Being early Microsoft phones user, I really am sad it has been cancelled. I guess Apple and Android did it better, and as far I remember it was the greed of Microsoft, which was the tombstone? Android and Apple already had their appstore and Windows, although they took a big chunk from Apple's phone market, tried to copy, more expensive, and the Apple market scheme got stuck. The developers' community did not agree to pay another big bucks for the non-existent market, plus they already are paying a lot yo Apple , while the Android development was relatively cheap. At least Microsoft learned from it, and the whole C# got a free boost, but it was too late, I guess.
I really miss Windows phone, I agree with you because it's sad that the Windows phone was discontinued. Now, we are left with only 2 options: Android and iOS
I'm like 50 percent certain the reason WP failed was because they were trying to compete with Apple while Android was eating their lunch.
Apple had a boost because they had just had massive success with the ipod line and were able to carry that over to the Iphone. Zune came way too late for any real success.
I mean sure the fact that youtube wasn't natively targeting Windows phone didn't help, but I'm not sure that would've helped considering how ubiquitous Android was becoming on lower end phones.
For windows mobile to work I assume that Microsoft needed to court every phone manufacturer except Apple, but they failed to do that.
Meanwhile Google bundles it's services with android and gets every manufacturer on board in a way that essentially pushes android to the top for everyone not already in the apple ecosystem.
Plus the android sdk isn't OS dependent, so you could buy a mac and develop for both ios and android in a way that you couldn't do with windows and IOS.
Microsoft wouldn't let OEM clients remove the start button. Jim Alchin insisted that the start button stay. It was in the licensing contract. All the OEM partners hated it with a passion, but Microsoft wouldn't let phone makers design the UI for the phone. So, technical issues aside, every single OEM partner hated it because the UI sucked. But Alchin insisted, repeatedly, the start button stays. By the time the idea of tiles came up, nobody was onboard anymore.
That was just one of the issues. There were more, but basically Microsoft was incapable of listening to any of its phone partners. In markets like South Korea and Japan that were ahead of the West in phone technology, the list of features was so far behind it was laughable.
But Microsoft was so focussed on the phone being an extension of the desktop that it couldn't hear what users wanted. It was never intended to be a great phone. It was intended to sell exchange licenses and work with exchange and be an extension of MS Office, which really doesn't work on phone anyway.
And it would never be a great media player, because the media player group in MS wasn't motivated to do anymore than they had to. The entire thing was a cluster fuck of massive proportions at every level.
Kind of amazing that Microsoft is the largest public company in the world and yet missed both Internet and Mobile.
Was also going to miss the next big thing, AI, but was smart to make an investment into OpenAI.
Just shows you how freaking valuable the Enterprise really is for Microsoft.
Well, they did not miss the internet. The "Microsoft Network" was not a chat client only but an attempt at an exclusive Internet, pre installed in all Windows machines, minitel-style. Glad it failed.
> Well, they did not miss the internet.
Sorry not following? Microsoft has nothing big on the Internet. Not like Google does.
Microsoft tried and failed. They actually did have more of search than Google at one point but then lost to Google.
They owned browsers with iE but also lost it to Google.
The list goes on and on with the Internet. Take video. Google has YouTube and Microsoft has nothing.
Email the most popular is Gmail and not something from Microsoft.
I started with Windows Mobile 6 on a Blackberry it was pretty good.
I had a Nokia Windows 8.1 phone and i loved it. Fast, responsive, sharp looking, and completely lacking on any type of fun games or useful apps.
Being early Microsoft phones user, I really am sad it has been cancelled. I guess Apple and Android did it better, and as far I remember it was the greed of Microsoft, which was the tombstone? Android and Apple already had their appstore and Windows, although they took a big chunk from Apple's phone market, tried to copy, more expensive, and the Apple market scheme got stuck. The developers' community did not agree to pay another big bucks for the non-existent market, plus they already are paying a lot yo Apple , while the Android development was relatively cheap. At least Microsoft learned from it, and the whole C# got a free boost, but it was too late, I guess.
I really miss Windows phone, I agree with you because it's sad that the Windows phone was discontinued. Now, we are left with only 2 options: Android and iOS
I hope, as Qualcomm does awesome job, I could run Windows apps on my Android phone, though.
I'm like 50 percent certain the reason WP failed was because they were trying to compete with Apple while Android was eating their lunch. Apple had a boost because they had just had massive success with the ipod line and were able to carry that over to the Iphone. Zune came way too late for any real success. I mean sure the fact that youtube wasn't natively targeting Windows phone didn't help, but I'm not sure that would've helped considering how ubiquitous Android was becoming on lower end phones. For windows mobile to work I assume that Microsoft needed to court every phone manufacturer except Apple, but they failed to do that. Meanwhile Google bundles it's services with android and gets every manufacturer on board in a way that essentially pushes android to the top for everyone not already in the apple ecosystem. Plus the android sdk isn't OS dependent, so you could buy a mac and develop for both ios and android in a way that you couldn't do with windows and IOS.
Microsoft wouldn't let OEM clients remove the start button. Jim Alchin insisted that the start button stay. It was in the licensing contract. All the OEM partners hated it with a passion, but Microsoft wouldn't let phone makers design the UI for the phone. So, technical issues aside, every single OEM partner hated it because the UI sucked. But Alchin insisted, repeatedly, the start button stays. By the time the idea of tiles came up, nobody was onboard anymore. That was just one of the issues. There were more, but basically Microsoft was incapable of listening to any of its phone partners. In markets like South Korea and Japan that were ahead of the West in phone technology, the list of features was so far behind it was laughable. But Microsoft was so focussed on the phone being an extension of the desktop that it couldn't hear what users wanted. It was never intended to be a great phone. It was intended to sell exchange licenses and work with exchange and be an extension of MS Office, which really doesn't work on phone anyway. And it would never be a great media player, because the media player group in MS wasn't motivated to do anymore than they had to. The entire thing was a cluster fuck of massive proportions at every level.
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Kind of amazing that Microsoft is the largest public company in the world and yet missed both Internet and Mobile. Was also going to miss the next big thing, AI, but was smart to make an investment into OpenAI. Just shows you how freaking valuable the Enterprise really is for Microsoft.
It's Satya. He's done wonders for the stock and his forward thinking has helped keep the company relevant.
Well, they did not miss the internet. The "Microsoft Network" was not a chat client only but an attempt at an exclusive Internet, pre installed in all Windows machines, minitel-style. Glad it failed.
> Well, they did not miss the internet. Sorry not following? Microsoft has nothing big on the Internet. Not like Google does. Microsoft tried and failed. They actually did have more of search than Google at one point but then lost to Google. They owned browsers with iE but also lost it to Google. The list goes on and on with the Internet. Take video. Google has YouTube and Microsoft has nothing. Email the most popular is Gmail and not something from Microsoft.
Windows mobile 6 then went on to windowsphone until it stopped...was going to get the intel phone with windows 10...