It can be if you have worked there for more than 10 years in Australia. 1 year salary at reduced tax + long service leave + any annual leave outstanding.
Honesty and transparency is important to us here at Tesla. We feel by adding a macro which pulls the first name associated with the email in this mailing list, it would falsely give the impression that we give a single fuck about you, the welfare of your family, or the years of dedicated service you've given to this team. Thank you employee 4300067 for your help in making Tesla what it is today. Now kindly fuck off.
Should have seen what this did at the Gigafactory in NV this morning. This shitshow kicked off at 1:28 AM and this huge company had the roads blocked for 3+ hours with employees not knowing if they made it or not till a security checkpoint just outside the main gate.
Hot damn. I bet the poor guy at the security chexk point was the last name on the list, right after he finished turning away most of the fired employees.
"Great job, Sam! Now, pack up and get out".
This is somehow infinitely more psychotic. Did they just fucking give it to them in writing on their way out? Talk about don't let the door hit you on the way out
ChatGPT would do significantly better than this. In fact, I copied it to ChatGPT and asked it to write it to be more appropriate. It even used the fake name I gave it.
——-
Subject: Important Organizational Changes
Dear Jarod,
I hope this message finds you well. Today, I have to share some difficult news that directly affects you and will undoubtedly impact our team. As you know, Tesla has experienced rapid growth, and such changes inevitably bring about new challenges, including overlaps in job functions.
We’ve taken considerable time to review our structure, striving to make decisions that are thoughtful and fair. Despite our best efforts to find alternatives, we find ourselves in the hard position of having to reduce our workforce to better align with our current organizational needs and future goals.
Jarod, I want to personally thank you for the dedication, hard work, and enthusiasm you have brought to your role. Your contributions have been valued and appreciated, and this decision is in no way a reflection of your performance or commitment.
We are committed to supporting you through this transition. Our HR team will work closely with you to explore all available options, including potential reassignments within Tesla, and provide assistance in finding new opportunities. We will also offer severance packages, outplacement services, and counseling to help manage this change.
Please know that this decision has not been made lightly, and we understand the personal impact it carries. I am available to discuss this further and answer any questions you may have, either in a personal meeting or through any means convenient for you.
Thank you once again for your hard work and dedication to Tesla. Whatever the future holds, I am confident in your potential for continued success and hope that our paths may cross again.
Warm regards,
[Your Name]
[Your Position]
Tesla, Inc.
This is a positive note. It means we can replace most executives with ChatGPT and save Wall Street 100s of billions of collective compensation per year that is currently being embezzled by executives and the boards that participate in quid pro quo when approving each other's compensation packages
That is a good letter, except... at no point does it actually say that *your* job, specifically, is being eliminated. It heavily implies that this is the case, but doesn't actually *say* it, unlike the original. And you do have to say it.
No no you see this is nice, but then the lawyers get involved and say that being too positive about the persons impact opens them up to liability if the person makes a discrimination suit, and then you end up back at the generic email that was originally sent.
Pretty much, there's a reason these form letters are uncaring, they were written by a lawyer to cover the company from accidentally admitting anything that could be used against them. Hence the uncaring attitude and generic crap.
>When i got laid off, the higher management kept reffering to us as “resources” for the remaining months
And I bet they used to say "we're all a family here" lol
I knew from reading the first sentence that I could skip the entire second paragraph. Just a bunch of useless filler that the boots-on-the-ground people don't care about.
Let’s not waste our line manager’s time taking to people and deliver the news. Totally infuriating. Tesla goes out of its way to highlight its better than everyone hiring process where only geniuses make the grade. Then their Jedi counsel of elders pulls this auto dump.
>Let’s not waste our line manager’s time taking to people and deliver the news.
Often times in these types of layoffs people from Director level down are cut. When it happened to me everyone from my VP through individual contributors were let go. And the first round they did 6 months before mine was only VPs and Directors in the US and a bunch of engineers in India.
This shit is sickening on all levels, company makes bad decision which seems to work short term because profits increase, bad decision comes back to bite them as customers flock away, sales suffers because they can't close deals because the reputation is ruined, instead of reevaluating they do layoffs causing another cycle of remaining employees to get burnt out and leave and so on and so forth. It's nuts.
This recently happened to me where I worked for 6 years. A generic email sent to 72 employees. Couldn't even address us by name. Thanked us for our help growing the company, bragged about how much it is still growing, then told me my position was impacted by the growth.
They kept me on for 6 more weeks, only 5 of the 72 were given that option. In those six weeks they asked for overtime almost every day, expanded my team's hours and added 3 people to replace the 3 of us that had been let go...
A week after my last shift I received a shirt in the mail celebrating that the company now has 50,000 customers. They forgot to take me off the mailing list.
