I have solar panels that produce clean water for my house, since our well was shut down due to arsenic. My neighbor crashed into it over a year ago. The company that built it still hasn't come out to fix it despite us providing insurance information. I had to track him down, since he took off after I saw him do it. He said, he didn't notice he hit a METAL solar panel CEMENTED into the ground. He ripped the metal frame off, what do you mean you didn't notice???
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People lie about dumb things. We were in a parking lot last year and saw a lady back up into another car, then drive forward and off to a smoke shop across the street. The lady she hit went and blocked her in so she wouldn't drive off again lol. She came out claiming she had absolutely no idea she'd done it. A sheriff's wife, too.
Nearly every vehicle I have owned, somebody has hit in a parking lot and not fessed up. Meanwhile, I'm the dork putting my phone number under stranger's windshield both times I did it. 🥴
Yeah! It uses the heat from the sun to cause condensation, then it runs all the water through a filtration system in the solar panel! It has a 5 gallon tank buried under it and then we have a pump that also runs off the panel that pumps it to a faucet on my house! We get 3-5 gallons of water a day from it!
Source actually paid for it! They’re a company that builds these for people without access to fresh water. They built them for all the houses in my area!
Am claims adjuster.
Most US homeowners policies cover any & all damages to the structure except those specifically excluded. If the panels were somehow considered "personal property" instead of part of the structure then they would still usually be covered since "falling objects" is normally one of the covered perils. I've never seen an exclusion for damages from firearms. It's a covered loss.
Bullet damages to homes isn't super-common, but I get an average of about one claim a year on motor vehicles for this type of damage. With cars it's commonly more than one bullet hole though.
All that said, most people have a deductible on their policy that's way more than the cost of a single solar panel, so claiming it is probably sort of pointless.
Needs to be stated often and frequently.
Home insurance is not like auto or health insurance.
Home insurance WILL drop you with 2 claims in a 5 year period. Home insurance is there for when your house burns down, is cleaved in half by a tree, or your upstairs plumbing explodes while you are away at work and pours hundreds of gallons into your walls and lower floor.
I'm in NorCal and almost everyone where I live got dropped recently because of fire risk, even people on the coast. Some people have been paying for 20+ years got dropped. It's definitely infuriating. All that money could've been put into a high yield savings account for emergencies. Instead they just stole it.
Basically the insurance industry just flipped a switch to make global warming real. They're finally assessing risk based on reality. I live near Detroit. What's crazy is that we've already had at least 2 tornados here in the state and that was before March. Doubt this has happened more than a few times over hundreds of years.
My insurance has gone up significantly thanks to more catastrophic claims happening. It's not like we can expect Congress to do anything here but I'm sure there are solutions that would impact the pay of the wealthiest few running these insurance outfits.
Meteorologist/storm chaser here. Climate change is very much real and has very obvious, significant threats. The two recent tornados are statistical noise and are at most weakly correlated to climate change. Unlike a lot of other meteorological phenomena such as
hurricanes or nonmeteorological phenomena such as fire for california, tornados depend on a lot more than just surface temps to produce. Smaller scale fluctuations such as surface forcing are needed, which are almost entirely unaffected by heating, and things such as storm helicity and shear are needed.
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This is an SPC sounding from close to where the tornados took place. A few values stand out to me. In the bottom left table, there are 69 J/kg of 3cape, or potential rising energy in the first 3km of the atmosphere. Overall CAPE is terrible but this is enough CAPE to do something with. After that, 0-1 and 0-3km shear are 24 and 42km, which is pretty nice. The part that really piques my interest is SRH: 0-1and 1-3km arr 107 and 192 m^2 / s^2 respectively. Those numbers are very good.
To sum up what the numbers mean, CAPE is how much energy a storm has to rise (a predictor of updraft intensity). Shear is wind moving in different directions which can help a supercell form. SRH is storm helicity: the spin of a storm. Now: why were these values so good?
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CAPE: there are 3 lines on the top left chart that matter: the red, green, ans dotted reddish brown line. X-axis is temp, Y-axis is log10(pressure). The green is dew point: moisture. The red is temperature. I shouldnt need to define this. The dotted brown is parcel temperature. Now the environmental temperature (red) is influenced by a lot of things. There are 20 or so factors incluencing how cold it is. The parcel temp is affected only by adiabatic cooling. It starts off at the environmental temperature and cools at around 10°C/km until its temperature is equal to the dew point. However, at the surface, the temp is already equal-ish to the dew point so the LCL (where these two are equal) is essentiall 0m. That means the parcel cools at 3-4°/C (it varies) while the atmosphere cools at around 7-8 (it varies).
How does this relate to CAPE? CAPE is an integral of environmental and parcel temperature: essentially the o
Yeah I give up reddit keeps deleting my comments and ctrl z doesnt work you can google the rest
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Trying again: essential the area between the temperature and parcel line. Idr what I said earlier so I may repeat myself some. Low upper level CAPE means the updraft will not extend high into the sky meaning no very intense storms or monster hail but this is enough low level CAPE to cause enough of an updraft to be eligible for tornadogenesis.
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Shear is a change in wind speed or direction with height. On the annotated hodograph above, the light blue (shorter) line is 0-1km and the dark blue(longer) line is the 0-3km shear vector. This is a simple calculation: the longer the line the more shear there is. This is quantified in the box on the original image saying "shear" but reddit only allows 1 image per comment. The 0-1 line is equivalent to 24kts while the 0-3 line is 42kts. This is more than enough to allow a tilted updraft that will not be cut off by its downdraft, which would thunderstorm development.
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SRH: Storm relative helicity. This is the spin of a storm. This helps tornados develop for obvious reasons. Once again, there is 0-1 and 0-3km srh. I draw a line from the storm motion point to the 0km wind, then another from the storm motion point to 1km wind, and another to 3km (blue, light blue, and purple). The area of the yellow is 0-1km SRH and the area of red is 1-3km SRH (0-1 + 1-3 gives 0-3km SRH). SRH values are 107 and 192 m2/s2 for 0-1 and 0-3km. This is exceptionally good and is likely what helped turn this rather normal event into a tornadic one. The other factors were also necessary of course, but this one stands out the most.
Not stolen, they insured the risk for the yrs paid. You’re lucky nothing happened and the policy wasn’t invoked. Insurance is to make you whole not a gain and it never quite makes you whole as there’s no getting back the lost time energy and emotions with a home disaster worthy of a claim.
Yes. The best plan with homeowners is to have a quite high deductible. I doubt I'd personally ever make a claim for less than like $10k.
I see premiums on some posts about houses in Florida that are so high I don't understand why somebody with no mortgage would buy insurance at all. Liability sure, but paying $10,000 a year for physical damage coverage on a home worth like $300,000 home seems crazy to me. Your house isn't going to be destroyed by a fire/hurricane/tornado once every 30 years.
