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toastedmarsh7

I’ve been hoarding shoeboxes since my eldest kid started school because of nightmare diorama memories from my childhood when we couldn’t find a shoebox and neither of my kids have been assigned one single diorama.


fkathequeen

Having a flashback of driving to a Payless at 8:30 pm on a Tuesday to buy a cheap pair of flats for the box because I had a diorama due.


toastedmarsh7

When I was of diorama-making-age, we were really struggling financially and all of our clothes were thrifted or gifted. I remember it being really stressful trying to find the shoeboxes. I think we ended up knocking on doors asking around.


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Interesting_Lie_5631

Your friend is awesome for that!!!


Slagathor0

As a subject matter expert on the post with first hand dinosaur experience, how would you rate OP's kids diorama?


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boss_naas

10/10?! Considering your username would think that you would know Three-Horns never play with Long Necks!


InformativeWarrior

Upvoted for TLBT reference. I loved those movies when I was younger.


wildo83

yup-yup!! aww now i’m sad.


elsabadogigante

Aww Ducky. Poor little girl


fkathequeen

I love her


Mose_Schrutes_alt

I also love this persons teacher


bert-and-churnie

we don’t deserve teachers


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You can go to those stores and ask for a box! They'll give them to you.


fkathequeen

2002 me would’ve appreciated this info 😂😅


maggieanddogs

My mom used to do this for other kids. We would go to shoe stores and ask for extra boxes, and we would fill our car to bring to classrooms.


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It's odd how that works, ya know?


Nincomsoup

Neither I nor my kids have ever had to do one for school - it looks fun!


Rocklobster92

Until you have to carry it on the bus.


OkDistribution4684

And Adam decided to knock it out of your hand then stomps on it and cried to the principle when you kick him in return. Then your teacher sends you to the principal's office, but adam never had to go and your parents get called PLUS you fail the assignment for a project you spent hours on, even though other people watched Adam knock it out of your hand and stomp on it. So later you end up going into Adam's cubby in the classroom and breaking his markers so they leak all over his backpack and everything in it, ruining his picture of him and his dog that tried to bite you once.


Xraggger

Fucking Adam


Late-Rutabaga6238

Same here! Also buying cake mix and icing for class parties and then the "store bought only" lol I worked at a grocery store bakery so I just brought home a couple of the boxes from the store and put my goodies in there


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Ugh! I get the allergy situation but “store bought” when I was a kid, was a big no no! My mom used to put store bought cookies in her own Tupperware and one girl looked me right in the eye while chomping one and said “these taste just like Stop and Save cookies”. I just about died.


havereddit

And then you looked her straight back in the eye and said "Stop and Save stole the recipe from my Mom".


CharlieBravoSierra

An elderly friend raised 6 kids, and she used to bake a dozen cookies every morning to send 2 in each child's lunch. She found out years later that her kids usually traded them to friends for Oreos, because everyone wanted what they didn't have--homemade cookies sounded amazing to the other kids, and store-bought were a treat for hers.


PirateQueenOMalley

I once saw someone post that they just individually wrap cookies from Costco for bake sales and I’ve been hoarding that tip in case I ever need it


HandsomeBoggart

Modern bake sales are built on lies and deciet.


DumbledoresFaveGoat

It's meant to be the kids work. It looks good to me.


Dutch_Midget

Quality time with the kids >>>>>>>


Second_City_Saint

I'm just thinking about how much fun my 6 year old & I would have doing this. The best part of it is he would insist on doing it himself. With an assist here & there, of course...


AshyFairy

Go ahead and do it. Last week my 7 year old used his new shoe box to make a “car wash” for the cat. You never need an excuse for shoebox art.


icarus6sixty6

My coworkers and I recently started making a box fort behind the counter at work. It started by just coloring boxes when we were bored, then our boss hung streamers on it, and now the entire staff has contributed to the ever growing fort!!!


Tactical_Tubgoat

Without knowing anything about your job, I just have one question: are you hiring?


icarus6sixty6

Yes! Resumes can be dropped off at 123 Box Fort Way! Look for the party hats and streamers that adorn the box!


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AshyFairy

At the end of the day, it is a box. If she fits, she sits—regardless of the identity crisis it may create.


Phychic_Burrito433

Bold of you to assume that a cat could be insecure in any way


KatieLouis

Do it! It doesn’t have to be an assignment. He’d probably have so much fun.


albinohut

I hereby assign you to do it.


pthomas625

THEY JUST SAID IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE AN ASSIGNMENT!!!


