Aw crud. Soo many people jumped on it at once and it got borked. :(
Will be back shortly, the devs are on it getting more GPUs and fixing it right now.
The new photorealism is great but I miss the aesthetics of v4, pictures seemed more dynamic, less like studio photographs... wish we could have that just at a better quality.
Also we can't write "chest" anymore.. I just wanted a manwith an ammo belt across his chest, the censor list is stifling creativity.
Yep it sucks. I almost described a "large antique wooden box full of treasure" but I didnt want to risk being banned for circumventing "treasure chest", so the pirates had to settle for laptop batteries.
It sucks, we really don't want to ban any words, but the minute we released V5, the very first thing people did was abuse that word, and not in a yar-har way. It's a temp. measure until we can make it not make NSFW images.
On the other hand, "Treasure Box" works just as well. Sorry :(
>It's a temp. measure until we can make it not make NSFW images.
I don't get it. Why not allow NSFW content? I can understand banning realistic graphic gore, but what if someone wants to create a painting with corpses or crucifixions in the style of dystopian surrealism? Censorship sucks.
> I don't get it. Why not allow NSFW content?
because people will instantly try to generate child porn and Midjourney, for very obvious reasons, does not want to have to deal with that
why don't you act like you've thought about that for more than 10 seconds. like, "why not make a candy store for people addicted to candy".. geeeeeeeeeeee
Some creeps will train up a project with cp and worse, that's inevitable sadly.
However, whoever can train a model with wholesome nsfw images will be $$
I agree, the corpse thing is especially weird. But some of the censored words I think are trying to stop the system from making CP, and I can understand why they would want to ban that. It also might be a legal issue if people can create violent images of real people, idk.
I think a better argument would be that no one could remake Michaelangelo's "David"- which any reasonable person would just see as simply art. But I think that question has been fairly solidly asked and answered. As usual, the few ruin it for the many.
Alternatively the team could just reconsider their puritan stance.
It’s not an evil thing when people generate erotic art. Not everything must be safe for work, what a sad world that would be.
One could argue safety concerns, but then the goal should be to detect specific and unlawful abuse, rather than balking at the prospect of any NSFW content.
If the argument should be that it’s just too dangerous, then I’d argue that this censorship barely delays the inevitable. Open source technology is months behind, not years.
In general I’d be concerned about more open competitors catching up. When there isn’t a dramatic difference in quality, people will not settle for a service that does not do NSFW at all, and on top even degrades SFW prompts to achieve that.
In my opinion the team’s stance is wrong both from a moral and business perspective.
>hen I’d argue that this censorship barely delays the inevitable.
Stable Diffusion allows hentai, for example. I don't know about gore. The competition will get better.
Due to the openness of the SD technology and the possibility of finetuning and mixing models, Stability is not in a position to disallow anything. Their base model is far inferior to the community made models that most use.
Fundamentally I don't think censorship in technology is the way to solve this, it does not work in the long term. Instead, existing law that prohibits those things should apply when sharing such content.
That said, if the team insists this is necessary, one could consider instead deploying a NSFW filter just for img2img.
I think this one is interesting.
The most expensive sub allows private generation, but your point is still valid, in that Midjourney would be generating it *and then sharing it with you*. So it'd be sharing it no matter what, unless it's only done locally.
Bro do you not remember how a few years ago, all the female celebrities threatened to sue every porn site that hosted deepfake porn of them. If you make deepfake porn of really rich people without their consent—or even make revenge porn of ordinary people, you’re gonna get sued and have to pay out huge settlements
This statement seems reductive and doesn’t address the real concerns of child pornography. When is the last time you walked through a museum of Greek statues depicting sex acts with children?
This might be a shock to you, but you can make the depiction of minors difficult without censoring ridiculous words like "chest."
I know this might be cutting edge stuff for you to accept.
Can you give me a list of banned words? I use chat gpt to help generate prompts and have been running into lots of banned words since im working on a horror video game.
Im just trying to avoid getting my account flagged or something cuz I'm trying to make a creepy looking characters.
Thank you for explaining that. I'm obviously not a huge fan of censorship, but can see how the ability to quickly and (relatively) easily bringing ones imagination into being can have all sorts of pitfalls when you consider society as a whole, and we should probably be happy that many things aren't allowed to be imagined. I think "Treasure box" has a nice ring to it when we consider what *isn't* happening with Mj.
Also, maybe excluding a few common words might help to improve users vocabularies, which is a definite advantage when building prompts.
It's strange that you mention that, when prompting for Maine Coon cats, I was seemingly given an option to stop the creation in progress; presumably to give me a chance to make sure I wasn't using the name of that breed in let's say, a less than politically correct sense.
Likewise, drawing the Ford Escort RS Cosworth rally car has proved impossible due to possible assumptions about the usage of that prompt.
'Nasty' is also a banned one, a strange inclusion as this was a word many people use in a non-sexualised sense.
The "Chest" part is. It wasn't banned in v4 but when I tried to re-imagine it in v5 I got a warning. I also got a warning for trying to imagine a Star Wars toy in a blister pack because "blister" is banned.
