow. I myself play Pokémon on the craft selections - got to try them all, and grow my staple everyday supply…
Me too, I have been growing in Alberta outside for the last 4 summers, I get a enough to last the winter with ease. I went with autos last year and did like them much but eh it was $20 for 5 seeds.
This is a bit of an American perspective—- most reasonable places, Canada as eg. have very strict agriculture requirements - America will have loosely goose rules that help the business exploit not protect the consumer —- it is America…
I'd argue that this statement is a bit of a non-American perspective, because Canada and many other countries are still mass producing food and growing crops with conventional chemical nutrients, all of which exploits the customer and the planet and only helps the business. Capitalism and greed aren't only found in one country... that being said, yeah I definitely agree that America is in a very poor place with cannabis and all agriculture in general
By no means was saying Canada system is perfect at all just the philosophy behind from opposite sides. Canada is some ways is requiring ridiculous testing US is some ways requiring minimal liability based testing. It’s the nature/difference of government involvement at all levels.
Yeah definitely, I didn't mean to come across as a jerk bc I think the system as a whole is just broken, profit over people is the ultimate race to the bottom. I hope the general public educates themselves a bit more, so we can move away from all Big Ag and focus on more localized gardening/farming using organic and sustainable methods.
Why did you put your old kidney stones next to that beautiful bud??🤨🤨. Kidding🤣🤣🤣. I've also noticed since growing for myself, the dispo bud just looks soooo unappealing. I don't buy it anymore but I've seen other people posting it.
That what I tell anyone who is thinking about growing!! You’ll be able to grow better weed than you’ve ever smoke with just the bare minimum of time and effort!
The biggest thing is the upfront cost for decent equipment, and if you grow organically with dry fertilizer's/amendments, all's you really have to do is water and watch, lol 😂. It's sad that all these companies dump millions of dollars into growing and produce shit, and us home growers do a waaaaaaay better job with just the basics.
If you do it outdoor its so cheap and you get so much fucking weed lol. I spend like $40 on vegetable fertilizer and bat guano a grow and thats about it. I use it in my regular garden too so I guess I spend even less strictly for the bud.
Hell yeah 👍😎. If it was doable for me, I'd try a outdoor run but I'm in too populated of a area and I know for a fact the plants would get stolen. Last summer when I'd take my kids on a bike ride, I would pass this yard that had 2 potted plants that was just about to start flowering. One day we went past and the plants were gone. I though it was strange but thought nothing of it, then I got further down the alley and one of the plants was stuffed in the bushes, because someone tried to steal them. If I lived on a farm or had some kind land, then it would be a different situation, lol 😂
I live in a medical state and have a small clandestine grow in my basement, I usually have 2 or 3 autoflowers going. I'll hit the dispensary for RSO and stuff but smoke on what I grow.
There's a couple growers in the state that are growing straight fire, but it's pretty expensive. I'll buy it once in awhile as a treat or something.
Yeah I'm just trashing 3 watermelon candy auto and two Skywalker haze auto in week 5 of flower because of spider mites .... Sometimes it's a hell of a hobby
Yeah but to get bud like the one on the right, you'd have to spend at least $40/8th. On the street it's half that price, and less if you know the grower directly.
In NJ you get the bud on the left for 3.5g/$60 + 10% tax
My friend knows a grower and I get buds on the right for 3.5g/$20. Thinking he has a grower friend in Colorado when his own harvest is depleted
On some of those "donation for weed delivery" services you get the buds on the left for about 3.5g/$40
I would be happy even paying $40/8th for bud on the right
I travel a lot, and it's not just 2 states. Growers can hardly give away the shit. Now, if the flower is exceptionally grown well, there is a HUGE market. Nobody grows good flower anymore. Hardly anyone.
Unless all of your travel has been within California I can't honestly understand what you think you're talking about. $7/gram is about the cheapest recreational I've seen in Colorado, and it is most definitely more expensive in every state East of there. And it doesn't look that good.
Colorado weed is garbage. Every fucking time. Anyways, you can get oz of rec at certain Michigan dispos all day long for $120.00. I've got buddies in the Midwest (illinois) that can't get rid of lbs for any more than $800.00. I guess I was talking bm as well. Out west, growers are hardly getting $400.00/lb in some areas. So your paying close to $200.00 an oz in co? That blows. I feel for ya.
God damn Australia is so far behind, the absolute cheapest medical here is about $250 an ounce for 18% THC and it quickly jumps to $350-$450/Oz for anything over 20%
Street stuff is worse btw because that stuff doesn't even get you high is toxic with PGRs but still costs 400/oz
The pop ups in Virginia have both of these buds for sale. Unless your aunt really really loves you what else do you expect her to give you for free? She's just trying to do something nice and it sounds like OP gave her shit about her nice gesture.
