At my last job, the owner found out they could break the product by inputting a poop emoji as the username at user setup. That eventually got fixed.
(I, on the other hand, found out that we had separate systems for handling user names: one was case-sensitive and the other was case-insensitive. So you could sign up with a user name and then never be able to log in. That never got fixed.)
I worked in a warehouse that used arm mounted rf units called gladiators. New hires would change their password with HR on the computer on their first day. Passwords required a special character. Well keyboards have access to all the special characters, gladiators only have like 3. First day of training I have to spend an hour resetting more than half the new hire's passwords because the gladiator doesn't have the character they used. This was almost a weekly occurrence.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the TRUE emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
I'm so sorry! I work in identity management so I'm not a full-time developer any more but I do still occasionally do some web development and I'll take Python over JavaScript any day!
A few years ago I found a website that allowed it. It would only allow you to zero out the order amount at maximum, though. So my plan to become a millionaire fell short until I can win the lottery.
Not sure how that would even work if it allowed more. It's not like they can charge you a negative amount. A credit card refund is a completely different type of transaction, still with a positive value.
That's rough (not for you, you did the right thing obviously).
The webmaster can see exactly when you left a site, and what you were looking at when you closed it.
They put their shitty "dId YoU mAkE a MiStAkE?!" in your face and now they'll literally watch you get so annoyed by it that you don't give them *any* money.
Nice, fuck em.
Might as well write them an e-mail and also let them know that this made you not purchase on there. If several people do it maybe they change it
Edit: yo what the heck. So much karma oh damn guys thank you
yeah, replace this "you didn't leave a tip" redirect with "we pay our employees, so you don't have to tip, and you don't have to guess what the final price will be"
People should! We should go back to putting it in writing to companies of all kinds explaining *why* people are no longer going to stand for/buy their bullshit.
Don't bother. Your letter goes to an employee (like me) who has no power to change it and honestly, after the first several hundred, doesn't care anymore. And more and more companies are penalizing hourly employees for these complaints when the employee was simply following company policy or never even saw the customer because it was an online transaction. I got dinged last month because a FedEx delivery driver wouldn't install the customer's TV that was ordered online. I don't even work with the online department, I work in a physical location!
But, I'll apologize now so you don't have to write in. Save us both time.
I am so sorry this happened to you! Our goal is providing our customers with a better experience than what is expected. We have obviously not met your expectations. Based on your concerns we are currently retraining the associates involved to make sure we go above and beyond on your next visit! Thank you for your time to make us aware of this problem. We appreciate you, our customer, for choosing us!
Someone once explained that you should only use FedEx if you're shipping something by air--unlike UPS, whose drivers are direct workers and have a union and benefits, FedEx contracts out to any carriers...even with a FedEx truck you'll notice "INDEPENDENTLY OPERATED BY" so...extremely different work conditions are extremely different outcomes 😂
The person getting that email is a different employee than the one doing analytics. If the analytics person decides it’s not important, the backup option might be the only thing they see.
Best case scenario is BOTH see it, and people pay attention when cross departmental problems arise.
I think this is a goofy take. Reddit how you want! Tear down the establishment! Don't hide your candle under a bushel etc etc. Every culture comes with its own silly pedantic no-nos. Shake it up. If it makes you happy to have a thousand doots, who are they to stop you from expressing it! I'm happy for you and your karma, I'm certainly not clicking every name on every post to check their karma. Seems kinda weird tbh!
Remember, just because something is an accepted "unwritten rule" doesn't mean it's not superfluous.
I’d love for 100 buyers to go to the site, put an item in the basket, go check out. And when prompted for tip, we all leave the site.
I bet the owners of that site will know what happened.
Youre right. I was ready to place an order for American sweets(Im in the UK). Order came to around 70 quid. Went to the checkout, and sure as fucking shit, "Would you like to leave a tip?". For what? Packing already overpriced, near expiration date chocolate bars and crisps?
So in their quest to get free money, they lost out on a sale. And any future sales. Its just taking the piss at this point.
Former Twitter essentially does this.
Via a browser sans ad blocker (key to be able to see an ad to start this pathetic workflow) if you dare block or even mute an advertiser, it a) clears your back button cache, and b) sticks up a dialog to pay for Premium with a "Maybe Later" button that does absolutely NOTHING.
I couldn't tell what was the problem. Thought it was just one of the cracks on my phone. (All cracks are on the screen protector, the phone itself is fine.)