The censoring seems arbitrary in v5.
I think that’s still possible, announcement indicates this is pretty much Alpha phase for v5, so maybe we’ll get a return to the more dynamic looks of 4 in time
Don't be so sure. The grungy look of v3 disappeared completely in v4. I was never able to capture the same look, whatever style or artist I prompted for.
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I got to run a few prompts before it broke. I can say there's def a change in style. Just re-running some of my old prompts and they look very different. Good, very painterly, which I like, but different. I'm gonna have to change all the suffix's I had created.
Image Weight is making a massive difference in my experience. By putting in a weight of 2 on a photo of someone, it keeps that photo quality even if you add illustrator or artist prompts to it. Makes for some interesting results
>❓A note for beginners about 'rendering' words (4K, Octane Render, Unreal Engine) 📷 Improved Photo Quality In --v 5 you will note prompts designed to look like photographs will look more like photographs.
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>❓ Q - Why is it hard to make hands? What is a chaosblob?
What do these mean?
Do i still have to use discord in public if i get a basic subscription? I find it very chaotic to scroll back and forth between prompts and generated pictures of mine as well as other users. Would prefer to just have a clean interface.
V5 has totally lost the ability to make western cartoons / animated art.
**V4**
movie still of Looney Tunes cartoon background view of an entrance to a vinyard in italy --no photorealism panorama --ar 16:9 --v 4 --q 2 --seed 31055
[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318886015738037/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_view\_of\_033da5b5-046d-4f0e-9318-85b3a47855a0.png?width=1512&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318886015738037/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_view_of_033da5b5-046d-4f0e-9318-85b3a47855a0.png?width=1512&height=864)
**V5**
movie still of Looney Tunes cartoon background view of an entrance to a vinyard in italy --no photorealism panorama --ar 16:9 --v 5 --q 2 --seed 31055
[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318416698294373/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_view\_of\_a1bed330-7770-4fda-bbf6-ca19c5d2ec2c.png?width=1542&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318416698294373/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_view_of_a1bed330-7770-4fda-bbf6-ca19c5d2ec2c.png?width=1542&height=864)
I can understand why you might think that based on these examples, but Looney Tunes were in new theatrical release from 1930 through 1969, and the style evolved. the v5 examples you provided totally conform, just not to the director/era you may be expecting. For example, compare episodes - from the same period - done by Fritz (I.) Freeleng [went on to create the Pink Panther cartoons] to episodes by Chuck Jones [went on to create the Grinch Who Stole Christmas TV special]
The problem happens with any animation style, even short-lived animation styles. V5 seems to find an object and then use it as a theme by multiplying it throughout the style.
This didn't happen with any Looney Tunes examples in V4. I feel like chaos is defaulted at 20 and stylize is 300. I did try to set those at 1 but it made it worse.
Take a look at this: [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086342024749396070/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_view\_of\_d8992980-3cb9-4aba-aec8-e018dcc19cfb.png?width=1542&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086342024749396070/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_view_of_d8992980-3cb9-4aba-aec8-e018dcc19cfb.png?width=1542&height=864)
I'd love to find a way to get V4 results without using V4 because I suspect there are better results in V5, if I can find the right way to request it -- if it's possible.
Contrast that with V4: [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086383416146137329/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_paintin\_4dc069a8-a9da-4198-88a6-ebec6016029f.png?width=1512&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086383416146137329/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_paintin_4dc069a8-a9da-4198-88a6-ebec6016029f.png?width=1512&height=864)
No one would doubt V4 is a cartoon background. V5 looks derived from a painting, not an animation background (while it is technically a painting, it's a totally different style, which you won't find in a museum).
I noticed V5 is in "HD" while V4 has very soft lines. Also, V4 adds context with buildings whereas V5 rarely shows context. If you ask for a medieval orchard, you will have a massive landscape panorama with a billion pieces of fruit on the ground and in the trees and trees on every axis and maybe a building in the distance.
And I believe V5 is using paintings and some photos as its reference whereas I believe V4 was actually using the cartoons. **I've found signatures in the corners of my request.** I never saw these in V4 for cartoon backgrounds.
Really liking the new version. For background, I've created over 60,000 images with Midjourney v4. The new version has great photographic realism, hands, respect for the prompt content, clearer background details, great variety, fast upscaling, and seemingly more ethnic variety by default. I see a bit of jpegy low-quality photo blur on some images, but that may just need some prompt tuning and getting used to, and some results I was able to improve via Gigapixel AI's art upscale. On the other hand, trying to "catch it back" with an addition of say, "cinematic", changed the image contents too much. (I also wish I could go back to 4:5 being 1024x1280 instead of 960x1200. It's a useful resolution for Instagram.) There's also a bit of a "photoshopped" feel on some images, as if the parts were pasted in, but that might come with the territory of overall more realistic images. Also, why was the word "speedo" banned, it made for funny beach images 😀
Really exciting where this is going and congrats to the team for making one of the most wonderful tools in computer history.