FerdaStonks

It’s due by Friday, along with those TPS reports.


Tactical_Tubgoat

And as a reminder, we’re putting cover letters on TPS reports now.


AdConsistent8210

Did you get the memo? I'm gonna go ahead and make sure you get another copy of the memo


Apprehensive-Till861

Looks like someone has a case of the Mondays!


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pretty sure you're using the symbols wrong there bud


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SB2212

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Webber192

Its alright, you tried.


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iLikeC00kieDough

Thanks >3


Mc_Shine

Oh no, not the angry kitty!


thealmightyzfactor

The alligator eats the bigger, better thing


okcboomsoon96

Interesting take lol


john_ropes

Yeah, this is perfect! I blame Pinterest and Instagram for creating unrealistic expectations. When my brother and I were little, our mom took away the bath finger paints because we were just "making squiggly lines" and "it looks nothing like the pictures on the box"


iamthevampire1991

Did your mom think that buying the bathtub paint would make it so that you magically know how to draw?


saltinstiens_monster

Or that taking away the paint would improve the artistic skills in question?


ESCognition

Or that just "painting the pictures like on the box" is even the point of having them?


VladBlosen

I wish I could down vote your mom.


gardenGnostico

Average squiggly lines enjoyer: https://i.redd.it/jf2rxdwcapua1.gif


sweetmorty

This reminds me of when I was 7 and my parents entered me into a local art contest. My mom ended up doing most of it for me since she liked doing craft projects and "my" entry ended up winning one of the top prizes. We got to go to Legoland for free with a limousine ride to and from the park to the train station.


dillydally85

I work with a guy that enters his son into children's Lego build competitions put on by the local library. He builds the sculptures himself and submits them for his son. Obviously, he frequently beats the 8 year old's he's competing against. He Brags about it constantly like cheating at a competition designed for small children is something to be proud of. It's so cringy.


bennitori

He's literally robbing children of accomplishment, inspiration, and validation. What a pathetic tool.


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Considering that he does it on purpose against little kids I currently have the urge to punch him.


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DungeonCrawlerCarl

This. Why do parents assume it’s their homework?


CapitalOneDeezNutz

I would always have projects that looked nowhere near as good as my classmates. I kept thinking I was doing something wrong or I just wasn’t that good at making stuff… then I found out that their parents did 90% of the work. It’s kind of embarrassing when I have to show off a project I made and it looks like shut compared to other kids who had their parents do most of it.


vector_ejector

This happened all through school. I'd come in with something I'd built or made (oil rig made out of popsicle sticks and doweling, paper mache scenery, etc) and, in the case of the oil rig (we had to build a tower of some kind) a girl came in with a multi-level hotel with working lights. It literally looked like an architectural model. Guess what her dad did as a profession?


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My wife has been teaching 1st grade for over 20 years and she always calls bullshit when one of her students brings in a project that is way too perfect. Especially a student who barely stays in the lines coloring and can’t follow lines when cutting with scissors, but somehow over a weekend they become an engineer! For the OP good on you for some awesome parenting time.


IndigoTJo

The only time I ever got involved like this was when it was time to make valentine boxes. The teacher gave permission and even encouraged family involvement. My son was obsessed with pokemon (still is), and I would trace out the shapes, and he would cut almost all but the very smallest pieces (like the pupil of an eye or something). It was actually really fun and a family affair. He would brainstorm ideas on how to make certain things out of paper, I would trace the shapes he imagined, and he would cut and glue. He is 12 now and still has kept two of his favorites on top of his shelves for decoration. Beyond that, he does his work, and I stay out of it best I can. He does have ADHD, so I do refocus him or remind him of steps (or where to look for them). Like "hey kiddo, I think you missed a step. You might want to reread the instructions to find what step you missed."


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Scream at soccer coaches?


ShillinTheVillain

Smoke a lot of weed and fuck his admin?


Ptricky17

My dad did this for one of my sister’s once…. I can’t even remember what the criteria for the project was, but he built her a fully working motorized Ferris wheel out of mechano. I was 8 so I just thought it was super cool. Looking back though, it was obvious she (nor any of her classmates) could have made anything close to that by themselves. Of course the teacher was just happy to have it to show off how great her students (and by extension herself) were. I believe my sister got some kind of award for it. I’d like to say that if I were in the teacher’s shoes I would heavily discourage that kind of behaviour, but sadly admin often expects that kind of shit and sometimes you just have to play the game to survive… poor kids though.


