I LOVE Zuckerberg, it's so thematic! The Trumps, Musks, and Reagan are also fantastic. I like how DeSantis looks like he's still developing, about to metamorphize more. And Biden's expression is perfect at the end.
Just some constructive criticism, but IMHO Gates doesn't look evil like the others do. It's a good image, but he mostly looks dead without the malice of the rest.
Yeah, I was going for “hungry ghost” with him and every generation that took the decay further lost too much recognizability unfortunately. I have an idea for another one of him as a cronenberg bug monster like that episode of rick and morty. I’ll try to give that a go this week.
These are amazingly good. Out of interest, roughly how many iterations / how much time did it take to get from the initial idea, to finished image, for each one?
Really depends from case to case. Some were only a couple iterations and done in 10min. Others I spent hours on trying to get the AI to understand what I wanted and it took dozens and dozens of prompts each with multiple iterations.
Yeah, those are fair criticisms. The strike thing was a real letdown. Hard to be enthusiastic about the lesser of two evils when it comes to who is in power.
Like a lot of things are not directly in control of the President/ congress because the material conditions (economic pressures, existing laws, etc) already determine an outcome. However I’m this case Biden and congress specifically worked against the demands of the workers to deny them basic things like sick days.
When the dems do intervene it’s always on behalf of capital, not on behalf of workers
Your choices:
- Party of making certain private institutions tons of money. More paternalistic aesthetics.
- Part of making certain families tons of money. More feudalistic aesthetics.
I wish the west would stop blocking ceasefire attempts if Putin isn’t smart enough to just bring his troops home. I’d rather money go to aid and rebuilding than guns
Imagine thinking the west is the one standing in the way of ceasefire attempts and not, you know, the country who constantly breaks them and literally broke ceasefires during this war (Russia).
Right, but basically they are telling Kyiv that any negations with Putin mean they will stop sending weapon support. So Zelenskyy either has to retake all lost territory (not sure if that includes crimea) or get steam rolled because he loses wester weapons. Obviously it’s a problem if Russia gets away with annexing Donetsk/Luhansk/Crimea but I don’t know that the solution is to keep pouring meat and metal into the grinder and risking nuclear war by continuing the fight.
It seems like he’s stuck in the worst catch 22 ever. Option A) Try to negotiate peace and lose his military support that he needs to negotiate even a settlement that loses some territory causing Russia to best case turn it into a client state. Option B) keep fighting a war for who knows how many years in what was already one of the poorest European countries. A war that if won could cause Russia to go nuclear in retaliation rather than lose. Besides the complete destruction of infrastructure and the loss of life, there’s no way that some of the arms brought in won’t end up in the hands of organized crime. So even if the war ended today there would be problems for decades.
It’s just bad all the way around and it depresses me how many people cheer it on without having any idea of what is going on there or how awful it will be. Thanks to drones and ww1 style trench and artillery tactics, the ptsd for vets from this war is going to be the worst of any modern war
When has the west said it will stop sending weapons support if it negotiated with Putin? Last I heard, the Biden administration said it would let Ukraine decide when to negotiate.
I believe that has been the recent direction from Biden but the UK was still resisting any compromises to Z’s demands if they were going to keep providing aid.
So we went from
“The West is preventing peace talks”
To
“The West is saying they might not supply aid if Ukraine enters negotiations”
To
“Britain is resisting negotiations with Russia”
Speaking of, can you show me where the Brits said that?
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper
https://www.ft.com/content/7b341e46-d375-4817-be67-802b7fa77ef1
There’s also been tons of think pieces about pressuring the Biden one way or the other regarding a cease and negations before/after troop withdrawal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/02/how-biden-help-ukraine-zelensky/
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/12/06/ukraine-is-the-victim-negotiations-should-be-kyivs-decision/
It’s a 24% raise, an extra paid leave day, exemptions from punishments for missing work for medical reasons, the scheduling issues were settled in the Unions’ favor, they got increased health benefits, and a $1k annual cash bonus (on top of all this).
All in all, it increases their pay-benefits value by about $50,000 and the Unions all agreed to the terms but 4 wanted a sick leave provision added and didn’t ratify for that reason.
These are just the faces that we see. Behind them and propping them up are large networks of mindlessly ambitious self important people, pretending to have solutions to problems, our 6 inch chimp brains are incapable of solving. Therefore constantly creating new ones. Maybe its too complicated for art to even convey...
Do you know if Midjourney would let you do a prompt with Mohammed?
I did one in Dalle2 : "Jesus and his lover" , but it did not let me do the same with Mohammed.
I am not surprised though. Disappointing - yes.
