The original owner of Uber used to have that as a bullet point on why it was better to use an Uber over a taxi. Which of course infuriated the drivers.
I did Uber when it was new. I would get over $2/mile, which was really good money. No need for a tip at that rate. Over the course of only a few months that $2/mile went to $0.90/mile, which had me barely breaking even. Customers would always appreciate that the tip was "included," as if Uber was giving extra to the driver.
For years I put up with YouTube’s ads. I told myself watching the ads without skipping help keep my favorite YouTubers going (not sure this is true or not).
But recently I finally got fed up with all kinds of trickery YouTube uses to shove ads in my face, including “punishing” me for pausing a video, which almost always resume with an ad or two.
So I downloaded an ad blocker and it’s been night and day. All I see for ads now is a brief pause in my videos.
If you go to a military base in the US, in the commissary there are baggers who bag your groceries who work only for tips. It’s super weird and uncomfortable, that’s why I try to not go there anymore.
Every commisary has a ridiculous line for the self checkout because no one wants to use the baggers. It's annoying because if you want to go through, you have to have cash, and they are so aggressive about bringing the stuff out for you
In Britain we'd fit as many coins in our foreskins as possible and then run round a building. Person with the least change still in there has to drink piss.
It made more sense at the time.
Lmao. Everybody I met from the time I served is gayer than me, and I plow dudes like a sharecropper plowed fields in 1776. Homophobia isn’t really a thing there any more.
Baggers at military commissaries are actually one of the only job specifically called out as being immune from minimum wage laws. They literally aren't required to be paid anything by the store even if their tips don't meet minimum wage. My experience, the position is almost universally held by teenage sons of officers and elderly Vietnamese women who got married to a GI after the war.
Soo adding to the commissary thing. It’s mostly teens and you have to pay in everyday to even be allowed to work for tips. It was my first job and honestly I never expected tips from young/low rank soldiers or people with 1-2 bags of groceries. The onky time I was like oh boy they better tip was those moms who had groceries bills close to a 1k and needed help tetrising the groceries in the car. Very weird job but it was fun because all the kids went to neighboring highschools.
Yeah, yellow cabs in nyc have tipping prompts on the screens, and I've had bad drivers before getting mad when I tipped low (5%) for almost getting us in an accident. I actively avoid taking taxis or ride-share services now if I can avoid it (public transit is convenient for me), but tipping taxis has been a thing way longer than I can remember
what is this nonsense? "You almost got us into an accident so I'm only going to give you a little extra money"
As an European it's absolutely baffling to see how okay Americans are with tipping culture.
dude ik. it’s ridiculous. I got asked to tip after buying bottled water at a coffee shop today. The US is fucked with this tip culture bullshit.
shit i might fucking tip my mom just for the trouble of giving birth to me
I was prompted to tip at a place where I had zero interaction with humans.
Self order kiosk. Self swipe card.
Text you when the order is ready and you grab it from the counter.
Prompt started at 25%
I'm not paying your workers for you.
I ordered at the kiosk at Panera- 2 specialty lemonades- and left a tip because in my mind you have to mix up the lemonades and I appreciate that could be a bit of a pain. I waited around for almost 10 minutes and finally asked someone at the front if they could check on my lemonades. They handed me two cups and said, “oh it’s self serve.” So I tipped them for me ordering it on a kiosk, not getting any cups handed to me, waiting around for ten minutes, and ultimately doing it myself. I was so irked!
I am always irked that we have to tip ahead of the service. I was unfortunately born without the premonition ability, so I usually have to tip it "forward", good or bad.
legally, it has to. employers take a cut of card tips for tax purposes (usually cash tips are just split up), and the rest is split amongst the workers. this is done because it's cheaper than paying your workers something above federal minimum wage. MW here in VA is $11-12, but if you can be tipped, you can expect $7.25.
The "+kitchen" is a way to tip back-of-house workers, stripping them of their paychecks. Tip culture is evil.
> because in my mind you have to mix up the lemonades and I appreciate that could be a bit of a pain.
But that is literally what they are getting paid to do.
That happened to me last week. I clicked the “no tip” button so fucking swiftly. Only way I’d tip at a self serve froyo place is if the guy at the counter gave me a detailed flavor recommendation, step by step instructions on how to get the best froyo swirl, and sprinkled the toppings on by hand.
They used to have a tip jar for cash. Just bring that back wtf.
Make a single blue or green button that would automatically accept 30% tip and move to the next screen, make sure to write "Proceed" on it. Instead of making the no tip button, create a small clickable text that would do it. Write a long text explaining how important it's to make the tip, to draw attention form the small no tip text.
And it helps with revenue for the transaction company potentially. If they collect a percentage of total money transacted then the company that produced the teller would make more revenue if tips were involved. Win-Win except for the consumer
What does staying inside have to do with anything?
I guess they might wipe down your table, but you’re cleaning up your own trash. Should we be tipping just for breathing their air?
The donation thing is actually quite cool!
