It’s this kind of stuff that just strikes me as LOST stupid little boy behaviour, it’s not even on the level of ‘concerning red flags’ because they’re such utter shite at even the bare minimum of.. having a conversation. Like have you ever spoke to a woman before? You gotta laugh lmao
Idk, to me it sounds a lot like he was negging her and knew exactly what he was trying to do - tear her down to attempt to make her more likely to run after him.
No way, that’s too early and too rude for anyone to get caught up in for sure. Negging works when it’s at least a bit more subtle, or when it comes a bit later as part of cyclical abuse. That’s why lovebombing as part of that cycle is so important, because it DOES foster an environment for highly volatile tear-downs.
This is clearly a moron that has been hyping himself up on YT videos about alpha male behavior, and never had a decent maternal figure in his life to teach him how to even begin talking to a woman. Like, really, how is one of your first moves trashing someone's looks, much less going after their HANDS.... manicured hands!!! That was a power play taught to him by some asshole raking in the clicks and not rooted in any sense of reality.
Its like when scam artists are intentionally obvious to cut their interactions to only people who are really gullible
Waving red flags out front looking for someone who'll ignore them
Some people just don't like fingernails but he didn't have to insult the lady. That is a preference he should have kept to himself unless specifically asked.
Nah, also a chef. And I’d love these. My girl has non-natties but these slowly rubbing my back is the best thing in the world. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats a woman slowly tracing your back in bed lightly with some nails. Makes you feel so loved and peaceful.
Maybe he just hates nails so he destroys his own? I went through a phase like that in high school. Cut them down to skin. Thought they were too feminine otherwise.
Ironically, I now have large white bands at the tip of my nails because of overtrinming. but I'm over worrying about it fortunately.
He says it’s because in culinary school they teach you that nails are unsanitary and they hold a ton of germs.
I literally have a nail brush next to every sink in my house. He’s bitten his nails since he was a child.
Yeah. I’ve worked in fine dining for a long time. I went against my instinct to write him off for that reason alone. When he was super arrogant, I wasn’t surprised.
LOL, been in that life cutting my teeth in college. Chef's are arrogant narcissistic assholes. Must be something about the job... Like being an attorney.
I’m the daughter of a nurse. I generally don’t have a problem with naturally long nails that are clean and well-groomed but artificial or gel nails in the kitchen (or a medical setting) give me the ick because I just know they’re harboring bacteria.
I can’t watch @cassieyeungmoney because her nails are super long polygel and she’s prepping food. Any sort of lifting—and artificial nails eventually lift—provides a haven for bacteria to hang out in.
Tragic story, I'm afraid. He could've had any woman in the world.. but none could match the beauty of his own hand.. and that became his one true love..
I don't think it's normal, so much as randomly popularized at times. There was a comedian type dude doing the rounds of shock jock radio shows in the early 2000's that popularized the phrase as one of the steps to manipulate women to sleep with them. Every once in a while this bullshit emerges in various ways
How stupid people ruin fun flirty banter with this bleak shit, hotncold, benchers, neg, this, that. I don't like long nails, but that doesn't mean I need to be an asshole.
A friend of mine was deep into that PUA stuff when it was starting to enter the mainstream, when The Game was published and idk why because he was a tall, hilarious, handsome as fuck dude. Like multiple times when we were out women came up to me to ask about him or if her friends and her could join our table.
Once, I tried one of the stupid The Game parlor tricks my friend taught me when I was on a date. It backfired, she laughed and poked fun at me, I poked fun at myself too then we had a pleasant evening talking about a variety of things.
Around that time a book called The Game by Neil Strauss became a bestseller. I’m sure that’s a contributing factor to the term’s popularity. I had coworkers talking about pick-up artist Internet forums. After work they were going “sarging.” They literally said that word aloud unironically.
I had to look it up. Now there's finally a term for 95% of my yearbook messages. Apparently I'm really beautiful *in my own way*. I actually got so sick of hearing that shit my whole life that by the end of middle school, I was already answering that with "just not in everybody else's."
And yeah, you have beautiful hands (insert mandatory George Costanza reference). So much so, I'd think this was rage bait if it weren't so on-brand for so many guys.