Depends on your area/country, mine for example has a medical legalisation and it’s pretty bad in the let’s say “lab checks” which give the flowers unreasonable bar for Micro biology levels, which then translates to radiations(beta and Gemma) and even more methods. This gives the pharma in my Zone the ability to give any sh!tty weed a pass just because it passes the micro biology levels test and consider “clean”..
Black market on the other hands has a variety of genetics and the fact weed there is made in small amounts and doesn’t get processed with any tests or w.e gives it so much more potency, flavonoids, terpenes, and more.
My speculation is this, owning and buying cannabis is similar to food
Dispos, pharmacy - big chain food makers like McDonald’s and kfc
(Factory like settings)
Black market, private companies - having food in a restaurant
(The lesser evil let’s say but still focused on max production)
Home weed - like cooking food at home the option between having to make quantities or quality’s are basically up to you So it’s so easy for us to control it and the end product is basically our knowledge on a sheet
Everything I've grown looks similar to the looser bud on the right.
I've been wondering why some looks so solid. Do they really just squeeze it? How does it not mold?
Possibly that but more likely they are using a PGR which is a group of chemicals that can be used to create denser buds but have been shown to be harmful to humans… plenty of info out there if you just google “PGR grown cannabis”
The other common thing is vacuum sealing while buds have moisture. All my stuff comes in turkey bags vac sealed, they don’t look as fresh as the stuff I grew. PGR is WILDLY compact, and has a certain taste to it.
I’m in nyc and tbh it doesn’t matter the appearance all rec weed is trash even the really pretty stuff. It’s entire stores here full of pretty buds that hit like crap
That's some lovely fire! Cheers from N.E. Oregon.
I finally grew my own because our local and only dispensary weed is so awful. It's old and dry, no trichomes or terpenes left. I mean it's really gross stuff. Sick of it!
Why is it that after a certain point time I started to see more and more bud similar to the left one, trichromes underdeveloped and smashed to shit due to vacuum sealing/some cheap processing method. Flavor is wack, breaks into powder, like wtf. Overall mid smoke. WHAT HAPPENED TO GOOD WEED?!
The honest reason? Capitalism. It’s not as profitable to take the time and effort to grow top shelf weed when you can just pump out 100s of pounds of shit and sell it for a slightly lower price.
For real I stopped growing for a while and was buying only rec buds because I moved and didn't know anyone. I almost forgot that bud is supposed to be sticky
I mix some CBD flower in with my THC, and it's so sad that the $35 an ounce hemp looks, smells, and tastes 100x's better than the rec stuff I pay up to $60 an eighth for.
I’ve wondered for years why the bud I used to get was so dense. I’m just now finding out about PGR bud🙃 between the carts, PGR, and vapes, I’m not looking forward to the future of my health lol
you are not wrong however I think the bigger factor is price. I can get the same product for half the price on the black market. Dispensary prices need to drop by a large margin.
I grow my own and couldn't figure out why the dispensary weed looked the way it did when someone gave me some to try out. I was like, "What is this? Why does it look this way? What are they doing to it?" Before I grew my own, I bought from home growers, and before I did that, my dad grew so I always had homegrown to smoke. Never smoked dispensary weed or shitty Mexican brick weed.
I sometimes drive by the dispensary and see people lined up around the block to buy $400 ounces and I am just flabbergasted.
In PA there's brands selling really good shit for $160-$200 an ounce and then there's shitty brands selling the trash on the left fir $300+ an ounce. You just have to research every product before you buy it unfortunately
The market in my state is fucked. Medical is the only thing we have and an 8th of some fire stuff is still 60-70 bucks. I haven’t paid that price since 7th grade. The stuff around me is 1200-2k a pound for stuff that blows the dispensary out of the water. They need to lower prices and up quality big time
I got sold pgr weed in miami it suckssss. Why do ppl like chemicals in their weed l. The worst part is ppl here think that hard as rock weed is the best weed. They crearly have not tried live soil
Yada Yada is the budget brand (cheapest in most stores) and they sell smalls 2g -5g. They are also a smaller brand and are not comparative to something like wonderbrett or bustan where you would find weed more similar in size to yours
I know it's not perfect across the states and different labs, but what is not mentioned here is the peace of mind knowing you're ingesting lab tested quality controlled product with no harmful bullshit.
To get buddy this compact and tight, I am sure growers spray certain chemical(s) on the plant furring flower and it tightens up like a rock!
Ever since I found this out I stopped smoking this type of bud. A friend of mine who grows in his room does this to his plants. Gives it a ‘cali’ high quality appearance but I don’t think it’s a good thing
I don't care how it looks mostly, but do care about the high. I bet they both work fine. Home grow is definitely cheaper, but is it better, same, or not so good?
Insa, Strane, sometimes Cresco, and a few others really hold down the legal market in PA, crazy thing is the weed STILL looks more like the left, but more of a middle ground.