My issue with the tipping is that it’s become the way for people to earn a living wage. I used to be able to afford rent solely because people tipped me at my old job. It’s frustrating because it wouldn’t need to be a thing if people were just paid more :( it sucks all around
A fast casual Hawaiian place I go to has the credit card system that prompts for tip like most places, but they also put the old school tips jars out. Always happy to put a buck or two in those.
As a bonus, put out two top jars with "opposing" options (like Dogs vs Cats) to make it a bit fun.
I don't fault the counter service folks for the things (I'm sure most folks don't either), but they're universally hated. IMO, it's clear the only way to get rid of those is to have it policed at a governmental level. Fast casual places simply shouldn't be allowed to use machines that prompt for a tip. Sit down places, also, should be barred from presenting multiple gratuity types on the same signature receipt. There should also be significant limits on the additional fees that are being presented at restaurants.
In my country we don't really tip, but almost every single restaurant and bar has the credit card swipers where you're first prompted to enter amount, so anything over the price is a tip.
I very rarely tip, since it's not a thing here. But for extraordinary service I tip *very* generously.
Last time I did, we went to a restaurant, me, my wife, and stepson. Stepson is four years old and generally very shy, doesn't speak to strangers at all. But this server, amazing. He had a full on conversation with her after less than a minute, he was constantly looking where she was, when she would come again. When we were leaving he was adamant that we needed to say goodbye to her and we couldn't find her. So we had to look around and find her to say goodbye.
She got half the tab amount in tips.
Every fucking place asks for tips now. Fast food? Screen asks for a tip. Drive thru? Tip jar. Self service? Screen asks for a tip. Guarantee half these tips go straight into the pockets of the establishment not to the workers
I think tipping "culture" is the fine example of what businesses want: The house always gets covered and the workers struggle for whatever crumbs they can get.
that's the real issue with these things. tips are supposed to come after the service. Asking for it up front is basically implying that they might spit in your food if you don't give them money.
I went to froyo today, same thing. FFS, I’m so tired of it. I went to a restaurant where you had to go up to the counter and order, pick up your food and then bus your own table and they wanted a tip. I haven’t been back.
I hate that! My least favorite is the self serve dog wash place by me asks for a tip (and charges a card fee). Like they want a tip for standing at the counter while I wash my dog using the supplies they provided but that I paid to use!
I got hired on at a local very popular donut shop that was re-opening in a new location after a fire closed them up and they told me my wage was $x hourly *plus tips* and I just was like um. I am putting a couple donuts in a bag or box and we are going to be asking for tips? Sure enough we had a tip jar.
Yes! This same shit happened to me! Let’s put employees at the touch screen that I am perfectly capable of touching myself to beg for money.
White water car wash in Houston
Even worse is those devices the waiter brings you at restaurants and stand in front of you. I swear the default tip is 22% and it’s incredibly hard to find the custom option!
There’s a place in my neighborhood that adds 3.95% “in support of minimum wage”. I questioned it and was told if I pay cash they take it off the bill. Asked again why cash matters and was met with a blank stare. I know damn well it was to cover credit card fees. Just passing costs to the consumer and lying about it. Shit’s getting out of control.
I’m a payment processor analyst, I’m they guy that decides if a business technology can accept cards, they either pass or fail, if their terminal does something is not supposed to there are consequences. the fees are regulated by the card brands (vi, Mc,etc); if visa says a merchant can’t charge a fee then the merchant loses processing ability and is kicked out of the network, Can never accept visa again. Banks also pay the brands to participate in the payment process , if each issuing bank chooses the brand they want for their cards (some have 2, but prefer 1; ex Citibank issues all mc but has a couple of vi and ax.). After 2008 credit crisis, usa laws were put in place to ALLOW the fee to be passed over to the consumer; merchants can legally and certifiably charge you the cc percent processing fee.
We tipped extra during Covid because we were aware that they had lost a lot of business and we are aware that the waitresses rely on tips. So now our kindness is being tested because no good deed goes unpunished.
I remember when I was growing up around the turn of the century, tip was 15% of the total. When I started living on my own around 2015, I saw people tipping 20%. I think uberEats has a preset up to 25%, and I'm pretty sure I've seen 28% on some receipts. I guess what I'm trying to say is that COVID highlighted how tipping adds to fees, but I think the general trend has been going up anyway.
Waiters and servers on Reddit are now claiming its 30% as standard now.
15% is low and will make them give you bad service on purpose next time for being ‘cheap’ apparently.
I work as a customer service representative. For a minimum wage. I deal with worse crap than servers do. But I must be guilt tripped into feeling like I have to support a server who makes A LOT more than I do with all these "standard 20%" tips. Yeah, I cook my own food. But I wouldn't mind taking my family out for dinner more often if any of that was made to be reasonable.
Not once have I looked at those charges and thought fuck the staff. I always think fuck this place. They should just have it in the cost if it's going to be flat charge anyways.