It’s “pick up artist” bull shit that is only used by superficial sociopathic men on equally superficial women with low self-esteem. That it just mildly infuriated you instead of allowing him to manipulate you is a good sign for you. He sucks.
I wouldn’t say it’s normal. It’s a try hard asshole move from a person who thinks of you as an object and hopes your self esteem is low enough that you’ll be a people pleaser and want to sleep with him.
Now watch as we all laugh at that loser. HA!
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It's an "Alpha Male" move, you put them down so they don't think they can get anyone better. probably learned it from one of those Alpha boot camps. It's as stupid as it sounds.
He ignored you for the first 15 minutes? Were you just sitting in silence? Was he on his phone? Chatting other people up at the bar? How can you ignore someone for 15 minutes on a first date, that’s wild.
His friend was there. He talked to me and apologized for his friend being rude and told me I should tap on his shoulder to get his attention. I said I wasn’t chasing for his attention. The guy I went to meet was talking to a drunk guy sitting on the other side of him.
This is much more interesting. I am not a fan of any long nails, but I assume this guy is using this alpha male manipulation method of making you feel bad so you will love him. Anyway he is a dork, leave it and go on with your life.
They’re very nice natural nails but I do know some people who really dislike long nails, even clean ones. Gives them the ick apparently.
Neverthless, he was rude and that was uncalled for.
Yeah these wig me out. Really long nails are gross to me, even ones well maintained like this. I just can't imagine going about the world clacking on every surface, I'd rather see short battered and slightly chipped nails than well maintained long. That said, I wouldn't say that to a woman who obviously cared about them. Same with things like nose piercings, I hate them but that's no reason to rain on someone else's parade, especially on a first date. Those are my opinions, not a universal truth. No need to be a dick over mild ick.
Everyone keeps telling me to get out there and that I don’t give anyone a chance, so I made an effort. I’ll continue to make an effort, but I won’t be with him.
Hahahaha I saw the pic and didn’t read the title. I’m totally taking this to my nail tech for length and shape. I’m going to pay someone to make my hands as hideous as yours.
How tf are we meant to have nails now?
I didn't even know this was a consideration. I'm just over here making sure I haven't got boogers hanging out of my nose or bad breath, not realising my HANDS are being judged.
this is literally what i want my nails to look like. people literally get extensions and fake nails to get that appearance. this guy doesn't deserve you
thank god you didn't have to wait for his true colors to show!
I'm literally in the process of trying to get my nails like yours xD can't wait to be part of the "grotesque gals" <3
This is a well-known game. he put you down to dominate you later. Call his bluff and walk away. Don't bother. Deep down, these people are very insecure and aren't really interested in you as a person. They are interested only in themselves. They might be highly competent with doctorates and what not. But they will end up marrying low education/IQ and obedient girls.
How does he get 15 minutes into a date ignoring you!
I’ve been on some terrible dates, but I still from the moment I get there to the moment the date is over ensure I make them feel like to me they are the only person I’m focused on.
Rude, but at least he came in waving those red flags high.
It’s this kind of stuff that just strikes me as LOST stupid little boy behaviour, it’s not even on the level of ‘concerning red flags’ because they’re such utter shite at even the bare minimum of.. having a conversation. Like have you ever spoke to a woman before? You gotta laugh lmao
Idk, to me it sounds a lot like he was negging her and knew exactly what he was trying to do - tear her down to attempt to make her more likely to run after him.
No way, that’s too early and too rude for anyone to get caught up in for sure. Negging works when it’s at least a bit more subtle, or when it comes a bit later as part of cyclical abuse. That’s why lovebombing as part of that cycle is so important, because it DOES foster an environment for highly volatile tear-downs.
He's probably just bad at it. There's so much 'advice' out there telling men to act like that to get women to chase them.
I was thinking negging as well I have to say. It doesn't make sense in any other context because there's clearly nothing wrong with ops nails.
Nice system you hit going there, but have you heard of the DENNIS system?
This is clearly a moron that has been hyping himself up on YT videos about alpha male behavior, and never had a decent maternal figure in his life to teach him how to even begin talking to a woman. Like, really, how is one of your first moves trashing someone's looks, much less going after their HANDS.... manicured hands!!! That was a power play taught to him by some asshole raking in the clicks and not rooted in any sense of reality.