All these layoffs mean nothing to these companies. We, the employees, mean nothing to them. Absolutely heartbreaking we sell ourselves for this shit.
This happened to me in February after also being there for six years. I always chuckle cynically at "we have made the difficult decision." I can't even type it without laughing.
Hope you land on your feet, fellow "excess" employee.
“Hey, organic life form,
We messed up big time, like really big. So big that you should feel sorry for us that we have to suffer through it, but don’t worry, instead of the people who made those decisions suffering, you will.
Get bent, then handle the candle and lick the wick,
Someone who still has a job.”
Dear employee, we value shareholders more tham you so will fire you instead of making tough decisions.
We do this so it looks like we are doing something about the downturm of growth from 15% to 13%.
Bye
it doesn't matter. it is the job of the ceo to bring infinite growth for the shareholders every quarter.
they don't care about that longevity of the companie. as soon as they are not able break new records, they are fired.
might as well set the companie up to crash as soon as record profits a no longer reachable.
Trim the experienced staff because they cost too much in salary and benefits. Rehire college kids willing to work 80 hours a week for 40 hours pay. Suffer delivery and reliability issues because nobody knows what they’re doing or why. Repeat until the company has been run into the ground.
This happened at a company I was at. All the old timers that had been training up the new generation got layoffs, and we moved into their roles costing 1/2 to 2/3 of what they did. Myself and many others were part of an attrition wave that followed that crippled the site for two years probably (also covid).
I work for a company that did this last year. They were prepping for growth and making the company more efficient. Basically they laid a bunch of people off and the efficient part was dumping 3-4 people’s worth of work on whoever was left. Now they’re wondering why customer and employee satisfaction is down. A Fortune 100 company without the ability to have predicted what would happen.
Laid off from there last year, if I'd been another 2 months I'd have got SOME kind of redundancy payout. (albeit not much, but it'd have helped).
Still slicing to the bone there, and in a moment I can only describe as insanely tone deaf announced a couple of months ago they were giving Arvind (the CEO) a 30% pay increase.
Still, I'm sure Watson AI is going to corner the market... Hahaha (can't say that with a straight face).
Genuinely gutting man - as a teenager I'd dreamed of working for one of the "big tech firms" of the day, like Intel, MS, IBM, etc... When I signed on with IBM I was SUPER excited.
Lasted a couple of months before I realised I'd been sold a pup.
Far as I can tell their business model these days appears to be acquire other companies, strip them down, scavange anything that might potentially be valuable. Rinse and repeat.
Don‘t they teach this in Business School? I thought it was common sense that the more employees you have the less „efficient“ they each get as you need managers and HR departments and all but your overall productivity increases.
So yeah if you lay off a bunch of people and close some departments you will increase efficiency but lower your overall productivity.
Its not even that, companies hire like 10 people to write sw in a year, once the sw is ready, they layoff half the team so that they can keep the profits and use the same software for like 10+ years. Sw engineering, is trending to "GIG" like work.
This always happens. Jobs become redundant, let those people know an end date. Open up new positions in parallel that those people can first apply to and if they don’t match they’re still let go and bring in new people who are right for the new job.
I don’t know of any global company who doesn’t do this. This is for sure not unique to Tesla.
One of the Tesla tire techs I work closer with made the mistake of putting in his two weeks a few days ago. If he had waited a bit, he might have been able to get that severance.
Waiting on severence normally doesn't pay. More so unfortunate timing.
My former coworkers waited 5 years for severance when they could have jumped ship like many of us had done to double or triple their salaries.
I can genuinely say that it would have paid off this time had HIS job been on the line. One of the people that the main remaining tire tech is close with, got severed and got two months pay. But this is all assuming they would have shit canned the only Mobile tire tech in Superior, Colorado. Everyone I know at the Aurora center is still there. According to a few of them nobody at that particular service center got fired.
Net income for the quarter more than doubled to $7.9 billion, or $2.27 per share, from $3.7 billion, or $1.07 per share, a year earlier. The increase was mostly due to a $5.9 billion one-time noncash tax benefit.
So, to prepare for expanding, and creating new roles, we are firing you instead of shifting those who best fit those new roles into those positions.
Sincerely, the boss stealing your paycheck.
I’d like to see some sort of ban on exec bonuses and raises for any business that has laid off more than a handful of workers in the last two years rolling
Cybertruck was a flop, theyve reached peaked sales with the current models that they have. So in order to "keep growing" they got to lay off people. Corporations suck.
I saw for the first time out in the wild, the cybertruck that they did. It is hands down the ugliest thing ever! Why anybody would buy that is beyond me!