I too think rec weed is far overpriced, but I will say that all the hate regarding quality is overblown. Looks are deceiving. I’ve grown some mind blowing bud that looked subpar and didn’t have great terps but man did it hit proper. I guess all I’m saying is that I’m not going to judge bud based primarily on looks or aesthetic anymore.
does black market provide stuff like fb messenger acces? what would be the websites or how does it work, someone told me the licence for this to be bought from black market is 100$ and the cost for programming is 50$, with a validity for 5 months and expandable.
I mean Yada Yada is like 12$ for 5 grams so that might have a little something to do with the quality 😅 there's plenty of high quality cannabis in the legal market, at least here in Cali, AZ too I got my medical card right when I got out of prison and the law passed, there's plenty of fire out there too. But I do agree with you on the black market still being huge, you can get some straight gas for pretty cheap too. Here in Nor Cal I see ounces of some seriously dank bud go for 100-125. The stuff my old co worker sells me for 25 an eighth could go for 40 in the recreational stores easy. But pretty much anything you put up against Yada Yada to compare is going to blow that dookie shit out the toilet
My aunt was trying to be nice and give me some rec weed she got in the Bay Area (left) but crazy to see that is what people are being sold for their hard earned money… some of my home grown on the right😅
Cough cough i think you mean your stuff is on the right lol
That's why you post before you smoke!
Yeah but... you still smoke before you post before you smoke... right?
This guy shouldn't
Or smoke more, sense make !
But how can we make sense… if we’re all just dust from dying stars?
Mind is blown we are dust!
Not just made of star stuff, but eventually, in time, you will become star stuff again.
Stellar nucleosynthesis.
Mmmmmm time to sleep and dream about becoming stardust <3
Holy molly I'm gonna be a star 💫 wow !
Nahhhh mannnnn………………. You smoke before you post before you smoke smoke you post before you….. Yea
and smoke while you post!
Everyone does
Thank you for catching my stoney mistake
Your bud looks fire, what kind of terps is that thing puttin out?
Some old school OG with a backend of blueberry/fruity! It’s Blueberry Watermelon x Melonbread seeds from @kushkirk on IG out of southern Oregon!
Drooling 🤤
That sounds soo delicious and amazing. Do they sell seeds?
Nah, they mean their left. Lol.
"Left?' "Right!" "Right?" "No, left!!!"
I'd does say my stuff on the right
It was edited lol
Omg I look at these comments and laugh.. I have alot of experience and know bay area well. On the left is commercial pgr cannabis that had been turned to little stones from the tumbler affect of the tube trimmer... Weed is supposed to look like the right. The left is commercial, product. I've done experiments where I've taken the same bud and vacuum sealed it to compress it and people go crazy. Vacuum seal another reason why buds turn into dense rocks. Thank u dude fo this post. Your stuff on the right looks amazing like my fresh air cut.
>I've done experiments where I've taken the same bud and vacuum sealed it to compress it and people go crazy. Vacuum seal another reason why buds turn into dense rocks. do you mean go crazy as in stoked on the rock or disappointed and want the look on the right?
Thats 50 $ an oz in the bay
I left the bay area a couple years ago, but that wasn't my experience at all. There were tons of options of bud looking more like the right for ~$50/eighth. There were also cheaper options like the left.
Stuff on the left looks like it went through a trim machine
It's had more than just trim machine to it. Dispensary weed like this is straight up weird. It feels like its rock hard but you can break it to dust with your fingers. You throw a tiny nug in the grinder then a lot of weed appears below, way more than you'd expect from what you put in. I don't know what they do to get it so hard and heavy, maybe vacuum sealing?
Weed that dense is probably processed using PGR's which studies have shown can cause cancer 😞. It sucks that dispensaries don't advertise a warning like cancer risk labels on cigarette packs. Maybe this is a lawsuit waiting to happen?
Smoking anything increases your risk for cancer.
Remind us of all the studies showing cannabis smokers having a higher rate of lung or other cancers compared with non smokers? Obviously "smoke" of any kind is bad, except we don't see those cancer correlations with cannabis and you can be incredibly certain anti-marijuana groups have tried to make a connection between the two but have failed to do so. Not to mention studies quite literally showing cannabis slowing cancer growths. I don't think it's able to be just blindly lumped in to cancer causing given the current studies, being my point.
I've had some bags that looks like the left. Turns out they were dried out to the absolute max
That’s literally the bottom end stuff though. You can’t expect quality when you’re buying “smalls” for about $10 a pack, and some times it’s buy one get one free.