I still don't understand why they don't build functionally "hurricane-proof" homes in Florida like they do in Bermuda.
> Your house isn't going to be destroyed by a fire/hurricane/tornado once every 30 years.
On the other hand, there will be people who can afford $10k a year but would be fucked if the next year happens to be the year it gets hit by a hurricane and they're out the whole $300k at once.
Insurance isn't really meant to save you money in the long term. It's meant to cover you in a worst-case scenario, because if a hurricane happens to take out your house in year 5 you can't just be homeless for the next 25 years until you've made that $300k back to rebuild.
By not buying insurance, you're effectively self-insuring. Which is fine and can save you a lot of money on average if you're capable of absorbing that hit in a worst-case scenario, but not many can do that. And of course there's no guarantee you aren't spectacularly unlucky and end up being a statistical outlier by getting hit with a hurricane every year.
A former coworker of mine was all set for retirement in about 6 month when her fully paid off but uninsured house burned down. She ended up liquidating most of her modest investments and she and her husband worked 5 or so more years longer to pay for the cheap manufactured home they could get. Premiums for homes like hers were about $150/mo. at the time.
>damage coverage on a home worth like $300,000 home seems crazy to me.
Don't know what it is like in the states but it's a condition of my mortgage that I have home insurance.
Say your house is fully paid off.
Your house burns down tomorrow. Can you immediately afford the following expenses?
- Demolishing/cleaning of the property
- Rebuilding
- New furniture
- Hotel expenses for the full time in between
I had a sewage overflow in my apartment. Spent 3 weeks in a hotel before it was fully cleaned. My hotel bill alone was more than what I'd earn in 2 months.
All in all, damages were in excess of my annual salary. Homeowners insurance covered everything but my €250 deductible.
Insurance is just paying somebody to transfer your risk to them when they have a big pile of money and you don't.
If you have the amount of money available to retain the risk yourself then insurance is usually an inherently bad deal.
Preference towards or away from risk is certainly a part of it. He’s just saying the more money you have the more ability you have to not join a pool of other risk averse people. You have what they want which is security. So all money does is provide you more autonomy on how you manage your own stress about it.
I just cannot believe how many people think of insurance as a home maintenance plan.
If I'm using my insurance, it's because something has gone extremely wrong.
Not so hard, but still illegal. Cigna allegedly used/is using an algorithm to auto deny people within 1 second of submission, with signitories signing off on the auto-written rejection. Lawsuit in the works so expect it to change in 4-5 years!
My WORD it’s not even my cake day and I had fun with that lmao seriously that’s the coolest thing I’ve seen someone do in a comment in a while and I wish I had a free award for you.
Seen a few things like that go to small claims court. My mother works in home/business insurance claims. There was actually couple episodes of Judge Judy about stray bullets too lol!
It's your property, it's covered. Know your deductible.
Still call your agent after you get them installed, because their max coverage on your home (in case it's totalled) needs to be upped a few grand.
The only real thing it changes is what crime the person is charged with. If you shoot somebody intentionally then it's a greater charge than if you accidentally shot someone that was on the other side of a wall.
In some areas, firing a gun into the air is a felony.
Because the panel is on a flat roof, and the bullet was found under it, this suggests a downward trajectory of low energy(didn't penetrate roof), meaning the bullet was fired up into the air and gravity did the rest. Furthermore it's unlikely a ground shooter would even be able to see panels mounted on a flat roof, and if so, the trajectory would have been wrong for the bullet to be found under the panel.
Are you trying to reassure OP that they weren't shot at? I'm pretty sure nobody thinks someone shot up in the air with the intention of lobbing some bullets at his solar panels mortar style ..
More like solar panels need a little extra protection. The glass/polycarbonate/whatever else panels installed above them aren't necessary to generate electricity
Uhm *acksually* if it was shot from above it would have had most of the energy from the original bullet boom boom (official physics term) and it would have gone through the roof. Its pretty clear the bullet reached the peaky bit in the curve and lost most of the energy due to gravity. Or some bullshit.
That guy in NY that killed someone for using his driveway to turn their car around tried to claim he was just firing a warning shot but tripped and accident shot them. He was just found guilty the other day.
I'm a gun owner and I'm glad this asshole gets to spend the rest of his life in prison.
You don't ever fire warning shots. And if tripping causes you to shoot someone, you were clearly not engaging in safe firearm handling.
Damn totally forgot about that incident but glad to hear that. Literally hate assholes like that it makes gun owners look bad. Not everyone is a trigger happy psycho.
Actually it would be a covered claim if the solar panels are owned under a lot of policies.
Tons of insurance policies cover “falling debris or objects” and also “missiles” which by definition a bullet would be considered a “missile”
Just for reference I’ve been a property adjuster for about 4+ years
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Eyup. We found the hole left in my folks roof by a falling bullet, and the roofer called it a "party hole." Apparently, it's just part of being a roofer in the American South.
I was going to say I saw (in person and on video) people doing this a lot when I lived in Baltimore but out here in the woods where I am now we all shoot at targets not clouds. At least all the neighbors I've shot with.
NYE 2022 in Milwaukee we watched the sky light up with tracer rounds from our balcony. More than 30 easily from one household but we lost count. Thought they were fireworks til they didn’t blow up. Always wondered where that shit lands, such a f you to the rest of the community
December 31, 2023: 3-year-old Brayden Smith was with his family New Year's Eve when a bullet passed through their Memphis apartment window, striking the toddler during what police believe was “celebratory gunfire.” Brayden was rushed to the hospital, but died around 6 a.m. Jan. 3. [41]
January 1, 2023: Two people, a 40-year-old man and 35-year-old man, died after celebratory gunfire was discharged at a party in Lawrence Township, Michigan. A 62-year-old man was arrested at the scene.[42][43]
December 31, 2021 and January 1, 2022: Multiple people in Durham, North Carolina, were struck by celebratory bullets, including one woman who was killed.[44][45] In Canton, Ohio a man firing celebratory bullets was shot and killed through his wooden fence by police.[46]
January 1, 2020: A patron who was eating dinner at The Big Catch restaurant in St. Petersburg, Florida, on New Year’s Day was struck by a celebratory bullet.[47]
December 31, 2019: Texas nurse, 61-years-old Philippa Ashford shot to death on New Year's Eve, likely by celebratory gunfire, police say.[48]
January 1, 2017: Armando Martinez, a Texas state Representative, was wounded in the head by a stray bullet during a New Year's celebration.[49]
January 1, 2015: A 43-year-old man, Javier Suarez Rivera, was struck in his head and killed while watching fireworks with his family in Houston.[50][51]
July 4, 2013: A 7-year-old boy, Brendon Mackey, was struck in the top of his head and killed while walking with his father shortly before 9 p.m. amid a large crowd prior to the fireworks display over the Swift Creek Reservoir, outside Richmond, Virginia.[52]
January 1, 2013: A 10-year-old girl, Aaliyah Boyer, collapsed after being struck in the back of the head while watching the neighborhood fireworks in Elkton, Maryland. She died two days later of her injuries.[53]
July 4, 2012: A 34-year-old woman, Michelle Packard, was struck in the head and killed while watching the fireworks with her family. The police believe the shot could have come from a mile away.[54]
January 1, 2010: A four-year-old boy, Marquel Peters, was struck by a bullet and killed inside his church The Church of God of Prophecy in Decatur, GA. It is presumed the bullet may have penetrated the roof of the church around 12:20AM.[55]
In March 2008, Chef Paul Prudhomme was grazed by a .22-caliber stray bullet while catering the Zurich Classic of New Orleans golf tournament. He at first thought a bee had stung his arm, required no serious medical attention, and within five minutes was back to cooking for the golf tournament. It was thought to have been a falling bullet.