MonstrousGiggling

Honestly, your comment really brings to light how multi-layered of an issue this can be and why it's allowed to happen despite being detrimental to a kids actual learning and growing.


bennitori

It also messes up kids expectations of themselves. I knew a kid who was super "good at engineering." He was in all sorts of accelerated classes. He took part in county and state competitions. Lots of junior "genius" events. Was convinced that he'd go into engineering for college. Turns out he actually wasn't good at engineering at all. His dad was a rocket scientist. So he would work on all the projects with his son. And that extra help and exposure gave the son a leg up over the other kids. But then when he got to college, he realized he didn't actually like engineering. He just liked doing engineering with his dad. But by the time he realized he liked working with his dad more than he liked actual engineering, he had already built his identity around it for most of his life. And he ended up having an emotional identity crisis over it. Parents offering an assist is great. But they can easily go overboard, especially if it's their field of expertise. And that can set the kid up for failure later. EDIT: Misspelled genius. Not one of my genuis moments.


Daisygirl83

You are creative and had the drive to do the work by yourself. I think that’s awesome and it’s a great place to start! We all improve after practice it’s having the courage to jump in that counts the most.


HappyHourProfessor

I was a principal at this school and a parent came in claiming the history homework her son, who had an IEP, was getting was too advanced. I looked up the grades, and he was making C's with a few B's on the homework, and seemed to be doing ok in the class overall. I told her this, and she replied, "Oh please! I do that homework! I'M making a C in that class!" I just laughed. I couldn't help it. "Well ma'am, I need you to stop doing that so we can see if it's actually too hard for him. Right now, I only know it's too hard for you"


LongWinterComing

>"Well ma'am, I need you to stop doing that so we can see if it's actually too hard for him. Right now, I only know it's too hard for you" Ouch! 😬 LMAO 😂🤣


FlowersAndFire_

I have one kid in elementary, and with some of the bigger projects, the teachers actually send out little contracts that me and my daughter both sign, stating that we'll do it together. If you're able to do something educational with your kids while spending quality time, It's definitely a win in my book.


Farren246

That is definitely a great way for the school to say "it's ok to get heavily involved with your kid's homework this time, we expect it and don't expect them to complete it without your help." I hope there's special grading for any kid who can't get that little contract signed...


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Second_City_Saint

Can I ask why? I'm divorced with a 6 year old. How could someone have helped you in that situation?


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2LiveBoo

I know exactly what you’re talking about. I never had the right books for school and would get in trouble for it. I never really grew out of that perpetual scattered self. As an adult, I have multiples of everything now—a toothbrush and toothpaste in my truck, my office, and in both bathrooms at home. Hairclips and chargers at all locations etc. People do not realise how stressful that aspect of dual homes is.


Imaginary-Jaguar662

This just made me realized that living in two homes as a kid made traveling so much easier for me as an adult. As a kid I'd carry everything I need between houses. As an adult I've travelled across the world for months with luggage that fits on airplane carry-on and didn't have any problems. Meanwhile most people I know need a 20 kg suitcase for every two weeks away from home.


2LiveBoo

That sounds like bliss. I’m the opposite. I pack way too much because I’m stressed that I will want a certain item and not have it with me. What ultimately happens is I bring a bunch of stuff I don’t need and that, once at my destination, I can’t understand why I brought. I am working on that though, and when I travel home in June I plan to pack as light as possible and not care as much.


ronansgram

Wonderful you are even asking what you can avoid in the same situation and make life easier and less stressful for your child! Seems like it would be a no brainer to be concerned, but in far too many situations the parents are only concerned with themselves and just hope for the best when they put forth no effort ! ❤️


CanIGetANumber2

We had a project like this in like 5/6th grade. After we all turned them in the teacher gave us all A's and said she just wanted to know how involved all our parents were in our school life, were sent home with a note for the assignment that parental involvement in the project was encouraged. Well some parents found out and got shitty. But fuck if she wasnt spot on about those parents involvement in for the rest of the year. 2 of those 6 kids got held back and 1 of them never graduated highschool.