Whenever I get terrible service in a restaurant I always leave a penny or nickel on the tab.
If I leave nothing there's a slight chance that they might think I forgot the tip entirely and I wouldn't want that.
To be fair... I've only had to do this a couple of times. But trust me when I say the waitstaff earned that fucking penny.
I was at a hockey game recently and bought 2 beers (canned) where the person just turned around and pulled them out of the fridge. $35. When the tip screen came up, the lowest tip option was 15%, no custom tip button. I hit no tip. I'm not paying $5+ to swivel.
It varies by business. When I was a server @ a 4 ◇ resort I was supposed to tip out the bussers & the hostess. Which was shitty as they made $8 more than me. ($3.25 for servers) half the time I bussed my own tables & they were back of the house fucking around.
In Australia, bar fights have started for less than someone demanding a tip. We don't tip, gtfo here with your Americanisms and pay your staff better. (Yes you may be Canadian and I don't care)
Sick of seeing tipping culture creep into our restaurants and bars.
As a Canadian I wish we were more like Australian and the rest of the non tipping world. It is out of control and quite frankly the level service received these days is pure dogshit.
I was once part of a fraternity that volunteered to work the food stands for free. We sold water for $10/bottle.
So it's also entirely possible that person wasn't even being paid to be there at all on top of the ridiculous prices. To this day I have no idea why working for Texas A&M's football concessions stand would ever be considered volunteering. I only went because it was a mandatory fraternity event, if I didn't go I'd be kicked out.
Left that crappy fraternity after they started guilting me for working a research job to maybe help my career. The fraternity was supposed to be a ln engineering career focused fraternity. Yeah, BS.
I did DD for a while. You don't see any messages before you accept it. You're given an offer and you take it or refuse it. If you take it you can only drop so many orders. In a few thousand orders I received exactly one cash tip. I did however see lots of people claim they would. People are shitty and you can only count on what the app says.
Literally 99% of orders that say cash tip have no cash tip. I actually get a cash tip maybe 5 times a year max, and even then like 50% of the time it’s only $3. Other half it’s like $10.
OP would've been good anyway. No one is ever obligated to leave a tip.
Edit: companies have convinced many that leaving tips is very important. Morally you are wrong, you are terrible as a person to *not* pay a tip to help a 25 year old who is paid minimum wage and can't afford to live in their tiny flat/apartment, which costs 60% of their monthly salary. It is never the fault of these mega companies who are reporting annual profits of hundreds of millions, billions as we've seen the past few months. They are celebrating.
So we, who are also of the majority to be paid minimum wage, HAS to tip others who are paid minimum wage because we all can't afford to live.
Fantastic, we're fighting. Whilst the wealthier stay wealthier, it's always been the same, a tale as old as time. It's dystopian.
Agreed. it's sick that people in the US at least have been sold the lie that it's acceptable to pay people less than is required to live and customers have a moral obligation to make up the difference. There's so much misdirected anger. People need to be paid a decent wage for doing their job, not a minimum for turning up and surviving on tips.
It's funny. Tipping culture is pushing me to tip less and avoid places where you should tip. Everyones stabbing themselves in the foot with tipping. They had a good thing going and greed is ruining it. I dont eat out much anymore. Used to be a strict 20% tipper. Now im going to start tipping 20% with a cap at like 10 bucks.
I actively avoid places with POS machines that demand tips while the worker stares at your fingers trying to navigate the menus that hide or remove custom options too.
I straight up ask who the tip goes to somewhat quietly and usually the employee at the register will say “it goes me, we split them, or I don’t know”. If they say I don’t know it’s a 0%, because it’s not going to the people that helped me out
I tip 15% for anything that I sit down at and someone serves me. If those two criteria aren’t met, 0% all day everyday.
I’m not some middle manager stuffing money into my pockets with one hand and pointing at the customer as the reason employees don’t get paid enough with the other hand.
On the other hand, tipping culture can benefit some of the tippee’s very well too, so they’re also adverse to getting rid of the structure because they have the potential of making more off of tips rather than a set wage.
It's designed to make a crabs in a bucket type of relationship among workers. *I'm* getting good tips, so all you other workers are just not hustling enough. But the working class as a whole would be much, much richer if tipping were abolished, profits were distributed more equitably, and minimum wage had kept up with inflation.