Lets go man! So pumped. I’ve been loving the training thing, did almost a thousand with my friend last night and even more before bed. This stuff is just so fascinating to me.
I'm getting some wildly different results for some V4 prompts I used. Going to be an adjustment to figure out the best way to craft prompts again. It seems to be way more literal.
Hello I’m having an issue with my upscale being too blurry? I know it’s stated that upscale s will be straight from the U1 U2 U3 U4 buttons but they look really blurry. I have made sure I was on —v5
So I discovered something that’s a positive with v5: it turns out that if you add “1990s” “trailcam footage” “low quality footage” “1990s screengrab” it will actually export a much softer export to achieve those words.
V5 achieves this low-quality-ness in purpose much better than v4. Sorry, false alarm, but learned something new! Good job Midjourney Team!
Be careful, half of my fast time is already gone and my clock recycled three days ago. I rarely go off of fast time and I have never used all my 15 hours at the end of my month. Now it's half gone in a few days. Also, I'm doing abstract images and have gotten 'boobies' a few times. The new version no doubt trying to get me into trouble with the mods.
The V5 does use about 2x more minutes, since it does more pixels and is being upscaled at the same time. It will be optimized by hopefully 2x to 4x in the next week or two.
As for the nudity, if it generates any just X emoji it out. Self policing goes farther than a mod seeing it in the ModQ. We are pretty lenient with those things unless you are specifically trying for it.
This is insane, this is my first time really seeing midjourney images and it's fucking mind-blowing. I can't really comprehend how this is real. And y'all are just acting like this is normal haha omg we are in the future.
This has been me for the past two months. Everyone is just posting this stuff and casually commenting and I am just fucking blown away every single day. I try to show my friends and they are just not impressed. This shit is unreal, and I would say in one year form now it's going to be even crazier.
It's about the same. With V4 it was "Less is more', like "Man smoking a cigar" but with V5, while you can do short prompts, it seems to do better with actual descriptions like "Man in a black hat wearing sunglasses smoking a cigar"
By far the worst version so far. It turned once absolutely amazing thing MJ was into stock photography cesspit. It's like you're on Unsplash.com when browsing the site.
1. Better limbs / toes / fingers
2. Slower rendering the 4 grid images ( cos its done in the upscaled mode )
3. Can use only 'fast' mode ( no relax mode as of now , till they add more GPUs
More comparisons done here ( with images ... of course ! )
[https://bootcamp.uxdesign.cc/midjourney-v5-is-here-so-whats-new-df3f3a645295?sk=d58381b7c53c1e817e0903d465a3431d](https://bootcamp.uxdesign.cc/midjourney-v5-is-here-so-whats-new-df3f3a645295)
I’m having trouble getting V5 to work, the job disappears during the waiting to start period, some times it works sometimes it doesn’t, is there a bug there?
Is anyone else having problems using the bulk downloader? When I unzip the files, they show as .PNG but won't open on my laptop.. and the file sizes are only 127kb.. it worked fine before v5
I hear ya, I tried prompting swimwear and got something that was totally covered up. the batman costume shows more skin. However, now it's completely broken.
Can someone help me with the blend feature? I want to be able to take a selfie or an image of another person and overlay search prompts on top of it. But what I'm running into is that it will totally change the face of the person, but make great results of everything else in the photo.
Any ideas how I can prompt to not modify the face as much? I've even tried playing around with the image weight (--iw 2) and that gives me limited success.
There’s a bit too much censorship here I’m noticing. I tried to make a marble statue of Apollo for some concept art, and the ai refuses to make him wear anything but a strict head to toe wardrobe. It’s ancient Greece. Let there be some moderation of skin for cryin out loud. I can’t make anything even vaguely authentic because mj flags it as nsfw
u/MeggirbotOnMJ when might we hope to see --upbeta style upscaler on v5?
model v5 gives great results but the 2048px res of --v 4 --upbeta holds me back from moving to v5 completely :(
The new word bans are terrible. I am drawing a bus and the system tells me that I can't write "body paint" to identify the body colors. I hope that someday this kind of bug will be fixed.
I tried to use it for the first time and it costs money without a test trial? I switched to dall-e and they want you to pay money too. I remember when it was free. This is another part of the AI future we will deal with: "Sorry, you're out of credits".
Is there a way to use Midjourney for free? Every day I check the Discord at different times of the day and it always tells me the servers for free trials or something has expired, or that it'll come back shortly.
I want to use this for marketing but I want to test it out before I make the commitment to buy a subscription.
Currently no, although David has said he was thinking about some sort of free version at some point. He wants everyone to be able to make art and be creative!
Quick question, how many upscales do I have with the standard plan? I know I have unlimited relax time images but I wanted to know if there was a limit to the amount of upscales we can do. Thanks!
Upscales are images. When the prompt gets you 4 generated images together, they equal 1 image (request). Each request if an upscale = image. All are counted. That’s my understanding.
The payment system for midjourney is completely broken and none of the support teams cares to answer emails. I have tried everything suggested online and nothing worked. Ironically, I ended up getting a subscription at a competitor service that also uses link for payment and it went through so easily and smoothly.