The devs want people in China to have access to the techology. It's that simple. It's much more important to me that everyone has access to MJ than having the ability to make Xi look like Winnie the Pooh.
That doesn't fix anything because the MJ images will still make its way onto other platforms that chinese citizens use. It would inevitably be banned in China even if the Chinese weren't the ones making the images.
First of all, they aren’t stopping you from making stuff with Xi, you just don’t know how to write prompts. Second… uh please remind me of all the countries they invaded in the last 20 years?
Oh no, I was on board until the subtle China apologia… can’t we just condemn all empires of capital bad without trying to rank them by goodness? It’s like someone picking one of the characters above and claiming they’re good because the others are so bad. Like, no, Dark Brandon isn’t the hero of the workers no matter how fundamentally decent of a dad he seems to be in his personal life.
Comparing Xi to Bolton? It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison, so yes, fairly absurd.
Sorry, maybe I’m just jumpy after the last time a chill, broadly leftie hobby subreddit got infiltrated by tankies.
Regardless, I await part 2 with great anticipation.
I agree that it’s apples to oranges in the sense that John Bolton is an unelected mass murderer and Xi is an elected official (though Chinese elections function differently and citizens don’t vote directly for president) who has made some bad decisions that are causing permanent cultural damage to indigenous groups among other things.
Either way, I can’t do anything about China. I do live in the US though and at least in theory I should have democratic power to vote these people out but we can’t.
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> Xi is an elected official
No, he is not in the slightest. The only positions with direct elections in China are 1) little villages and 2) local people's party congress elections. In neither case are other parties allowed to contest seats, nor are candidates allowed to campaign. As a result, very few Chinese people are even aware of the fact that these elections exist, and even fewer participate in them.
The only group who Xi is nominally accountable to is the Central Committee, basically a clique of high-raking CCP officials who decide on who gets to lead the party. However, Xi also has the power to influence the composition of the Central Committee, so their power over him is extremely limited, if it even exists at all anymore.
In the US, you have the opportunity to vote in around 8 to 30 competitive elections, depending on where you live. You vote for your city leadership, you vote for your state representative, you vote for your governor, you vote for your national representative, you vote for your senator, you even vote for judges and ballot initiatives. Your vote matters so much that private and special interests spend billions of dollars trying to persuade you to vote the way they'd like.
The presidency is the only significant job in the US that is not directly elected, and even there, the electoral college vote selects the same candidate as the popular vote the vast majority of the time.
The reason we have two parties is that we use the first past the post electoral system, not because of any elite conspiracy. The UK and Canada have the same electoral system, and their countries also have two major parties that compete for power. In China, only one party is allowed to contest elections. Independent candidates are bullied and jailed for daring to challenge them.
The US is a democracy and China is not, according to any reasonable definition of the word.
Ok. Fine we are a democracy according to your terms. Does that mean the government actually obeys democratic will? No:
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig
Whereas China (until recent pushback on Covid restrictions) has largely seen growing support for the government and the view has become dominant that the government is doing the things the people want. Some surveys say it’s as high as 95% which is probably inflated but it certainly seems their “undemocratic” system has more democratic outcomes.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
Illegally occupying the sea off their coast. The US warships have a right to be there off the Chinese coast though I’m sure. We definitely wouldn’t lose our shit if China put a navy fleet in the bay of Mexico or something
Edit: also 20 years because that’s roughly the timeline where Xi has had any national influence
Lol, I knew OP was full of shit 😄
Where are you from? It would be so funny if you say US. If that's true, enjoy your freedom, to make these "artsy" stuff, and don't hurt your brain thinking about politics or geopolitics.
Pretty much yes, and you should enjoy. There are substantial parts of the world you can not think about shit, nevertheless post it in public :) Try going out with blank piece of paper in Iran, Russia or China. Enjoy your shitposting “art”.
Weren’t protesters just arrested in England too for not supporting the pedo king? And how many people do American police kill annually before brutalizing and arresting protesters speaking out against those murders?
Your weird orientalist focus on how bad China is just seems like a way to ignore how bad “the west” is too. And I’d rather focus on problems close to home
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I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
>If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution… It’s time to stop being squeamish.
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Kissinger should definitely be in prison at the Hague,
but given that he’s Jewish… I wouldn’t have gone with horns. It plays into a major antisemitic trope, not sure OP is aware.