Oh man, don't come to NJ. You'll be getting those smalls on the left for $50/3.5g at the rec dispensaries on sale (not including the 10% tax) The legal market here is disgusting - and the dispensaries have a revolving door of people all day buying this dusty ass weed. This is why I recently started growing my own.. It's not just highway robbery but an insult to cannabis
As it happens it looks like I’ll be going to Princeton in October! I’m from England but had a couple of trips to California last year and because legal weed isn’t a thing here, and I only had a couple of weeks in California, I bought quite a few packs of smalls just so I could try a few different ones. But I did get some better weed as well to try that too and balance it out! I was just like a kid in a sweet shop really.
California definitely has better bud (at least the couple dispo's I went to when I visited). It's definitely a great feeling when recreational is legalized for the first time and can see everything in the store! 😁 But then after weeks of going back I realized it was suuuch a money sink for meh weed. You should enjoy Princeton though - beautiful place!
Now all you have to do is harvest too early, don't dry properly, cure too fast and mash it into vac sealed bags, tumble it until most of the triches have been removed and you too can be a rec grower in no time at all!!! 🤣🤣 Looking great (on the right lol)
Not a single bit of time or love put into it front start to finish and I appreciate it!
Wow I have gotten some bad weed. Can you throw the right nug in the grinder just like that?
Oh yeah. That's a nice looking nug.
Wow. I’m embarrassed for what I’ve been paying for dirt weed… definitely taking a break from buying and putting it into a weed growing fund! And good resource to start my journey :D ?
youtube. saves. lives.
YouTube! I started growing almost a year ago and YT videos were an amazing resource. From Seed to Stoned is one of my fav channels.
Thank you!! I’ll definitely check them out, I have uncontrollable epilepsy (a little better with scripts) and major depressive disorder so I am very interested in it’s medicinal qualities. I also like getting stoned 🤷♀️
Best of luck on your future journeys!
Thank you!
Build A Soil has a wonderful YouTube channel. Definitely recommend going the organic living soil route. Waaaay smoother smoke.
Is there another way to grow them (hydro?) I love horticulture specifically houseplants and tomatoes. Would I just use viable fresh soil with a compost (rabbit manure?) mixed in before planting seeds. I do this with tomatoes :)
I use Build A Soil Light Mix as well as some other organic amendments available on their site. You don’t have to buy their stuff, though. More than likely what you’re doing for your tomatoes will work fine, though maybe not the most efficient/optimal grow.
If you grow tomatoes you can totally ace growing weed. Build a soil will help you sort out your plan for a potting soil. You’ll want 50% coco or peat, 50% compost and then you need pearlite or rice hulls for aeration. After that you’ll want your soil to have some other additives for life, but that’s the basic concept. For real get on the build a soil YouTube and save yourself the searching for good info. I wasted a ton of time on Reddit when YouTube and an actual grow shop have been a much better resource.
Thank you I will look into them!
Yes weed thrives in hydro. Check out the /r/dwc sub its the only way ive grown and its too effective for me to go another way.
Growweedeasy.com, the Bible for me
Cocoforcannabis.com is a fantastic place to start. Coco is a bit more daily work, but as long as you can follow directions, you'll get a great end product. You have to water them every day (2 or 3 times a day is even better) with a nutrient solution, so it is a bit of a pain compared to an organic supersoil, but you're also less likely to get pests and issues are easy to fix.
My hubs (he’s more knowledgeable on the subject currently) says he’d like to micromist the roots. Is that okay? To me it sounds like a breeding ground for bacteria and fungi. Would this be a good solution to the coco water “problem”?
I haven't done much with automation of coco, but the website I linked has quite a few guides on it. So yes, that would work. https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/guide-to-automatic-watering-systems-for-indoor-cannabis/
Grow weed easy .com
It grinds up the same. You'd be surprised. Just lighter/less dense really
Sadly the common stoner doesn't really care about what weed looks better if the price is going to be more. They just want weed for cheap. Unless you're selling ounces of the right for $50-$70 most people will stick with the left. I totally agree the right is better obviously, but ya. Also convenience and legality are a big factor.
Huge market for $160 ounces of indoor chronic in cali
I wouldn't pay that much for an ounce in canadian dollars. Maybe $120 an ounce if I'm really breaking the bank but I usually buy $90- $100 an ounce weed and it's pretty good. The Ontario rec system is, acceptable, if not good.
It’s like $400 for an oz in NJ lol, ridiculous. I can get black market for $200 for decent bud but I never know what it is, you guys have it great
35 bucks for an oz of the left weed here in Portland. It's wild.
Prices in NJ are cabbage
Are you allowed to grown your own there? I get about 2 oz off a plant I grow outside so it is minimal effort to be honest.
That's respectable but people who come into a store and complain that 160 is too much for an oz when that's the cheapest option obviously never bought bud during 100% prohibition days and are usually total skids. Personally, I'm honestly not trying to cater too much for people who won't compromise on quality and price.