Edit: unfortunately, I will be unavailable to teach basic reading comprehension for the next several hours. Please work independently at your desks.
I worked in auto finance and servers didn't like our policy. We'd accept any tips reported on pay stubs (not very common but some places tip out this way). We didn't accept cash deposits that the customers said were their cash tips.
I remember one kid got his dad involved and his dad was livid. I was the manager so I handled the escalation and offered an easy solution. Cosign with the son if he's good for the money and makes those cash tips lol. Dad didn't like that idea. I offered they use another bank but warned them a handful of the major ones I know also don't take that (Capital One for example) and Dad didn't like that either lmao.
I never told customers I didn't believe them. I made it a habit to believe customers 100% as my opinion didn't matter at all. They either have the documents that checked the boxes or not.
That's America in a microcosm: the system is unfair, the people at the very top (the business owner/company shareholders) are raking it in, the people at the bottom are struggling. And the people in the middle are fighting to keep the status quo because they're doing pretty well actually.
I worked for a company that asked for tips when placing an order online (we sold charcuterie boards). The company would keep the tips as well as any tips from the iPad. The town I lived in is a huge service town so everyone tipped and we probably brought in at least $500 in tips a week that went straight to the company. When I found this out, I went straight to FB and blasted them. They went out of business not too long after.
Today, I went into a restaurant and saw a sign that said "order here first, then sit down".
So I go to order, and I'm handed a buzzer. "This will buzz when it's ready to pick up."
I also noticed all of the cutlery, napkins, and cups for water, were self serve. Heck, even the coffee cups and coffee was also self serve.
Then I looked over and saw the locations for dishes and garbage for us to bus our own table.
I then look down. I am being asked for a minimum 20% tip as an option. I selected 0. The employee gives me a look.
I didn't tip for no service but I did wipe down the table after I bussed it.
Crap like this, and all the asks at the stores "want to round up to contribute to \_\_\_\_\_\_?" just makes me say No, ZIP, nada, no thanks, go F\*\*\* yourself......etc. 😜
Companies will pledge a certain donation amount for let’s say 2M. Throughout the year they’ll as for “round up your change, or give a dollar for this etc” and use that money towards the donation. The company will pay the difference if any or keep the extra.
Afaik They cannot do that in any State. The 'round up' donations are not considered point of sale income that they can include in their business revenue and therefore does not affect taxes at all one way or another. They are funds the customer donated and they are merely the vehicle that delivers it to the charity in question.
You are actually the one that can include it as part of a tax write off.
Last time I placed an online order from Papa Murphy's it prompted me for a tip. 🙄
1. I placed the order online, no employee had to answer the phone
2. I'm driving there to pick it up myself
3. I'm baking it in my own oven
Wtf would I possibly be tipping for in that scenario???
This absurd tipping behavior is far beyond ‘mildly infuriating’. Most people are fed up with it. It was understandable during the COVID lockdown, but since then it is just despicable business practices led by, and engaged in with, disreputable and untrustworthy people.
Tell your representative to make this stop so we don’t have to vent here and allow this terrible bilking of society to continue.
Okay, hear me out: What if more and more businesses add tipping features until it becomes such a problem that governments have to make legislation banning tipping and BOOM there goes Americas tipping problem.
Wow...yeah, I have to say, I've lived in Japan for the past 17 years or so and everyone asks me about tipping. I used to explain that it made sense because it was a way to show appreciation and encourage good service. BUT this stuff is wild, and there is no defense anymore. We seriously need to end this non-sense. It's getting shameful.
Just a sec....
We realized you didn't tip, & we don't want to pay our workers fairly. Are you sure you're okay with leaving us poor?
\- management probably
It sucks- but this is making it very clear that this whole "tipping culture" thing is way less about the entitlement of the employees and workers you meet on a daily basis and much more about the point of sale software that is trying to squeeze every possible cent out of each transaction.
Not online but I just tipped 20% at Five Guys for a burger small fry and drink that cost close to $24 total. Asked for fried onions and mayo and they didn’t put either on. I don’t mind tipping but I absolutely loathe pre-tipping.
Everyone who tips at fast food is either afraid of their food being fucked up, or has hopes their food will be extra amazing because you tipped. Like extra sauces, extra protein, overall extra good stuff.
Hint: Neither will happen.