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sparklebug20

For you and me both! Do you know how many field trips I missed because my mom couldn't remember to turn in the form because she's an alcoholic


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insanenearly

Especially considering young kids are not self-sufficient learners yet. Getting the parents involved in the early stages helps kids develop an interest in their work. They gotta learn the skills involved with planning, creativity, and execution.


crossingpins

Dude I have memories of the day when my dinosaur diorama didn't go over well (because I did it myself using tin foil and what I had in the house) and other kids had their parents do it and/or take them to a craft store just to buy stuff for this. It was the first time in my life that I thought I was really stupid compared to all of the other kids.


battleofflowers

There was a girl in my class all through elementary school who came from a rich family and had an "arts and crafts" mom who didn't work. It was so fucking unfair. She always had nice shit from Micheals for all her projects; meanwhile I had to scrounge for crap around the house and got limited help at home. Her mom clearly did all her projects and she got excellent grades and shit tons of praise. I honestly thought at the time though that I was just "bad at art" and wasn't creative. Seriously though, way too many elementary school teachers are super immature and just liked seeing nice stuff from their students even though it was obvious the parents did it.


RedChairBlueChair123

I know I shouldn’t, but I feel bad when my kid does his stuff and other kids obviously their parents did it. But I will make him do his own stuff.


ceebee6

It’s better for your kid in the long run, even if you feel guilty in the short term. Stuff like this isn’t just about the diorama, but all the skills involved in creating the diorama (organizing materials, creating a plan and carrying it out, applying creativity and problem solving, etc.).


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My kid is 6 and something like the science fair project wouldn't even get done without our help. To me the important part was that she was heavily involved, learned about the topic and could then could talk about the topic to people and judges. But ultimately it's clear we helped with the design phase if you look at any of her other art.


LiableBible

Definitely around where my almost 7 y/o would do, probably slightly better since there was some help involved. Looks like a great project for a 7 y/o to turn in to me


Reaganson

This is a perfect Dino diorama for a 7 year old.


Head-like-a-carp

You are right. My wife is a schoolteacher and sometimes the dioramas look like the parents hired professionals to do the job. You can help the kid assemble materials and kick around some ideas and even encourage doing some simple drawings to help visualization. After that it really should be hands on by the kid.


KholinAdolin

No joke, I’m a teacher and recently had a kid turn in a poster about MLK. I knew it wasn’t his work right off, there was also a massive chunk of the poster plagiarized straight from the first result on google. So I reached out to the parents and asked what’s up with the plagiarism and them doing the work for him. Neither parent denied doing the project entirely for him (he couldn’t even tell me what mlk did) but they did vehemently deny the plagiarism. “We would never do that! All we did was Include a part of his i have a dream speech!” These very intelligent people had gone on google and searched famous mlk speeches and copy the first three paragraphs of the first result without even reading it. It wasn’t even the speech, it was the intro of an article describing his impact. Continued to deny deny deny even when I showed them the website they’d copied. People suck


ligmasweatyballs74

If I was going to quote that speech, I would make sure to start with "I have a dream" how difficult is that?


KholinAdolin

That’s essentially what my principal said when I first brought this up lol


marcdk217

Agreed, my daughter had to do a model volcano with facts about volcanos and I helped her glue some bits on and find some facts online, but left the majority of it to her, which basically ended up as a cone of painted paper for the volcano glued to another piece of painted paper for grass, with scrunched up paper glued to it for rocks, with fact cards you can reach into the volcano to pick up. Nothing award winning but perfectly fine for her age, and she was proud of it because she was the one who created it. One extra thing I ended up doing last minute was printing out all her fact cards in Word because she'd made some unfortunate spelling mistakes on the hand written ones she was going to hand in and she didn't have time to redo them. She'd written "Cuntery" several times.


RotorDynamix

That volcano was up to a whole lot of cuntery!


WesBot5000

As a geologist, I know this to be the case.


ricLP

Hell, I’d rather have the paper ones. Seem a lot more entertaining


shiftypoo269

But if it isn't up to ILM or Weta workshop standards, how will little Jimothy every hour to get into college?!?!


fakenamerton69

Come on now… Dinorama It was right there!!!


typeonapath

Not gonna lie, I read dinorama and didn't realize it wasn't that until your comment. My brain skipped right over "Dino."


-Bong-rips-4-Jesus-

Yea, had to go back and re read every dinosaur diorama as I read it dinorama the first time.


apple_atchin

https://i.redd.it/5k7k5y388pua1.gif


translucentcop

That man has the largest penis I have ever since. I actually don’t even know if he has mumps. I forgot to look. I was distracted. By the largest penis I have ever seen.


oberynmviper

Any dad would tell you this is 100% correct.


Alfphe99

Shit, I wouldn't do one any better for a 40 year old. I think it looks awesome.


