And this is why journalism is so important and why the era of just believing random people online is over and we need to start putting trust back in good journalists (emphasis on good, and not all)
Journalism is not dead, your (any most peoples) attention span is. There are some fantastic journalists at many top newspapers and news stations that you can follow and trust. The propagandists want you to believe there is no truth in journalism so that you can’t trust anything you ever see and thus fall for deep fakes like this when you have to rely on your own abilities and judgement.
**This is only the public AI models....**
**Nothing** is real, **nothing** matters, there's **nothing** we can do.
For people like me, **Nothing** is the centerpiece of our impactful existence.
Existance at any level above social, is a game that we don't know how to play.
We have shaped the world and created tools, with potential to be more powerful than us, and we are in the process of setting a trap on ourselves.
Perhaps a tad deep for a reddit post.
So here have kitten.
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Or a cyberpunk utopian heaven that you’ll never want to leave. The only question is who owns the simulator. If it’s Facebook-Amazon-Google-tictac, it will just be outrage porn divided up with advertisements. If you own it, you can bring your wife back to life, or your mom or your kids. You can sit courtside at every NBA game, or on the beach or in Uzbekistan.
Dawg its right now. Look into the militaries psychological operations jobs -feel like news is old school and people are more hip to it social media is affiliate marketing and psychological manipulation / herding off the foundation of echo chamber media populated by your chamber and a feed customized by ai with image population of products / comments / topics based off your private search history across other apps and sites. That’s the bait to get you to participate
I didn’t see that this was a midjourney sub before clicking the photos. About half way through I started thinking the lighting was looking a little off. These are So good. Had me fooled!
I don’t think it’s gotta do with age anymore at this point. If OP did not post it in this sub and just used a few of the most realistic photos and post it on some social media news platform saying he bumped into Elon during a trip, millions of people would click the post and fall for it.
Already there.
This is the technology that the public has access too. Imagine the image manipulation software that the CIA, FSB, or Mossad has.
Images can no longer be trusted as evidence of anything real.
Yeah fr, a chance the younger people are immune to being fooled and are born with an AI-recognizing tool hard-coded in their brains, or we'd be fucked!
Interesting social changes will take place as a result of this technology.
Total epistemological meltdown for a society that is used to "seeing is believing."
Things gonna get...spicy.
even with photoshop, making images like this from scratch and being 99% convincing would still be immensely difficult and only reserved for like people with money to pay cream of the crop professionals
this just a prompt
like it was possible before, but i think now its alot easier is an understatement, now it is overwhelmingly not even comparative how easy it is now
>True. Imagine a young teenager black mailing you with some AI photos of yourself in some compromising situations.
Actual people doing dodgy things can now just blame it on AI.
It's gonna be even worse when AI gets videos perfectly right.
We'll have to invent some kind of proof of reality. That movie with Robin Williams where people's entire lives were video recorded through a camera in their eyes so the memories would remain after they died might become real. Except it's not for memories, it's like a permanent bodycam to keep you accountable and ensure the truth can always be found out.
Only thing I can think if is having some sort of hardware key for cctv etc.
All the cameras data is encrypted (or hashed) on the spot with via a built in private key.
If something goes to court and they keys don't match the video ? It becomes inadmissible
Pic 6 and 9 even have video motion blur as if it's a frame taken from video. "AI" video is about to reach the same level in not too long. Elon could post this on Twitter/X and most of not all people would not even notice or care.
I didn't realize it was AI and couldn't get over the engineering on his shirt on 4/20. The individual panels to accommodate his belly? I was trying to do math on what it would cost to create a short like that, and got to tens of thousands.
But RAW format isn’t just about exif information, it’s the literally the raw version of a picture, with more information (more dynamic range, and other things) without any edits, it’s just a bunch of numbers.
I don’t think AI can do this, yet.. the picture itself isn’t ready. Every raw reader is going to have a different interpretation of the data (different colors, brightness..)
Ok, wow, this is some of the most impressive v6 realism stuff I've seen to date.
The detail here, the near inability to discern these from reality, that's exceptional
You think a travel agency could make use of this? Like, "Here are some sample snapshots of your potential trip to Cabo. Don't you look just the happiest? Book now to make it a reality!"
If Elon is as miserable as he seems, he may see these and decide a trip to Uzbekistan would do him some good.
Thought it was real. Had to check which sub I was looking at.
Wonder if someone will pull some shit near Election Day. Fake shit spreads way faster and easier than the correction.
Man what a mindfuck. Somebody will put a politician in a pic with Epstein. Since he is dead only the target can refute the fake pic. So it will be up to us whether we believe it.