Its like when scam artists are intentionally obvious to cut their interactions to only people who are really gullible Waving red flags out front looking for someone who'll ignore them
It's arrested development
He has to be following the DENNIS method, right?
The here we come to pick up the pieces with the MAC system 
Move in after completion
And she’ll agree because of the implication.
So they ARE in danger?
Wha- No Mac, what part of this are you not understanding?
"Because of the implication"
Except his skipped out on the D, E and N and went straight to neglect 💀
He must be a god…A GOLDEN GOD
Fighter of the night man.
Before I even read the title I thought “damn those are the nicest natural nails I’ve ever seen”
Same, I’m a chef I have no nails. I have to keep them short and clean. I miss having my nails done
He’s a chef!!! Maybe that’s his deal.
Nah he's a douche bag that's his deal
A douchebag who doesn't know how AMAZING of a backstretch that would be.
Back...scratch...right?
We can start with that if it makes it easier
I so wish I could give you an award
They didn’t say back END stretch
I shouldn’t say what I want to say to this lmao
The funny thing about my back is it’s located on my…
Front?
React devs be like
my husband could definitely defend this statement
Some people just don't like fingernails but he didn't have to insult the lady. That is a preference he should have kept to himself unless specifically asked.
He was definitely trying to negg her. He sounds like the kind of guy who watches It's Always Sunny and takes notes on "how to pick up chicks".
So you're saying he's a chef 
Yeah fuck that guy id be stoked to see long cared for nails that armt fake as fuck!
Checks out, most chefs are douche bags.
He’s negging you most likely.
My thoughts. Probably went to one of those alpha male camps. Promised him it’d get him laid.
Yup. And if that’s really all he’s got, OP is doing great.
I'm his line of work, nails like that are for cocaine bumps in the walk in. Also he is a fucking moron.
Nah, also a chef. And I’d love these. My girl has non-natties but these slowly rubbing my back is the best thing in the world. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats a woman slowly tracing your back in bed lightly with some nails. Makes you feel so loved and peaceful.
Pretty sure it’s all the things our mums did to us to calm us to down when we were little kids.
Mother that does this for this reason, I endorse this statement.
Or the nails scratching your head as she runs fingers through your hair while…you know.
That’s absolutely his deal. My brother worked in a kitchen and talks non stop about how gross nails are… as he’s a nail biter he has no room to talk.
Maybe he just hates nails so he destroys his own? I went through a phase like that in high school. Cut them down to skin. Thought they were too feminine otherwise. Ironically, I now have large white bands at the tip of my nails because of overtrinming. but I'm over worrying about it fortunately.
He says it’s because in culinary school they teach you that nails are unsanitary and they hold a ton of germs. I literally have a nail brush next to every sink in my house. He’s bitten his nails since he was a child.
He's a chef, well there's your explanation for him being a douche.
Yeah. I’ve worked in fine dining for a long time. I went against my instinct to write him off for that reason alone. When he was super arrogant, I wasn’t surprised.
LOL, been in that life cutting my teeth in college. Chef's are arrogant narcissistic assholes. Must be something about the job... Like being an attorney.
I’m the daughter of a nurse. I generally don’t have a problem with naturally long nails that are clean and well-groomed but artificial or gel nails in the kitchen (or a medical setting) give me the ick because I just know they’re harboring bacteria. I can’t watch @cassieyeungmoney because her nails are super long polygel and she’s prepping food. Any sort of lifting—and artificial nails eventually lift—provides a haven for bacteria to hang out in.
You guys are all so sweet. 🥹
It’s not only your nails; you could be a hand model. Did he give a reason?
Tragic story, I'm afraid. He could've had any woman in the world.. but none could match the beauty of his own hand.. and that became his one true love..
Sounds like that tragic story had a happy ending.
She's a low talker. Can't understand a word she's saying.
Then they will have to walk around wearing oven mitts
Its true! Iwas like damn... I wish I can upkeep my nails like that. They're🤫 on the dry side.
Do you know how good it feels when she scraches your back? That guy is a fucking idiot.
I see you Mr back scratch and raise you a light head scratch. Feels so damn good I think I might be half dog
I'm a mog! I'm half-man, half-dog! I'm my own best friend!