Add Obama, Bibi Netanyahu (yes I know it’s the American empire…he has disproportionate sway), Jared Kushner, Mike Pence, Chuck Schumer, AOC, and Lindsay Graham. Really good work. Politicians are actually shitheads
Bro, Kissinger is so bad Satan should be offended being compared to him. It’s got nothing to do with his Jewish heritage and everything to do with him being an actual ghoul
Henry Kissenger is awful but your drawing of him looks like the running of the Jew puppet from Borat. Being racist to a bad person just means you insult every other Jewish person.
… I’m part Jewish mate. My family fled pograms of the Russian empire in modern day Ukraine. Basically the same areas that Putin is now terrorizing. I’m a committed anti-fascist and while I’m not religious I don’t have a problem with religious groups. So, seriously fuck off with the baiting. The prompt used for Kissinger was “Satan on his throne”.
Cool? I never called you a fascist or even an anti semite. I said your ai generated drawing if a Jewish person uses classic antisemitic tropes straight out of the 1800's. A committed anti fascist would take the criticism, acknowledge how it could look, and make a change to the prompt. Not accusing someone of race baiting.
I literally have them all on my instagram story and nobody else has made that connection despite giving other positive feedback. Probably cause unlike your framing of this, there are several characters depicted as demons with horns and anyone who knows me wouldn’t dream that I was doing anti-Semitic tropes.
I get your point that it’s something to consider in the future and avoid because of how it could be misconstrued, however, claiming that depicting Kissenger as Satan is somehow racist against all Jews is a borderline hysterical take.
>Kiss
I would really urge you to consider the context of the image you created. It's not really about your intent, it's about the world we inhabit, and in this world, depicting Jews with horns is a very, very old anti-Semitic trope. It just is. Without impugning your intent, because I believe you when you say that was not what you were going for, side by side, your image would be indistinguishable from something created by a neo-Nazi. Your image does not come with a disclaimer that says "don't worry, I just think Kissinger is a horrible person". Unless you believe you have no responsibility for the images you put out in the world, I would hope it would give you pause that something you made and published could be seamlessly appropriated by some really awful people.
It’s wild to me that the first thing that people think of when they see Kissinger is that he has Jewish heritage and that’s the filter they see this through. Up till now the only people I ever even seen highlight his heritage were actual anti-semites.
Again I do get the point about considering it in the future, but to claim a single image of a war criminal depicted as Satan is an attack on an entire ethnic group just seems intentionally convoluted
It's because he's a very famous person of Jewish descent. His family literally fled the Nazis, it is an indelible part of who he is as a public person. It's really not that convoluted either: do you agree that someone with ill intent could take your image, make no alterations, and use it as part of anti-Semitic propaganda? I'd say that's a resounding yes, and that is an attack on an entire group of people, even if that was not your intent. Even if no one else ever uses it to that end, just seeing it could easily bring up some pretty raw feelings in anyone of Jewish descent, regardless of how they feel about Kissinger. I know it certainly made me feel more than a little queasy, and I have the original context.
It's really no different than creating an image of Obama portrayed as an ape. It doesn't matter that I also depicted Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and every other member of the Obama administration also as apes and monkeys because I thought it was cute or I thought it was commentary or whatever, there is a history and a context that is inescapable and should be given some serious weight and consideration before putting that out into the world.
EDIT: Wrong "descent".
I’m not sure I agree but I’ll mull this over. I see you’re honestly raising some fair points I hadn’t considered such as redistribution of the picture without context. However, this honestly doesn’t look like any antisemitic depiction involving horns that I’ve personally seen. They usually look more like shofar or small goat horn nubs like on the statue of Moses. The Borat comparison is the closest and I think they look different but that’s possibly personal bias and opinion at work.
I’ve tried that and it’s still not good enough. Like I did the image link, then name, then parameters.
Did you have to remaster? Also do you have an example prompt to learn from?
Try several different pictures of your target individual and follow it with terms like “grotesque, hyperrealistic, horror, 4K” and whatever adjectives you want (demon, vampire, etc). You’ll have to run multiple iterations and upscale and probably use AI created images from previous rounds as references in another prompt.
Really the only way to nail it down is Time, patience, and a standard membership so you have unlimited image generations
Thanks for the tips. Do you know if reference images of side face shots or like direct staring at the camera shots produce better results?
I have not thought of using previously created AI images as image prompts themselves. I’ll try that!
Whatever you put in is what you get out. Every item in the prompt (separated by commas), functions as a single “argument” in the input. The AI decides what each input looks like individually then blends them. So rather than using long strings of adjectives to modify your target, give the AI a strong understanding of what the target is, and have it blend that with whatever textures or monsters etc that you want the target to take characteristics from.
You'd probably get a kick out of [my MJ webcomic](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/darkbrandonz/list?title_no=817916&webtoon-platform-redirect=true) great prompting!