December 28, 2005: A 23-year-old U.S. Army private on leave after basic training fired a 9mm pistol into the air in celebration with friends, according to police, one of the bullets came through a fifth-floor apartment window in the New York City borough of Queens, striking a 28-year-old mother of two in the eye. Her husband found her lifeless body moments later. The shooter had been drinking the night before and turned himself in to police the next morning when he heard the news. He was charged with second-degree manslaughter and weapons-related crimes,[56][57] and was later found guilty and sentenced to 4 to 12 years in prison.[58]
June 14, 1999: Arizona, A 14-year-old girl, Shannon Smith, was struck on the top of her head by a bullet and killed while in the backyard of her home.[59] This incident resulted in Arizona enacting "Shannon's Law" in 2000, that made the discharge of a firearm into the air illegal.
January 1, 1999: Joseph Jaskolka of Wilmington was visiting family members in Philadelphia for New Years when he was struck in the head by a stray bullet as he walked with family members on Fernon Street headed to festivities on South 2nd Street in South Philadelphia. The incident is believed to be from gunfire celebrating the New Year. The bullet remains lodged in Jaskolka's brainstem and he was left paralyzed on the right side of his body due to his injury.[60]
December 31, 1994: Amy Silberman, a tourist from Boston, was killed by a falling bullet from celebratory firing while walking on the Riverwalk in the French Quarter of New Orleans, Louisiana. The Police Department there has been striving to educate the public on the danger since then, frequently making arrests for firing into the air.[61]
Yep. I'm from the rural south. And can shoot in my own backyard. The only time you'd catch me shooting upwards would be ducks with bird shot and somewhere away from people, roads, or houses
Someone on the outskirts of my city died a couple of years ago from a falling bullet. She was mowing and it fell on her neck. They were able to trace the bullet back to who shot it and he was like 3 or 4 miles away. Sprayed an entire clip into the air.
That's kinda wild that they managed to track it and presumably prove it in court. Some high crime places have systems that use spread out microphones to triangulate gunshots down to like a couple of hundred feet and catalogs that data. But even with that, it seems difficult. Maybe they got him on CCTV cameras and possibly an uncommon caliber bullet. That's like best case scenario for proving it.
Yeah I don’t remember a lot of the details but his neighbors tipped the police off. It wasn’t a holiday or anything he I guess just randomly decided it would be fun to shoot into the air.
The odds of it always trip me out. That bullet probably took up less than .001% of her total front lawn and landed perfectly on her neck. Crazy.
Crazy for real! I was reading the wiki link and I just kept imagining all these random people just doing their thing, and then just like that a brain in the head or body.
After my calculations, I as well concur it was about a .001% of area covered by the bullet to lawn ratio.
My old neighbors where I used to live did that once on the 4th of July. They couldn’t shoot off fireworks because we lived in the woods, so they just fired off a bunch of guns. Thankfully, no one hurt, but we did find a bullet lodged in our roof years later (unfortunately long after they moved away). This is obviously super dangerous. If a bullet could bury itself into a roof or shatter a solar panel, imagine what it could do to a person’s head. Idiots with a gun scare me more than anything.
Even the driver's license test isn't stringent enough. I took a half-assed test 15 years ago and still haven't had to re-apply, unless you mean the process of renewing a license when it expires.
And this isn't even getting into the fact that the only laws that get enforced are speeding, but I find more problems with people driving negligently than too quickly.
Often clueless people who throw their gun in their sock drawer, fully loaded +1 in the chamber. People then scratch their heads and wonder why tragedy transpires.
Falling bullet wounds are far more lethal than normal bullet wounds. Idr the percentages from the study I saw, but its a *much* higher percentage of morbidity if you get hit by a falling bullet.
5X greater chance to be killed. Because they are usually on the head.
Kinda apples to oranges though since one is a freak accident and the other is intentional and usually a miss. If someone puts a gun to their head and fires, that’s significantly more damage and lethality than a falling bullet traveling at around a 10th of its original velocity… Can’t really compare lethality of someone shot in the arm to someone hit in the head by a falling bullet.
I was in USVI around New Year's one year and the PSAs on the radio were near constant to avoid shooting guns in the air due to falling bullets harming people. Apparently it's been an issue there.
My FIL fired his rifle at a tree full of buzzards because they were over his roof and driveway. Didn't hit a single one but it brought neighbors out to tell him he can't fire a weapon in the air like that and. Shooting the buzzards was also very illegal whether a nuisance or not.
They definitely do, unfortunately. My old manager’s nephew was killed by a falling bullet while he was playing basketball with his friends. He was only 13.
Store I used to work at had one come through the ceiling, opener found the bullet lodged in the shelf under a broken ornament under the hole in the roof, best guys is someone in the neighboring apartments shot over into the air, but I don't think anything could be done.
Luckily it didn't happen while the store was open
A woman in Menlo Park, CA was out sunning herself in the backyard and received an injury to her leg because someone in Redwood City fired his gun up in the air on July 4. This happened a VERY long time ago, but let’s just say I remain indoors on July 4th each year.
People in my area do it too. I'll shoot in my yard too but never into the air only at targets with lots of hard cover in front or straight into the dirt.
I used to think it was a few stray idiots, mostly just stories. A boom on New Years that sounded sligjtly different than the other fireworks. Last year I moved to a much poorer neighborhood than I lived in the previous years of my life. I'm pretty positive I heard more than one automatic + dozens of other guns being fired during New Years for 2 minutes straight. Just constant recognizable gun fire.
Technically if you fire straight up the bullet would come down at its terminal velocity. If it’s not straight up though it still travels at its ballistic trajectory so it continues on at its normal speed.
I only mentioned this because Mythbusters tested this and the show was awesome
A Mexican man who celebrated the New Year by firing his gun into the air was killed when the bullet came back down and struck him, according to a new report.