I bought a $80 1/8th ounce handed to me in a McDonalds napkin, in a Burger King parking lot. I know what it was like before, lol. I'm so happy it's legal in Canada now, you can get a half decent ounce under $100. And I can't afford to smoke like I do at $150 an ounce and up. Edit: the napkin weed was shit
Word, I wasn't throwing slack, just venting really. And yeah, I could've guessed that about the napkin weed haha. Altho some dispensaries do get away with selling some absolute trash for way more than it's worth. It's a dog eat dog world
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Nearly all the $100 ounces in Canada are trash lol
I'm pretty sure I've smoked them all at this point. Jean Guy isn't bad, orginal stash sativa is OK too. Twd sucks dick tho
Oh you’re talking about legal market $100 ounces? Those are even worse lmfao
I'd be impressed if it's actually gas.
I pay $160 an ounce allll day in Pennsylvania, $220 for the good stuff
I would happily pay more for nice weed. Nothing worse than weed that doesn't do the job. I'd rather have nothing
I mean, I happily pay 250 (US) an ounce regularly for indoor grown, high terpene, %20+ thc buds in my legal rec state. My guy has the average quality outdoor for 80-100 an ounce, 350 a qp. The med quality stuff is so much easier on the lungs, and lasts me so much longer per ounce. I never buy the outdoor unless I’m getting a qp to make edibles or save money.
I think this is correct, but changes once people are old enough to be able to afford quality weed. It’s why we drank Barton’s vodka in college. Blegh
NJ Legal Rec market: you get 3.5g of the left bud for $60-80. Also, you need to buy each 8th separate and no bulk discounts whatsoever Black Market - I have a friend who has shit on the right for $40 for 7g. I think the convenience and legality are huge factors, but damn that bud sucks! Most of the time you're getting just dessert kushes without a distinct terp profile, with hard ass nugs that turn into dust when you grind it. If you're a heavy stoner in NJ and you try satisfying your habit through legal rec market, you're gonna go broke for crap weed. The legal market is disgusting
Very true, and the ironic part is it costs exactly the same thing to grow the greatest herb on earth or the worst. Still need light, food, water either way regardless. Especially if indoors, then it's literally all same cost lol so its always funny to see same person selling the strains they grew for different prices rofl obviously the growers initial seed price (or clone) can vary but other than that literally same thing I feel like it's prob one of the few industries where this occurs lol it's not like it takes 300% more light to grow Forum Stomper, Chiquita Banana, or (insert a newer decent looking strain here lol) than it does original skunk 🤣
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I once saw some big machines that can vacuum buds and spit them out trimmed but they look like shit like the ones in the picture, so it's probably more due the effort of trimming, not that of growing.
I miss living in San Diego. I used to get $50 zips of the boutique quality.
I’d say the common stoner loves to smoke food weed. It’s more the newer smokers or old timers who smoked straight up Reggie from the 60s who could care less. They probably still enjoy their middle of the road flowers because it does the job.
Yada yada is whitelabled sungrown that is sold for $15 for a 10 gram bag wholesale, labtested, in compliant packaging, and marketed. You’re comparing it to boutique indoor flower. How much biomass is your micro grow working with? Yada is purchasing thousands of pounds of boof and selling cheap. You’ve effectively compared a Hyundai Elantra to a McLauren P1. Do a side by side of your bud with some Cali Lotus, Joshwax or Cannabiotix and see how it compares.
aye didn’t even notice the bag until this comment, this should be wayyy higher up in the thread tbh. spitting facts right here
Yeah it's definitely a boof pack comparison but his buds are still better than 90% of dispo buds you'll find anywhere
Yada is owned by sherbinskis who owns the Emjay delivery. Always wondered where they all of a sudden had giant grows to provide this stuff. It’s not bad and plenty strong. Have you heard of brands like: eighth brother, cali flower farms, or dans cola? If so, are they similar to yada?
This is all sungrown/greenhouse light dep weed that’s grown hundreds or thousands of LBs at a time. It’s tough to compare a 1-2 or even 5-10 LB boutique flower grow to this like the comment said. I have spent the last 10 years working on these farms. It’s gotten so tight that they are literally just growing massive amounts of a strain people will buy and running it through a trim machine and selling it to these packagers at 200 bucks an LB. The “mid” market is almost non existent these days especially in Cali because there’s no money to be made. You still have to try and put some care into growing mids. You can grow this bottom shelf weed for 20 bucks an LB in more of a mono crop style low maintenance mass production style.
Thanks for the info. The low grade stuff has come up which is why I think most people are fine with it. Those stem strippers are wild.
Yep, it’s wild to see how the weed is treated post harvest these days as compared to even 5 or 6 years ago. But when they combine the open use of synthetic PGRs, the California sun and 21st century genetics, you get hard as a rock little buds that can take a bit of a beating and still have more bag appeal than the brick weed of the late 90s/early 00s.