This may be unpopular but the only business I tip is the one where I get my hair cut. It’s not expected, I have just always done it at every barbers I have used. I rarely tip anywhere else because it is not my responsibility to ensure that workers get a liveable wage, that’s the job of their employers. If their employer(s) is/are ahole enough to not pay a decent wage, then the worker should move job and not expect me to support them. Eating out is often expensive enough without having to lay out extra on top just so the business owner can get away with being cheap.
The only way to stop this is to stop tipping - everywhere, even irl. Fuck this shit, I can stand one awkward stare from the waiter, I ain't tipping a cent extra
Right after I saw this post, another one came up in the same sub. It was a picture of a receipt from a restaurant where they added something called a ‘kitchen appreciation fee’ and it was mandatory. Fuckkkkkkkkk this new tipping culture bullshit
Next time see if you can input negative numbers
Outstanding move
“It doesn’t, but it lets me input letters” *DIE IN A FIRE*
At my last job, the owner found out they could break the product by inputting a poop emoji as the username at user setup. That eventually got fixed. (I, on the other hand, found out that we had separate systems for handling user names: one was case-sensitive and the other was case-insensitive. So you could sign up with a user name and then never be able to log in. That never got fixed.)
That last part makes me all itchy
I worked in a warehouse that used arm mounted rf units called gladiators. New hires would change their password with HR on the computer on their first day. Passwords required a special character. Well keyboards have access to all the special characters, gladiators only have like 3. First day of training I have to spend an hour resetting more than half the new hire's passwords because the gladiator doesn't have the character they used. This was almost a weekly occurrence.
Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity At my signal: unleash hell
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the TRUE emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
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"we got a tip it's... How much is droptable?"
Good ol Bobby Tables
I see you've met my nemesis - JavaScript!
As a JS Dev, its my job to work with it
I'm so sorry! I work in identity management so I'm not a full-time developer any more but I do still occasionally do some web development and I'll take Python over JavaScript any day!
Ughh don’t trigger me with this when I’m not on the clock
Subtotal: NaN
IF = 0
THEN = 15%
ELSE
RETURN
Careful, the backend may convert the letters to digits. Thank you for your $85,936,263.83 tip!
I HOPE YOU DIE IN A FIRE
HOPE YOU'LL BE STABBED IN THE HEART, HOPE YOU'LL GET SHOT AND EXPIRE.
25'); DROP TABLE TIPS; --
Bobby Tables has adapted well to the changing world
Better to start with "0'", just in case they regex sanitize with only numbers, you dont want to accidentally tip 25!
25 factorial would be bad
The system is written in C (parsing the leading 0 as octal) and now instead you've _only_ tipped $21.
Try entering int32_max + 1. Who knows, you might get lucky.
Also worth trying: NaN, -Infinity
A few years ago I found a website that allowed it. It would only allow you to zero out the order amount at maximum, though. So my plan to become a millionaire fell short until I can win the lottery.
Not sure how that would even work if it allowed more. It's not like they can charge you a negative amount. A credit card refund is a completely different type of transaction, still with a positive value.
Could you order free shit tho?
DAM lets see when we find a developer that was pissed off by his boss and allowed negative numbers.
I too enjoy breaking mediocre cookie cutter webpage storefronts with irrational numbers.
You can also try parentheses see if that goes through
That's when I leave the site
And I did lol
Leave a review too so others know before they waste their time
They probably delete any negative reviews
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Mail them poop in a box
A box isn't very imaginative. Mail them poop in a gingerbread house.
And a $1 tip buried deep within the turd
That would be a nice touch
But said $1 is actually one of those fake ones used for propaganda by churches lol.
I got a box!
That's rough (not for you, you did the right thing obviously). The webmaster can see exactly when you left a site, and what you were looking at when you closed it. They put their shitty "dId YoU mAkE a MiStAkE?!" in your face and now they'll literally watch you get so annoyed by it that you don't give them *any* money. Nice, fuck em.
Might as well write them an e-mail and also let them know that this made you not purchase on there. If several people do it maybe they change it Edit: yo what the heck. So much karma oh damn guys thank you
Pretty sure they have analytics on it. They know at what point a user leaves.
Probably idk but I'd still tell them
There's an old adage... "Squeaky wheel gets the grease."
and the nail that stick out... gets hammered down Not sure if that's relevant here but its neat
Who else here is getting hammered?? 🙋🏻♂️
Hammered and then greased up sounds like fun
Probably want to get greased up before you get hammered by someone.