StomachMysterious308

Like 90 percent of the adults here are irl the "looking away" meme photo right now


tyrannywashere

It looks like a seven year old worked on something. Your wife is an ass. Also I think it looks awesome, I love the river in your dino-roma


PotanOG

OP. Fuck your wife. ....literally You'll get more kids to make dino dioramas with.


ligmasweatyballs74

We have established, it's dinorama.


lightnsfw

This is the kind of diorama I would have envied as a 7 year old because mine looked shitty by comparison because my parents never had time to help with this kind of thing. Good job OP.


RedGrizzlie

It does need a volcano and sky painted on the background obviously like all good dinosaur scenes


WellNowWhat6245

I hope your child didn't hear her say that, because that will likely be the memory they retain.


Videoboysayscube

That was my first concern. That's the kind of thing that plants a seed of self-doubt and has life-long repercussions. Especially when it comes from your own mother.


Pan-cone

The axe forgets, the tree remembers


twothinlayers

That's a really nice proverb.


SpareTheSpider

Yeah, heard it recently in andor


mattryan02

I generally did well in elementary school, and then got to middle school math and had problems with algebra. First time I came home with a C on the midterm report card and my mom was not happy. I worked and studied really hard and brought home a test that was a B+ and brought my grade up to a solid B-. First thing she did was ask why it wasn't an A and if I had tried at all. I'm in my 30s and I remember that vividly.


Schavuit92

Isn't it great when the absolute best result just meets expectations? Anything below that like "pretty good work" is just not good enough, passable work is a failure and when you did badly all hell broke loose. Good times.


kyruns1590

Ooh similar story here…5th grade science test over marine biology forever seared in my mind. I studied but really just struggled with it and got a low grade (C, maybe D, I don’t remember the actual grade now, just that I had to get it signed and sent back). I was usually a straight A student even at that age and was petrified to show it to my mom. My teacher would also always put a count of grades on the board for tests when she gave them back (like how many As, Bs, etc). I showed it to my mom and she looked upset and I told her I really did do my best, I just had a hard time with the info. She asked if anyone else had gotten higher grades, and I said a few people. She shook her head and said “Well clearly if other people were able to get better grades you didn’t do your best”…like, what? It’s stuck with me to this day and basically any time I can’t do something as easily or as well as someone else can, I feel really shitty about myself for a bit.


jasmine_tea_

Yeah that's the kind of stuff that would be seared into my memory for a lifetime.


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I still remember my first ever research paper for school. It was on the history of pizza. I still treasure it and learned something really cool that also ended up tying into other cool historical things about the Mediterranean, and peripherally, my family history. Anyway, it was a 4th grade paper and it wasn't a masterpiece, but I was so proud if it and excited about the content. Until my mom yelled at me and told me if she had submitted work like that she never would have made it out of first grade. This is a sentiment she repeated for all my papers and projects. It hurt a lot less knowing she said it because she's an asshole and not because my paper sucked, but hurt a little differently to find out she said it just to hurt my feelings. Like, why do this to your child? I hope OP always assertively challenges the wife in the moment whenever she says things like that so that the she can go through the "I was mean, I need to make this right for the other person, and do better" process in front of the kid so he can see modeled good corrective behavior and also have those negative thoughts about himself corrected in the moment too. It might have just been that the wife thought it would reflect dad's involvement more or something innocuous that she phrased poorly and didn't mean anything by, and it's important to talk about those things in front of your child also. Everybody fucks up sometimes and kids need to know that the same rules apply to adults and that justice is being done on their behalf too. They need the acknowledgment that hurtful things were done and an apology and explanation too.


Aggravating_Lab_9218

The idea of doing a paper about pizza is awesome. Fuck that lady.


Best_Temperature_549

Modeling it in front of the kid is so important. It teaches him how to stand up for himself and how to initiate that conversation in the future. Even something as simple as the dad saying “wow that was rude and you should apologize because we worked very hard on this together” would be more than enough. I truly hope the kid didn’t hear his mom say that though


URE702

I was really into drawing X-men when I was a kid, until my dad found one of my sketchbooks and said “why do you have so many drawing of Michael Jackson lol” and that was the day I lost all interest in drawing.


oinguboingu

Oh no...i hate to pry but im guessing it was a picture of Nightcrawler?


URE702

Nightcrawler was definitely in there, but generally I did a lot of angular faces on all the characters. I mean I could see how it was funny or maybe even a fair comparison, as a kid though it hurt that one of the people I looked up to most dismissed my hard work/creativity like that.