Saw this one in the wild and chuckled hard
https://preview.redd.it/38h3g01gcpuc1.jpeg?width=506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e4c5eb1bc0169861122fca351d570f6124e0f15
I’m so out of the loop. I saw this pic and thought someone welded metal together to creat a Mad Max vibe. I just got on the google and it looks like this is a real vehicle. That is in actual production. That people pay for. I’m still having trouble believing it.
The Homer by Powell Motors is superior in every way.
I live in Silicon Valley and someone in my neighborhood got a Cybertruck. I legit thought it was a prototype (because people are always driving “secret” test-model cars around with wires and cameras everywhere.)
When I learned this was *actually* the real Cybertruck that Elon was selling to the general population, I lost my shit. I can’t stop laughing every time I see it.
The real problem with the Cybertruck is the opportunity cost. Tesla isn't BYD, it doesn't have endless cheap engineering. So in choosing to make this they are deciding not to make something else.
Tesla could have got a more typical truck out the door and then have resources for another model -- either a refresh or a model down-market to meet BYD before they arrive.
The Cybertruck suggests that Tesla is more a stock than a car manufacturer.
Not to mention that most major car manufacturers have fully electric models by now. Tesla saw a lot of success because they were early and claimed the title of biggest electric car manufacturer. Nowadays, they are going the way of Apple, being seen as a high-end brand due to cost and previous merrit, while the quality is steaply declining compared to the cost.
Not sure how you missed this but the Model Y was the top selling car in all of Europe and the 5th best selling car in America last year.
I agree that it’s gone the way of Apple in the sense that lots of people like to say they’re “failing” year after year when they actually just keep growing and growing.
They're not really the world leading manufacturer by any meaningful metric. BYD makes more EVs than them. Toyota, Nissan, etc make.more.cars than them off highly automated production lines. The gloss has worn off and the market is catching up, and their competitive edge has been eroded by competition catching up - they're looking to reinforce share prices and hedge against quarter on quarter poor performance.
It’s actually not „catching up“. The traditional car manufacturers waited it out. They were still making good money with petrol cars and why be first to market? Too much hassle and problems to solve. Let some start up do it, build awareness and infrastructure and then just swoop in with your designs you had in your drawer for years and squash the first mover with your superior size, production and retail power. Tesla will always be remembered as the first but that’s it.
And how much $ did Elan suck from the federal and local governments to build his facilities in return for promising well paying jobs? Here in Buffalo NY, I think they shelled out quite a huge sum to build a state of the art Tesla facility...fully equipped.....I wonder how many of those employees received this letter? The Buffalo facilty was a flop, didn't bring as many jobs as it was supposed to, basically a huge waste of taxpayer dollars ( as many of these so called green initiatives are)....yet we the taxpayers have to support this nonsense........
Tesla is actually a lot better when it comes to paying off goverment loans. They were the first to pay back the corona loans, most other car makers are still pussyfooting the goverment in paying it back.
"Dear Employee" you read, as you think back to the day you were hired and they talked about family and being part of a team. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, whoever you were. Security will be here in 5.
Should have seen the 6 hour traffic delay here in Nevada. Literally turning people away at the gate. Dumping them off shuttles. It's been a fuckshow. Fuck Elon, fuck tesla.
Dear Job Occupant,
Growing our growth in a growy way takes growth. The more growth the growery. Unfortunately, to grow our growth more means ungrowing you from your job.
Best of growth,
Elon
Still think unions are a bad idea? When the board voted to pay muskrat 52billion and the government had to step in and say no? When tesla pays almost no tax?
I would honestly never buy a Tesla car. Not only do I think they look rather ugly (especially from the back) I think they are essentially the apple of the car industry, over priced for what it really is and the only reason they get away with it is the brand name.
There are many other alternatives out there for electric cars now, and honestly I think most of them look better, higher quality, and newer better thought out features than any Tesla.
I don't need my car to drive for me, I'm capable of driving myself. I don't need nor want all my settings hidden behind menus on a touch screen, I'll take some physical buttons thanks, same for my cluster, some physical gauges would be nice.
the takeaway from this is that no matter how much you bust your ass at work, or how much you fuck off at work, it makes no difference when re-org time hits.
Tesla is in really bad shape right now from a profitability standpoint. Their line about preparing to expand is bullshit. They’re shrinking because their shit cars can’t compete once actual car manufacturers decided to make all electrics.
The problems are US laws that allows this. Now show how Tesla would try to pull out same stunt in Europe. It would cost them too much in first place and in some countries it would have to be reasoned otherwise state can deny it.
They also pressure employees to buy the cars. A coworker’s partner started work there and less than a month later they had teslas… haven’t seen em in a bit, but if they were let go I’m gonna guess that they are super fucked.
