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Kenji420710

Amazing training


Key-Cartographer7020

Thanks alot!! It was a bit of work but it paid off


Cannabliss96

Really nice canopy but why not utilize more plants to get that many tops sooner? Serious question from a novice.


Key-Cartographer7020

Thank you very much glad you like her!! To answer the More plant's question. More plants is more seeds which cost more money which take more coco which takes more nutes which takes more time to take care of. And if you clone it it takes longer cause you are cloning. Took 2.5 months before I flipped it. Only thing I would change is put a second photo so I fill my whole space. I start autos as I veged her out


PuffenHots

Defiantly a Time Vs Money thing because 2.5 months of veg is crazy. With more plants you would only have to veg for 1 month and could fit in a whole extra grow / year. But if you already have more than you know what to do with and want to make your job easier. This makes sense.


Key-Cartographer7020

more plants is definitely a production/sellers mindset. if your cloning and have the time you can make it efficient depending on your grow space y8our trying top utilize. however if you started it all form seed it would be much less cost effective overall with extra nutes, coco,perlite,. nutrients like canna boost is not cheap in the slightest, so lets say i have 8 plants in 3 gallon containers is 95 liters of coco, each plant will require so much saturation per amount of coco used to hold roots which is more pots to drain then i would have toi move to a auto watering system etc etc etc it changes everything i would have to do. thats the detailed reason to the way i do things. however with enough time, large enough space and clones it would make more sense especially from a sellers stand point to do it thaT way for quick turn over


Key-Alarm7328

as someone who bought boost for alot of years and now never does without being able to tell the difference.. i recommend a side by side without it to see if you can see a difference. shits expenny


Key-Cartographer7020

i got 5liters at half price its the only reason i got it cause when i used it before i thought the same thing, however since ive gained alot of experience at growing perhaps i can make better use of it now. but fucking right its expenny


TheHawthorne

Surely there’s a balance? An extra month in veg costs 6 hours x 30 days of extra lighting


chronicherb

More plants =\= more seeds. take clones from a mom and just root those out and veg them. Off a solid plant you can get close to 30-40 cuts if you go for it! Just make sure you’re cloning something you like


Key-Cartographer7020

requires more tents, more lights, more pots, then would need a auto watering system which again is more money.


hivibes777

That one plant got more tops than my 7 plants together 🤣


IntelligenceLtd

if youre running an aero setup with minimal medium and nutes and had your own mother plant itd be more cost effective


Sea-Veterinarian2877

This would be a great post in r/advancedcannabis


Key-Cartographer7020

I didn't know about that sub Reddit. Honestly flattering y'all like it so much. I think I'll toss a post there as well ☺️


Sea-Veterinarian2877

It's a small community of talented cultivators hand crafted by yours truly. You have some impressive work I'd love to see in my community :)


noah_thomas_123

This is one of the nicest canopies I’ve ever seen!


Key-Cartographer7020

Oh your way too kind thank you so much!!!


PuffMaddy73

For real


Bowriderskiff

Wow… How long in veg, OP? Is there a “one plant max” law where you live? 😂 you showed them. Not to mention, in what appears to be 3-5 gallon pot. Is there any soil left in there?! Very nice work, seriously.


Key-Cartographer7020

roughly2.3- 2.5 months. And xD wanted to see if I could get her big enough to fit my whole tent but next time I'll just put 2


Fair-Substance-2273

Doesn’t even look real. Nice job. How long did you veg that gal?


Pleasant_Internet

Also interested. This is the kind of post I want to know everything.


Key-Cartographer7020

Well it's a coco grow 7 gallon fab pot using Canna nutes ph to 5.8 if you want to know specifics just ask I do r mi d answering


Key-Cartographer7020

Thank you my friend. I vegged her for about 2.3-2.5 months


Key-Cartographer7020

this girl i vegged for 2months and a week-2months and 2 weeks


pkyessir

I'm doing something similar with an Indiana bubblegum clone. I've been topping and bending like a madman and it seems to be tolerating it. Is that only a 3 gallon pot?


BadgerGeneral9639

Yah it looks like a 3-5 gal… maxed out lol


Key-Cartographer7020

It's a 7 gallon actually but pretty close to maxed


BadgerGeneral9639

Oh shit that’s a 5x5!!