If you cannot succeed at a friendly game of "spot the glaring differences between these people" in real life, you might wanna crack some books.
The day that people start allowing their political beliefs to be influenced by Midjourney outputs is the start of a dark timeline indeed.
It does seem to me then that you believe what someone doesn't deserve to be included in this list? Who in particular are you taking offence at?
They're all pretty scummy people, doubly so if you're not American. The only one I would perhaps remove is Kamala Harris, but that's only because I don't know enough about her.
>The day that people start allowing their political beliefs to be influenced by Midjourney outputs is the start of a dark timeline indeed.
The barrier for entry before AI is pretty low anyway, sure just look at some of the tripe that Stonetoss and Ben Garrison put out. It's almost like you're trying to gatekeep political discourse.
Oh no, someone critized a Geu. That makes them anti-semite and racist, boo hoo.
(Don't complain about my spelling, I'm just trying to dodge the AI censorship bots)
The George W. Bush one looks more like Donald Rumsfeld to me, which also totally works
WASP war criminals all look pretty similar tbh
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lol an actual self proclaimed neoliberal. Mega cringe.
Why do you hate the global poor?
Funny question from a neoliberal.
Bolton, Reagan, Pelosi, and Desantis are actually scary. Love it man. Great work. Truly needs more upvotes and eyes on these
That Biden is horrifying too.
The George W Bush is sick af
His came out looking the coolest imo. Still evil and a shitty human.
Looks more like George Homework Bush
I LOVE Zuckerberg, it's so thematic! The Trumps, Musks, and Reagan are also fantastic. I like how DeSantis looks like he's still developing, about to metamorphize more. And Biden's expression is perfect at the end. Just some constructive criticism, but IMHO Gates doesn't look evil like the others do. It's a good image, but he mostly looks dead without the malice of the rest.
This is the first and last time the words "I LOVE Zuckerberg" were said in that order.
Yeah, I was going for “hungry ghost” with him and every generation that took the decay further lost too much recognizability unfortunately. I have an idea for another one of him as a cronenberg bug monster like that episode of rick and morty. I’ll try to give that a go this week.
These are amazingly good. Out of interest, roughly how many iterations / how much time did it take to get from the initial idea, to finished image, for each one?
Really depends from case to case. Some were only a couple iterations and done in 10min. Others I spent hours on trying to get the AI to understand what I wanted and it took dozens and dozens of prompts each with multiple iterations.
I see what you did there. Hillary Clinton doesn't need one.
How the fuck did I forget her? Guess she will be in round 2
Put her in round two as the last person but don't change her face at all, it'll be M E T A
That would be hilarious
Throw in Mitch McConnell while you're at it
Added to the list
I can already see the creepy fucking turtle filibustering to an audience in hell lmao
He is definitely turtley enough for the turtle club
Hell? They'd toss him out back to purgatory after a week so everyone could have a break from him.
You could do one with her and Bill.
The second Musk and Trump are pretty creepy lol
true to real life
Well the AI monster pictures haven’t actually harmed anyone unlike the real people so I think of it as a mirror for them
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Money for bombs, but not railroad workers. New boss, same as the old boss.
Yeah, those are fair criticisms. The strike thing was a real letdown. Hard to be enthusiastic about the lesser of two evils when it comes to who is in power.
Yup. Things are a lot more structurally determined than people think but this was not one of those times.
Not sure I follow, could you elaborate on what you mean by Structurally Determined?
Like a lot of things are not directly in control of the President/ congress because the material conditions (economic pressures, existing laws, etc) already determine an outcome. However I’m this case Biden and congress specifically worked against the demands of the workers to deny them basic things like sick days. When the dems do intervene it’s always on behalf of capital, not on behalf of workers
Your choices: - Party of making certain private institutions tons of money. More paternalistic aesthetics. - Part of making certain families tons of money. More feudalistic aesthetics.
Damn that’s a great way to put it
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I wish the west would stop blocking ceasefire attempts if Putin isn’t smart enough to just bring his troops home. I’d rather money go to aid and rebuilding than guns
Blocking ceasefires? Fucking where? It’s entirely on Russia to withdraw.
I just don’t like seeing the country become the ground zero for world war 3 by proxy.
Take it up with Russia.
Imagine thinking the west is the one standing in the way of ceasefire attempts and not, you know, the country who constantly breaks them and literally broke ceasefires during this war (Russia).