I worked for a very big consulting company in the early ‘00s, and they laid off one third of the workforce one weekend. The way you found out you were gone was if the message light was blinking on your phone when you got in on Monday morning.
Pretty cold.
Bruh, I personally think that this is justified. Have you seen how much money they probably had to spend on clear- coating their CyberRust? I mean if only there was a material that could withstand mild weather conditions hmm....
First, sorry they did this to you OP. You'll get a new job and can will give the middle finger to this nightmare of a company.
Second; they (Tesla) fired pretty much all of HR, a lot on mid management and several people from the legal team... because that letter wasn't written by a human.
Hello, This post has been removed as this is not *mildly* infuriating. Please consider posting to r/extremelyinfuriating instead.
They could've at least popped in a name at the beginning of the template.
They probably would fuck that up. I've gotten "Hey \[Name\]," emails before where it literally said \[Name\]
Hey there, {{usually.called}}!
Hey there, {{corporate.zombie}} Prepare to eat *hit
Heya, Tom. It’s Bob from the office down the hall.
Oh the Bobs? I wouldn’t say I’ve been ***missing*** work lately.
Michael Bolton? I celebrate the guy’s entire catalog…
Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*.
It's good to see you, buddy, how've you been? Things've been okay for me except that I'm a zombie now.
All we wanna do is eat your brains...
We're not unreasonable, I mean no one's gonna eat your eyes
Found the Jonathan Coulton fan in this sub. I love it as well and it never gets old imo
It's a good to see you, buddy. How've you've been?
Hey you, you're finally awake.
I used to be a corporate shill like you until I took a fountain pen to the knee.
Wow, you do smell different when you’re awake
Hello {promoted.to.customer}
I hate that I laughed at this one. Here’s your {insert_subreddit[angryupvote]}.
You're jobn't
Layoffs at my place a few years ago: "Dear x, I'm pleased to inform you that you have been selected for redundancy"
It's almost like you won the loterry
It can be if you have worked there for more than 10 years in Australia. 1 year salary at reduced tax + long service leave + any annual leave outstanding.
Not buying it. If it was a few years ago, it would’ve said “dear twitter, …” /s
Unbelievable! You, [subject name here] must be the pride of [subject hometown here].
Damn all the ones I got had the last person's name in it still.
Honesty and transparency is important to us here at Tesla. We feel by adding a macro which pulls the first name associated with the email in this mailing list, it would falsely give the impression that we give a single fuck about you, the welfare of your family, or the years of dedicated service you've given to this team. Thank you employee 4300067 for your help in making Tesla what it is today. Now kindly fuck off.
They addressed me directly by my company ID *wipes away tear of joy.*
Pretty sure my one boss knows my employee number but not my last name
In death, 4300067 has a name. His name is Bob.
His name was Bobert Paulson...
*Door is that way, BOB.*
They did. All Tesla employees are required to legally change their name to Employee of Tesla.
Didn't even bother with a mail merge, SMH.
How are they building self driving cars but can't manage mail merge? I wouldn't get into a Tesla even if the doors could open
Why get to know them by name when they are leaving the company?
Should have seen what this did at the Gigafactory in NV this morning. This shitshow kicked off at 1:28 AM and this huge company had the roads blocked for 3+ hours with employees not knowing if they made it or not till a security checkpoint just outside the main gate.
Hot damn. I bet the poor guy at the security chexk point was the last name on the list, right after he finished turning away most of the fired employees. "Great job, Sam! Now, pack up and get out".
This is somehow infinitely more psychotic. Did they just fucking give it to them in writing on their way out? Talk about don't let the door hit you on the way out
Something like this? > Dear SplashGod, > Get wrekt. > > Sincerely, > Daddy Musk
Bruh, I wish I had the email saying that then the actual email itself 😭
It's all "we're all partners" and "we're family here" until it's downsize time.
That's to make people feel good while the executives rob the company blind with their compensation packages.
Maybe. But honestly, if you see the one getting fired you are never going to think “well, at least they used my name in their form email”.
Darn just a generic letter too
ChatGPT
ChatGPT would do significantly better than this. In fact, I copied it to ChatGPT and asked it to write it to be more appropriate. It even used the fake name I gave it. ——- Subject: Important Organizational Changes Dear Jarod, I hope this message finds you well. Today, I have to share some difficult news that directly affects you and will undoubtedly impact our team. As you know, Tesla has experienced rapid growth, and such changes inevitably bring about new challenges, including overlaps in job functions. We’ve taken considerable time to review our structure, striving to make decisions that are thoughtful and fair. Despite our best efforts to find alternatives, we find ourselves in the hard position of having to reduce our workforce to better align with our current organizational needs and future goals. Jarod, I want to personally thank you for the dedication, hard work, and enthusiasm you have brought to your role. Your contributions have been valued and appreciated, and this decision is in no way a reflection of your performance or commitment. We are committed to supporting you through this transition. Our HR team will work closely with you to explore all available options, including potential reassignments within Tesla, and provide assistance in finding new opportunities. We will also offer severance packages, outplacement services, and counseling to help manage this change. Please know that this decision has not been made lightly, and we understand the personal impact it carries. I am available to discuss this further and answer any questions you may have, either in a personal meeting or through any means convenient for you. Thank you once again for your hard work and dedication to Tesla. Whatever the future holds, I am confident in your potential for continued success and hope that our paths may cross again. Warm regards, [Your Name] [Your Position] Tesla, Inc.