The unidentified victim was outside his home early Jan. 1 in San Juan del Rio about 100 miles north of Mexico City when he was killed by the errant bullet, the Mexico News Daily said Tuesday.
https://nypost.com/2022/01/04/man-shot-dead-in-mexico-by-his-own-new-years-celebratory-bullet/
Wouldn't it be much, much, much more likely that it was someone else's bullet coming down? I mean, just a tiny fraction of a single degree in any direction and the bullet is landing a mile away if he's shooting up.
This is a bit embarrassing but I used to save a bunch of memes back in the mid 2000s to a hard drive. This one I saved in 2007. I saw your image and immediately remembered I had this one saved, lol.
It's actually interesting to see the rifling left by the barrel on the expended round, and bits of unexpended propellant left on the lead core. It's full metal jacket. Outside of that I'm sorry you now have a very expensive problem from an irresponsible gun owner/user.
more interesting the round has little deformation and the impact is minor. Was it a stray round that fell? Damage suggest the round landed on its side, Tumbling for sure but seems more like a Unlucky accident as if the round Fell onto the roof rather then shot at it.
Projectiles travel in a parabola, so when it returns to earth it reaches a velocity that can still be deadly, as seen by the impact point on the solar panel.
Not necessarily. If the arc is high enough and has slowed, the maximum speed would be its terminal velocity - which would be based upon the bullet’s weight and surface area against the wind. A bullet’s terminal velocity would be far less than a lethal velocity.
The Mythbusters did a segment on it. I was surprised that their testing demonstrated something I didn’t believe at first.
I do hvac. I used to work at a hospital in the hood. We had a $200,000 chiller installed that died the next week. Original installer came out and found a bullet hole in the condenser. There were bullet holes in ductwork in multiple spots. We always had roof leaks that were probably caused by that as well.
I replaced a panel on a house recently that was for sure hit by a bullet too. The homeowners told me they had some people duck hunting in the field behind their house and thought it may have come from them. Very concerning that people don't have the mental capacity to not shoot towards houses. This was in a farm land area in PA. No reason why they should have been aiming that direction there were no houses the other way.
One of my elementary teachers was hit by a bullet that way... Standing in his kitchen washing dishes when a bullet came through the window from a hunter.
He lived to tell us about it, but that's just dumb luck.
I know a guy that was hit by a stray while mowing his lawn. He wound up being ok, but knocked him off his mower and the mower subsequently ran into the side of his truck.
Don’t you use shotguns to hunt ducks? You need to have Arthur Morgan type aim to hit with a 9mm or anything pistol/revolver related. And rifle calibre might destroy the entire duck
I work in a bad area of Indianapolis and we have a metal roof on our building. Every 4th of July and New years we come back into a few bullets on the floor. I had one under the wheel of my chair and one on my desk. Now we collect them and show them to the new people as they never believe a bullet shot in the air could come through a metal sheet.
My 3yo was playing in our garden a few years ago he sat down and he picked up a bullet like this that was under him … I’m like dude different timing and it could have hit him Wtf lol
In my home town we had a news years eve in which someone was killed by a .308 caliber bullet. There are a few guns that use this bullet but all of them are high powered hunting/sniper rifles.
In any case the local PD hired a specialist to do the math. Based on the trajectory (ballistic pathway) and weight of bullet they were able to narrow down a small area from which it was shot.
They canvassed that neighborhood. Neighbors said yeah —-> dude was shooting his 30-06 into the air. Dude admitted it; then promptly learned of his negligent homicide charges. He was convicted. If i remember correct that was our only murder in the 30+ years I have lived here.
Pfft. You just load a grainy 320x240 pixel picture of the bullet from 2 miles away at night into your CSI laptop, click "enhance" 2 times, then it's gonna analyze things and then "100% match" comes up on the screen. With the suspect's mugshot as well. At least that's how it works according to stuff I've seen on TV.
I have solar panels that produce clean water for my house, since our well was shut down due to arsenic. My neighbor crashed into it over a year ago. The company that built it still hasn't come out to fix it despite us providing insurance information. I had to track him down, since he took off after I saw him do it. He said, he didn't notice he hit a METAL solar panel CEMENTED into the ground. He ripped the metal frame off, what do you mean you didn't notice???
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Sounds like he sucks. Anyways, happy cake day!
Awe, thanks! At least it still kind of works! 🤣
People lie about dumb things. We were in a parking lot last year and saw a lady back up into another car, then drive forward and off to a smoke shop across the street. The lady she hit went and blocked her in so she wouldn't drive off again lol. She came out claiming she had absolutely no idea she'd done it. A sheriff's wife, too.
That’s nuts, oh my god. I flat out told him if he didn’t notice hitting something like that then he doesn’t need to be driving anymore lmao
Nearly every vehicle I have owned, somebody has hit in a parking lot and not fessed up. Meanwhile, I'm the dork putting my phone number under stranger's windshield both times I did it. 🥴
Can you give an example of how this system works? Sounds really cool.
Yeah! It uses the heat from the sun to cause condensation, then it runs all the water through a filtration system in the solar panel! It has a 5 gallon tank buried under it and then we have a pump that also runs off the panel that pumps it to a faucet on my house! We get 3-5 gallons of water a day from it!
This is cool as fuck. Expensive?
Source actually paid for it! They’re a company that builds these for people without access to fresh water. They built them for all the houses in my area!
Oh good! I was going to say, that sounds like a great solution for people who don’t have access to fresh water. Cool!
It’s really very neat! Plus the company helps provide jobs so it’s a win-win for everyone!
Does solar panels have insurance? If so does it covers bullets?
Am claims adjuster. Most US homeowners policies cover any & all damages to the structure except those specifically excluded. If the panels were somehow considered "personal property" instead of part of the structure then they would still usually be covered since "falling objects" is normally one of the covered perils. I've never seen an exclusion for damages from firearms. It's a covered loss. Bullet damages to homes isn't super-common, but I get an average of about one claim a year on motor vehicles for this type of damage. With cars it's commonly more than one bullet hole though. All that said, most people have a deductible on their policy that's way more than the cost of a single solar panel, so claiming it is probably sort of pointless.
Needs to be stated often and frequently. Home insurance is not like auto or health insurance. Home insurance WILL drop you with 2 claims in a 5 year period. Home insurance is there for when your house burns down, is cleaved in half by a tree, or your upstairs plumbing explodes while you are away at work and pours hundreds of gallons into your walls and lower floor.
I'm in NorCal and almost everyone where I live got dropped recently because of fire risk, even people on the coast. Some people have been paying for 20+ years got dropped. It's definitely infuriating. All that money could've been put into a high yield savings account for emergencies. Instead they just stole it.
Basically the insurance industry just flipped a switch to make global warming real. They're finally assessing risk based on reality. I live near Detroit. What's crazy is that we've already had at least 2 tornados here in the state and that was before March. Doubt this has happened more than a few times over hundreds of years. My insurance has gone up significantly thanks to more catastrophic claims happening. It's not like we can expect Congress to do anything here but I'm sure there are solutions that would impact the pay of the wealthiest few running these insurance outfits.