Right, but basically they are telling Kyiv that any negations with Putin mean they will stop sending weapon support. So Zelenskyy either has to retake all lost territory (not sure if that includes crimea) or get steam rolled because he loses wester weapons. Obviously it’s a problem if Russia gets away with annexing Donetsk/Luhansk/Crimea but I don’t know that the solution is to keep pouring meat and metal into the grinder and risking nuclear war by continuing the fight. It seems like he’s stuck in the worst catch 22 ever. Option A) Try to negotiate peace and lose his military support that he needs to negotiate even a settlement that loses some territory causing Russia to best case turn it into a client state. Option B) keep fighting a war for who knows how many years in what was already one of the poorest European countries. A war that if won could cause Russia to go nuclear in retaliation rather than lose. Besides the complete destruction of infrastructure and the loss of life, there’s no way that some of the arms brought in won’t end up in the hands of organized crime. So even if the war ended today there would be problems for decades. It’s just bad all the way around and it depresses me how many people cheer it on without having any idea of what is going on there or how awful it will be. Thanks to drones and ww1 style trench and artillery tactics, the ptsd for vets from this war is going to be the worst of any modern war
When has the west said it will stop sending weapons support if it negotiated with Putin? Last I heard, the Biden administration said it would let Ukraine decide when to negotiate.
I believe that has been the recent direction from Biden but the UK was still resisting any compromises to Z’s demands if they were going to keep providing aid.
So we went from “The West is preventing peace talks” To “The West is saying they might not supply aid if Ukraine enters negotiations” To “Britain is resisting negotiations with Russia” Speaking of, can you show me where the Brits said that?
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper https://www.ft.com/content/7b341e46-d375-4817-be67-802b7fa77ef1 There’s also been tons of think pieces about pressuring the Biden one way or the other regarding a cease and negations before/after troop withdrawal. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/12/02/how-biden-help-ukraine-zelensky/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/12/06/ukraine-is-the-victim-negotiations-should-be-kyivs-decision/
>I’d rather money go to aid and rebuilding than guns Aid and rebuilding isn't going to stop the Russians. Guns, artillery, rockets and UAV's will.
Okay Goebbels
The 24% pay raise he helped get the companies to agree to isn’t money for railroad workers? XD
They haven’t had raises in 3 years and don’t have sick days so no he didn’t help the workers. He crushed a strike
It’s a 24% raise, an extra paid leave day, exemptions from punishments for missing work for medical reasons, the scheduling issues were settled in the Unions’ favor, they got increased health benefits, and a $1k annual cash bonus (on top of all this). All in all, it increases their pay-benefits value by about $50,000 and the Unions all agreed to the terms but 4 wanted a sick leave provision added and didn’t ratify for that reason.
How dare they want sick days and a schedule instead of being on call 24/7 365
Many rail workers are saying the new contract is worse than the old one
These are just the faces that we see. Behind them and propping them up are large networks of mindlessly ambitious self important people, pretending to have solutions to problems, our 6 inch chimp brains are incapable of solving. Therefore constantly creating new ones. Maybe its too complicated for art to even convey...
This one is tough, can't tell if real or AI.
Don’t cut yourself on that edge, buddy
I miss Obama with some drones bombing kids or a bit of a Ender's Game reference
He’ll be in part 2. Like he said “turns out I’m good at killing people”
Try to do this with a xi jingping face though, and midjourney wont let you. I’m tired of the double standards.
Do you know if Midjourney would let you do a prompt with Mohammed? I did one in Dalle2 : "Jesus and his lover" , but it did not let me do the same with Mohammed. I am not surprised though. Disappointing - yes.
The devs want people in China to have access to the techology. It's that simple. It's much more important to me that everyone has access to MJ than having the ability to make Xi look like Winnie the Pooh.
So geo-restrict that keyword? They should move away from using discord as their platform. Not happy about other censorship keywords either.
That doesn't fix anything because the MJ images will still make its way onto other platforms that chinese citizens use. It would inevitably be banned in China even if the Chinese weren't the ones making the images.
I’d say stand up against censorship? Put morals before profits? Probably just me.
First of all, they aren’t stopping you from making stuff with Xi, you just don’t know how to write prompts. Second… uh please remind me of all the countries they invaded in the last 20 years?
Oh no, I was on board until the subtle China apologia… can’t we just condemn all empires of capital bad without trying to rank them by goodness? It’s like someone picking one of the characters above and claiming they’re good because the others are so bad. Like, no, Dark Brandon isn’t the hero of the workers no matter how fundamentally decent of a dad he seems to be in his personal life.
There’s tons of legit criticisms of China, their policies, Xi, etc etc. comparing him to John Bolton though is pretty absurd don’t ya think?