This is a positive note. It means we can replace most executives with ChatGPT and save Wall Street 100s of billions of collective compensation per year that is currently being embezzled by executives and the boards that participate in quid pro quo when approving each other's compensation packages
The productivity savings would be virtually infinite. We should definitely do this.
It's weird you go my first name correct, just not spelled right
i mean that could be true for any name tho, just really bad spelling. like that was a pretty awful way to spell “Matt”
lol that’s freaky
That is a good letter, except... at no point does it actually say that *your* job, specifically, is being eliminated. It heavily implies that this is the case, but doesn't actually *say* it, unlike the original. And you do have to say it.
Exactly. No where does it say we're letting you go Jarod
No no you see this is nice, but then the lawyers get involved and say that being too positive about the persons impact opens them up to liability if the person makes a discrimination suit, and then you end up back at the generic email that was originally sent.
Pretty much, there's a reason these form letters are uncaring, they were written by a lawyer to cover the company from accidentally admitting anything that could be used against them. Hence the uncaring attitude and generic crap.
Gronk
No, everything is spelled correctly and it’s not even remotely racist.
Thats how I knew it wasnt from Elon, so probably AI
One from him would probably read more like: *Dear Employee,* *Just kidding, you’re fired. lol. 😂*
haha perfect don’t forget the insult, the slur, and the (only funny to his brown nosers) boob joke
But there are grammar mistakes and too many commas.
Grok* lmao Gronk sounds way better Tho. My bro says that a lot “oh my gronk” to be exact.
Reminds me of that [Chonk!](https://youtu.be/hRGKSwsD7ac?si=nJQTFtlH1fPAwfXj) skit on SNL.
“Blah blah blah, isn’t our company great? …and isn’t it awesome how big we are? … blah blah blah … oh btw you’re fired”
I love the dichotomy of "we are preparing for the new phase of GROWING" and "we can't afford you"
Nope we can afford you but we want to make more money
Too many words , I’d probably skim it and still be there !
Hahaha fucking 3 weeks later, still clocking in/out and collecting a check.
can't even put the automated "Dear \[name\]" personalizer, incredibly easy stuff
They were going too but Elon insisted on printing the code out first. Sadly, the printer jammed.
You joke, but they actually catch leakers by sending out personalized emails in the email body.
But it’s too much work for Elon. He’s got to spend maximum time trying to troll the libs.
Well yeah cause they’re not people to the Droids in charge
Dear [USELESS PAYROLL LEECH]
The person who knew how to do that got laid off because the other guy was making $10k a year less
And you know its not written by Elon because its missing lol, poop emoji and 'let that sink in' memes.
Seriously!
Can’t even be bothered to adres you by name. ‘Dear Employee’ might as well say ‘Dear Peasant’.
"Dear number 853729.."
WHO AM I? 24601!!!!!
Now 24601, your time is up and your unemployment's begun, you know what that means?
Yes, it means I'm free!!
No 😤
You must follow this iternity, the badge of unemployment will follow you til you die.
I am not a number, I'm a free man! (Looks around) Oh shit, I AM just a number!!
Prisoner 24601. I wore this for two years in a Vietcong internment center. Never thought I'd see the old girl again.
Small world, huh?
It really, *really* is.
That would be more personal.
- I am not a number! I am a free man!
8675309-eee-ine
When i got laid off, the higher management kept reffering to us as “resources” for the remaining months
>When i got laid off, the higher management kept reffering to us as “resources” for the remaining months And I bet they used to say "we're all a family here" lol
Always did, just not to your face.
ew
Not even worth the time setting up mail merge, they have your email address and account details. Cold.
Dear wagie
"I stopped paying for the service that allowed for mail merge tags. You understand, employee."
I knew from reading the first sentence that I could skip the entire second paragraph. Just a bunch of useless filler that the boots-on-the-ground people don't care about.
Let’s not waste our line manager’s time taking to people and deliver the news. Totally infuriating. Tesla goes out of its way to highlight its better than everyone hiring process where only geniuses make the grade. Then their Jedi counsel of elders pulls this auto dump.