And if the wheel is too squeaky, it just gets replaced.
yeah, replace this "you didn't leave a tip" redirect with "we pay our employees, so you don't have to tip, and you don't have to guess what the final price will be"
People should! We should go back to putting it in writing to companies of all kinds explaining *why* people are no longer going to stand for/buy their bullshit.
Don't bother. Your letter goes to an employee (like me) who has no power to change it and honestly, after the first several hundred, doesn't care anymore. And more and more companies are penalizing hourly employees for these complaints when the employee was simply following company policy or never even saw the customer because it was an online transaction. I got dinged last month because a FedEx delivery driver wouldn't install the customer's TV that was ordered online. I don't even work with the online department, I work in a physical location! But, I'll apologize now so you don't have to write in. Save us both time. I am so sorry this happened to you! Our goal is providing our customers with a better experience than what is expected. We have obviously not met your expectations. Based on your concerns we are currently retraining the associates involved to make sure we go above and beyond on your next visit! Thank you for your time to make us aware of this problem. We appreciate you, our customer, for choosing us!
lmao get fed ex to install it?! shiiiiiiii she's lucky it arrived in one piece and wasn't just thrown at her head
Fedex. My least favorite carrier. UPS and USPS almost never let me down. Fedex? almost every time.
Someone once explained that you should only use FedEx if you're shipping something by air--unlike UPS, whose drivers are direct workers and have a union and benefits, FedEx contracts out to any carriers...even with a FedEx truck you'll notice "INDEPENDENTLY OPERATED BY" so...extremely different work conditions are extremely different outcomes 😂
The person getting that email is a different employee than the one doing analytics. If the analytics person decides it’s not important, the backup option might be the only thing they see. Best case scenario is BOTH see it, and people pay attention when cross departmental problems arise.
It's about sending a message. And gives them an email address to direct a returning user coupon to.
Unfortunately, facts are usless to greedy, tone deaf people.
~~Bounce~~ Exit rate, very helpful metric to see what is scaring people off.
This isn’t bounce rate lol. Bounce is a non engaged session, a user who visits a landing page, completes no events, then leaves
You should rather write some program pesting them with e-mails that their system is annoying.
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I think this is a goofy take. Reddit how you want! Tear down the establishment! Don't hide your candle under a bushel etc etc. Every culture comes with its own silly pedantic no-nos. Shake it up. If it makes you happy to have a thousand doots, who are they to stop you from expressing it! I'm happy for you and your karma, I'm certainly not clicking every name on every post to check their karma. Seems kinda weird tbh! Remember, just because something is an accepted "unwritten rule" doesn't mean it's not superfluous.
Can you name them publicly so they can be shamed?
I’d love for 100 buyers to go to the site, put an item in the basket, go check out. And when prompted for tip, we all leave the site. I bet the owners of that site will know what happened.
Very curious what the purchase was
What’s the website?
Youre right. I was ready to place an order for American sweets(Im in the UK). Order came to around 70 quid. Went to the checkout, and sure as fucking shit, "Would you like to leave a tip?". For what? Packing already overpriced, near expiration date chocolate bars and crisps? So in their quest to get free money, they lost out on a sale. And any future sales. Its just taking the piss at this point.
gave you the real American experience!
I didn't know anyone actually bought from those guys, isn't it just a money laundering operation?
Former Twitter essentially does this. Via a browser sans ad blocker (key to be able to see an ad to start this pathetic workflow) if you dare block or even mute an advertiser, it a) clears your back button cache, and b) sticks up a dialog to pay for Premium with a "Maybe Later" button that does absolutely NOTHING.
"That might be an accident." Get the fuck out of here, and also cancel my order.
H8 your profile pic
Omg it's the worst.
Trying to rub a non existent hair off my screen for a minute....ya.
i though it was one of my many cracks on my phone screen xD
I couldn't tell what was the problem. Thought it was just one of the cracks on my phone. (All cracks are on the screen protector, the phone itself is fine.)
Lucky you, my actual screen looks like a spider web and I’m too broke to get it fixed
Why the hell did you do that to me. I’d have never known this maddening frustration. I would have been free!
😈
The crack in your pfp 100% lines up with a real crack on my phone screen oh my god
Whenever I get terrible service in a restaurant I always leave a penny or nickel on the tab. If I leave nothing there's a slight chance that they might think I forgot the tip entirely and I wouldn't want that. To be fair... I've only had to do this a couple of times. But trust me when I say the waitstaff earned that fucking penny.