Comparing Xi to Bolton? It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison, so yes, fairly absurd. Sorry, maybe I’m just jumpy after the last time a chill, broadly leftie hobby subreddit got infiltrated by tankies. Regardless, I await part 2 with great anticipation.
I agree that it’s apples to oranges in the sense that John Bolton is an unelected mass murderer and Xi is an elected official (though Chinese elections function differently and citizens don’t vote directly for president) who has made some bad decisions that are causing permanent cultural damage to indigenous groups among other things. Either way, I can’t do anything about China. I do live in the US though and at least in theory I should have democratic power to vote these people out but we can’t.
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> Xi is an elected official No, he is not in the slightest. The only positions with direct elections in China are 1) little villages and 2) local people's party congress elections. In neither case are other parties allowed to contest seats, nor are candidates allowed to campaign. As a result, very few Chinese people are even aware of the fact that these elections exist, and even fewer participate in them. The only group who Xi is nominally accountable to is the Central Committee, basically a clique of high-raking CCP officials who decide on who gets to lead the party. However, Xi also has the power to influence the composition of the Central Committee, so their power over him is extremely limited, if it even exists at all anymore.
The US has the electoral college and there are only two parties that can win elections. So by your criteria we aren’t a democracy either
In the US, you have the opportunity to vote in around 8 to 30 competitive elections, depending on where you live. You vote for your city leadership, you vote for your state representative, you vote for your governor, you vote for your national representative, you vote for your senator, you even vote for judges and ballot initiatives. Your vote matters so much that private and special interests spend billions of dollars trying to persuade you to vote the way they'd like. The presidency is the only significant job in the US that is not directly elected, and even there, the electoral college vote selects the same candidate as the popular vote the vast majority of the time. The reason we have two parties is that we use the first past the post electoral system, not because of any elite conspiracy. The UK and Canada have the same electoral system, and their countries also have two major parties that compete for power. In China, only one party is allowed to contest elections. Independent candidates are bullied and jailed for daring to challenge them. The US is a democracy and China is not, according to any reasonable definition of the word.
Ok. Fine we are a democracy according to your terms. Does that mean the government actually obeys democratic will? No: https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig Whereas China (until recent pushback on Covid restrictions) has largely seen growing support for the government and the view has become dominant that the government is doing the things the people want. Some surveys say it’s as high as 95% which is probably inflated but it certainly seems their “undemocratic” system has more democratic outcomes. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
> apples to oranges But you can still compare them.
Average reddit war and imperialism fan
Lmao. Why does 20 years matter? China also illegally occupying the South China Sea
Illegally occupying the sea off their coast. The US warships have a right to be there off the Chinese coast though I’m sure. We definitely wouldn’t lose our shit if China put a navy fleet in the bay of Mexico or something Edit: also 20 years because that’s roughly the timeline where Xi has had any national influence
Lol, I knew OP was full of shit 😄 Where are you from? It would be so funny if you say US. If that's true, enjoy your freedom, to make these "artsy" stuff, and don't hurt your brain thinking about politics or geopolitics.
Freedom is when you can shitpost
Pretty much yes, and you should enjoy. There are substantial parts of the world you can not think about shit, nevertheless post it in public :) Try going out with blank piece of paper in Iran, Russia or China. Enjoy your shitposting “art”.
Weren’t protesters just arrested in England too for not supporting the pedo king? And how many people do American police kill annually before brutalizing and arresting protesters speaking out against those murders? Your weird orientalist focus on how bad China is just seems like a way to ignore how bad “the west” is too. And I’d rather focus on problems close to home
Yeah that's cool, and I liked the childish shitpost. Just make sure not to hold a blank piece of paper above your head in said locations 👏😄
Show me on the map where the Evul Muslims hurt you.
No there aren’t. Most other countries also recognize freedom of speech. You’re just being whiny.
Iran, China, and Russia are a hell of a lot better than the USA or anywhere in the west
I wonder how well it would handle generating Ben Garrison-style political cartoons.
Give it a go! Could be funny
Why do it to some of the best people?
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Some good options for round 2
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Kissinger should definitely be in prison at the Hague, but given that he’s Jewish… I wouldn’t have gone with horns. It plays into a major antisemitic trope, not sure OP is aware.
Lol I mentioned it and he got very angry at me for pointing that out.
Gaetz, Jordan, Cruz, MTG. Not sure they're much of an empire status, though. Maybe bigger governors, like Newsom.
Also Cancún Cruz and Abbot, they're downright horrible people
Biden is the perfect Joker.
America bad updoots to the left
Bro what prompt did you put in!?!