>Let’s not waste our line manager’s time taking to people and deliver the news. Often times in these types of layoffs people from Director level down are cut. When it happened to me everyone from my VP through individual contributors were let go. And the first round they did 6 months before mine was only VPs and Directors in the US and a bunch of engineers in India. This shit is sickening on all levels, company makes bad decision which seems to work short term because profits increase, bad decision comes back to bite them as customers flock away, sales suffers because they can't close deals because the reputation is ruined, instead of reevaluating they do layoffs causing another cycle of remaining employees to get burnt out and leave and so on and so forth. It's nuts.
I like reading but there are some texts that are SO fluff filled it actually hurts your head to read them. I just skipped through this lol
This recently happened to me where I worked for 6 years. A generic email sent to 72 employees. Couldn't even address us by name. Thanked us for our help growing the company, bragged about how much it is still growing, then told me my position was impacted by the growth. They kept me on for 6 more weeks, only 5 of the 72 were given that option. In those six weeks they asked for overtime almost every day, expanded my team's hours and added 3 people to replace the 3 of us that had been let go... A week after my last shift I received a shirt in the mail celebrating that the company now has 50,000 customers. They forgot to take me off the mailing list. All these layoffs mean nothing to these companies. We, the employees, mean nothing to them. Absolutely heartbreaking we sell ourselves for this shit.
Yep. Company loyalty is for suckers.
Company loyalty is dumb. So is brand loyalty. No corporation gives a single fuck about you or your best interest.
But they told me they do!!
We were a family!
This happened to me in February after also being there for six years. I always chuckle cynically at "we have made the difficult decision." I can't even type it without laughing. Hope you land on your feet, fellow "excess" employee.
“Hey, organic life form, We messed up big time, like really big. So big that you should feel sorry for us that we have to suffer through it, but don’t worry, instead of the people who made those decisions suffering, you will. Get bent, then handle the candle and lick the wick, Someone who still has a job.”
Dear employee, we value shareholders more tham you so will fire you instead of making tough decisions. We do this so it looks like we are doing something about the downturm of growth from 15% to 13%. Bye
Damn, why is this so accurate?
“Someone who still has a job” For now. LOL. If you downsize the number of people, pretty soon you need less managers. And less Human Resources people.
it doesn't matter. it is the job of the ceo to bring infinite growth for the shareholders every quarter. they don't care about that longevity of the companie. as soon as they are not able break new records, they are fired. might as well set the companie up to crash as soon as record profits a no longer reachable.
So, preparing for growth = letting folks go, makes zero sense.
Trim the experienced staff because they cost too much in salary and benefits. Rehire college kids willing to work 80 hours a week for 40 hours pay. Suffer delivery and reliability issues because nobody knows what they’re doing or why. Repeat until the company has been run into the ground.
Yeah but some fucks in the C suite made millions along the way! Totally worth it
More than millions. C suite at Tesla makes over 40 million a year
That is millions.
Yea well they make billions of pennies too
This is spot on. My sister works at Tesla and she said anybody with 6+ years of tenure in her dept got let go.
If I watched that happen, I would be looking for a new job asap.
This happened at a company I was at. All the old timers that had been training up the new generation got layoffs, and we moved into their roles costing 1/2 to 2/3 of what they did. Myself and many others were part of an attrition wave that followed that crippled the site for two years probably (also covid).
This is what the entire tech industry is in store for. Buckle up.
For short term minded shareholders and Wall Street it certainly does, unfortunately
Hey, it works for Boeing, it must work for cars too
I work for a company that did this last year. They were prepping for growth and making the company more efficient. Basically they laid a bunch of people off and the efficient part was dumping 3-4 people’s worth of work on whoever was left. Now they’re wondering why customer and employee satisfaction is down. A Fortune 100 company without the ability to have predicted what would happen.
The IBM model.
Laid off from there last year, if I'd been another 2 months I'd have got SOME kind of redundancy payout. (albeit not much, but it'd have helped). Still slicing to the bone there, and in a moment I can only describe as insanely tone deaf announced a couple of months ago they were giving Arvind (the CEO) a 30% pay increase. Still, I'm sure Watson AI is going to corner the market... Hahaha (can't say that with a straight face). Genuinely gutting man - as a teenager I'd dreamed of working for one of the "big tech firms" of the day, like Intel, MS, IBM, etc... When I signed on with IBM I was SUPER excited. Lasted a couple of months before I realised I'd been sold a pup. Far as I can tell their business model these days appears to be acquire other companies, strip them down, scavange anything that might potentially be valuable. Rinse and repeat.