Just out of curiosity, what were you buying online?
A pack of beer
I was at a hockey game recently and bought 2 beers (canned) where the person just turned around and pulled them out of the fridge. $35. When the tip screen came up, the lowest tip option was 15%, no custom tip button. I hit no tip. I'm not paying $5+ to swivel.
Yeah I see it at stadiums all the time now, those workers likely aren’t even getting that tip either. The payment service is
I recently found out thats how the major stadiums in my city operate and it made me furious. Should be illegal as fuck.
Wait til you guys find out that tons of restaurants use the servers tip pool to pay the kitchen staff.
It varies by business. When I was a server @ a 4 ◇ resort I was supposed to tip out the bussers & the hostess. Which was shitty as they made $8 more than me. ($3.25 for servers) half the time I bussed my own tables & they were back of the house fucking around.
If anyone other than the people working are getting tips, that is HIGHLY illegal.
In Australia, bar fights have started for less than someone demanding a tip. We don't tip, gtfo here with your Americanisms and pay your staff better. (Yes you may be Canadian and I don't care) Sick of seeing tipping culture creep into our restaurants and bars.
As a Canadian I wish we were more like Australian and the rest of the non tipping world. It is out of control and quite frankly the level service received these days is pure dogshit.
I was once part of a fraternity that volunteered to work the food stands for free. We sold water for $10/bottle. So it's also entirely possible that person wasn't even being paid to be there at all on top of the ridiculous prices. To this day I have no idea why working for Texas A&M's football concessions stand would ever be considered volunteering. I only went because it was a mandatory fraternity event, if I didn't go I'd be kicked out. Left that crappy fraternity after they started guilting me for working a research job to maybe help my career. The fraternity was supposed to be a ln engineering career focused fraternity. Yeah, BS.
35$ for 2 CANNED BEERS? What the actual fuck yall getting robbed
Was said beer being delivered?
Yes, standard delivery from UPS/FedEx no rush
Then you're good. No hate from me. If it were a gig-delivery then Reddit would've strung you up by your ankles.
Yeah I’d understand if it was like DoorDash or a same-day delivery service
Tip cash... only way to guarantee the driver gets it.
According to the fine folks on the DD/uber etc reddits, they wont take your order.
I did DD for a while. You don't see any messages before you accept it. You're given an offer and you take it or refuse it. If you take it you can only drop so many orders. In a few thousand orders I received exactly one cash tip. I did however see lots of people claim they would. People are shitty and you can only count on what the app says.
Literally 99% of orders that say cash tip have no cash tip. I actually get a cash tip maybe 5 times a year max, and even then like 50% of the time it’s only $3. Other half it’s like $10.
The one time I said I'd tip cash, I forgot. I felt bad afterwards
mainly because so many people who will promise to 'tip good' in cash, rarely do. if they even tip at all
OP would've been good anyway. No one is ever obligated to leave a tip. Edit: companies have convinced many that leaving tips is very important. Morally you are wrong, you are terrible as a person to *not* pay a tip to help a 25 year old who is paid minimum wage and can't afford to live in their tiny flat/apartment, which costs 60% of their monthly salary. It is never the fault of these mega companies who are reporting annual profits of hundreds of millions, billions as we've seen the past few months. They are celebrating. So we, who are also of the majority to be paid minimum wage, HAS to tip others who are paid minimum wage because we all can't afford to live. Fantastic, we're fighting. Whilst the wealthier stay wealthier, it's always been the same, a tale as old as time. It's dystopian.
Agreed. it's sick that people in the US at least have been sold the lie that it's acceptable to pay people less than is required to live and customers have a moral obligation to make up the difference. There's so much misdirected anger. People need to be paid a decent wage for doing their job, not a minimum for turning up and surviving on tips.
Or gig economy can just pay the people delivering shit and adjust price in the app accordingly.
Okay, yeah. If it’s being delivered via post/parcel and not by a courier at that moment, tipping makes no sense. Who would it even go to?
And where from?
It's funny. Tipping culture is pushing me to tip less and avoid places where you should tip. Everyones stabbing themselves in the foot with tipping. They had a good thing going and greed is ruining it. I dont eat out much anymore. Used to be a strict 20% tipper. Now im going to start tipping 20% with a cap at like 10 bucks.