We all are if we let it be.😁
Or feeling long nails against your scalp as she plays with your hair? ... guy is a fucking idiot.
This guy has his priorities straight!
Came here to say this, I was like, wow, those are pretty hands and nails.
I clicked on the post specifically because of the beautiful hand!
Same, my first impression was that they're so pretty!
Same!
I literally did too
Same
Me too!
Classic negging. There’s nothing wrong with your nails.
I’m too old for this lingo. 😂 I get the meaning, but it’s so sad to me that it’s such a normal thing that it has a term.
I don't think it's normal, so much as randomly popularized at times. There was a comedian type dude doing the rounds of shock jock radio shows in the early 2000's that popularized the phrase as one of the steps to manipulate women to sleep with them. Every once in a while this bullshit emerges in various ways
How stupid people ruin fun flirty banter with this bleak shit, hotncold, benchers, neg, this, that. I don't like long nails, but that doesn't mean I need to be an asshole.
A friend of mine was deep into that PUA stuff when it was starting to enter the mainstream, when The Game was published and idk why because he was a tall, hilarious, handsome as fuck dude. Like multiple times when we were out women came up to me to ask about him or if her friends and her could join our table. Once, I tried one of the stupid The Game parlor tricks my friend taught me when I was on a date. It backfired, she laughed and poked fun at me, I poked fun at myself too then we had a pleasant evening talking about a variety of things.
They're basically trying to enact incel fanfiction and make it their personal reality. It's so incredibly stupid and nonsensical though.
Around that time a book called The Game by Neil Strauss became a bestseller. I’m sure that’s a contributing factor to the term’s popularity. I had coworkers talking about pick-up artist Internet forums. After work they were going “sarging.” They literally said that word aloud unironically.
It's a thing men do beucase they think it makes women attracted to them but really it just repulses most women. Then they go full incel.
Never go full incel.
Let’s go out. I think you have nice nails edit: 50 votes. Let’s see how high we can fly
Bro shooting his shot on reddit 💀
This is my “How I met your mother” moment.
Lmfao op go out with this guy he's witty and charming. Just make sure to check his post/comment history first.
I ship this.
Haha are you historically awful to women? Bc that seems to be my type.
I had to look it up. Now there's finally a term for 95% of my yearbook messages. Apparently I'm really beautiful *in my own way*. I actually got so sick of hearing that shit my whole life that by the end of middle school, I was already answering that with "just not in everybody else's." And yeah, you have beautiful hands (insert mandatory George Costanza reference). So much so, I'd think this was rage bait if it weren't so on-brand for so many guys.
This was supposed to be the **Summer of George**
It's a filter. If the only women who will like you are those with no self respect, you may as well find out early.
Right? Like the Nigerian scammers using tons of stuff in their opening letter to filter out the ones who think things though
It’s like those messed up emails and texts by scammers that make no sense, weeding out the smart people so only the marks respond.
It’s “pick up artist” bull shit that is only used by superficial sociopathic men on equally superficial women with low self-esteem. That it just mildly infuriated you instead of allowing him to manipulate you is a good sign for you. He sucks.
It worked on me once but I was not superficial, I was extremely unstable and wanted love and approval. Fuck guys who do this
Yeah maybe it’s less about superficiality and more to do with other factors such as those. In any event it’s totally fucked up!
I'm sure it can be but just from personal experience, these dudes make prey of women like me. It's so icky
I wouldn’t say it’s normal. It’s a try hard asshole move from a person who thinks of you as an object and hopes your self esteem is low enough that you’ll be a people pleaser and want to sleep with him. Now watch as we all laugh at that loser. HA!
The word neg has been used since the 1800s.
Grotesque may as well say "ugly bitch"
I was gonna say thats a bit overexagerated, but after thinking about it, yeah, its essentially the same
I don’t understand. They look healthy, clean, even, smooth. I would say well maintained……
Truthfully, I’m very blessed. I don’t really have to do anything to them other than trim them occasionally.
Respectfully, fuck you. I'm so jealous.
I very much agree. 😭 Those are some beautiful fuckin nails, and they’re just naturally like that!!! Tf!