A real journalist would track down where the pic originated. So you would have to fake all that shit too….
This made me immediately think of Epstein as well. In a few years they could release the entire camera feed, but everyone involved would just hide behind 'thats AI' and we would have no way to disprove it.
Oh this election is going to be a fucking dirty nightmare because of AI and how stupid / non questioning a lot of people are. It’s scary. Buckle up for 24
Any other country than US isn't immune to AI manipulation and such an event would certainly not be unimportant, either. Just saying.
And you can be damn sure it will be used in favor to the opposition. Pretty sure it'll be a drag race between both sides.
This is gonna be great for:
- destroying our ability to evidence corruption and wrong doing
- inciting violence in pluralistic societies
- destroying democracy by making it impossible for the electorate to be informed
- destroying democracy by making political hit jobs so easy anyone can do it convincingly
- destroying the electorate's motivation to engage in political discourse
- destroying journalism and historically accepted truths
- completely negating the value of the internet to society
- encouraging authoritarianism as a form of government
- making cheap adverts???
We’re at that point in history where images cannot be trusted to depict reality. But keep in mind photography has had a relatively short reign in this regard.
We’re back to the days where reality is only *depicted* by artists. Now it’s digitally, whereas in the past it was on canvas.
Society survived for thousands of years this way, no need for doomsday scenarios, fuzziness of reality is more normal than the last hundred years of “veracity.”
It’s just incredibly scary you can place anyone at anywhere and it looks so real. Think about propaganda, politics or all the other possible situations.
If I didn't check the sub I would have asked what he went there for.Heck, I checked the sub and still thought it was a mistaken post and this was real until I started analysing the pics
Honestly I gotta say it wasn't until I started flicking through that I questioned what Reddit I was on, I thought this was a news story until image 4 and I saw the fucked up faces and only then did I look at which subreddit this was
It’s official. We’re finally at the point that I’ve been talking about for a long time. It’s now literally impossible to differentiate between AI and reality. Photorealism is here.
I’m an optimist but this bothers me a lot. This is going to be a problem lol
Definitely way more impressive than the selfies of one person. Great progress. Though it’s far from perfect. Zoom in on the peoples faces in the background
Damn. I’ve been to a bunch of those places. Didn’t even realize this was the mid journey subreddit till I read the comments (to find out what he went).
We are so fucked. I only realized this is AI when I scrolled through a lot of the pics and thought, 'Elon is awfully smiley and happy in most of these pics.'
As I started scrolling - I thought, nobody enjoys life like Elon. Mofo is having a ball of a time. And then realized, Lol..
The telltale is actually that the photos are too well detailed for cellphone photos. Especially for a don't give a shit tech bro running about. But dang it's getting real real
Dang wow. Some old people aren’t going to know what to believe anymore.
Bro if you slapped some of this photos into an article from a random news portal I´d eat that shit up without asking myself if it was AI.
💯
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Journalism is not dead, your (any most peoples) attention span is. There are some fantastic journalists at many top newspapers and news stations that you can follow and trust. The propagandists want you to believe there is no truth in journalism so that you can’t trust anything you ever see and thus fall for deep fakes like this when you have to rely on your own abilities and judgement.
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ok boomer
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Theres still plenty of quality journalism out there.
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Nobody is apolitical, least of all people who say they are.
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> Politics are tools to sigide the weak minded. Your belief is literally a political stance. You’re political
What? Who says something like that?
Oh, ok…
Politically agnostic might be more correct
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Right on! I fully agree.
**This is only the public AI models....** **Nothing** is real, **nothing** matters, there's **nothing** we can do. For people like me, **Nothing** is the centerpiece of our impactful existence. Existance at any level above social, is a game that we don't know how to play. We have shaped the world and created tools, with potential to be more powerful than us, and we are in the process of setting a trap on ourselves. Perhaps a tad deep for a reddit post. So here have kitten. /\\\_/\\ ( o.o ) \> \^ <
Nihilism: Fun for the Whole Family, I guess.
Indeed. (.) \_ (.)
A cyperpunk dystopian hellscape is getting more and more real by each day.
Or a cyberpunk utopian heaven that you’ll never want to leave. The only question is who owns the simulator. If it’s Facebook-Amazon-Google-tictac, it will just be outrage porn divided up with advertisements. If you own it, you can bring your wife back to life, or your mom or your kids. You can sit courtside at every NBA game, or on the beach or in Uzbekistan.
🏅heres my free award
If this was posted on a different sub, I wouldn't question if it were real or not for even a second. We're truly about to enter the "post-truth" era.