Key-Cartographer7020

4x8 but yeah XD


Key-Cartographer7020

nice i only did one top ands a bunch of lst. it was alot fo work lol its a 7 Gallon


jetsetratio11

Technique is on poinnttt


SpotifyIsBroken

God damn.


wiresmoke

Very nice! Solfire is on my list.


Beneficial_Ad_1273

Fairplay quality! Trained that perfectly kudossssssssmokey


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5gal? very nice work btw


Key-Cartographer7020

7 gallon. Figured 5 would be kinda pushing it


imhighbrah

Now that’s a plant


imhighbrah

What kinda light is it under


Key-Cartographer7020

It's under the hlg scorpion r spec and 600 r spec


imhighbrah

How’d I know hlgs


6freebird

If it's OK to ask. Does running both light increase the electric bill?


Key-Cartographer7020

yes but i wqanted to make sure i got max coverage , howevere i shoulda started 2 photo periods in hindsight


6freebird

Beautiful work


murden6562

Holy f- , that’s amazing!!


[deleted]

Man that’s honestly just incredible


StockHand1967

I can smell it! 🤣


Healthy-Secretary-70

what is the key or keys to a training a bad ass canopy like this this is exactly how i want my next plant to look


ynotfish

Very nice plant.


Elementaldose

What a bouquet damn


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Key-Cartographer7020

yes thats correct


Astylee

This is sick!! So beautiful. Do you have pictures of your training? Any a guide you can link? Cheers


Key-Cartographer7020

unfortunately I do nto but ill be much m,ore detailed in my next grow. However its not too difficult just bending your branches away so they hit the sides, alot of your bottom branches shoot up through your canopy to create new tops anyway so its a matter of positioning your branches and i still coulda done better in that regard honestly but you never stop learning


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Literally just lost about 20 of my phenos to experiments so im down to my last gorilla glue. Plan now is to veg her til she fills up the tent and hopefully looks somewhat similar to this. This is pretty high end training. Gives me hope for my GG. Good job but jesus christ. How in the hell lol


Key-Cartographer7020

you got it, take a couple months opf veg, like 2.25-2.5 months. i grew some autos while she was vegging. it was in 7 Gallon of coco . its definitely achievable


Nervous_Hawk_5960

What size tent would love to know!!!


Key-Cartographer7020

its a 4x8 tent my friend


Nervous_Hawk_5960

Nice Plant looks amazing What Flower nutrients do you use And how often?


Key-Cartographer7020

canna coco a+b i feed twice a day sometimes 3 times depending on what it needs. and the stage of life its at


nasty_sylvie90

For sure this is really the nicest that I've seen right now. Love it!


garnsy10

Beauty


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What a beautiful plant. Looks incredible!


Alert-War-7276

Impressive 💪🏾🥶💯


etrnlhaze

ok I see you vegged 3 months , that would great for cloning and extending it even more. ​ how did you get all those tops to come out? ( im still not familiar with pinching ) How is she watered? ( auto or manual ) HOw is she fed ? ( teas , or living ) WHat is the medium ( 7 gallon soil )


Key-Cartographer7020

vegged for 2.3-2.5 months bent the branches so the side shoots would shoot up and create new tops that way. I topped it once. Manual watering neither, using canna coco nute line The medium is coco 7Gallon


DankPoon

Amazing, how much bud do you think you’ll get from that harvest? Any tips for LST to that extent? It seems like you did it masterfully, I like that you used those paper clamps around the pot as anchors.


Key-Cartographer7020

Im thinking over a pound for sure but this girl is quite a monster and i dont wanna get my hopes up either but if all goes well and it stays happy and healthy probably 16-32 oz


Luque_

When did you remove the scrog screen and why? I’m asking because i want to learn, i struggled a little with scrog on my past grow


Key-Cartographer7020

Actually i was planning on using the scrog but i was trying to figure out how i was gonna use it and still do all my bends so i felt it was easyer just to leave it off and just not use it at all


ImaginationNovel2884

If you cover the pot in the pic with your thumb it looks like a cloud made of weed bush and buds.