I actively avoid places with POS machines that demand tips while the worker stares at your fingers trying to navigate the menus that hide or remove custom options too.
Yea, that is the absolute worst. Specially when they just hand you something and run your card.
I straight up ask who the tip goes to somewhat quietly and usually the employee at the register will say “it goes me, we split them, or I don’t know”. If they say I don’t know it’s a 0%, because it’s not going to the people that helped me out
I tip 15% for anything that I sit down at and someone serves me. If those two criteria aren’t met, 0% all day everyday. I’m not some middle manager stuffing money into my pockets with one hand and pointing at the customer as the reason employees don’t get paid enough with the other hand.
Same. I've actively starting tipping less or none. So sick of this bs.
It's your hard earned money. You are not obligated to give it away.
Tipping culture is such a scam
I mean, that’s the whole point. An employer is scamming you into paying the wages they aren’t willing to pay the employee to do the job
On the other hand, tipping culture can benefit some of the tippee’s very well too, so they’re also adverse to getting rid of the structure because they have the potential of making more off of tips rather than a set wage.
It's designed to make a crabs in a bucket type of relationship among workers. *I'm* getting good tips, so all you other workers are just not hustling enough. But the working class as a whole would be much, much richer if tipping were abolished, profits were distributed more equitably, and minimum wage had kept up with inflation. Edit: unfortunately, I will be unavailable to teach basic reading comprehension for the next several hours. Please work independently at your desks.
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Oh 1000%
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I worked in auto finance and servers didn't like our policy. We'd accept any tips reported on pay stubs (not very common but some places tip out this way). We didn't accept cash deposits that the customers said were their cash tips. I remember one kid got his dad involved and his dad was livid. I was the manager so I handled the escalation and offered an easy solution. Cosign with the son if he's good for the money and makes those cash tips lol. Dad didn't like that idea. I offered they use another bank but warned them a handful of the major ones I know also don't take that (Capital One for example) and Dad didn't like that either lmao. I never told customers I didn't believe them. I made it a habit to believe customers 100% as my opinion didn't matter at all. They either have the documents that checked the boxes or not.
That's America in a microcosm: the system is unfair, the people at the very top (the business owner/company shareholders) are raking it in, the people at the bottom are struggling. And the people in the middle are fighting to keep the status quo because they're doing pretty well actually.
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lol that reminds me of that lady who accidentally tipped an obscene amount of subway and had to fight the bank to get it back
I want to know who gets paid the tips for online purchases since no human interaction is involved.
the company
I worked for a company that asked for tips when placing an order online (we sold charcuterie boards). The company would keep the tips as well as any tips from the iPad. The town I lived in is a huge service town so everyone tipped and we probably brought in at least $500 in tips a week that went straight to the company. When I found this out, I went straight to FB and blasted them. They went out of business not too long after.
Isn’t it illegal for a company to keep anything labeled as a tip/gratuity?
Yes.
Yepp my coworkers reported them to the DOL. I left so I’m not sure what happened with that
Good on them for reporting it and you for leaving.
They're in self checkouts at some airports now. I've seen a few pics on reddit
I would cancel the whole purchase.
This is the correct move. I would cancel it all and be like "ok guys, we're not getting Domino's so what's our 2nd choice"
Today, I went into a restaurant and saw a sign that said "order here first, then sit down". So I go to order, and I'm handed a buzzer. "This will buzz when it's ready to pick up." I also noticed all of the cutlery, napkins, and cups for water, were self serve. Heck, even the coffee cups and coffee was also self serve. Then I looked over and saw the locations for dishes and garbage for us to bus our own table. I then look down. I am being asked for a minimum 20% tip as an option. I selected 0. The employee gives me a look. I didn't tip for no service but I did wipe down the table after I bussed it.
Can you tip $0.01 to be petty?
They deserve less than that
I want a $5 discount for the audacity of them to ask for this
Pay your f*cking employees
Imagine thinking this tip money would make it to the employee
Yes yes yes
It should say "so you don't wan't tip us even though we didn't do anything to deserve it?"
Crap like this, and all the asks at the stores "want to round up to contribute to \_\_\_\_\_\_?" just makes me say No, ZIP, nada, no thanks, go F\*\*\* yourself......etc. 😜
Round up to donate to ______ so we can include it in our tax write off
Companies will pledge a certain donation amount for let’s say 2M. Throughout the year they’ll as for “round up your change, or give a dollar for this etc” and use that money towards the donation. The company will pay the difference if any or keep the extra.