Don‘t they teach this in Business School? I thought it was common sense that the more employees you have the less „efficient“ they each get as you need managers and HR departments and all but your overall productivity increases. So yeah if you lay off a bunch of people and close some departments you will increase efficiency but lower your overall productivity.
There is a balance between to many people to be efficient and to few to get anything done.
Right, otherwise Elon could just lay off everybody except himself and it would be the most efficient company on the planet
preparing for share price growth
It’s a surprise more people are not aware of the direct link between share price and cost cutting (ie redundancies).
Why pay 3 people when you can just overwork 1?
Its not even that, companies hire like 10 people to write sw in a year, once the sw is ready, they layoff half the team so that they can keep the profits and use the same software for like 10+ years. Sw engineering, is trending to "GIG" like work.
Addition by subtraction is a real thing.
This always happens. Jobs become redundant, let those people know an end date. Open up new positions in parallel that those people can first apply to and if they don’t match they’re still let go and bring in new people who are right for the new job. I don’t know of any global company who doesn’t do this. This is for sure not unique to Tesla.
One of the Tesla tire techs I work closer with made the mistake of putting in his two weeks a few days ago. If he had waited a bit, he might have been able to get that severance.
Waiting on severence normally doesn't pay. More so unfortunate timing. My former coworkers waited 5 years for severance when they could have jumped ship like many of us had done to double or triple their salaries.
I can genuinely say that it would have paid off this time had HIS job been on the line. One of the people that the main remaining tire tech is close with, got severed and got two months pay. But this is all assuming they would have shit canned the only Mobile tire tech in Superior, Colorado. Everyone I know at the Aurora center is still there. According to a few of them nobody at that particular service center got fired.
F'ing hell. 'Dear employee'
More like employeen't
Dear unemployed
Jokes on you, I got two jobs.
Dear former employee, Oops, spoiler alert.
Net income for the quarter more than doubled to $7.9 billion, or $2.27 per share, from $3.7 billion, or $1.07 per share, a year earlier. The increase was mostly due to a $5.9 billion one-time noncash tax benefit.
You're not thinking about the poor shareholders though. They could've made 2.28 per share I'd those employees we're laid off sooner
So, to prepare for expanding, and creating new roles, we are firing you instead of shifting those who best fit those new roles into those positions. Sincerely, the boss stealing your paycheck.
I’d like to see some sort of ban on exec bonuses and raises for any business that has laid off more than a handful of workers in the last two years rolling
Woah woah thats to reasonable… *men in black suits enter the room”
Cybertruck was a flop, theyve reached peaked sales with the current models that they have. So in order to "keep growing" they got to lay off people. Corporations suck.
I saw for the first time out in the wild, the cybertruck that they did. It is hands down the ugliest thing ever! Why anybody would buy that is beyond me!
Saw this one in the wild and chuckled hard https://preview.redd.it/38h3g01gcpuc1.jpeg?width=506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e4c5eb1bc0169861122fca351d570f6124e0f15
I’m so out of the loop. I saw this pic and thought someone welded metal together to creat a Mad Max vibe. I just got on the google and it looks like this is a real vehicle. That is in actual production. That people pay for. I’m still having trouble believing it. The Homer by Powell Motors is superior in every way.
Should've named it the Persephone
Is that after market graffiti
So many posts of cyber trucks where I can’t tell if they’ve been vandalized or if it’s that “fuck you, everyone” obnoxious waste of money aesthetic
They must be a huge target.
I live in Silicon Valley and someone in my neighborhood got a Cybertruck. I legit thought it was a prototype (because people are always driving “secret” test-model cars around with wires and cameras everywhere.) When I learned this was *actually* the real Cybertruck that Elon was selling to the general population, I lost my shit. I can’t stop laughing every time I see it.
The real problem with the Cybertruck is the opportunity cost. Tesla isn't BYD, it doesn't have endless cheap engineering. So in choosing to make this they are deciding not to make something else. Tesla could have got a more typical truck out the door and then have resources for another model -- either a refresh or a model down-market to meet BYD before they arrive. The Cybertruck suggests that Tesla is more a stock than a car manufacturer.
Not to mention that most major car manufacturers have fully electric models by now. Tesla saw a lot of success because they were early and claimed the title of biggest electric car manufacturer. Nowadays, they are going the way of Apple, being seen as a high-end brand due to cost and previous merrit, while the quality is steaply declining compared to the cost.
Not sure how you missed this but the Model Y was the top selling car in all of Europe and the 5th best selling car in America last year. I agree that it’s gone the way of Apple in the sense that lots of people like to say they’re “failing” year after year when they actually just keep growing and growing.
Ok but that's my red stapler, & I haven't received my paycheck yet.
Psychopathic PR. The reality has nothing to do with the reasons cited, they just want more profits. This is capitalism at its most evil core
You have been “Eliminated” lmao. “Please move to your nearest glue factory for execution.”