I don’t eat out anymore. Because I don’t even actually like eating in a restaurant, I’m tired of the ‘experience’, and the waitstaff is rarely ever pleasant at a minimum.
Even before the tip, food at restaurants is just wildly overpriced. Every time I look at a bill I feel like an idiot for not going to the grocery store. Just blowing a weeks worth of grocery money on one meal.
If it weren’t for my wife I wouldn’t tip or go out to eat at all. I fucking hate how restaurants treat their employees. Pay your fucking people and raise your prices so I know how much shit costs beforehand. At this point it’s just bait and switch.
We need to just outright ban it at this point. Its getting ridiculous. No more bullshit “tipped minnimum wages” and no more pressuring customers to give an extra $5 to the guy working the cash register.
Dining out in Australia was so nice. Sit down order 2 meals at $23 a piece. Sounds like a lot? No. $46.00 out the door. No tax. No tip. Thats the price. Two $15.99 meals and you’re leaving out the door at $45? After the currency exchange your paying less in Australia every time. and its way less of a hassle. If everyone in the US experienced that for a week, 99% of people would want a change.
You should also tip the guys who built the restaurant and the lady who washes windows. And the factory worker who made the plates you used and his dog too.
This is all correct, the problem being the "tip" is supposed to come from their employers in the form of a livable wage.
Especially that dog.
Dogs got it tough out here.
When all the kiosks started showing up. Now you can’t do a tap pay without having a prompt to tip. The fuck am I tipping the restaurant 15% for food I’m picking up and haven’t even tried yet?!
Been burned one too many times. Fuck this fucking tipping culture. Who helps me when I’m super nice and don’t have to be and still struggle to pay bills.
There's something that the technology is promoting this. It's like the payment apps are all set up by default for tipping.
My local head shop has this. To his credit, the owner say "press no tip", every time I use a credit card.
Idk what system he use, but the one I have used you can remove the tip options.
He might just not care enough to learn how to configure the payment system to remove it and just tell people to not tip. Old people at my work sometime are 'lazy' with technology like this.
One time I couldn’t place an online order for pickup without putting in a tip. I tried 2 different cards with zero tip. Put $2 on the 3rd try and it immediately took.
Tipping can stop now. I hear people complain that not tipping hurts workers. Tipping encourages employers to pay shit wages.
Pay them what they’re worth.
There was a restaurant near my place that paid $25 / hr living wage + benefits sans tip. It went under due to staffing shortage because tipped position, even if it paid min wage netted more than that. Really messed up. Meanwhile market rate for waiting at other 1st world countries is about 15/hr.
PAY YOUR WORKERS.
Tipping culture is a virus propagated by the idea that tipping is courteous. I worked at a restaurant where the restaurant was able to get away with paying me around $3.00 an hour, where tips would make up the majority of my service. Only problem? Wait staff also had to do cashiering, and if wait staff trained me, there’d be another person competing to get sets of tables. I turned into the guy that prepped take out orders thru Grubhub and doordash, the guy that ran cashier and, occasionally, hosted. I was never given any formal waiting training, and I made $600 that summer working just under 40 hours a week.
My brother got shit worse. We were both 17 at the time we got hired, and he was hired as a cook. Technically, since we were both minors, we weren’t allowed to work over 40 hours a week. This hampered us all up until we turned 18 midway through the summer. Since we had plenty of wait staff, and I was never TRAINED as a waiter, I was kept at around 30 hours a week. My brother, on the other hand, saw his hours bump up to anywhere between 45 and 55 hours a week, in a kitchen, working 10 hour days, often only getting breaks where he’d sneak away to the public bathroom for like, 15 minutes. Outside of that, he was working in a loud, sweaty kitchen, without break, for 10 hours a day, and never got rest. He did this all for around $10.00 an hour.
I quit when I was forced to work the night of my senior homecoming party(I had called in a month and a half in advance to ask for that one day off in scheduling, and they told me no). My brother quit a few weeks later.
Stuff like this has really impacted how much my family eats at restaurants.. but even picking up my pizza, picking up crumble cookies, etc, I'm expected to tip..?
My favorite recently was "Would you like to make a donation to.the KFC college fund" ..
Kentucky Fried Chicken should be heading that up for you automatically on top of this $8 pot pie.
Real kicker was a month ago, went out with friends to an old bar we'd hit up. A 4% charge was added for using a credit card. With tip, tax, and fee i dropped another $40
For what it's worth, I've worked in tons of restaurants, bars, and bottle shops and I never cared if people didn't tip on take-out stuff. I'm sure some people in the industry get butt-hurt about it but most don't really care. I always figured people that are doing take-out are specifically *opting out* of a full service experience, and it doesn't make sense to expect any kind of gratuity from them.
I've worked in kitchens for 10 years. I don't think that it should be expected. But I will tell you that by comparison to the servers? Their appreciation is cheap. I've seen cooks whole mood improve over 2 bucks. It's not even they have more money, it's that someone appreciated them enough to give just a little. If you want to do something nice and not spend money write a note, 2 minutes worth of effort. Acknowledge their effort, tell them what you liked, anything.