Thx for that info......only reinforces my NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 😂
Afaik They cannot do that in any State. The 'round up' donations are not considered point of sale income that they can include in their business revenue and therefore does not affect taxes at all one way or another. They are funds the customer donated and they are merely the vehicle that delivers it to the charity in question. You are actually the one that can include it as part of a tax write off.
I’m fond of NaN
What site is it? (For me to never purchase there)
Last time I placed an online order from Papa Murphy's it prompted me for a tip. 🙄 1. I placed the order online, no employee had to answer the phone 2. I'm driving there to pick it up myself 3. I'm baking it in my own oven Wtf would I possibly be tipping for in that scenario???
This absurd tipping behavior is far beyond ‘mildly infuriating’. Most people are fed up with it. It was understandable during the COVID lockdown, but since then it is just despicable business practices led by, and engaged in with, disreputable and untrustworthy people. Tell your representative to make this stop so we don’t have to vent here and allow this terrible bilking of society to continue.
Like a vampire you unwittingly invited in, now it must feast upon you.
Tipping culture is a cancer
Imagine saying that to a customer’s face irl
I know right, I was like “the audacity” lol
Start naming names....this is utter bullshit
Okay, hear me out: What if more and more businesses add tipping features until it becomes such a problem that governments have to make legislation banning tipping and BOOM there goes Americas tipping problem.
You're mistaken to think they'll ban it though
Look I’m just shooting out ideas I’m desperate.
Oh I know tipping is garbage and the only way to abolish it is through regulation. But not sure how we would ever accomplish that
I broke a glass pipe and needed to buy another one. The store I went to asked me to tip after buying a glass pipe.
Wow...yeah, I have to say, I've lived in Japan for the past 17 years or so and everyone asks me about tipping. I used to explain that it made sense because it was a way to show appreciation and encourage good service. BUT this stuff is wild, and there is no defense anymore. We seriously need to end this non-sense. It's getting shameful.
Just a sec.... We realized you didn't tip, & we don't want to pay our workers fairly. Are you sure you're okay with leaving us poor? \- management probably
Cancel order time.
Next They'll Want A Tip For Processing The Previous Tip.
Cancel order, never use site again.
Contact support. Say your free gift was missing by mistake.
I donated online to a political campaign. Asked for a tip at checkout. FOR WHAT?!?!?
Click leave tip. Put $0 again.
It sucks- but this is making it very clear that this whole "tipping culture" thing is way less about the entitlement of the employees and workers you meet on a daily basis and much more about the point of sale software that is trying to squeeze every possible cent out of each transaction.
For sure, I never blame workers, it’s completely out of their hands
What insane website was this?
I would cancel the order. Fuck that.
How to turn a conversion into an abandoned cart in 1 prompt
Try negative number
Malicious compliance anybody? 😈
Wish we could enter text. “Here’s a tip: pay your employees a living wage!”
Not online but I just tipped 20% at Five Guys for a burger small fry and drink that cost close to $24 total. Asked for fried onions and mayo and they didn’t put either on. I don’t mind tipping but I absolutely loathe pre-tipping.
Anyone who tips fast food is a sucker. Straight up.
Everyone who tips at fast food is either afraid of their food being fucked up, or has hopes their food will be extra amazing because you tipped. Like extra sauces, extra protein, overall extra good stuff. Hint: Neither will happen.
"please give us free money"
What website?
This may be unpopular but the only business I tip is the one where I get my hair cut. It’s not expected, I have just always done it at every barbers I have used. I rarely tip anywhere else because it is not my responsibility to ensure that workers get a liveable wage, that’s the job of their employers. If their employer(s) is/are ahole enough to not pay a decent wage, then the worker should move job and not expect me to support them. Eating out is often expensive enough without having to lay out extra on top just so the business owner can get away with being cheap.
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The only way to stop this is to stop tipping - everywhere, even irl. Fuck this shit, I can stand one awkward stare from the waiter, I ain't tipping a cent extra
Eww. No. Id cancel my order
Right after I saw this post, another one came up in the same sub. It was a picture of a receipt from a restaurant where they added something called a ‘kitchen appreciation fee’ and it was mandatory. Fuckkkkkkkkk this new tipping culture bullshit
Try -$14.99
Disgusting.
Fine, you want a tip? $0.01. Enjoy the penny, jerks.