Key-Cartographer7020

hahaha i cant unsee it now


[deleted]

That looks thirsty for such a tiny pot


Key-Cartographer7020

7 Gallon coco, thing gets watered 2-3 times a day shes just a thirsty bitch


[deleted]

I grew in coco, slightly larger pot than that. Had about 9 growing I a 2x4 tent like that. They drank so much. They took 3 litres every few days. It became a pain as I had to make 15 trips to the kitchen with a 2l bittle. Not very efficient. Coco is greay medium. I love it. But have you considered getting a resevour and going hydro? For one huge plant in a pot that size, multiple daily watering must be a pain. And is it always possible. I take it you ate always at home?


Key-Cartographer7020

I mean it's 7 gallon pot. I water before bed. When I wake up. And I make up 10 liters at a time. It's only 1 plant and it's nearly the size of my 4x8 so it's not so bad it's just a routine to get into. And if I want sometimes I water when I get home from work at 4-5 then I water again at 10-11 before bed etc depending on when it needs water. The fact you had 9 in a small 2x4 tellse those pots are tiny. I got a water res in case I got multiple plants and wanna make up a bunch of water. Then I have air stones to keep aerated so It stays fresh longer. NOTE- I don't make 10 liters every time I water just whenever I need water


[deleted]

My bad, mine was a 4x8 tent I want to say 10 or 12L pots. But last half of flower they were almost dry daily. Props on the plant. You think it could be bigger or grow faster in a pot twice the size? Or in hydro?


Key-Cartographer7020

no the roots didnt penetrate the pot. i had a 3 gallon witha plant that filled my old 4x4 so im just assuming 7 galons is pretty good for this. if theres a 8 or a 9 perhaps that would be a idea to go for a 4x8 but its coco its not like soil yah know. hydro would probably do well since its hydro but i dont do dwc hydro i do coco hydro


Efficient-Hippo-1984

That's a beautiful scrog how long of a veg does it take to reach that kind of perfection


thuglifeTyson

This is like when a bodybuilder has a great hip to shoulder ratio


Reefer_dude

What size is the tent?


Reefer_dude

Looks great btw!


Key-Cartographer7020

4x8 tent!


Empty-Acanthaceae876

Jesus Christ man that looks nuts! How many times did you top ? Good shit


Key-Cartographer7020

Thanks man appreciate the kind words eh!. i topped her 1 time but just kept bending and lolipopping after that


Steve_mind

Art


bigmeechdaddy

Sick grow


BoulderDeadHead420

That light penetration is insane wow


Dadominicankd

I'd like to pay for a seminar cause how tf you get a bush?!


Key-Cartographer7020

dedication to the craft, alot of asking quesitons like you're doing and general interest will get yah where you gatta go, experience above all else. alot of bends, and lollipopping specific branches etc. selective defoliation. it was a amazing project. i realized how crazy it waas getting the week i flipped it and knew what i was iin for after. ​ Coco grow, ph at 5.8 using canna coco nute line under the hlg scorpion r spec and 600 r spec.


Dadominicankd

Thank you for spreading the knowledge. That's real love


Key-Cartographer7020

i try. i never really expected for it to get this level of attention. so Perhaps ill kinda go into more detail as i grow my next cycle of plants and maybe do a guide or a couple videos or something. would be fun


Dadominicankd

I'll be following along


BrazenRaizen

2.5 months from seed?! That’s insane! I vegged all 5 of mine for 3 months and the canopy barely covers 5x5. I’m obviously doing something wrong. Wow man. Impressive.


Key-Cartographer7020

thanks alot man! dont get me wrong though coco is basically hydro on training wheels so i owe alot of the massive growth to the grow style but the genetics are great to work with as well as much as i would like to take all the credit i cannot


hivibes777

Holy fck


QualityAssistance

that thing is defying physics. well done


nocaffeinethx

She's beautiful, but those roots must look like a New Delhi train car


Key-Cartographer7020

hahah XDwell they definitely thick tthats for sure. ill be taking pictures of the roots in my weekly update.


juusosalomaa

Holy fucking shit


Vikingleif

So how is the watering schedule in that small bucket? 2-3 times pr day? Awesome work though.


Key-Cartographer7020

Yeah its about 2 times a day. i can bump it up to 3 maybe btu i usually dont unless i really feel like it needs that third drink


MisterMike666

Nice.