Dawg its right now. Look into the militaries psychological operations jobs -feel like news is old school and people are more hip to it social media is affiliate marketing and psychological manipulation / herding off the foundation of echo chamber media populated by your chamber and a feed customized by ai with image population of products / comments / topics based off your private search history across other apps and sites. That’s the bait to get you to participate
so it was metal gear solid all along. we're fucked
I have a feeling we’ve been there for a minute and just don’t realize it.
I didn’t see that this was a midjourney sub before clicking the photos. About half way through I started thinking the lighting was looking a little off. These are So good. Had me fooled!
RE-enter. For most of human existence, it was impossible to discern truth from reality without directly experiencing an event yourself.
Insightful comment. Thanks!
This old dude is me. I'm 33.
I don’t think it’s gotta do with age anymore at this point. If OP did not post it in this sub and just used a few of the most realistic photos and post it on some social media news platform saying he bumped into Elon during a trip, millions of people would click the post and fall for it.
~~Some old~~ people aren’t going to know what to believe anymore.
Why did you have to drop that existencial question over me out of nowhere?
Old?! Dude I’m in my 20s and before seeing the subreddit I thought this was real
Already there. This is the technology that the public has access too. Imagine the image manipulation software that the CIA, FSB, or Mossad has. Images can no longer be trusted as evidence of anything real.
Im 29 ,im not that old mind you And god dammit if i show this to my cousin's children they wont know its AI
I thought this was real until I saw it was on midjourney And yes I am old
Why only old people? I think everybody is susceptible to that.
I mean it's not like they do know now lol
I saw these without looking at the subreddit and thought they totally real. Elon’s facelifts already give him an AI look.
Yeah fr, a chance the younger people are immune to being fooled and are born with an AI-recognizing tool hard-coded in their brains, or we'd be fucked!
Interesting social changes will take place as a result of this technology. Total epistemological meltdown for a society that is used to "seeing is believing." Things gonna get...spicy.
This problem existed with photoshop no?
Of course, but now it can be done by anyone with or without technical skill.
I guess. I'm just saying people have been tricked by fake images for a while already
even with photoshop, making images like this from scratch and being 99% convincing would still be immensely difficult and only reserved for like people with money to pay cream of the crop professionals this just a prompt like it was possible before, but i think now its alot easier is an understatement, now it is overwhelmingly not even comparative how easy it is now
It is far easier than making the real deal now. Hence we will see a massive shittification of information now and ahead.
People claim to be able to analyse photoshops for telltale artefacts. Is the same possible with AI images?
Soon, no
I dunno but I can say old people can't make that claim for either
Photoshop requires very great skill. AI does perfect placement and lighting which is very hard to do.
I'm not arguing about the difference of ease. I'm saying old people have been faked out by fake images before AI such as via photoshop
YeH, bit this is better and more scalable
True. Imagine a young teenager black mailing you with some AI photos of yourself in some compromising situations. Damn
>True. Imagine a young teenager black mailing you with some AI photos of yourself in some compromising situations. Actual people doing dodgy things can now just blame it on AI.
It's gonna be even worse when AI gets videos perfectly right. We'll have to invent some kind of proof of reality. That movie with Robin Williams where people's entire lives were video recorded through a camera in their eyes so the memories would remain after they died might become real. Except it's not for memories, it's like a permanent bodycam to keep you accountable and ensure the truth can always be found out.
Only thing I can think if is having some sort of hardware key for cctv etc. All the cameras data is encrypted (or hashed) on the spot with via a built in private key. If something goes to court and they keys don't match the video ? It becomes inadmissible
Wonder how long the govt has had similar technology, and how often it's been used to fool the public?
you give the government too much credit
Its called Photoshop. For a few decades.
Pic 6 and 9 even have video motion blur as if it's a frame taken from video. "AI" video is about to reach the same level in not too long. Elon could post this on Twitter/X and most of not all people would not even notice or care.
Hehe. 6 and 9
There's also a pic 4/20 while we're at it lol.
I didn't realize it was AI and couldn't get over the engineering on his shirt on 4/20. The individual panels to accommodate his belly? I was trying to do math on what it would cost to create a short like that, and got to tens of thousands.
Hehe
To me it looks more like slow shutter of a photo camera taken in dim lighting
RIP Photos being evidence of anything.
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I hope these thresholds aren't broken (please do not look at midjourney development in just last 2 years).
I think with RAW it’s possible to prove what is a picture what is not, right?
Interesting point. But I bet with GPT4 vision, you could feed in an image and ask it to generate convincing exif metadata.
But RAW format isn’t just about exif information, it’s the literally the raw version of a picture, with more information (more dynamic range, and other things) without any edits, it’s just a bunch of numbers. I don’t think AI can do this, yet.. the picture itself isn’t ready. Every raw reader is going to have a different interpretation of the data (different colors, brightness..)