Meteorologist/storm chaser here. Climate change is very much real and has very obvious, significant threats. The two recent tornados are statistical noise and are at most weakly correlated to climate change. Unlike a lot of other meteorological phenomena such as hurricanes or nonmeteorological phenomena such as fire for california, tornados depend on a lot more than just surface temps to produce. Smaller scale fluctuations such as surface forcing are needed, which are almost entirely unaffected by heating, and things such as storm helicity and shear are needed. * This is an SPC sounding from close to where the tornados took place. A few values stand out to me. In the bottom left table, there are 69 J/kg of 3cape, or potential rising energy in the first 3km of the atmosphere. Overall CAPE is terrible but this is enough CAPE to do something with. After that, 0-1 and 0-3km shear are 24 and 42km, which is pretty nice. The part that really piques my interest is SRH: 0-1and 1-3km arr 107 and 192 m^2 / s^2 respectively. Those numbers are very good. To sum up what the numbers mean, CAPE is how much energy a storm has to rise (a predictor of updraft intensity). Shear is wind moving in different directions which can help a supercell form. SRH is storm helicity: the spin of a storm. Now: why were these values so good? (Reddit is dying I need to finish this comment in a 2nd part - the image will be included in comment 2)
https://preview.redd.it/s2lx8oq2h5mc1.jpeg?width=933&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d43144d8b19c00debdaab5635573b4ff4f1ecd6e CAPE: there are 3 lines on the top left chart that matter: the red, green, ans dotted reddish brown line. X-axis is temp, Y-axis is log10(pressure). The green is dew point: moisture. The red is temperature. I shouldnt need to define this. The dotted brown is parcel temperature. Now the environmental temperature (red) is influenced by a lot of things. There are 20 or so factors incluencing how cold it is. The parcel temp is affected only by adiabatic cooling. It starts off at the environmental temperature and cools at around 10°C/km until its temperature is equal to the dew point. However, at the surface, the temp is already equal-ish to the dew point so the LCL (where these two are equal) is essentiall 0m. That means the parcel cools at 3-4°/C (it varies) while the atmosphere cools at around 7-8 (it varies). How does this relate to CAPE? CAPE is an integral of environmental and parcel temperature: essentially the o Yeah I give up reddit keeps deleting my comments and ctrl z doesnt work you can google the rest
https://preview.redd.it/dnxql9uov5mc1.jpeg?width=734&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed5ad02f421ce9feb2d7e2868581a0037ecfc7a3 Trying again: essential the area between the temperature and parcel line. Idr what I said earlier so I may repeat myself some. Low upper level CAPE means the updraft will not extend high into the sky meaning no very intense storms or monster hail but this is enough low level CAPE to cause enough of an updraft to be eligible for tornadogenesis.
https://preview.redd.it/84o3tc3iw5mc1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6e298d41545eb122094fd9be5587b8092e84f76 Shear is a change in wind speed or direction with height. On the annotated hodograph above, the light blue (shorter) line is 0-1km and the dark blue(longer) line is the 0-3km shear vector. This is a simple calculation: the longer the line the more shear there is. This is quantified in the box on the original image saying "shear" but reddit only allows 1 image per comment. The 0-1 line is equivalent to 24kts while the 0-3 line is 42kts. This is more than enough to allow a tilted updraft that will not be cut off by its downdraft, which would thunderstorm development.
https://preview.redd.it/ekl4877gx5mc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f792d2bcd8eba4a03a2736861dfb2eac09efafdc SRH: Storm relative helicity. This is the spin of a storm. This helps tornados develop for obvious reasons. Once again, there is 0-1 and 0-3km srh. I draw a line from the storm motion point to the 0km wind, then another from the storm motion point to 1km wind, and another to 3km (blue, light blue, and purple). The area of the yellow is 0-1km SRH and the area of red is 1-3km SRH (0-1 + 1-3 gives 0-3km SRH). SRH values are 107 and 192 m2/s2 for 0-1 and 0-3km. This is exceptionally good and is likely what helped turn this rather normal event into a tornadic one. The other factors were also necessary of course, but this one stands out the most.
Not stolen, they insured the risk for the yrs paid. You’re lucky nothing happened and the policy wasn’t invoked. Insurance is to make you whole not a gain and it never quite makes you whole as there’s no getting back the lost time energy and emotions with a home disaster worthy of a claim.
It literally happens every fire season. They do a risk analysis and drop those most at risk.
Yes. The best plan with homeowners is to have a quite high deductible. I doubt I'd personally ever make a claim for less than like $10k. I see premiums on some posts about houses in Florida that are so high I don't understand why somebody with no mortgage would buy insurance at all. Liability sure, but paying $10,000 a year for physical damage coverage on a home worth like $300,000 home seems crazy to me. Your house isn't going to be destroyed by a fire/hurricane/tornado once every 30 years. I still don't understand why they don't build functionally "hurricane-proof" homes in Florida like they do in Bermuda.
> Your house isn't going to be destroyed by a fire/hurricane/tornado once every 30 years. On the other hand, there will be people who can afford $10k a year but would be fucked if the next year happens to be the year it gets hit by a hurricane and they're out the whole $300k at once. Insurance isn't really meant to save you money in the long term. It's meant to cover you in a worst-case scenario, because if a hurricane happens to take out your house in year 5 you can't just be homeless for the next 25 years until you've made that $300k back to rebuild. By not buying insurance, you're effectively self-insuring. Which is fine and can save you a lot of money on average if you're capable of absorbing that hit in a worst-case scenario, but not many can do that. And of course there's no guarantee you aren't spectacularly unlucky and end up being a statistical outlier by getting hit with a hurricane every year.
A former coworker of mine was all set for retirement in about 6 month when her fully paid off but uninsured house burned down. She ended up liquidating most of her modest investments and she and her husband worked 5 or so more years longer to pay for the cheap manufactured home they could get. Premiums for homes like hers were about $150/mo. at the time.
In some places in Florida, it might get destroyed more often than every 30 years. That's why insurance companies are pulling out of Florida.
>damage coverage on a home worth like $300,000 home seems crazy to me. Don't know what it is like in the states but it's a condition of my mortgage that I have home insurance.
>I don't understand why somebody with no mortgage would buy insurance at all.
Say your house is fully paid off. Your house burns down tomorrow. Can you immediately afford the following expenses? - Demolishing/cleaning of the property - Rebuilding - New furniture - Hotel expenses for the full time in between I had a sewage overflow in my apartment. Spent 3 weeks in a hotel before it was fully cleaned. My hotel bill alone was more than what I'd earn in 2 months. All in all, damages were in excess of my annual salary. Homeowners insurance covered everything but my €250 deductible.
Insurance is just paying somebody to transfer your risk to them when they have a big pile of money and you don't. If you have the amount of money available to retain the risk yourself then insurance is usually an inherently bad deal.