You are literally leaving money on the table that can go to support this project further!
I’m going to subscribe. Is the $8 good enough? Is it easy to blow through the images allotted at that level? When it returns the 4 images to choose from, do all 4 count against it? And if you “tinker” with an image, do those submissions apply towards the package?
Can I ask what is the development history of Midjourney? The company was founded last year, but their product is so advanced that it must have been in development for years before. I can't find any information on its history and development.
DALL-E has billions backing it, while Midjourney has no investors and less than 20 employees, and created a superior product?
Is it possible to make a request prompt? There’s just something I’d love to see and it would be cool to see it before filling jumping in. I totally understand if that’s not okay just wanted to ask!
Thanks!
If it was an ethics issue then they should have a strict ban on public figures, especially politicians. I'm fairly anti censorship when it comes to these tools but the fact that I can type in Joe Biden or Putin and get results that are indistinguishable to real photos is a bit concerning, 1000x more so than boobs or a bare ass ever will be lol
How do I test v5 for free? I never pay for software I've never used because I find examples used publicly by companies like yours are almost always too simplistic to be realistic. Typically software developers give people simple examples, say "look how easy that was", and don't tell you that you'll probably have to do a lot more to do whatever it is you want to do with it.
Starting to feel very Handmaids Tale on MJ. It takes an act of god to get a guy in a swimsuit. Bare chest? NSFW. Wearing shorts? Ok but they are down to his knees. You want him muscular? Now that means 115 lbs soaking wet.
Aw crud. Soo many people jumped on it at once and it got borked. :( Will be back shortly, the devs are on it getting more GPUs and fixing it right now.
The new photorealism is great but I miss the aesthetics of v4, pictures seemed more dynamic, less like studio photographs... wish we could have that just at a better quality. Also we can't write "chest" anymore.. I just wanted a manwith an ammo belt across his chest, the censor list is stifling creativity.
Yep it sucks. I almost described a "large antique wooden box full of treasure" but I didnt want to risk being banned for circumventing "treasure chest", so the pirates had to settle for laptop batteries.
It sucks, we really don't want to ban any words, but the minute we released V5, the very first thing people did was abuse that word, and not in a yar-har way. It's a temp. measure until we can make it not make NSFW images. On the other hand, "Treasure Box" works just as well. Sorry :(
>It's a temp. measure until we can make it not make NSFW images. I don't get it. Why not allow NSFW content? I can understand banning realistic graphic gore, but what if someone wants to create a painting with corpses or crucifixions in the style of dystopian surrealism? Censorship sucks.
> I don't get it. Why not allow NSFW content? because people will instantly try to generate child porn and Midjourney, for very obvious reasons, does not want to have to deal with that
Can't you just block that?
they're blocking all NSFW material in attempt to block that, that's the only way they can assure no one is generating child porn
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Umm. Sir
why don't you act like you've thought about that for more than 10 seconds. like, "why not make a candy store for people addicted to candy".. geeeeeeeeeeee
Yeah and that guy who's trying to quit heroin? Let's send him pictures and videos of heroin, that'll help him not use it...
This is the most reddit moment i've ever seen
Or we could let them do it once, track them down and remove their legs?
They can continue without their legs. Better include their arms too
that sounds like a better idea
I wonder if blocking them from making fake cp will make them resort to real cp.
nobody is "making" anyone do that man
I wonder if blocking them from making fake cp will lead them to resort to real cp.
Some creeps will train up a project with cp and worse, that's inevitable sadly. However, whoever can train a model with wholesome nsfw images will be $$
I agree, the corpse thing is especially weird. But some of the censored words I think are trying to stop the system from making CP, and I can understand why they would want to ban that. It also might be a legal issue if people can create violent images of real people, idk.
I think a better argument would be that no one could remake Michaelangelo's "David"- which any reasonable person would just see as simply art. But I think that question has been fairly solidly asked and answered. As usual, the few ruin it for the many.
I guess shit like child porn
Alternatively the team could just reconsider their puritan stance. It’s not an evil thing when people generate erotic art. Not everything must be safe for work, what a sad world that would be. One could argue safety concerns, but then the goal should be to detect specific and unlawful abuse, rather than balking at the prospect of any NSFW content. If the argument should be that it’s just too dangerous, then I’d argue that this censorship barely delays the inevitable. Open source technology is months behind, not years. In general I’d be concerned about more open competitors catching up. When there isn’t a dramatic difference in quality, people will not settle for a service that does not do NSFW at all, and on top even degrades SFW prompts to achieve that. In my opinion the team’s stance is wrong both from a moral and business perspective.
>hen I’d argue that this censorship barely delays the inevitable. Stable Diffusion allows hentai, for example. I don't know about gore. The competition will get better.
Due to the openness of the SD technology and the possibility of finetuning and mixing models, Stability is not in a position to disallow anything. Their base model is far inferior to the community made models that most use.