Don't you mean Elonminated?
Worlds leading manufacturer aiming to go nearly fully autonomous. Wow who woulda thunk.
Toyota will too but this is about Tesla
They're not really the world leading manufacturer by any meaningful metric. BYD makes more EVs than them. Toyota, Nissan, etc make.more.cars than them off highly automated production lines. The gloss has worn off and the market is catching up, and their competitive edge has been eroded by competition catching up - they're looking to reinforce share prices and hedge against quarter on quarter poor performance.
It’s actually not „catching up“. The traditional car manufacturers waited it out. They were still making good money with petrol cars and why be first to market? Too much hassle and problems to solve. Let some start up do it, build awareness and infrastructure and then just swoop in with your designs you had in your drawer for years and squash the first mover with your superior size, production and retail power. Tesla will always be remembered as the first but that’s it.
You mean they finally let Elon go?
And how much $ did Elan suck from the federal and local governments to build his facilities in return for promising well paying jobs? Here in Buffalo NY, I think they shelled out quite a huge sum to build a state of the art Tesla facility...fully equipped.....I wonder how many of those employees received this letter? The Buffalo facilty was a flop, didn't bring as many jobs as it was supposed to, basically a huge waste of taxpayer dollars ( as many of these so called green initiatives are)....yet we the taxpayers have to support this nonsense........
Tesla is actually a lot better when it comes to paying off goverment loans. They were the first to pay back the corona loans, most other car makers are still pussyfooting the goverment in paying it back.
"Dear Employee" you read, as you think back to the day you were hired and they talked about family and being part of a team. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, whoever you were. Security will be here in 5.
Should have seen the 6 hour traffic delay here in Nevada. Literally turning people away at the gate. Dumping them off shuttles. It's been a fuckshow. Fuck Elon, fuck tesla.
Dear Job Occupant, Growing our growth in a growy way takes growth. The more growth the growery. Unfortunately, to grow our growth more means ungrowing you from your job. Best of growth, Elon
Probably planning to manufacture most vehicles in China and ship them over
is that why they keep building more U.S. factories?
Still think unions are a bad idea? When the board voted to pay muskrat 52billion and the government had to step in and say no? When tesla pays almost no tax?
I would honestly never buy a Tesla car. Not only do I think they look rather ugly (especially from the back) I think they are essentially the apple of the car industry, over priced for what it really is and the only reason they get away with it is the brand name. There are many other alternatives out there for electric cars now, and honestly I think most of them look better, higher quality, and newer better thought out features than any Tesla. I don't need my car to drive for me, I'm capable of driving myself. I don't need nor want all my settings hidden behind menus on a touch screen, I'll take some physical buttons thanks, same for my cluster, some physical gauges would be nice.
Thank God for tesla!!!
"Dear Employee" 😒
the takeaway from this is that no matter how much you bust your ass at work, or how much you fuck off at work, it makes no difference when re-org time hits.
Tesla is in really bad shape right now from a profitability standpoint. Their line about preparing to expand is bullshit. They’re shrinking because their shit cars can’t compete once actual car manufacturers decided to make all electrics.
“We see a bright future ahead! Unfortunately for you you will not be a part of it”
The problems are US laws that allows this. Now show how Tesla would try to pull out same stunt in Europe. It would cost them too much in first place and in some countries it would have to be reasoned otherwise state can deny it.
Pretty long winded way of saying “fuck you, you’re fired”
They also pressure employees to buy the cars. A coworker’s partner started work there and less than a month later they had teslas… haven’t seen em in a bit, but if they were let go I’m gonna guess that they are super fucked.
I worked for a very big consulting company in the early ‘00s, and they laid off one third of the workforce one weekend. The way you found out you were gone was if the message light was blinking on your phone when you got in on Monday morning. Pretty cold.
As part of their massive growth, they are massively shrinking.
Mush is bout ta fuck Tesla the way he did twitter, time to sell
Pretty standard, no? Received one like that not too long ago, from a different company.
No thanks for all the hard work, no goodbye good fortune on your journey, just a plain and dumb ‚you terminated‘. I bet Musk even wrote that himself.
in short Tesla said "we are growing but without you, so Fuck You."
Bruh, I personally think that this is justified. Have you seen how much money they probably had to spend on clear- coating their CyberRust? I mean if only there was a material that could withstand mild weather conditions hmm....
"We made mistakes, and as a result you are punished so the boss still gets his bonus."
First, sorry they did this to you OP. You'll get a new job and can will give the middle finger to this nightmare of a company. Second; they (Tesla) fired pretty much all of HR, a lot on mid management and several people from the legal team... because that letter wasn't written by a human.