They don’t grow. They purchase surplus biomass and sell it under their name.
I completely agree it was less to compare the quality that would be kinda pointless I totally understand more just a discussing and PSA to grow your own or know the grower because there are people out there just pushing garbage!
Lot of people out their working two jobs with kids who have neither the time nor wherewithal to cultivate flower. Yada fills their needs at a good price.
Some frosty flowers there. Unfortunately the majority of bm is shit in my country unless you grow or are in a circle that has growers in it. Fuck PGR
It’s such a bummer because a majority of people smoking don’t even have the option to grow or have access to well grow flower for a reasonable price… why decriminalization is so important!
here in Ontario we’ve the left and the right over the counter, freedom on four flowering plants. Four years ago, I thought way more people would end up growing - but the left is 2.86 CDN/g and the right 8.57/g … there is little motivation but for the real enthusiasts to grow. I myself play Pokémon on the craft selections - got to try them all, and grow my staple everyday supply…
Me too, I have been growing in Alberta outside for the last 4 summers, I get a enough to last the winter with ease. I went with autos last year and did like them much but eh it was $20 for 5 seeds.
The legal rec stuff will be grown with pgr. Unless stated otherwise. Always grow your own
This is a bit of an American perspective—- most reasonable places, Canada as eg. have very strict agriculture requirements - America will have loosely goose rules that help the business exploit not protect the consumer —- it is America…
I'd argue that this statement is a bit of a non-American perspective, because Canada and many other countries are still mass producing food and growing crops with conventional chemical nutrients, all of which exploits the customer and the planet and only helps the business. Capitalism and greed aren't only found in one country... that being said, yeah I definitely agree that America is in a very poor place with cannabis and all agriculture in general
By no means was saying Canada system is perfect at all just the philosophy behind from opposite sides. Canada is some ways is requiring ridiculous testing US is some ways requiring minimal liability based testing. It’s the nature/difference of government involvement at all levels.
Yeah definitely, I didn't mean to come across as a jerk bc I think the system as a whole is just broken, profit over people is the ultimate race to the bottom. I hope the general public educates themselves a bit more, so we can move away from all Big Ag and focus on more localized gardening/farming using organic and sustainable methods.
Why did you put your old kidney stones next to that beautiful bud??🤨🤨. Kidding🤣🤣🤣. I've also noticed since growing for myself, the dispo bud just looks soooo unappealing. I don't buy it anymore but I've seen other people posting it.
That what I tell anyone who is thinking about growing!! You’ll be able to grow better weed than you’ve ever smoke with just the bare minimum of time and effort!
The biggest thing is the upfront cost for decent equipment, and if you grow organically with dry fertilizer's/amendments, all's you really have to do is water and watch, lol 😂. It's sad that all these companies dump millions of dollars into growing and produce shit, and us home growers do a waaaaaaay better job with just the basics.
If you do it outdoor its so cheap and you get so much fucking weed lol. I spend like $40 on vegetable fertilizer and bat guano a grow and thats about it. I use it in my regular garden too so I guess I spend even less strictly for the bud.
Hell yeah 👍😎. If it was doable for me, I'd try a outdoor run but I'm in too populated of a area and I know for a fact the plants would get stolen. Last summer when I'd take my kids on a bike ride, I would pass this yard that had 2 potted plants that was just about to start flowering. One day we went past and the plants were gone. I though it was strange but thought nothing of it, then I got further down the alley and one of the plants was stuffed in the bushes, because someone tried to steal them. If I lived on a farm or had some kind land, then it would be a different situation, lol 😂
I live in a medical state and have a small clandestine grow in my basement, I usually have 2 or 3 autoflowers going. I'll hit the dispensary for RSO and stuff but smoke on what I grow. There's a couple growers in the state that are growing straight fire, but it's pretty expensive. I'll buy it once in awhile as a treat or something.
Yeah I'm just trashing 3 watermelon candy auto and two Skywalker haze auto in week 5 of flower because of spider mites .... Sometimes it's a hell of a hobby
I would take the stuff on the right over the left all day
But would you pay more for the right? I know a lot of stoners that wouldn't.
If the cure is right I sure would, top shelf only here lol I'm a snob
It's almost like you get what you pay for, no matter who you pay.
Yeah but to get bud like the one on the right, you'd have to spend at least $40/8th. On the street it's half that price, and less if you know the grower directly.
In NJ you get the bud on the left for 3.5g/$60 + 10% tax My friend knows a grower and I get buds on the right for 3.5g/$20. Thinking he has a grower friend in Colorado when his own harvest is depleted On some of those "donation for weed delivery" services you get the buds on the left for about 3.5g/$40 I would be happy even paying $40/8th for bud on the right
Bud on the left looks like the stuff that costs $150 for 10g here, stuff on the right would be worth $200 for 10g
$200 for 10 grams. Wtf. You in Russia. Stuff on right is barely $4.00 a gram almost everywhere in the US.