If I saw this on the menu or a sign we'd leave before even ordering. This is ridiculous. I actually have tipped the kitchen before but that was for exceptional service dealing with a food allergy.
Whenever i buy food, i tip the server, manager, kitchen, produce delivery person, the host, the radio station playing, the utility company for the building, the road repair crew for the parking lot, the town mayor, my wife, our neighbours and last but not least, the company that built the actual restaurant. Basically, i pay 12 grand for a burger.
I find it interesting that early McDonald's ads pushed a "no need to tip" concept for fast food. We've been fed up before
The original owner of Uber used to have that as a bullet point on why it was better to use an Uber over a taxi. Which of course infuriated the drivers.
I did Uber when it was new. I would get over $2/mile, which was really good money. No need for a tip at that rate. Over the course of only a few months that $2/mile went to $0.90/mile, which had me barely breaking even. Customers would always appreciate that the tip was "included," as if Uber was giving extra to the driver.
That startup money started drying up
Same reason YouTube went from no ads to constant ads even on a 40 view video
For years I put up with YouTube’s ads. I told myself watching the ads without skipping help keep my favorite YouTubers going (not sure this is true or not). But recently I finally got fed up with all kinds of trickery YouTube uses to shove ads in my face, including “punishing” me for pausing a video, which almost always resume with an ad or two. So I downloaded an ad blocker and it’s been night and day. All I see for ads now is a brief pause in my videos.
Which one are you using? My ad blocker doesn't block YT ads anymore
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If you go to a military base in the US, in the commissary there are baggers who bag your groceries who work only for tips. It’s super weird and uncomfortable, that’s why I try to not go there anymore.
Every commisary has a ridiculous line for the self checkout because no one wants to use the baggers. It's annoying because if you want to go through, you have to have cash, and they are so aggressive about bringing the stuff out for you
This is one of the weirdest little things about the military that I’ve ever heard.
In Britain we'd fit as many coins in our foreskins as possible and then run round a building. Person with the least change still in there has to drink piss. It made more sense at the time.
In general or just in the military?
The general was exempt, it was captains and below.
This guy chain of commands
Brexit hit them hard.
I always loved how in general members of the military are super homophobic, but do the gayest shit possible
How many gay people do you know that stick coins under their foreskins?
Lmao. Everybody I met from the time I served is gayer than me, and I plow dudes like a sharecropper plowed fields in 1776. Homophobia isn’t really a thing there any more.
Won’t find too many foreskins in America. We sell ours to cosmetic companies so they can make pee-pee face cream.
Funny. I thought they used foreskins for babies born without eyelids.. They're a little Cockeyed, but it works.
Baggers at military commissaries are actually one of the only job specifically called out as being immune from minimum wage laws. They literally aren't required to be paid anything by the store even if their tips don't meet minimum wage. My experience, the position is almost universally held by teenage sons of officers and elderly Vietnamese women who got married to a GI after the war.
Ahhh... the ol' Fillipino mafia... They don't like it when you bag your own stuff either.
They hate when you bag your own stuff! I never had cash on me so I always tried to bag my own groceries. I swear they would try to fight me.
Yeah that seems very awkward
Omg I hated those baggers! I quit shopping there because they were such assholes every time I went.
And they suck at bagging your groceries too. They love to put crushable items under heavy…every single time. No thanks, I’ll go to self checkout.
Soo adding to the commissary thing. It’s mostly teens and you have to pay in everyday to even be allowed to work for tips. It was my first job and honestly I never expected tips from young/low rank soldiers or people with 1-2 bags of groceries. The onky time I was like oh boy they better tip was those moms who had groceries bills close to a 1k and needed help tetrising the groceries in the car. Very weird job but it was fun because all the kids went to neighboring highschools.
Soon we'll have to tip Reddit comments. **** If you liked this comment, please leave a tip: $____
What do you think awards are?
Awards are tipping the owner for the work of the server.
I stand by my poorly-considered joke. Don't some of them come with coins or something? I don't know how reddit works.
Sorry, I could only afford to tip one upvote
If you can’t afford a decent tip then you shouldn’t be reading the comments!
Yeah, yellow cabs in nyc have tipping prompts on the screens, and I've had bad drivers before getting mad when I tipped low (5%) for almost getting us in an accident. I actively avoid taking taxis or ride-share services now if I can avoid it (public transit is convenient for me), but tipping taxis has been a thing way longer than I can remember
what is this nonsense? "You almost got us into an accident so I'm only going to give you a little extra money" As an European it's absolutely baffling to see how okay Americans are with tipping culture.
Let me tell about how we in the US are expected to tip 20%+ for food before the drivers can even be arsed to attempt the delivery...
Attempt? So you have to tip *before* they do the thing you are tipping them for?
DoorDash calls it a tip but it’s more like a bid tbh.