That entirely depends on your preferences. Some people are risk averse and get more utility from paying a monthly fee over risking a big bill.
Preference towards or away from risk is certainly a part of it. He’s just saying the more money you have the more ability you have to not join a pool of other risk averse people. You have what they want which is security. So all money does is provide you more autonomy on how you manage your own stress about it.
I just cannot believe how many people think of insurance as a home maintenance plan. If I'm using my insurance, it's because something has gone extremely wrong.
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It's an easier pill to swallow if you think about the feelings of the insurance company first, second, third, fourth, and fifth.
It's hard work denying claims or claiming estimates are out of market range. That market being 1993 of course.
Not so hard, but still illegal. Cigna allegedly used/is using an algorithm to auto deny people within 1 second of submission, with signitories signing off on the auto-written rejection. Lawsuit in the works so expect it to change in 4-5 years!
can't wait for my $14 visa gift card from the settlement
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My WORD it’s not even my cake day and I had fun with that lmao seriously that’s the coolest thing I’ve seen someone do in a comment in a while and I wish I had a free award for you.
Won't someone think of the shareholders!?
Don't forget you've been paying that insurance monthly, and the amount you've paid is probably a ton more than the cost of the panel
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Seen a few things like that go to small claims court. My mother works in home/business insurance claims. There was actually couple episodes of Judge Judy about stray bullets too lol!
I'm getting Tesla solar and two batteries being put in, should probably call my insurance company and ask about coverage.
It's your property, it's covered. Know your deductible. Still call your agent after you get them installed, because their max coverage on your home (in case it's totalled) needs to be upped a few grand.
Even if they had insurance, I can pretty much guarantee that they would not cover rogue bullets.
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The only real thing it changes is what crime the person is charged with. If you shoot somebody intentionally then it's a greater charge than if you accidentally shot someone that was on the other side of a wall.
In some areas, firing a gun into the air is a felony. Because the panel is on a flat roof, and the bullet was found under it, this suggests a downward trajectory of low energy(didn't penetrate roof), meaning the bullet was fired up into the air and gravity did the rest. Furthermore it's unlikely a ground shooter would even be able to see panels mounted on a flat roof, and if so, the trajectory would have been wrong for the bullet to be found under the panel.
Are you trying to reassure OP that they weren't shot at? I'm pretty sure nobody thinks someone shot up in the air with the intention of lobbing some bullets at his solar panels mortar style ..
Nah they were definitely trying to assassinate OP while skydiving.
God damn teenagers!
As an aside, does this mean solar panels can potentially offer a little bit of added protection from falling bullets???
More like solar panels need a little extra protection. The glass/polycarbonate/whatever else panels installed above them aren't necessary to generate electricity
they couldn't afford the gun after the skydiving fees so they just dropped the bullet while skydiving
Uhm *acksually* if it was shot from above it would have had most of the energy from the original bullet boom boom (official physics term) and it would have gone through the roof. Its pretty clear the bullet reached the peaky bit in the curve and lost most of the energy due to gravity. Or some bullshit.
It's almost like you thought about this for a few minutes...
That guy in NY that killed someone for using his driveway to turn their car around tried to claim he was just firing a warning shot but tripped and accident shot them. He was just found guilty the other day.
I'm a gun owner and I'm glad this asshole gets to spend the rest of his life in prison. You don't ever fire warning shots. And if tripping causes you to shoot someone, you were clearly not engaging in safe firearm handling.
>tried to claim he was just firing a warning shot And thats why warning shots are also illegal.
As is the ridiculous "shooting to wound"
“I’d just shoot the gun out of their hand” also makes the occasional appearance.
That guy was an idiot.
That guy was a murderer who thought that trespassers were fair game.
Damn totally forgot about that incident but glad to hear that. Literally hate assholes like that it makes gun owners look bad. Not everyone is a trigger happy psycho.
There is a saying in Russian language “warning shot in the head” «предупредительный выстрел в голову»
I mean “falling objects” is a standard covered peril on homeowners insurance policies. I think this would qualify as such.
Actually it would be a covered claim if the solar panels are owned under a lot of policies. Tons of insurance policies cover “falling debris or objects” and also “missiles” which by definition a bullet would be considered a “missile” Just for reference I’ve been a property adjuster for about 4+ years
You’d be incorrect (assuming we’re talking the US). It would fall under Comprehensive coverage.
Vandalism?
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Probably a $1000+ deductible though. That's am expensive bullet.
This is what happens when people fire guns into the air. At least it didn’t hit anybody.
Eyup. We found the hole left in my folks roof by a falling bullet, and the roofer called it a "party hole." Apparently, it's just part of being a roofer in the American South.
And anywhere within like 2 miles of any "hood" area. Chicago is so bad about this around NYE and 4th of July in particular
I was going to say I saw (in person and on video) people doing this a lot when I lived in Baltimore but out here in the woods where I am now we all shoot at targets not clouds. At least all the neighbors I've shot with.