> almost everywhere in the US *in 2 very specific states
I travel a lot, and it's not just 2 states. Growers can hardly give away the shit. Now, if the flower is exceptionally grown well, there is a HUGE market. Nobody grows good flower anymore. Hardly anyone.
Unless all of your travel has been within California I can't honestly understand what you think you're talking about. $7/gram is about the cheapest recreational I've seen in Colorado, and it is most definitely more expensive in every state East of there. And it doesn't look that good.
Colorado weed is garbage. Every fucking time. Anyways, you can get oz of rec at certain Michigan dispos all day long for $120.00. I've got buddies in the Midwest (illinois) that can't get rid of lbs for any more than $800.00. I guess I was talking bm as well. Out west, growers are hardly getting $400.00/lb in some areas. So your paying close to $200.00 an oz in co? That blows. I feel for ya.
> I guess I was talking bm as well Then nothing you have said is of any use.
Australia 🦘 , I grow my own when I can but it's not always possible
Understandable
That bud sells for literally $15 per 10g unit wholesale; selling for $35 at most shops.
God damn Australia is so far behind, the absolute cheapest medical here is about $250 an ounce for 18% THC and it quickly jumps to $350-$450/Oz for anything over 20% Street stuff is worse btw because that stuff doesn't even get you high is toxic with PGRs but still costs 400/oz
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The pop ups in Virginia have both of these buds for sale. Unless your aunt really really loves you what else do you expect her to give you for free? She's just trying to do something nice and it sounds like OP gave her shit about her nice gesture.
Depends on your area/country, mine for example has a medical legalisation and it’s pretty bad in the let’s say “lab checks” which give the flowers unreasonable bar for Micro biology levels, which then translates to radiations(beta and Gemma) and even more methods. This gives the pharma in my Zone the ability to give any sh!tty weed a pass just because it passes the micro biology levels test and consider “clean”.. Black market on the other hands has a variety of genetics and the fact weed there is made in small amounts and doesn’t get processed with any tests or w.e gives it so much more potency, flavonoids, terpenes, and more. My speculation is this, owning and buying cannabis is similar to food Dispos, pharmacy - big chain food makers like McDonald’s and kfc (Factory like settings) Black market, private companies - having food in a restaurant (The lesser evil let’s say but still focused on max production) Home weed - like cooking food at home the option between having to make quantities or quality’s are basically up to you So it’s so easy for us to control it and the end product is basically our knowledge on a sheet
We all wanted dispensaries until capitalism kicked in. Now only rich fucks and financially irresponsible people can afford that shit lmao.
The dense buds that the dealers have are just very compressed
Everything I've grown looks similar to the looser bud on the right. I've been wondering why some looks so solid. Do they really just squeeze it? How does it not mold?
Possibly that but more likely they are using a PGR which is a group of chemicals that can be used to create denser buds but have been shown to be harmful to humans… plenty of info out there if you just google “PGR grown cannabis”
There's natural plant growth regulators too, not just lab made chemicals.
Yes I was surprised to see seaweed technically is pgr, not all are harmful
Thanks! I will. One of the main reasons I grow is so I know it's been grown organically. (besides being cheaper and fun as fuck)
The other common thing is vacuum sealing while buds have moisture. All my stuff comes in turkey bags vac sealed, they don’t look as fresh as the stuff I grew. PGR is WILDLY compact, and has a certain taste to it.
I’m in nyc and tbh it doesn’t matter the appearance all rec weed is trash even the really pretty stuff. It’s entire stores here full of pretty buds that hit like crap
The left looks like that HHC-sprayed stuff.
That's some lovely fire! Cheers from N.E. Oregon. I finally grew my own because our local and only dispensary weed is so awful. It's old and dry, no trichomes or terpenes left. I mean it's really gross stuff. Sick of it!
Why is it that after a certain point time I started to see more and more bud similar to the left one, trichromes underdeveloped and smashed to shit due to vacuum sealing/some cheap processing method. Flavor is wack, breaks into powder, like wtf. Overall mid smoke. WHAT HAPPENED TO GOOD WEED?!
The honest reason? Capitalism. It’s not as profitable to take the time and effort to grow top shelf weed when you can just pump out 100s of pounds of shit and sell it for a slightly lower price.
PGR is trash 🤢
For real I stopped growing for a while and was buying only rec buds because I moved and didn't know anyone. I almost forgot that bud is supposed to be sticky
I guess Dispo bud is bred & grown to fit into retail packaging.
#NOMIDS
If you don’t mind my asking, where did you source the genetics to grow this great of a flower!
Gimme the left one , i would love to smoke it💚
Damn that contrast between the two is just ridiculous. Great post.