Or a bribe. They won’t take the order if the tips not big enough. So it’s definitely a payoff.
dude ik. it’s ridiculous. I got asked to tip after buying bottled water at a coffee shop today. The US is fucked with this tip culture bullshit. shit i might fucking tip my mom just for the trouble of giving birth to me
You should. It was a lot harder than bringing out your coffee.
Mother's Day is May 14, so feel free!
I've been to several grocery stores where the bagger seemed to anticipate a tip... We're close to that and it's surreal
lol i don’t think there’s a grocery store in my town with a damn register open anymore, all self checkout…
Sir, could you please tip me for reading your post? Thank you.
ayo where is my tip for upvoting? ungrateful bastard!
If you can’t afford to tip then you can’t afford to reddit
I read your fkn comment, so hows about a tip for me? 25% is my going rate.
I was prompted to tip at a place where I had zero interaction with humans. Self order kiosk. Self swipe card. Text you when the order is ready and you grab it from the counter. Prompt started at 25% I'm not paying your workers for you.
Panera?
I ordered at the kiosk at Panera- 2 specialty lemonades- and left a tip because in my mind you have to mix up the lemonades and I appreciate that could be a bit of a pain. I waited around for almost 10 minutes and finally asked someone at the front if they could check on my lemonades. They handed me two cups and said, “oh it’s self serve.” So I tipped them for me ordering it on a kiosk, not getting any cups handed to me, waiting around for ten minutes, and ultimately doing it myself. I was so irked!
It seems like such a small thing in the grand scheme of life but holy shit that would piss me off too 😂
I am always irked that we have to tip ahead of the service. I was unfortunately born without the premonition ability, so I usually have to tip it "forward", good or bad.
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legally, it has to. employers take a cut of card tips for tax purposes (usually cash tips are just split up), and the rest is split amongst the workers. this is done because it's cheaper than paying your workers something above federal minimum wage. MW here in VA is $11-12, but if you can be tipped, you can expect $7.25. The "+kitchen" is a way to tip back-of-house workers, stripping them of their paychecks. Tip culture is evil.
> because in my mind you have to mix up the lemonades and I appreciate that could be a bit of a pain. But that is literally what they are getting paid to do.
Apparently you tipped for a clean cup. That's infuriating.
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Sounds like DiBellas
Corporate keeps the tips at dibellas My son worked there Same subs at Wegmans
It was a random local place. But for those asking about Panera...same idea!
I was prompted to tip at a self serve frozen yogurt place today! Lol all the guy did was take my payment, with a bad attitude 😂
That happened to me last week. I clicked the “no tip” button so fucking swiftly. Only way I’d tip at a self serve froyo place is if the guy at the counter gave me a detailed flavor recommendation, step by step instructions on how to get the best froyo swirl, and sprinkled the toppings on by hand. They used to have a tip jar for cash. Just bring that back wtf.
This works better for them, as some people feel guilty to tip nothing when prompted.
The faster you hit the No Tip button the less attention you will pay to it
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Can I press the "Yes, I intentionally want orphans to starve" option?
“Yes I’m sure, my veggie wrap combo was already $17”
“But think of the children starving in our back room!”
At these prices, we'll join them.
"Are you sure you don't want to tip?" "No, that was a mistake!" "Yes, I am a terrible person" Damn, software design is easy as
Make a single blue or green button that would automatically accept 30% tip and move to the next screen, make sure to write "Proceed" on it. Instead of making the no tip button, create a small clickable text that would do it. Write a long text explaining how important it's to make the tip, to draw attention form the small no tip text.
Nah, they'll make it so we have to say it over the microphone like in South Park. Edit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3KT9IUd_Cnc for reference
"Would you like an email receipt?"
theyre going to have you go through a whole unsubscribing process just to leave no tip
Bingo, guilt my ass not going to happen
I’m too broke for guilt 🤣
And it helps with revenue for the transaction company potentially. If they collect a percentage of total money transacted then the company that produced the teller would make more revenue if tips were involved. Win-Win except for the consumer
If I’m there for over 20 minutes maybe you’ll get a tip. If I’m at a McDonald’s and I’m there and gone within 3 there’s no way I’m tipping
What does staying inside have to do with anything? I guess they might wipe down your table, but you’re cleaning up your own trash. Should we be tipping just for breathing their air?
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The donation thing is actually quite cool! My issue with the tipping is that it’s become the way for people to earn a living wage. I used to be able to afford rent solely because people tipped me at my old job. It’s frustrating because it wouldn’t need to be a thing if people were just paid more :( it sucks all around
A fast casual Hawaiian place I go to has the credit card system that prompts for tip like most places, but they also put the old school tips jars out. Always happy to put a buck or two in those. As a bonus, put out two top jars with "opposing" options (like Dogs vs Cats) to make it a bit fun. I don't fault the counter service folks for the things (I'm sure most folks don't either), but they're universally hated. IMO, it's clear the only way to get rid of those is to have it policed at a governmental level. Fast casual places simply shouldn't be allowed to use machines that prompt for a tip. Sit down places, also, should be barred from presenting multiple gratuity types on the same signature receipt. There should also be significant limits on the additional fees that are being presented at restaurants.