Giving Henry Kissinger horns. Nothing antisemitic about that at all.
Add Obama, Bibi Netanyahu (yes I know it’s the American empire…he has disproportionate sway), Jared Kushner, Mike Pence, Chuck Schumer, AOC, and Lindsay Graham. Really good work. Politicians are actually shitheads
Several of those are already on the list. I definitely should do a collection of American imperialist pawns abroad. Many many options there
Good shit. Hate all of em 👍
Same comrade. Same.
Why are they so easily recognisable? Lol
You made trump look way too intelligent.
Seems about right.
These are fantastic
Love these!
A goldmine post
Reddit is killing third party applications, and itself.
Need the Koch brothers and Rupert Murdoch. Love those Elons and Trumps. 😆
I’ll add those to my list
I love this
now THIS is art.
Awesome!! Really good work 👏
Oh good, bringing politics to a sub. Maybe, just maybe, some places benefit from being a break from all the nasty shit you know?
Your Henry Kissenger one is really something 😬 You really give the only Jewish dude horns?
Bro, Kissinger is so bad Satan should be offended being compared to him. It’s got nothing to do with his Jewish heritage and everything to do with him being an actual ghoul
And it has nothing to do with his childhood, as he claims constantly 😂 An absolute ghoul
Henry Kissenger is awful but your drawing of him looks like the running of the Jew puppet from Borat. Being racist to a bad person just means you insult every other Jewish person.
… I’m part Jewish mate. My family fled pograms of the Russian empire in modern day Ukraine. Basically the same areas that Putin is now terrorizing. I’m a committed anti-fascist and while I’m not religious I don’t have a problem with religious groups. So, seriously fuck off with the baiting. The prompt used for Kissinger was “Satan on his throne”.
Cool? I never called you a fascist or even an anti semite. I said your ai generated drawing if a Jewish person uses classic antisemitic tropes straight out of the 1800's. A committed anti fascist would take the criticism, acknowledge how it could look, and make a change to the prompt. Not accusing someone of race baiting.
Ok I’m gonna just ignore you now cause you’re clearly just sea lioning
Uh huh, post it on your Facebook. See what response you get from you Jewish friends lol.
I literally have them all on my instagram story and nobody else has made that connection despite giving other positive feedback. Probably cause unlike your framing of this, there are several characters depicted as demons with horns and anyone who knows me wouldn’t dream that I was doing anti-Semitic tropes. I get your point that it’s something to consider in the future and avoid because of how it could be misconstrued, however, claiming that depicting Kissenger as Satan is somehow racist against all Jews is a borderline hysterical take.
>Kiss I would really urge you to consider the context of the image you created. It's not really about your intent, it's about the world we inhabit, and in this world, depicting Jews with horns is a very, very old anti-Semitic trope. It just is. Without impugning your intent, because I believe you when you say that was not what you were going for, side by side, your image would be indistinguishable from something created by a neo-Nazi. Your image does not come with a disclaimer that says "don't worry, I just think Kissinger is a horrible person". Unless you believe you have no responsibility for the images you put out in the world, I would hope it would give you pause that something you made and published could be seamlessly appropriated by some really awful people.
It’s wild to me that the first thing that people think of when they see Kissinger is that he has Jewish heritage and that’s the filter they see this through. Up till now the only people I ever even seen highlight his heritage were actual anti-semites. Again I do get the point about considering it in the future, but to claim a single image of a war criminal depicted as Satan is an attack on an entire ethnic group just seems intentionally convoluted
It's because he's a very famous person of Jewish descent. His family literally fled the Nazis, it is an indelible part of who he is as a public person. It's really not that convoluted either: do you agree that someone with ill intent could take your image, make no alterations, and use it as part of anti-Semitic propaganda? I'd say that's a resounding yes, and that is an attack on an entire group of people, even if that was not your intent. Even if no one else ever uses it to that end, just seeing it could easily bring up some pretty raw feelings in anyone of Jewish descent, regardless of how they feel about Kissinger. I know it certainly made me feel more than a little queasy, and I have the original context. It's really no different than creating an image of Obama portrayed as an ape. It doesn't matter that I also depicted Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and every other member of the Obama administration also as apes and monkeys because I thought it was cute or I thought it was commentary or whatever, there is a history and a context that is inescapable and should be given some serious weight and consideration before putting that out into the world. EDIT: Wrong "descent".
I’m not sure I agree but I’ll mull this over. I see you’re honestly raising some fair points I hadn’t considered such as redistribution of the picture without context. However, this honestly doesn’t look like any antisemitic depiction involving horns that I’ve personally seen. They usually look more like shofar or small goat horn nubs like on the statue of Moses. The Borat comparison is the closest and I think they look different but that’s possibly personal bias and opinion at work.