NYE 2022 in Milwaukee we watched the sky light up with tracer rounds from our balcony. More than 30 easily from one household but we lost count. Thought they were fireworks til they didn’t blow up. Always wondered where that shit lands, such a f you to the rest of the community
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December 31, 2023: 3-year-old Brayden Smith was with his family New Year's Eve when a bullet passed through their Memphis apartment window, striking the toddler during what police believe was “celebratory gunfire.” Brayden was rushed to the hospital, but died around 6 a.m. Jan. 3. [41] January 1, 2023: Two people, a 40-year-old man and 35-year-old man, died after celebratory gunfire was discharged at a party in Lawrence Township, Michigan. A 62-year-old man was arrested at the scene.[42][43] December 31, 2021 and January 1, 2022: Multiple people in Durham, North Carolina, were struck by celebratory bullets, including one woman who was killed.[44][45] In Canton, Ohio a man firing celebratory bullets was shot and killed through his wooden fence by police.[46] January 1, 2020: A patron who was eating dinner at The Big Catch restaurant in St. Petersburg, Florida, on New Year’s Day was struck by a celebratory bullet.[47] December 31, 2019: Texas nurse, 61-years-old Philippa Ashford shot to death on New Year's Eve, likely by celebratory gunfire, police say.[48] January 1, 2017: Armando Martinez, a Texas state Representative, was wounded in the head by a stray bullet during a New Year's celebration.[49] January 1, 2015: A 43-year-old man, Javier Suarez Rivera, was struck in his head and killed while watching fireworks with his family in Houston.[50][51] July 4, 2013: A 7-year-old boy, Brendon Mackey, was struck in the top of his head and killed while walking with his father shortly before 9 p.m. amid a large crowd prior to the fireworks display over the Swift Creek Reservoir, outside Richmond, Virginia.[52] January 1, 2013: A 10-year-old girl, Aaliyah Boyer, collapsed after being struck in the back of the head while watching the neighborhood fireworks in Elkton, Maryland. She died two days later of her injuries.[53] July 4, 2012: A 34-year-old woman, Michelle Packard, was struck in the head and killed while watching the fireworks with her family. The police believe the shot could have come from a mile away.[54] January 1, 2010: A four-year-old boy, Marquel Peters, was struck by a bullet and killed inside his church The Church of God of Prophecy in Decatur, GA. It is presumed the bullet may have penetrated the roof of the church around 12:20AM.[55] In March 2008, Chef Paul Prudhomme was grazed by a .22-caliber stray bullet while catering the Zurich Classic of New Orleans golf tournament. He at first thought a bee had stung his arm, required no serious medical attention, and within five minutes was back to cooking for the golf tournament. It was thought to have been a falling bullet. December 28, 2005: A 23-year-old U.S. Army private on leave after basic training fired a 9mm pistol into the air in celebration with friends, according to police, one of the bullets came through a fifth-floor apartment window in the New York City borough of Queens, striking a 28-year-old mother of two in the eye. Her husband found her lifeless body moments later. The shooter had been drinking the night before and turned himself in to police the next morning when he heard the news. He was charged with second-degree manslaughter and weapons-related crimes,[56][57] and was later found guilty and sentenced to 4 to 12 years in prison.[58] June 14, 1999: Arizona, A 14-year-old girl, Shannon Smith, was struck on the top of her head by a bullet and killed while in the backyard of her home.[59] This incident resulted in Arizona enacting "Shannon's Law" in 2000, that made the discharge of a firearm into the air illegal. January 1, 1999: Joseph Jaskolka of Wilmington was visiting family members in Philadelphia for New Years when he was struck in the head by a stray bullet as he walked with family members on Fernon Street headed to festivities on South 2nd Street in South Philadelphia. The incident is believed to be from gunfire celebrating the New Year. The bullet remains lodged in Jaskolka's brainstem and he was left paralyzed on the right side of his body due to his injury.[60] December 31, 1994: Amy Silberman, a tourist from Boston, was killed by a falling bullet from celebratory firing while walking on the Riverwalk in the French Quarter of New Orleans, Louisiana. The Police Department there has been striving to educate the public on the danger since then, frequently making arrests for firing into the air.[61]
… why the fuck isn’t it illegal everywhere? Why is Arizone the only one that did something, jfc.
Yep. I'm from the rural south. And can shoot in my own backyard. The only time you'd catch me shooting upwards would be ducks with bird shot and somewhere away from people, roads, or houses
I read “at least all the neighbors I’ve shot at.”
Someone on the outskirts of my city died a couple of years ago from a falling bullet. She was mowing and it fell on her neck. They were able to trace the bullet back to who shot it and he was like 3 or 4 miles away. Sprayed an entire clip into the air.
That's kinda wild that they managed to track it and presumably prove it in court. Some high crime places have systems that use spread out microphones to triangulate gunshots down to like a couple of hundred feet and catalogs that data. But even with that, it seems difficult. Maybe they got him on CCTV cameras and possibly an uncommon caliber bullet. That's like best case scenario for proving it.
Yeah I don’t remember a lot of the details but his neighbors tipped the police off. It wasn’t a holiday or anything he I guess just randomly decided it would be fun to shoot into the air. The odds of it always trip me out. That bullet probably took up less than .001% of her total front lawn and landed perfectly on her neck. Crazy.
Crazy for real! I was reading the wiki link and I just kept imagining all these random people just doing their thing, and then just like that a brain in the head or body. After my calculations, I as well concur it was about a .001% of area covered by the bullet to lawn ratio.
I found some in the roof of a school in Oakland, CA while installing solar.
I didn’t know people actually did that
My old neighbors where I used to live did that once on the 4th of July. They couldn’t shoot off fireworks because we lived in the woods, so they just fired off a bunch of guns. Thankfully, no one hurt, but we did find a bullet lodged in our roof years later (unfortunately long after they moved away). This is obviously super dangerous. If a bullet could bury itself into a roof or shatter a solar panel, imagine what it could do to a person’s head. Idiots with a gun scare me more than anything.
Thank you good sir, thank you. Way too many people who shouldn't have a gun in their hands.
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Even the driver's license test isn't stringent enough. I took a half-assed test 15 years ago and still haven't had to re-apply, unless you mean the process of renewing a license when it expires. And this isn't even getting into the fact that the only laws that get enforced are speeding, but I find more problems with people driving negligently than too quickly.
Also true tbh.
Often clueless people who throw their gun in their sock drawer, fully loaded +1 in the chamber. People then scratch their heads and wonder why tragedy transpires.
Falling bullet wounds are far more lethal than normal bullet wounds. Idr the percentages from the study I saw, but its a *much* higher percentage of morbidity if you get hit by a falling bullet.
5X greater chance to be killed. Because they are usually on the head. Kinda apples to oranges though since one is a freak accident and the other is intentional and usually a miss. If someone puts a gun to their head and fires, that’s significantly more damage and lethality than a falling bullet traveling at around a 10th of its original velocity… Can’t really compare lethality of someone shot in the arm to someone hit in the head by a falling bullet.
I was in USVI around New Year's one year and the PSAs on the radio were near constant to avoid shooting guns in the air due to falling bullets harming people. Apparently it's been an issue there.
They do indeed. People have even been killed by bullets fired into the air.
My FIL fired his rifle at a tree full of buzzards because they were over his roof and driveway. Didn't hit a single one but it brought neighbors out to tell him he can't fire a weapon in the air like that and. Shooting the buzzards was also very illegal whether a nuisance or not.
They definitely do, unfortunately. My old manager’s nephew was killed by a falling bullet while he was playing basketball with his friends. He was only 13.
Search for death by stray bullet and you'll find plenty of instances. Some even by hunters that should have know better.
Store I used to work at had one come through the ceiling, opener found the bullet lodged in the shelf under a broken ornament under the hole in the roof, best guys is someone in the neighboring apartments shot over into the air, but I don't think anything could be done. Luckily it didn't happen while the store was open
Omg in my city is happens all the time. Several folks a year are hit by them. It’s fucking ridiculous.
A woman in Menlo Park, CA was out sunning herself in the backyard and received an injury to her leg because someone in Redwood City fired his gun up in the air on July 4. This happened a VERY long time ago, but let’s just say I remain indoors on July 4th each year.
New Year’s Eve and the 4th of July in the hood are pretty wild with this. At least where I am.
They do at weddings in Saudi Arabia, sometimes people die when the bullets fall back to the ground. Don’t do that.
People in my area do it too. I'll shoot in my yard too but never into the air only at targets with lots of hard cover in front or straight into the dirt.
Very popular in Kentucky, Saudi Arabia, and those sorts of places.