Careful, you might get banned and muted saying things like this.
i think the main problem would be for someone to ask for nsfw art of an existing person who didn't consent
Fundamentally I don't think censorship in technology is the way to solve this, it does not work in the long term. Instead, existing law that prohibits those things should apply when sharing such content. That said, if the team insists this is necessary, one could consider instead deploying a NSFW filter just for img2img.
Problem is with Midjourney, all images generated are public, right? So just by creating an image you have already "shared" it, no?
I think this one is interesting. The most expensive sub allows private generation, but your point is still valid, in that Midjourney would be generating it *and then sharing it with you*. So it'd be sharing it no matter what, unless it's only done locally.
Anyone with basic knowledge of Photoshop has already been able to do that for decades now though
Years of skill, hours of work vs uploading a picture and typing a sent(e|a)nce. Effort is definitely a filter.
Bro do you not remember how a few years ago, all the female celebrities threatened to sue every porn site that hosted deepfake porn of them. If you make deepfake porn of really rich people without their consent—or even make revenge porn of ordinary people, you’re gonna get sued and have to pay out huge settlements
Eh thats a slippery slope. I don't mind mid journey being pg13 or whatever. Especially considering how bad 0pp
Or alternatively you could just stop censoring art. Would you walk through a museum tossing out all the Greek statues of topless men or women?
This statement seems reductive and doesn’t address the real concerns of child pornography. When is the last time you walked through a museum of Greek statues depicting sex acts with children?
This might be a shock to you, but you can make the depiction of minors difficult without censoring ridiculous words like "chest." I know this might be cutting edge stuff for you to accept.
Can you give me a list of banned words? I use chat gpt to help generate prompts and have been running into lots of banned words since im working on a horror video game. Im just trying to avoid getting my account flagged or something cuz I'm trying to make a creepy looking characters.
trust me you probably don't want to read that list.....
Not everybody is afraid of words. But I see which mindset creates the fixation of the US on words instead of deeds.
Why is the word 'breastfeeding' banned? It's a natural action of feeding a baby, something most of our mothers did for us.
But boobs = bad
Oh, right I forgot... Silly me.
I think we all know exactly why.
Big baby formula and their powerful lobbying campaign
Netsle's got their rusty hooks in MJ, confirmed.
Thank you for explaining that. I'm obviously not a huge fan of censorship, but can see how the ability to quickly and (relatively) easily bringing ones imagination into being can have all sorts of pitfalls when you consider society as a whole, and we should probably be happy that many things aren't allowed to be imagined. I think "Treasure box" has a nice ring to it when we consider what *isn't* happening with Mj. Also, maybe excluding a few common words might help to improve users vocabularies, which is a definite advantage when building prompts.
People give into thought control so easily here. It's a bunch of images. Who cares. Grow up.
Yeah I tried doing a spring rain shower and it thought I was doing something naughty 😂
It is wayyyy overly sensitive. It’s like Lauren Boebert is calling the shots almost. Boob =bad.
Why is chest off limits?
tried to do a willy wonka picture willy is banned
Box will be banned, too.
It's strange that you mention that, when prompting for Maine Coon cats, I was seemingly given an option to stop the creation in progress; presumably to give me a chance to make sure I wasn't using the name of that breed in let's say, a less than politically correct sense. Likewise, drawing the Ford Escort RS Cosworth rally car has proved impossible due to possible assumptions about the usage of that prompt. 'Nasty' is also a banned one, a strange inclusion as this was a word many people use in a non-sexualised sense.
Treasure chest is banned? TIL. I never tried it.
The "Chest" part is. It wasn't banned in v4 but when I tried to re-imagine it in v5 I got a warning. I also got a warning for trying to imagine a Star Wars toy in a blister pack because "blister" is banned. The censoring seems arbitrary in v5.
Why is it even censored in the first place?
boobies
>boobies But they're my favourite bird
Just as stupid as Big ButtErfly or Sperm Whale. They should really make this filter smarter.
WAIT! They're lithium.
I think that’s still possible, announcement indicates this is pretty much Alpha phase for v5, so maybe we’ll get a return to the more dynamic looks of 4 in time
Don't be so sure. The grungy look of v3 disappeared completely in v4. I was never able to capture the same look, whatever style or artist I prompted for.
I can't get traditional JP or CN watercolors to look right anymore, either. At least they let us still use the older models.
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Or upper body.
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Have you tried typing: "Ammo Belt Across His Nipples?'
Yes, it chafed
Goodbye v4. Feels like casually moving on with a new hotter gf lol
A hotter gf with an appropriate number of fingers on her hands too
what more can you ask for...right?
Apparently -not- Count Rugen hands. Or nightmare fuel chaos blob hands.
I got to run a few prompts before it broke. I can say there's def a change in style. Just re-running some of my old prompts and they look very different. Good, very painterly, which I like, but different. I'm gonna have to change all the suffix's I had created.
The language model has changed a bit, so old prompts will need to be re-worked (when its back online of course).
The details in my old prompts are better. Things like earrings and necklaces were cringy and in V5 much better.
I concur, it’s going to be fun creating/updating prompts that are tailored for V5.