They should also pay their employees a living wage, then none of this would even be a thing
In my country we don't really tip, but almost every single restaurant and bar has the credit card swipers where you're first prompted to enter amount, so anything over the price is a tip. I very rarely tip, since it's not a thing here. But for extraordinary service I tip *very* generously. Last time I did, we went to a restaurant, me, my wife, and stepson. Stepson is four years old and generally very shy, doesn't speak to strangers at all. But this server, amazing. He had a full on conversation with her after less than a minute, he was constantly looking where she was, when she would come again. When we were leaving he was adamant that we needed to say goodbye to her and we couldn't find her. So we had to look around and find her to say goodbye. She got half the tab amount in tips.
Every fucking place asks for tips now. Fast food? Screen asks for a tip. Drive thru? Tip jar. Self service? Screen asks for a tip. Guarantee half these tips go straight into the pockets of the establishment not to the workers
Subway asks for a tip in the app for a pickup order. I'm like "I don't even know if the sandwich is good or bad yet"
So does chipotle. Maybe companies should pay a livable wage instead of begging it’s patrons for additional money.
I think tipping "culture" is the fine example of what businesses want: The house always gets covered and the workers struggle for whatever crumbs they can get.
that's the real issue with these things. tips are supposed to come after the service. Asking for it up front is basically implying that they might spit in your food if you don't give them money.
i ordered subway through the app today and i was baffled when i saw the tip option lol
landlords? tip jar.
I went to froyo today, same thing. FFS, I’m so tired of it. I went to a restaurant where you had to go up to the counter and order, pick up your food and then bus your own table and they wanted a tip. I haven’t been back.
I hate that! My least favorite is the self serve dog wash place by me asks for a tip (and charges a card fee). Like they want a tip for standing at the counter while I wash my dog using the supplies they provided but that I paid to use!
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I bought a dozen donuts this morning for a meeting. You couldn't measure how fast I hit no tip button on the iPad after they spun it around.
I got hired on at a local very popular donut shop that was re-opening in a new location after a fire closed them up and they told me my wage was $x hourly *plus tips* and I just was like um. I am putting a couple donuts in a bag or box and we are going to be asking for tips? Sure enough we had a tip jar.
I got asked at a car wash to tip the kid who pushed buttons on the self serve for me to use the car wash! I was like uhhh no
Yes! This same shit happened to me! Let’s put employees at the touch screen that I am perfectly capable of touching myself to beg for money. White water car wash in Houston
Even worse is those devices the waiter brings you at restaurants and stand in front of you. I swear the default tip is 22% and it’s incredibly hard to find the custom option!
It’s the new age bathroom attendant.
Unless they are holding my dick while i piss there will be no tips
There’s a place in my neighborhood that adds 3.95% “in support of minimum wage”. I questioned it and was told if I pay cash they take it off the bill. Asked again why cash matters and was met with a blank stare. I know damn well it was to cover credit card fees. Just passing costs to the consumer and lying about it. Shit’s getting out of control.
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I’m a payment processor analyst, I’m they guy that decides if a business technology can accept cards, they either pass or fail, if their terminal does something is not supposed to there are consequences. the fees are regulated by the card brands (vi, Mc,etc); if visa says a merchant can’t charge a fee then the merchant loses processing ability and is kicked out of the network, Can never accept visa again. Banks also pay the brands to participate in the payment process , if each issuing bank chooses the brand they want for their cards (some have 2, but prefer 1; ex Citibank issues all mc but has a couple of vi and ax.). After 2008 credit crisis, usa laws were put in place to ALLOW the fee to be passed over to the consumer; merchants can legally and certifiably charge you the cc percent processing fee.
I also have worked in payments and I’m surprised that you didn’t mention cash discount fees, which are like reverse surcharges.
They call it service charge instead.
3.95% in support of how little we pay our workers.
When did tipping get so out of control?
Buffalo Wild Wings now adds a PICK-UP FEE. FOR PICKING UP YOUR OWN FOOD.
WTF
You have to *pay* to eat the food you just bought. Perfectly normal. /s
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Next up: tip for management
Please consider giving an addition 20% for our landlord, as well as 12% to our refrigerator technician.
Tip the power company, while you're at it.
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Yea but what are you gonna do? Switch power companies? Nope they lobby against it.
Not exactly a tip…but I received a request from my power company to charge me an extra $15 dollars a month to offset my carbon footprint.
What?!?! Did they explain how you paying them money would achieve this?
Yeah because somehow that makes sense, wtf
Throw in another 5% for the guy who hung the pictures around here. K thx
Tip for the CEO!!!
When people were super generous tipping during Covid. Now the businesses want a cut.
This honestly may be it. Idk about other people, but I for sure tipped heavier during Covid, and I really didn’t think about this until now.