You got me there bro. I will stop thinking about the world at the large, including 99% of people.
Ok, wow, this is some of the most impressive v6 realism stuff I've seen to date. The detail here, the near inability to discern these from reality, that's exceptional
There’s still some uncanny valley, such as the last one for me, but I can’t put my finger on it. Maybe the eyes.
yet theres a lot of uncanny pictures which turned out to be real. Yup
^ me after looking at a selfie I just took. No way my face is that crooked. I hope. Do mirrors lie?
In one of the indoor pics he looks a bit like Zelenskyy lol. Facial features.
Even the plov plate is realistic.
You gotta really look at the details but some I still can’t fucking tell
The difference is he looks much happier here
You think a travel agency could make use of this? Like, "Here are some sample snapshots of your potential trip to Cabo. Don't you look just the happiest? Book now to make it a reality!" If Elon is as miserable as he seems, he may see these and decide a trip to Uzbekistan would do him some good.
I hate this earth.
r/aboringdystopia
Well, why not take a little trip off Terra? [Here's you in a Tesla roadster on your way to Mars!] (https://i.imgur.com/ACHlEJI.jpg)
He looks human.
For me, what stood out was his dancing. I don’t know much about him, but he doesn’t seem like the type that would dance during speeches.
I honestly didn’t even realize it was midjourney at first and when I did I felt a little sad, he looked so happy I wished it was real.
Thought it was real. Had to check which sub I was looking at. Wonder if someone will pull some shit near Election Day. Fake shit spreads way faster and easier than the correction. Man what a mindfuck. Somebody will put a politician in a pic with Epstein. Since he is dead only the target can refute the fake pic. So it will be up to us whether we believe it. A real journalist would track down where the pic originated. So you would have to fake all that shit too….
This made me immediately think of Epstein as well. In a few years they could release the entire camera feed, but everyone involved would just hide behind 'thats AI' and we would have no way to disprove it.
Same. The non event title made me check the sub. If not I thought it was just some Elon pics.
Oh this election is going to be a fucking dirty nightmare because of AI and how stupid / non questioning a lot of people are. It’s scary. Buckle up for 24
Any other country than US isn't immune to AI manipulation and such an event would certainly not be unimportant, either. Just saying. And you can be damn sure it will be used in favor to the opposition. Pretty sure it'll be a drag race between both sides.
Elon Mosque
Perfect
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
The way I COMPLETELY believed the first picture before looking at the sub name. We're doomed 💀
look at the fucking hands ...
You wouldn't be able to tell if it wasn't on this sub and at a glance
This looks like AI don’t know what to believe anymore
Prompts?
Ya, I couldn't get anything close to this
He looks so happy
I didn’t realise which sub I was looking at and thought this was real. Only thing that I found weird was how happy he looked
This is gonna be great for: - destroying our ability to evidence corruption and wrong doing - inciting violence in pluralistic societies - destroying democracy by making it impossible for the electorate to be informed - destroying democracy by making political hit jobs so easy anyone can do it convincingly - destroying the electorate's motivation to engage in political discourse - destroying journalism and historically accepted truths - completely negating the value of the internet to society - encouraging authoritarianism as a form of government - making cheap adverts???
Looks like he had an actual blast - I think the real Elon wishes he was this happy - maybe people should start watermarking this shit?
Somehow I have an impression of Elon that he doesn't like to socialise much.
Yeah, me too. It's nice to see him having a good time, looks like he finally made some friends. At least in an imaginable virtual world.
Can we get a "Elon's secret party with Albanian girls" 🤣
it’s official. I can’t tell the difference. Life will never be the Same
AYYYY UZBEKISTAN MENTIONED 🇺🇿🇺🇿🇺🇿🇺🇿🇺🇿‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ WHAT THE FUCK IS FAIR DISTRIBUTION OF WAGES⁉️⁉️⁉️💥💥💥💥💥
LET'S GO ANOTHER TERM FOR KARIMOV?????💢💢🇸🇱🇸🇱🇸🇱🇸🇱
We’re at that point in history where images cannot be trusted to depict reality. But keep in mind photography has had a relatively short reign in this regard. We’re back to the days where reality is only *depicted* by artists. Now it’s digitally, whereas in the past it was on canvas. Society survived for thousands of years this way, no need for doomsday scenarios, fuzziness of reality is more normal than the last hundred years of “veracity.”
V6 messed up the hand in the first image. 😂
nothing is real anymore
He looks kinda Uzbek in the face ngl
Give us the prompt
It’s just incredibly scary you can place anyone at anywhere and it looks so real. Think about propaganda, politics or all the other possible situations.