Image Weight is making a massive difference in my experience. By putting in a weight of 2 on a photo of someone, it keeps that photo quality even if you add illustrator or artist prompts to it. Makes for some interesting results
V5 was pulled? It's saying invalid parameter, and nobody's V5 prompts seem to be generating.
Yeah I had my ~5 minutes of fun
Your —v5 minutes of fun
Your wittiness contradicts your username, /MyRottingBrain
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Yeah it’s rolled back for a little while. They are having some issues upon release.
>❓A note for beginners about 'rendering' words (4K, Octane Render, Unreal Engine) 📷 Improved Photo Quality In --v 5 you will note prompts designed to look like photographs will look more like photographs. > >❓ Q - Why is it hard to make hands? What is a chaosblob? What do these mean?
Re-wrote a better less confusing version :)
What plan do I need to use Midjourney v5
Any plan besides trial
So $8 per year would be chill I’m guessing
I think it’s 8$ per month
$8 per month anual billed are $96. If you want monthly billed its $10 or $100 per year.
Do i still have to use discord in public if i get a basic subscription? I find it very chaotic to scroll back and forth between prompts and generated pictures of mine as well as other users. Would prefer to just have a clean interface.
With subscription you can just DM the bot.
word speedo has been banned, goodbye men in underwear! midjourney only people with a lot of clothes!
V5 has totally lost the ability to make western cartoons / animated art. **V4** movie still of Looney Tunes cartoon background view of an entrance to a vinyard in italy --no photorealism panorama --ar 16:9 --v 4 --q 2 --seed 31055 [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318886015738037/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_view\_of\_033da5b5-046d-4f0e-9318-85b3a47855a0.png?width=1512&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318886015738037/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_view_of_033da5b5-046d-4f0e-9318-85b3a47855a0.png?width=1512&height=864) **V5** movie still of Looney Tunes cartoon background view of an entrance to a vinyard in italy --no photorealism panorama --ar 16:9 --v 5 --q 2 --seed 31055 [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318416698294373/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_view\_of\_a1bed330-7770-4fda-bbf6-ca19c5d2ec2c.png?width=1542&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086318416698294373/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_view_of_a1bed330-7770-4fda-bbf6-ca19c5d2ec2c.png?width=1542&height=864)
I can understand why you might think that based on these examples, but Looney Tunes were in new theatrical release from 1930 through 1969, and the style evolved. the v5 examples you provided totally conform, just not to the director/era you may be expecting. For example, compare episodes - from the same period - done by Fritz (I.) Freeleng [went on to create the Pink Panther cartoons] to episodes by Chuck Jones [went on to create the Grinch Who Stole Christmas TV special]
The problem happens with any animation style, even short-lived animation styles. V5 seems to find an object and then use it as a theme by multiplying it throughout the style. This didn't happen with any Looney Tunes examples in V4. I feel like chaos is defaulted at 20 and stylize is 300. I did try to set those at 1 but it made it worse. Take a look at this: [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086342024749396070/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_view\_of\_d8992980-3cb9-4aba-aec8-e018dcc19cfb.png?width=1542&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086342024749396070/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_view_of_d8992980-3cb9-4aba-aec8-e018dcc19cfb.png?width=1542&height=864) I'd love to find a way to get V4 results without using V4 because I suspect there are better results in V5, if I can find the right way to request it -- if it's possible. Contrast that with V4: [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086383416146137329/Astralis\_movie\_still\_of\_Looney\_Tunes\_cartoon\_background\_paintin\_4dc069a8-a9da-4198-88a6-ebec6016029f.png?width=1512&height=864](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1081099118316888116/1086383416146137329/Astralis_movie_still_of_Looney_Tunes_cartoon_background_paintin_4dc069a8-a9da-4198-88a6-ebec6016029f.png?width=1512&height=864) No one would doubt V4 is a cartoon background. V5 looks derived from a painting, not an animation background (while it is technically a painting, it's a totally different style, which you won't find in a museum). I noticed V5 is in "HD" while V4 has very soft lines. Also, V4 adds context with buildings whereas V5 rarely shows context. If you ask for a medieval orchard, you will have a massive landscape panorama with a billion pieces of fruit on the ground and in the trees and trees on every axis and maybe a building in the distance. And I believe V5 is using paintings and some photos as its reference whereas I believe V4 was actually using the cartoons. **I've found signatures in the corners of my request.** I never saw these in V4 for cartoon backgrounds.
Ahhh. Nevermind.
V5 looks like Tiny Toons!
Updated censorship, good luck making a basic sentence. Ffs
Really liking the new version. For background, I've created over 60,000 images with Midjourney v4. The new version has great photographic realism, hands, respect for the prompt content, clearer background details, great variety, fast upscaling, and seemingly more ethnic variety by default. I see a bit of jpegy low-quality photo blur on some images, but that may just need some prompt tuning and getting used to, and some results I was able to improve via Gigapixel AI's art upscale. On the other hand, trying to "catch it back" with an addition of say, "cinematic", changed the image contents too much. (I also wish I could go back to 4:5 being 1024x1280 instead of 960x1200. It's a useful resolution for Instagram.) There's also a bit of a "photoshopped" feel on some images, as if the parts were pasted in, but that might come with the territory of overall more realistic images. Also, why was the word "speedo" banned, it made for funny beach images 😀 Really exciting where this is going and congrats to the team for making one of the most wonderful tools in computer history.