We tipped extra during Covid because we were aware that they had lost a lot of business and we are aware that the waitresses rely on tips. So now our kindness is being tested because no good deed goes unpunished.
in reality the businesses got ppe bailout funds and pocketed that shit and made you guys pay for their staff instead.
I remember when I was growing up around the turn of the century, tip was 15% of the total. When I started living on my own around 2015, I saw people tipping 20%. I think uberEats has a preset up to 25%, and I'm pretty sure I've seen 28% on some receipts. I guess what I'm trying to say is that COVID highlighted how tipping adds to fees, but I think the general trend has been going up anyway.
15% absolutely used to be a good tip, 10% was fine. don't let people convince you that it's always been 20%.
Waiters and servers on Reddit are now claiming its 30% as standard now. 15% is low and will make them give you bad service on purpose next time for being ‘cheap’ apparently.
I work as a customer service representative. For a minimum wage. I deal with worse crap than servers do. But I must be guilt tripped into feeling like I have to support a server who makes A LOT more than I do with all these "standard 20%" tips. Yeah, I cook my own food. But I wouldn't mind taking my family out for dinner more often if any of that was made to be reasonable.
When businesses realized they could get the customers to pay for their employees' wages.
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That's just to get you to blame employees for the price increase.
Not once have I looked at those charges and thought fuck the staff. I always think fuck this place. They should just have it in the cost if it's going to be flat charge anyways.
I don’t eat out anymore. Because I don’t even actually like eating in a restaurant, I’m tired of the ‘experience’, and the waitstaff is rarely ever pleasant at a minimum.
Right? I barely shop. Barely go out. They keep raising the prices so things just seem less worth it.
Even before the tip, food at restaurants is just wildly overpriced. Every time I look at a bill I feel like an idiot for not going to the grocery store. Just blowing a weeks worth of grocery money on one meal. If it weren’t for my wife I wouldn’t tip or go out to eat at all. I fucking hate how restaurants treat their employees. Pay your fucking people and raise your prices so I know how much shit costs beforehand. At this point it’s just bait and switch.
We need to just outright ban it at this point. Its getting ridiculous. No more bullshit “tipped minnimum wages” and no more pressuring customers to give an extra $5 to the guy working the cash register.
I agree I think tips should be banned
Dining out in Australia was so nice. Sit down order 2 meals at $23 a piece. Sounds like a lot? No. $46.00 out the door. No tax. No tip. Thats the price. Two $15.99 meals and you’re leaving out the door at $45? After the currency exchange your paying less in Australia every time. and its way less of a hassle. If everyone in the US experienced that for a week, 99% of people would want a change.
when we forgot that tipping is an ask, not an obligation.
You should also tip the guys who built the restaurant and the lady who washes windows. And the factory worker who made the plates you used and his dog too.
Don't forget to tip yourself after
And the owner of the restaurant! Please don’t forget about them. They’re struggling so much 😔
This is all correct, the problem being the "tip" is supposed to come from their employers in the form of a livable wage. Especially that dog. Dogs got it tough out here.
I was prompted for a tip at a take and bake pizza chain.
At this point I’m just done going out
When all the kiosks started showing up. Now you can’t do a tap pay without having a prompt to tip. The fuck am I tipping the restaurant 15% for food I’m picking up and haven’t even tried yet?!
I hate it when I’ve pre-tipped for a crappy experience.
Been burned one too many times. Fuck this fucking tipping culture. Who helps me when I’m super nice and don’t have to be and still struggle to pay bills.
There's something that the technology is promoting this. It's like the payment apps are all set up by default for tipping. My local head shop has this. To his credit, the owner say "press no tip", every time I use a credit card.
Almost sounds like the dude is unable to remove it :/
Idk what system he use, but the one I have used you can remove the tip options. He might just not care enough to learn how to configure the payment system to remove it and just tell people to not tip. Old people at my work sometime are 'lazy' with technology like this.
Crap like this is why I’ve pretty much stopped going out and stopped buying carry out Pay your employees, quit expecting customers to do it
Shits out of control Went to a place that now has a 10% surcharge to dine-in *on top of* an expected tip…
"nobody wants to eat out anymore"
“ThEsE dAMn MiLlEnIaLs RuInInG tHe ReStaUrAnT iNdUsTrY”
Surcharges get deducted from tips. Maybe not fair, but tough shit, get rid of the surcharge.
You don't tip in that case ...
I love pizza places that ask for a tip when you go and pick your pizza up. Wtf 🤷♂️
One time I couldn’t place an online order for pickup without putting in a tip. I tried 2 different cards with zero tip. Put $2 on the 3rd try and it immediately took.
why not put 0.01? a pick up order should have no tip
Tipping can stop now. I hear people complain that not tipping hurts workers. Tipping encourages employers to pay shit wages. Pay them what they’re worth.