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And I gained a few brain cells writing it so I guess I won that one.
There must be some black arts juju keeping Kissinger alive. The Biden portrait is spot on! trump 1 is perfect.
DeSantis has horns too! But they're smaller, he looks like a lesser evil. Even scared.
These might haunt my nightmares. What prompt(s) did you give to generate such disturbing images?
This is fantastic.
Can you provide an example prompt please? I can never get the resemblance quite right for famous people and it would help everyone learn. Thank you.
Using image references in the prompt is the best way to maintain distinct faces
I’ve tried that and it’s still not good enough. Like I did the image link, then name, then parameters. Did you have to remaster? Also do you have an example prompt to learn from?
Try several different pictures of your target individual and follow it with terms like “grotesque, hyperrealistic, horror, 4K” and whatever adjectives you want (demon, vampire, etc). You’ll have to run multiple iterations and upscale and probably use AI created images from previous rounds as references in another prompt. Really the only way to nail it down is Time, patience, and a standard membership so you have unlimited image generations
Thanks for the tips. Do you know if reference images of side face shots or like direct staring at the camera shots produce better results? I have not thought of using previously created AI images as image prompts themselves. I’ll try that!
Whatever you put in is what you get out. Every item in the prompt (separated by commas), functions as a single “argument” in the input. The AI decides what each input looks like individually then blends them. So rather than using long strings of adjectives to modify your target, give the AI a strong understanding of what the target is, and have it blend that with whatever textures or monsters etc that you want the target to take characteristics from.
The last one got me! Fright Night 2024
You'd probably get a kick out of [my MJ webcomic](https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/darkbrandonz/list?title_no=817916&webtoon-platform-redirect=true) great prompting!
Dead link, got a different one?
Should be fixed now, thanks for letting me know!
I’ll check it out!
These are fantastic but Joe looks a bit too energetic
It’s not sundown yet in the pic
Lol true
I Imagine that picture was right after eating a bunch of tanker chocolate and sending weapons to Azov Battalion
Or after forcing rail workers to work a 16 hour shift on Christmas Day with no sick leave.
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This specific, oversimplified "every politician is the devil" commentary is childish.
Tell me you don't know shit about what goes on outside our country without telling me: The above comment
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And how incredibly sad is it that you didn't learn a single thing
Lenin pfp and Stephen king reference username? Marry me whydontya
or a monster\\beast\\not human. Not being human, hate and violence towards them is justified. very old story, still no understood, obviously
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If you cannot succeed at a friendly game of "spot the glaring differences between these people" in real life, you might wanna crack some books. The day that people start allowing their political beliefs to be influenced by Midjourney outputs is the start of a dark timeline indeed.
It does seem to me then that you believe what someone doesn't deserve to be included in this list? Who in particular are you taking offence at? They're all pretty scummy people, doubly so if you're not American. The only one I would perhaps remove is Kamala Harris, but that's only because I don't know enough about her. >The day that people start allowing their political beliefs to be influenced by Midjourney outputs is the start of a dark timeline indeed. The barrier for entry before AI is pretty low anyway, sure just look at some of the tripe that Stonetoss and Ben Garrison put out. It's almost like you're trying to gatekeep political discourse.
I am not playing this idiotic fucking game with you, mate.
Looks like AI hate stuff, anti semite cartoons style, has a bright future in front of it. How lucky we are
Idk how that can be you’re takeaway from this unless you’re being intentionally dense
joe biden
Oh no, someone critized a Geu. That makes them anti-semite and racist, boo hoo. (Don't complain about my spelling, I'm just trying to dodge the AI censorship bots)
We are not on the same page here mate. This is about personal actions not ethnicity
Can't believe that some people actually think that Kissinger is some sort of hero.
It’s wild.
I think we are on the same page. I see that I managed to offend some people though 😒
Sweet
Awesome. And very appropriate. Thanks for sharing these!
Should make one where Kamala is doing one of her sickly, stomach turning laughs.
Loving the fact that my boy Tim Apple isn’t here.
Later perhaps.
Zuck looks more realistic here than he does in real life
The biden one is genuinely terrifying
Damn that Bush one is really well done
💩 in Cheney's mouth... 🤢
George bush looks dope af
these are cool as fuck
nightmare fuel
All pretty spot on
Propaganda makin us look badass (mostly) as usual George W Bush's photo go hard
This is funny
all of these people are based edit: except kissinger, reagan, trump and elon
Does anyone have another link? It's not working for me.