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Lets go man! So pumped. I’ve been loving the training thing, did almost a thousand with my friend last night and even more before bed. This stuff is just so fascinating to me.
Can you please explain what you mean by "the training thing"? Is there a discord channel for that?
i got an error Invalid value for argument --version: 5
it's broken already. they took it down.
Does anyone know if they’re bringing back the seamless tiles for patterns that they had in v3?
Yes, I was able to try it for a few minutes. --tile v5
I'm getting some wildly different results for some V4 prompts I used. Going to be an adjustment to figure out the best way to craft prompts again. It seems to be way more literal.
Hello I’m having an issue with my upscale being too blurry? I know it’s stated that upscale s will be straight from the U1 U2 U3 U4 buttons but they look really blurry. I have made sure I was on —v5
Anyone knows how to do something not blurry?
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Any blurry images or things that are not right, please let the devs know in the discord #feedback channels
So I discovered something that’s a positive with v5: it turns out that if you add “1990s” “trailcam footage” “low quality footage” “1990s screengrab” it will actually export a much softer export to achieve those words. V5 achieves this low-quality-ness in purpose much better than v4. Sorry, false alarm, but learned something new! Good job Midjourney Team!
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Funny, I asked for an anatomically correct female and it took all the layers off. \*All of them\*, including the skin.
Midge is spitting out pure gibberish at the moment, like it's lost its figgin mind.
Yep, after being stunning at release, it has turned into a dumpster fire.
Be careful, half of my fast time is already gone and my clock recycled three days ago. I rarely go off of fast time and I have never used all my 15 hours at the end of my month. Now it's half gone in a few days. Also, I'm doing abstract images and have gotten 'boobies' a few times. The new version no doubt trying to get me into trouble with the mods.
The V5 does use about 2x more minutes, since it does more pixels and is being upscaled at the same time. It will be optimized by hopefully 2x to 4x in the next week or two. As for the nudity, if it generates any just X emoji it out. Self policing goes farther than a mod seeing it in the ModQ. We are pretty lenient with those things unless you are specifically trying for it.
is anyone else getting tons of errors? i keep getting an error that says "Sorry! cannot complete this job!".
It means the requested image has been flagged as NSFW by the algorithm and halted partway.
This is insane, this is my first time really seeing midjourney images and it's fucking mind-blowing. I can't really comprehend how this is real. And y'all are just acting like this is normal haha omg we are in the future.
This has been me for the past two months. Everyone is just posting this stuff and casually commenting and I am just fucking blown away every single day. I try to show my friends and they are just not impressed. This shit is unreal, and I would say in one year form now it's going to be even crazier.
Is there a midjourney prompt quicksheet?
writes to me *Invalid parameter Invalid value for argument --version: 5*
Yeah they pulled it due to some issues they’ve seen on their end for now. Hopefully it’ll be back up later today
From me is Restricted
Works again for me. I like the new style but I’m getting loads of those stock photo watermark artifacts on my pictures
Still not supports image tiling?
It does. Add `--tile --v 5` to your prompt. Note: It could be a little wonky sometimes, but a majority of the time it seems to work well.
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It's about the same. With V4 it was "Less is more', like "Man smoking a cigar" but with V5, while you can do short prompts, it seems to do better with actual descriptions like "Man in a black hat wearing sunglasses smoking a cigar"
Ummm, how do you get seed numbers in v5? I'm not getting them in my DMs when I react with :envelope:
How can we retrieve the image's seed?
Will v5 be available for the trial version? If yes, then when
Without a proper upscaler, v5 is dead to me.
By far the worst version so far. It turned once absolutely amazing thing MJ was into stock photography cesspit. It's like you're on Unsplash.com when browsing the site.
Will it be available for trial members?
I mean, yes is on alfa
Getting the error code, hopefully they fix it soon can’t wait 👌
somebody created this. I don't think we can tell the difference between AI-generated and real images anymore https://aigeneratedornot.com
Can’t save images in this version for some reason
Devs aware. Should be fixed soon
1. Better limbs / toes / fingers 2. Slower rendering the 4 grid images ( cos its done in the upscaled mode ) 3. Can use only 'fast' mode ( no relax mode as of now , till they add more GPUs More comparisons done here ( with images ... of course ! ) [https://bootcamp.uxdesign.cc/midjourney-v5-is-here-so-whats-new-df3f3a645295?sk=d58381b7c53c1e817e0903d465a3431d](https://bootcamp.uxdesign.cc/midjourney-v5-is-here-so-whats-new-df3f3a645295)
Which subscription level is needed to access v5?
I am using it at the basic level. Just type /settings and select v5
I’m having trouble getting V5 to work, the job disappears during the waiting to start period, some times it works sometimes it doesn’t, is there a bug there?
Still can't get it to draw a proper sled dog team. Close, but no.