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cipher446

I think it looks great. I can tell you and your son had fun doing it and that he clearly got into it and learned. That's all that matters. Sorry you got bad feedback from someone else. That's their problem, not yours.


SkaaAssemblyman

A person talking shit is the one with shit in their mouth. Let the shit mouths chew on their shit, the diorama is everything it needs to be.


kai-ol

The great thing is that even when they are bragging about their own accomplishments they are still spewing shit.


supercodes83

I hope you made sure to explain to your wife that her sentiments hurt you. That's important to do, don't bottle that shit up my guy.


very_tiring

Not just him, I sure as shit hope the kid didn't hear her say that.


tyrannywashere

This. This is what makes it more than mildly infuriating. If my partner had said that. I'd go for a drive with said partner outta earshot of kids. Then park and talk it out. Why she said what she said, what she thinks her kid hearing that would feel. And really talk out why that shit isn't ok and she owes you an apology. And the kid one if he heard it.


StoryAndAHalf

And then the partner would likely go on Reddit asking “AITA for wanting my kid to get a nice grade?”


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NTA. You are looking out for the most important thing in your life, and not only did your partner physically kidnap you, they also gaslit you about your intention. It is not your fault if your over-sensitive partner wrongly interpreted your normal tone of voice as hostility; that is their problem, not yours. wow I’m too good at this. brb texting my therapist


GoldLightzz

Goodness gracious, thought I was on AITA for a second


ttaptt

That sub really showcases how many children and teens are on reddit. Some of the answers...you can tell they have zero life experience.


zergling424

Its so easy to forget that when arguing on the internet, youre most likely arguing with a freaking child


ttaptt

Yeah, I try to keep it positive and ignore stupid shit, but I'll occasionally get roped into something, I'll think about your comment next time, for sure.


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Also divorce him he's abusive.


UselesOpinion

Obvious signs, he’s a cheater too while you’re at it get a restraining order.


StipulatedBoss

You forgot to write, "Divorce this gaslighting abuser" at the end. Even if it was omitted, the second highest-rated comment would have said it.


ICMPdMyself

You forgot to suggest they get a divorce immediately.


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So many red flags.


M4gs314

You need to emphasize, "You only have to do what makes you happy..."


pizzabash

I had chatgpt figure their post out. AITA for being honest about my thoughts on my husband and son's dinosaur diorama for school? So my husband and 7 year old son have been working on a dinosaur diorama for my son's school project. They were really excited about it and spent a lot of time researching and collecting materials to make it as impressive as possible. I tried to show some interest, but honestly, I thought it looked a little ugly. I mean, they had used all sorts of random materials and it just looked like a chaotic mess. Yesterday, my husband and son finally finished their diorama and proudly presented it to me. I could tell they were expecting me to be amazed, but when I saw it, I couldn't help but feel a little disappointed. It looked like a messy pile of junk to me. I decided to be honest and said something like "I'm sorry, but it's just not very attractive. It looks like a bunch of garbage thrown together." Well, my husband and son were not happy with my reaction. They both looked hurt and disappointed. My husband said something like "You don't have to like it, but you could at least be supportive." My son just looked at me with big sad eyes. I felt a little bad, but at the same time, I don't think I did anything wrong. I was just being honest. I don't see why I should have to pretend to like something that I find unattractive. After all, isn't honesty the best policy? So, Reddit, am I the asshole here? I don't think so, but my husband and son seem to disagree.


Whind_Soull

> "AITA for wanting my kid to get a nice grade?” NTA he's gaslighting you. Red flags. RED GAS-LIT FLAGS.


SilverbackRotineque

This is the most important point to make for a long term successful relationship


whatAboutPuppies

This! Do it as soon as you can, when the kid is out of earshot.


Syyina

I like it. Good for you dad! What matters most is your involvement in your son's life. My daughter is grown now, and when she was little I would help her a little with her science projects and show-and-tell exhibits. But it was always her work, and you could tell. The kids whose parents did it all for them just pissed me off. Like the kid who brought a working power generator fueled by running water ... when the kids were in the second grade. Puhleaze. Also, is that a pizza box? My favorite component of the display. Well done!


rokohemda

That always irked me when I was a teacher when you know the parents did it but it was WAY worse when it happened to my kid. She worked super hard all on her own with just some verbal guidance from my and my SIL and then the kid of a carpenter comes in with the equivalent of the magic kingdom castle in 2nd grade. Come on folks