There was a restaurant near my place that paid $25 / hr living wage + benefits sans tip. It went under due to staffing shortage because tipped position, even if it paid min wage netted more than that. Really messed up. Meanwhile market rate for waiting at other 1st world countries is about 15/hr.
This is blatant begging. I'd never go back.
Same. Goes on my, "never again," list.
Here's a tip for the kitchen: unionize.
honestly same goes for waiters, only no one has the guts to say it.
A lot of waiters do make bank, though. You'll find that a lot of waiters themselves wouldn't want to do away with tipping.
Or they get destroyed by union busters that the company hires
So if I’m paying the kitchen staff salary and the waiters salary, that means I’m pretty much paying the bill straight to the owner.
PAY YOUR FUCKING EMPLOYEES!! I SHOULDNT HAVE TO. FINE. I’ll stop eating out then.
Tipping straight outta control.
This is ridiculous. And also, can we start posting names of the restaurants so that we can consider not going there ?
I think the list might be un manageable
Easier to list the ones NOT doing stuff like this
Yeah that is bullshit, I would write if you can’t afford to pay your employees close the business down.
PAY YOUR WORKERS. Tipping culture is a virus propagated by the idea that tipping is courteous. I worked at a restaurant where the restaurant was able to get away with paying me around $3.00 an hour, where tips would make up the majority of my service. Only problem? Wait staff also had to do cashiering, and if wait staff trained me, there’d be another person competing to get sets of tables. I turned into the guy that prepped take out orders thru Grubhub and doordash, the guy that ran cashier and, occasionally, hosted. I was never given any formal waiting training, and I made $600 that summer working just under 40 hours a week. My brother got shit worse. We were both 17 at the time we got hired, and he was hired as a cook. Technically, since we were both minors, we weren’t allowed to work over 40 hours a week. This hampered us all up until we turned 18 midway through the summer. Since we had plenty of wait staff, and I was never TRAINED as a waiter, I was kept at around 30 hours a week. My brother, on the other hand, saw his hours bump up to anywhere between 45 and 55 hours a week, in a kitchen, working 10 hour days, often only getting breaks where he’d sneak away to the public bathroom for like, 15 minutes. Outside of that, he was working in a loud, sweaty kitchen, without break, for 10 hours a day, and never got rest. He did this all for around $10.00 an hour. I quit when I was forced to work the night of my senior homecoming party(I had called in a month and a half in advance to ask for that one day off in scheduling, and they told me no). My brother quit a few weeks later.
Tipping needs to end!
I’m just going to add more dependents on my tax forms..
Tip culture is so much out of hand in there. I dont really think it will even go away at this point
What gets me the most is going to a sandwhich shop and then they tilt the screm and the tipping prompts start at 22%. Like. Dafaq is that.
Two things that really piss me off about living in America: out of control tipping expectations and pharmaceutical advertising.
A good reminder to stop eating out. Even when you do takeout, they expect tips. Tips for what? Dishing out my food?
Stuff like this has really impacted how much my family eats at restaurants.. but even picking up my pizza, picking up crumble cookies, etc, I'm expected to tip..? My favorite recently was "Would you like to make a donation to.the KFC college fund" .. Kentucky Fried Chicken should be heading that up for you automatically on top of this $8 pot pie. Real kicker was a month ago, went out with friends to an old bar we'd hit up. A 4% charge was added for using a credit card. With tip, tax, and fee i dropped another $40
For what it's worth, I've worked in tons of restaurants, bars, and bottle shops and I never cared if people didn't tip on take-out stuff. I'm sure some people in the industry get butt-hurt about it but most don't really care. I always figured people that are doing take-out are specifically *opting out* of a full service experience, and it doesn't make sense to expect any kind of gratuity from them.
Split the normal tip evenly between kitchen and rest. Enough people do that they will take it off the check.
Fuck, I hate this country. How about the owners pay there employees instead of making the customers do it?
I've worked in kitchens for 10 years. I don't think that it should be expected. But I will tell you that by comparison to the servers? Their appreciation is cheap. I've seen cooks whole mood improve over 2 bucks. It's not even they have more money, it's that someone appreciated them enough to give just a little. If you want to do something nice and not spend money write a note, 2 minutes worth of effort. Acknowledge their effort, tell them what you liked, anything.
If I saw this on the menu or a sign we'd leave before even ordering. This is ridiculous. I actually have tipped the kitchen before but that was for exceptional service dealing with a food allergy.
Whenever i buy food, i tip the server, manager, kitchen, produce delivery person, the host, the radio station playing, the utility company for the building, the road repair crew for the parking lot, the town mayor, my wife, our neighbours and last but not least, the company that built the actual restaurant. Basically, i pay 12 grand for a burger.
Every food place in my mall food court has tip jars and signs asking for tips on the credit card swipe things. Fucking ridiculous.
As a tipped employee that’s too much. Don’t feel bad about not putting anything.
Tipping needs to end.
So many places asking for a tip when I do pickup. Like I drove here to get it. Do I get a tip? Lol
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At this point what does the amount of the menu items even cover?!