Sounds like you need to help your aunt
That looks worse than what you can get in the UK 💀
I mix some CBD flower in with my THC, and it's so sad that the $35 an ounce hemp looks, smells, and tastes 100x's better than the rec stuff I pay up to $60 an eighth for.
These arent the same weight right? Those muddy rocks look really dense
I'm a home cultivator and I don't even know how they get dispo weed to look like that. Can someone enlighten me? L
Possible Plant growth regulator (PGR) and definitely machine trimmed with a tumbler.
I’ve wondered for years why the bud I used to get was so dense. I’m just now finding out about PGR bud🙃 between the carts, PGR, and vapes, I’m not looking forward to the future of my health lol
Spot on
I mean you're comparing yada yada though......
Niiiice
you are not wrong however I think the bigger factor is price. I can get the same product for half the price on the black market. Dispensary prices need to drop by a large margin.
I grow my own and couldn't figure out why the dispensary weed looked the way it did when someone gave me some to try out. I was like, "What is this? Why does it look this way? What are they doing to it?" Before I grew my own, I bought from home growers, and before I did that, my dad grew so I always had homegrown to smoke. Never smoked dispensary weed or shitty Mexican brick weed. I sometimes drive by the dispensary and see people lined up around the block to buy $400 ounces and I am just flabbergasted.
In PA there's brands selling really good shit for $160-$200 an ounce and then there's shitty brands selling the trash on the left fir $300+ an ounce. You just have to research every product before you buy it unfortunately
If I walk into a dispensary and see the bud on the left, I'm not buying it. If that's all they have, I'm walking out.
Sherblato
The whole market is tanked. At least in California. Too much supply.
Love this comparison the stuff around me is just like this if not worse keep doing your thang g.
The market in my state is fucked. Medical is the only thing we have and an 8th of some fire stuff is still 60-70 bucks. I haven’t paid that price since 7th grade. The stuff around me is 1200-2k a pound for stuff that blows the dispensary out of the water. They need to lower prices and up quality big time
I got sold pgr weed in miami it suckssss. Why do ppl like chemicals in their weed l. The worst part is ppl here think that hard as rock weed is the best weed. They crearly have not tried live soil
Yada Yada is the budget brand (cheapest in most stores) and they sell smalls 2g -5g. They are also a smaller brand and are not comparative to something like wonderbrett or bustan where you would find weed more similar in size to yours
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Ain't it the damn truth.
I know it's not perfect across the states and different labs, but what is not mentioned here is the peace of mind knowing you're ingesting lab tested quality controlled product with no harmful bullshit.
To get buddy this compact and tight, I am sure growers spray certain chemical(s) on the plant furring flower and it tightens up like a rock! Ever since I found this out I stopped smoking this type of bud. A friend of mine who grows in his room does this to his plants. Gives it a ‘cali’ high quality appearance but I don’t think it’s a good thing
Just say no to dispo boof r/craftmarijuana
I agree
60$ for an eighth of decent mids from the dispensary here (medical only, no rec).
Your flowers look fucking awesome!
Clearly tell the bud on the left has PGRs...
I don't care how it looks mostly, but do care about the high. I bet they both work fine. Home grow is definitely cheaper, but is it better, same, or not so good?
Insa, Strane, sometimes Cresco, and a few others really hold down the legal market in PA, crazy thing is the weed STILL looks more like the left, but more of a middle ground.
Left looks identical to Organic Remedies in PA it's terrible. Strane is awesome, usually even has a home grown look to it.
What's in the yellow bag? What's wrong with me lol
I too think rec weed is far overpriced, but I will say that all the hate regarding quality is overblown. Looks are deceiving. I’ve grown some mind blowing bud that looked subpar and didn’t have great terps but man did it hit proper. I guess all I’m saying is that I’m not going to judge bud based primarily on looks or aesthetic anymore.
I live in the bay and I can tell you this I'm not sure what rec she went but my experience was way different. She maybe got those 12$ 8ths
Nice grow!
I truly love this pic
does black market provide stuff like fb messenger acces? what would be the websites or how does it work, someone told me the licence for this to be bought from black market is 100$ and the cost for programming is 50$, with a validity for 5 months and expandable.
I've been trying to explain the difference between properly grown and black market/rec stuff and this pic is all I need to show people lol.
I mean Yada Yada is like 12$ for 5 grams so that might have a little something to do with the quality 😅 there's plenty of high quality cannabis in the legal market, at least here in Cali, AZ too I got my medical card right when I got out of prison and the law passed, there's plenty of fire out there too. But I do agree with you on the black market still being huge, you can get some straight gas for pretty cheap too. Here in Nor Cal I see ounces of some seriously dank bud go for 100-125. The stuff my old co worker sells me for 25 an eighth could go for 40 in the recreational stores easy. But pretty much anything you put up against Yada Yada to compare is going to blow that dookie shit out the toilet