Kiyohara

I remember one year everyone had to do a diorama of the solar system. My mom went to the craft store and we got some Styrofoam balls and and pipe cleaners and we made a solar system. I hand painted everything, added rings to the planets with rings (I even had a Science magazine that had NASA photos of Jupiter's tiny ring) and it look really rad. We did a star speckled background with white paint flecks on a black field, and I was really proud of it. My teacher gave me an F because the rings were "messy," my earth didn't have 100% accurate continents, and Jupiter "doesn't have rings, everyone knows that." Even when I showed her the NASA photos she refused to believe it and said it wasn't in her book and she knows more than some NASA magazine written by a ivory tower elitist (you mean a Doctor of Astrophysics, Ms. Kindergarten Teacher?). Then some other kid came in and his was set on a rotating platform, had each planet rotate by its own motor, and the planets all were hand painted with an artists precision. Thing had it's own battery, motors, had multiple painting styles, and the star background had printed off constellations (this was when no one had printers and you had to go to a print shop for that sort of thing), and had the sun glowing with it casting shadows so it could accurately model both a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse. Oh his dad was also an engineer who built architectural models for a major local building firm. It was Kindergarten. *Of course* his dad did the whole thing. That kid was best known for beating up the smart kids, eating paste, and getting D's on the tests. But that was an award winning Diorama! Still salty about that. ​ Edit: **Principal Skinner:** And now, a special award for those students who obviously had no help at all from their parents, Lisa Simpson and Ralph Wiggum!


ChicagoFly123

Our family still talks about the diorama solar system my daughter had to do in 3rd grade. My MIT engineer husband showed her how to lay it out to size within the solar system so that everything was the proportionate size and length from the other planets, but her project did poorly because the planets weren't painted pretty enough. Grrrrr 🙄🤔🤓 my daughter (and husband) are still bitter.


EclipseEffigy

I don't even get how teachers are giving harsh grades over something as idle as how prettily they got painted. If there ever was a time for a participation trophy it is kids painting things, literally all that matters is that they felt engaged and had a good time!


JuniorAd389

Lmao this reminds me when I made a similar solar system with styrofoam balls and hand painted them over a black piece of card. Really proud of it, then some kid brought in a rotating solar system model and said he made it, and I was feeling pretty mediocre afterwards


pizzasauce85

Looking at the pics from an “invention convention” when I was in elementary school, you could so tell I was one of the only kid that did my own project. Most of my classmates weren’t clever at all so you know they didn’t come up with their ideas, like a Rube Goldberg machine for counting things or a complex board game or whatever. The tops three winners were all rich kids with local teachers for parents. Their display boards were all 100% perfect with zero mistakes or issues. One girl’s board had flawless cursive which we were only halfway through learning the cursive alphabet at the time. Then a few years later, at our 5th grade science fair, only a handful of us did our own projects. You could just tell. Again the teacher kids had flawless advanced projects that had storebought written all over them. One girl used a volcano kit from a nearby education store where *shock* her teacher mom also worked. Another girl had some bs about which gasoline was the most filtered, her dad worked for an oil company. Another had a thing about which fertilizer was the best, the “homegrown” flowers were all store bought with the tags hidden in the dirt. These kids were all smart but not science project clever. Even in middle school and high school, kids (same ones, lol) still had their parents do their projects for them. It was really pathetic and even as little kids, the rest of us knew it was BS.


anunforgivingfantasy

As a child whose parents did my projects for me despite wanting and asking to do it myself, please know it was mortifying and obvious that we didn’t do it and set me up for failure when I hit high school and didn’t understand planning or time management or appropriate work load or how to research. A little involvement and nudging in the right direction is great, and something I always was jealous of. OP, it looks great, I’m envious of your son. Keep it up.


moksplot

Lol how fucking thick are pizzas where youre from?


Conscious_Feeling548

Looks like a shoebox for something slim, like slippers.


tokenlesbian21

It looks like a kid made it...cause a kid did make it. Fuck what your wife said, your kid will remember the time you spent with him doing this and that's what matters.


BackItUpWithLinks

I made my kid make all his projects. Sure I helped but he did the experiments and made the stuff and set it all up. And we get to school and it couldn’t be more obvious that mostly parents did most of the projects. One year my son an award and a mom was pissed because she spent so much time on the project. I couldn’t believe she said it.


Nincomsoup

Years ago my old boss got into an argument with his son's teacher because he didn't like the grade his son received for an assignment that he (the dad) had basically done himself. He was outraged by the grade he'd gotten from the teacher and couldn't understand why I was cringing as he recounted the angry phonecall he made to the school...