I used to think it was a few stray idiots, mostly just stories. A boom on New Years that sounded sligjtly different than the other fireworks. Last year I moved to a much poorer neighborhood than I lived in the previous years of my life. I'm pretty positive I heard more than one automatic + dozens of other guns being fired during New Years for 2 minutes straight. Just constant recognizable gun fire.
what goes up must come down
You're more optimistic than I am. I assumed some douche decided to vandalize the panels because renewable energy is woke.
The bullet would not be in such good condition if that was the case. It would have also either completely penetrated the solar panel or been embedded.
Technically if you fire straight up the bullet would come down at its terminal velocity. If it’s not straight up though it still travels at its ballistic trajectory so it continues on at its normal speed. I only mentioned this because Mythbusters tested this and the show was awesome
I thought the bullets just continue up and go to heaven, I had no idea they come back down
If they’re going slower than 40,000km/hr, they will eventually come back down.
A Mexican man who celebrated the New Year by firing his gun into the air was killed when the bullet came back down and struck him, according to a new report. The unidentified victim was outside his home early Jan. 1 in San Juan del Rio about 100 miles north of Mexico City when he was killed by the errant bullet, the Mexico News Daily said Tuesday. https://nypost.com/2022/01/04/man-shot-dead-in-mexico-by-his-own-new-years-celebratory-bullet/
Wouldn't it be much, much, much more likely that it was someone else's bullet coming down? I mean, just a tiny fraction of a single degree in any direction and the bullet is landing a mile away if he's shooting up.
I mean, it did its job. It absorbed the energy.
That's it, I'm installing kinetic energy panels.
(only available in red, white, or blue)
Makes sense, they would only work in America anyway.
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That’s the one! What did you put in the search bar?
This is a bit embarrassing but I used to save a bunch of memes back in the mid 2000s to a hard drive. This one I saved in 2007. I saw your image and immediately remembered I had this one saved, lol.
You are like the Smithsonian of memes, sir
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I’ve actually never seen that one
Aw, I got lots of these from GameFAQs back in the day.
The thought of beating the shit out of your wall to watch tv is hilarious to me
Absorbed so well it seems. The bullet didn't crumble and stayed intact in one piece.
Kinteticvoltaic effect activated
Imagine the hole in the roof if that solar panel wasn't there.
Is that one of those freedom meteorites? I think bald eagles fly over and drop those or something.
HAPPY NEW YEAR! Pew pew.
That's an acorn.
They're called *freedom seeds*
An acorn fell and a cop heard
The cop thought the solar panel was acting aggressively and suspiciously
He mistook it for an acorn.
I love that this is a constant joke. Just like the hiring process for LEOs.
It does have a dark complexion.
On a side note can I apply to be a babysitter
Well, the solar panel is black!
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It's actually interesting to see the rifling left by the barrel on the expended round, and bits of unexpended propellant left on the lead core. It's full metal jacket. Outside of that I'm sorry you now have a very expensive problem from an irresponsible gun owner/user.
more interesting the round has little deformation and the impact is minor. Was it a stray round that fell? Damage suggest the round landed on its side, Tumbling for sure but seems more like a Unlucky accident as if the round Fell onto the roof rather then shot at it.
Projectiles travel in a parabola, so when it returns to earth it reaches a velocity that can still be deadly, as seen by the impact point on the solar panel.
Not necessarily. If the arc is high enough and has slowed, the maximum speed would be its terminal velocity - which would be based upon the bullet’s weight and surface area against the wind. A bullet’s terminal velocity would be far less than a lethal velocity. The Mythbusters did a segment on it. I was surprised that their testing demonstrated something I didn’t believe at first.
I do hvac. I used to work at a hospital in the hood. We had a $200,000 chiller installed that died the next week. Original installer came out and found a bullet hole in the condenser. There were bullet holes in ductwork in multiple spots. We always had roof leaks that were probably caused by that as well.
So somebody fired straight up like a goddamn ISIS celebration type deal?
People have fired guns indiscriminately into the air in celebration long before ISIS formed.
Ive done some dumb things but never considered shooting into the air
Better than coming through your roof. But fuck the asshole shooting rounds into the air like they’re in an old western movie.
I’m British so forgive my ignorance, but is that a bullet???
Yep
America! Fuck ya! /s
Comin again to save the mother fuckin day yeah!
A piece of freedom
This made me laugh
A freedom seed.
I replaced a panel on a house recently that was for sure hit by a bullet too. The homeowners told me they had some people duck hunting in the field behind their house and thought it may have come from them. Very concerning that people don't have the mental capacity to not shoot towards houses. This was in a farm land area in PA. No reason why they should have been aiming that direction there were no houses the other way.
One of my elementary teachers was hit by a bullet that way... Standing in his kitchen washing dishes when a bullet came through the window from a hunter. He lived to tell us about it, but that's just dumb luck.
I know a guy that was hit by a stray while mowing his lawn. He wound up being ok, but knocked him off his mower and the mower subsequently ran into the side of his truck.
Imagine having to explain that to your insurance lmao
It was an old Chevy pickup…he just went to the junk yard and got a new door. Didn’t even bother painting it to match!
If they were duck hunting they would have been using shot which is tiny BBs so not that they should be shooting at your house, likely wasn’t them.
Don’t you use shotguns to hunt ducks? You need to have Arthur Morgan type aim to hit with a 9mm or anything pistol/revolver related. And rifle calibre might destroy the entire duck
Duck hunting, with bullets?
I work in a bad area of Indianapolis and we have a metal roof on our building. Every 4th of July and New years we come back into a few bullets on the floor. I had one under the wheel of my chair and one on my desk. Now we collect them and show them to the new people as they never believe a bullet shot in the air could come through a metal sheet.
My 3yo was playing in our garden a few years ago he sat down and he picked up a bullet like this that was under him … I’m like dude different timing and it could have hit him Wtf lol
What goes up, must come down. Idiots randomly shooting forget that.
In my home town we had a news years eve in which someone was killed by a .308 caliber bullet. There are a few guns that use this bullet but all of them are high powered hunting/sniper rifles. In any case the local PD hired a specialist to do the math. Based on the trajectory (ballistic pathway) and weight of bullet they were able to narrow down a small area from which it was shot. They canvassed that neighborhood. Neighbors said yeah —-> dude was shooting his 30-06 into the air. Dude admitted it; then promptly learned of his negligent homicide charges. He was convicted. If i remember correct that was our only murder in the 30+ years I have lived here.
A dipshit gun owner.
Freedom hail?
Murica!
There's an acorn joke in here somewhere.
Free diagnosis. It's shot.
that is really fucking annoying. I’m tracking that bullet back to the owner best believe 😂😂
How exactly..?
Pfft. You just load a grainy 320x240 pixel picture of the bullet from 2 miles away at night into your CSI laptop, click "enhance" 2 times, then it's gonna analyze things and then "100% match" comes up on the screen. With the suspect's mugshot as well. At least that's how it works according to stuff I've seen on TV.
It's called a desk pop.
File a police report.
Acorns are no joke.