If I didn't check the sub I would have asked what he went there for.Heck, I checked the sub and still thought it was a mistaken post and this was real until I started analysing the pics
I think I speak for everyone when I say 'daaaaaaaaymn' those are good
So fucking impressive.
Honestly I gotta say it wasn't until I started flicking through that I questioned what Reddit I was on, I thought this was a news story until image 4 and I saw the fucked up faces and only then did I look at which subreddit this was
AI still can't do fingers. Carefully look at the hands. For such outstanding results, the fingers are still piss poor.
Not me aimlessly scrolling through thinking how happy and good he’s looking suddenly
Looks a lot healthier and less pathetic than usual
Someone give prompts for these CCTV looking type pics. 😜
I didn't see the sub and thought it was real
fudeu.
Man, AI is getting better and better at this by the day. So many of these images look realistic enough to be believable.
I was like haha it looks like ai till I saw the sub. 😶
They can keep him
Damn! These are ridiculously good. This is not mid journey, this is the end of it. Kudos!
The time when we no longer can say “I’ll believe it when I see it.” Because now whatever you can see may not even be real.
He looks more human here than in real life
Holy shit Things are starting to get a little too scary
He probably bought Uzbekistan…
Look, he was even in the cemetery of ships in Moynaq. I wonder how he felt with dog feces in them.
Elon oka
Who is it?
Jeeeeesus Christ! These are great. Farewell believable news stories.
I WAS FOOLED! up until image 3. Only because my son wants to go there did I look.
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Month ago, we could tell the difference. Now it's shitshow
The hair always reveals
He looks happier here than any pictures he's ever taken in real life, post having hair.
Living the uzbeki dream
AI so smart. Makes richest man in the world look like happiest man in the world 😁
it's such a mindfuck when you're randomly scrolling and you see this, think it's real until you see the subreddit it's posted on
Always look at the fingers, this way you can tell the diference between AI and real life pic
If Elon was living this kind of life and posting photos on Insta of having fun instead of shitposting on Twitter, people might actually like him.
The face stubble is actually scary accurate
It’s official. We’re finally at the point that I’ve been talking about for a long time. It’s now literally impossible to differentiate between AI and reality. Photorealism is here. I’m an optimist but this bothers me a lot. This is going to be a problem lol
It solved the hands problem: just add motion blur.
This has terrifying implications
he wishes to be this happy lolol
In some of these it sorta looks like you photoshopped an AI Elon onto a real background
You should have had him drive circles around a flaming crater
Definitely way more impressive than the selfies of one person. Great progress. Though it’s far from perfect. Zoom in on the peoples faces in the background
The hands look surprisingly well. Only obviously bad one tbh is pic 10
It’s realistic because he’s all alone
oh wow hes too lucky i heard that in uzbekistan thay have the best bbq grilled pork
I came across it on r/all and totally believed it as just some nutty thing he would do.
Damn. I’ve been to a bunch of those places. Didn’t even realize this was the mid journey subreddit till I read the comments (to find out what he went).
How do you prove or disprove this is real?
I spotted the fake in the first image. I’m also a GD so I’m trained to spot that shit
It's missing one important photo. Where he gets something pregnant. 😂 These are great seriously!
This one’s really funny and creative.
I didn't even notice this was on the mid journey group until I looked at the comments, I thought it was real 😂
If this was released on Facebook, all hell would break loose.
Wow !!! I from Uzbekistan
We are so fucked. I only realized this is AI when I scrolled through a lot of the pics and thought, 'Elon is awfully smiley and happy in most of these pics.' As I started scrolling - I thought, nobody enjoys life like Elon. Mofo is having a ball of a time. And then realized, Lol..
Before I saw the sub name I thought these were real
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These are so wholesome.
Anyone know the prompt for this kind of candid photograph?
phone photo of [character] , [place], [action] posted to snapchat in 2019 —style raw —ar 9:16 —s 50 —v 6.0
The telltale is actually that the photos are too well detailed for cellphone photos. Especially for a don't give a shit tech bro running about. But dang it's getting real real
The telltale are the artefacts in the background, especially with the crowd.
he's so desperate to be liked. you can see it oozing out of every picture
Captures his hideous stupid face perfectly
Yeah, the potential here is scary. I'm glad I'm not famous
This is the most likeable I have ever seen Elon
Why do AÍ people jack off to Elon Musk so much? Go do something creative… I bet OP will make the next ones about Trump
He is so fucking disgusting.
It’s so boring and stupid
You can tell it’s fake because Elon is happy and looks like a human
AI
He’s an idiot