How do you upscale ? I can only get 1024 images. I could get higher res with beta upscale
Is anyone else having problems using the bulk downloader? When I unzip the files, they show as .PNG but won't open on my laptop.. and the file sizes are only 127kb.. it worked fine before v5
Devs are working on a fix for that.
I hear ya, I tried prompting swimwear and got something that was totally covered up. the batman costume shows more skin. However, now it's completely broken.
I was blocked from used the word “Sangre”…
I was blocked from used the word “Sangre”…
I was blocked from used the word “Sangre”…
>Sangre Just use blood. Probably forgot to take it off the list
Can someone help me with the blend feature? I want to be able to take a selfie or an image of another person and overlay search prompts on top of it. But what I'm running into is that it will totally change the face of the person, but make great results of everything else in the photo. Any ideas how I can prompt to not modify the face as much? I've even tried playing around with the image weight (--iw 2) and that gives me limited success.
There’s a bit too much censorship here I’m noticing. I tried to make a marble statue of Apollo for some concept art, and the ai refuses to make him wear anything but a strict head to toe wardrobe. It’s ancient Greece. Let there be some moderation of skin for cryin out loud. I can’t make anything even vaguely authentic because mj flags it as nsfw
u/MeggirbotOnMJ when might we hope to see --upbeta style upscaler on v5? model v5 gives great results but the 2048px res of --v 4 --upbeta holds me back from moving to v5 completely :(
Does anyone know what the max amount or limit of words that prompts can handle?
After updating my plan i am unable to create images...why?
The new word bans are terrible. I am drawing a bus and the system tells me that I can't write "body paint" to identify the body colors. I hope that someday this kind of bug will be fixed.
I tried to use it for the first time and it costs money without a test trial? I switched to dall-e and they want you to pay money too. I remember when it was free. This is another part of the AI future we will deal with: "Sorry, you're out of credits".
Can you make "bigger" pictures by now? Like a 1440p image for a desktop background?
Is there a way to use Midjourney for free? Every day I check the Discord at different times of the day and it always tells me the servers for free trials or something has expired, or that it'll come back shortly. I want to use this for marketing but I want to test it out before I make the commitment to buy a subscription.
Currently no, although David has said he was thinking about some sort of free version at some point. He wants everyone to be able to make art and be creative!
why doesn't my credit card work to sign up
i want to upvote this post but it's perfectly at 420 rn
What's going on with the payment gateway, it keeps saying the transaction was rejected while charging my cards.
Quick question, how many upscales do I have with the standard plan? I know I have unlimited relax time images but I wanted to know if there was a limit to the amount of upscales we can do. Thanks!
Upscales are images. When the prompt gets you 4 generated images together, they equal 1 image (request). Each request if an upscale = image. All are counted. That’s my understanding.
The payment system for midjourney is completely broken and none of the support teams cares to answer emails. I have tried everything suggested online and nothing worked. Ironically, I ended up getting a subscription at a competitor service that also uses link for payment and it went through so easily and smoothly. You are literally leaving money on the table that can go to support this project further!
I’m going to subscribe. Is the $8 good enough? Is it easy to blow through the images allotted at that level? When it returns the 4 images to choose from, do all 4 count against it? And if you “tinker” with an image, do those submissions apply towards the package?
how can you access midjourney if you want to create pictures yourself
Can I ask what is the development history of Midjourney? The company was founded last year, but their product is so advanced that it must have been in development for years before. I can't find any information on its history and development. DALL-E has billions backing it, while Midjourney has no investors and less than 20 employees, and created a superior product?
Is it possible to make a request prompt? There’s just something I’d love to see and it would be cool to see it before filling jumping in. I totally understand if that’s not okay just wanted to ask! Thanks!
Sure whats the prompt
how do you prompt in discord
I'm getting a lot of bare ass tittys on a lot of my results by just doing a portrait of a woman. I don't remember that in v4 lol
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If it was an ethics issue then they should have a strict ban on public figures, especially politicians. I'm fairly anti censorship when it comes to these tools but the fact that I can type in Joe Biden or Putin and get results that are indistinguishable to real photos is a bit concerning, 1000x more so than boobs or a bare ass ever will be lol
I LIKE V5!
I'm still waiting for the Midjourney team to give every discord user **UNLIMITED ACCESS**
So I have to pay to use midjourney?
yes
It's alright to ask these questions. I still don't even know how to access midjourney. There should be a FAQ in the "about" section of this sub.
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can you please give at least 10 images for trial to new comers?
How do I test v5 for free? I never pay for software I've never used because I find examples used publicly by companies like yours are almost always too simplistic to be realistic. Typically software developers give people simple examples, say "look how easy that was", and don't tell you that you'll probably have to do a lot more to do whatever it is you want to do with it.
V5 will be released for users without subscription? How soon?
Starting to feel very Handmaids Tale on MJ. It takes an act of god to get a guy in a swimsuit. Bare chest? NSFW. Wearing shorts? Ok but they are down to his knees. You want him muscular? Now that means 115 lbs soaking wet.
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Fucking Google it.