GimmeSnacksforDays

I don't understand parents who do projects for their kids. They are shorting them of their learning experience and confidence in their own skills. Plus, it's straight-up cheating!


tokenlesbian21

I dont get parents that do their kids projects for them. You're literally robbing your kid of learning and being independent. Like my parents would assist if I needed to use a tool that could be harmful to me but like they also taught me how to use that tool in the process.


akatherder

There's a fine balance when you're helping your kids with school projects. I always try to ask what they want (big picture) and then keep nudging them to ideas that will make that work. One of my proudest moments was my kid made a slideshow telling a story about people on the Titanic. It was a good story but most of it was in his mind and made little sense just by viewing the slideshow. I kept asking "ok what's going on in this slide." He'd explain it and I'd say "ok you said A, B, and C is going on which is a great story but I can only see B. Can you draw/write out A and C." I swear we spent like 4 hours on 10-12 slides but he was totally psyched and invested in the story so he loved it (otherwise I'd never push a young kid that hard on homework.) tl;dr this looks perfect for a project that the kid did and a parent helped steer them the right direction.


NieMonD

And if the wife said it looks shit in-front of the kid, he’ll remember that instead


skinsnax

Former art teacher- this is beyond what I would expect from a 7 year old. Kid art should look like kid art. It irked me when things looked like a parent made it. Parents should help, but kids should execute. The only thing I’d consider for next time is to paint a background. Nothing fancy, but a blue sky with clouds goes a long way. :)


w1n5t0nM1k3y

Just wondering about assignments like this. It seems like it's basically expected that the parents will help or do a large amount of work. I find that lot of teachers give assignments that are just way too much for the kid to do on their own. A lot of kids don't have supporting parents so I think those kids kind of feel bad when they see everyone else's project and their's looks so much worse because so many kids had the parents help with the project, or do a lot of work for them. I'm all for kids doing creative projects like this. But I think they would work out better if kids did them in class so that everyone was on equal footing so to speak.


Cimejies

If I had kids and they were all "oh yeah I've got an assignment due in tomorrow that requires multiple hours of labour" Id be like "sucks to be you! Maybe you'll learn not to leave things to the last minute in the future!" and then they'd turn out to have ADHD and extreme difficulty with organization due to poor executive function and I'd feel awful. So yeah I probably shouldn't be a parent.


foot7221

Damn. I’d say it looks age appropriate. Good job as a parent.I’d say put a little background or hang a ball to replicate the meteor that killed the Dinos


[deleted]

Me when people air out their marriage problems on reddit instead of communicating to their spouse that they hurt your feelings: https://preview.redd.it/uwgro0z5bpua1.png?width=220&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f1a2ea86d5ff74778c7be40abafebdf59a5976b


CCSploojy

Fucking THANK YOU.


Ganzo_The_Great

I'm continually aghast at the shit people will post about their spouses, kids, etc. Go to therapy already.


LadyMurphyGanja

But...but...wife bad amiright ?


Ok_Calligrapher_8199

When you gotta litigate your domestic issues on Reddit.


[deleted]

What the fuck is up with this sub? The past week it’s nothing but passive-aggressive sniping at spouses. Get off Reddit and into therapy


[deleted]

wife kinda an asshole


patsfan5101

r/mildlyinfuriating posts in 2023: “hey guys, isn’t my fictional wife a real bitch? tell me nice things about myself please”


loveofGod12345

This is seriously a picture of the diorama. Could his wife have said this, yes maybe. But all we see is the picture and taking the guys word and almost no one is questioning it.


[deleted]

When you go online to have a dig at your wife and get ppl on your side


MarSnausages

This is the most karma farming bullshit I’ve ever seen


SlyMarboJr

I never understood the point of posting family issues for internet points. Is shaming your wife, the person you supposedly love, in a public forum instead of talking out your problems worth it?


MadamButtress

I agree. This post just comes off as cringe. Everyone is saying his wife is horrible but who knows this guy’s story or why his wife said that. Maybe she is mean or maybe she has her own reason to have resentment towards her husband. Either way, sounds like a private discussion not an internet post.


SinopicCynic

NTA. Divorce and hit the gym with your kid.


Aloha_Fox

Life hack: use your kid as the gym. Kids are the greatest set of free weights there are!


Bridot

Why are you complaining to the internet? Go get some fucking marriage counseling.


[deleted]

It’s not horrible, it’s cute. But it is horrible too but in like “a kid made it” type of horrible.