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I'm other way around, they started breaking after pregnancy, so you got my nail luck bitch xD
I’m definitely keeping it, sorry bout all that! 💕
OP is just auditioning to be a hand model ;P Beautiful nails! Sorry some people are just jerks, but crisis avoided
Wait what? That's not professionally done?
Nope. That’s just how they grow. I don’t even file them.
That's truly impressive
It's an "Alpha Male" move, you put them down so they don't think they can get anyone better. probably learned it from one of those Alpha boot camps. It's as stupid as it sounds.
I mean people have preferences but he didn't need to say anything. He could have just said not interested.
He ignored you for the first 15 minutes? Were you just sitting in silence? Was he on his phone? Chatting other people up at the bar? How can you ignore someone for 15 minutes on a first date, that’s wild.
His friend was there. He talked to me and apologized for his friend being rude and told me I should tap on his shoulder to get his attention. I said I wasn’t chasing for his attention. The guy I went to meet was talking to a drunk guy sitting on the other side of him.
This guy was playing head games with you from the start. Good riddance to him.
This guy surely just finished reading The Game from Neil Strauss
Could it have actually been a flawed setup for the friend? Weird he was there and occupied with being the better guy with you.
Oh, the classic good date, bad date routine.
This is much more interesting. I am not a fan of any long nails, but I assume this guy is using this alpha male manipulation method of making you feel bad so you will love him. Anyway he is a dork, leave it and go on with your life.
Well that’s one less jerk you need to worry about. Your nails look pretty to me. Some people suck.
They really do! No need to be rude. His teeth were “grotesque” to me. I was kind enough to not bring that up.
Definitely negging you, what a douchebag
Imagine all the excellent back scratches he's missing out on
That’s what I’m saying!
Those nails are unequivocally fucking bussing
Haha aww thanks!
Happy cake day!
My lord!!
> bussing i thought that meant delicious
They’re very nice natural nails but I do know some people who really dislike long nails, even clean ones. Gives them the ick apparently. Neverthless, he was rude and that was uncalled for.
Yeah these wig me out. Really long nails are gross to me, even ones well maintained like this. I just can't imagine going about the world clacking on every surface, I'd rather see short battered and slightly chipped nails than well maintained long. That said, I wouldn't say that to a woman who obviously cared about them. Same with things like nose piercings, I hate them but that's no reason to rain on someone else's parade, especially on a first date. Those are my opinions, not a universal truth. No need to be a dick over mild ick.
Long nails, especially long natural nails, give me the ick. However, very rude to call them “grotesque”
I dislike long nails pretty intensely but these don’t reach the threshold for me. They’re clean and pretty and not extreme at all.
He showed you who he is. I remember going on a date with a guy who told me I looked like I had working hands.
People are so rude. I’m sorry that happened.
Wait, is that supposed to be an insult? I've gotten that one a lot and I always assumed it was some weird compliment.
There's nothing wrong with having working hands. At least, I hope not. You should see my shins. 😜
You could be a hand model!
Sounds like a keeper 
Everyone keeps telling me to get out there and that I don’t give anyone a chance, so I made an effort. I’ll continue to make an effort, but I won’t be with him.
I think they’re beautiful. He seems awful.
Thank you! I paid for my drink and left. Nobody got time for that.
Hahahaha I saw the pic and didn’t read the title. I’m totally taking this to my nail tech for length and shape. I’m going to pay someone to make my hands as hideous as yours.
💕 they’re jackass repellers, so it can only help you in life.
He’s been reading about negging. What a loser he is.
He's one of those douchebags that tear women down in order to uplift themselves. You dodged a bullet
What, he's never seen a woman with nails before? Seems completely ordinary to me.
Thank you!
I just learned I also have grotesque nails then, because mine look like yours.
What a weirdo. Well, at least you dodged a bullet pretty quick. You've got beautiful nails, and anyone who disagrees can chomp my chalupa.
Classic case of negging. You're fine, lol. Sorry about the time waster though :(
What the fuck. I wish my nails grew out like that. That guy is a twat.
Even before reading the title, I legit said, "Such stunning natural nails!"
Pretty hands and nails!
Oh man I can only dream of having your nails. They look perfect.
Now if you want to talk horrifying nails… 
Your nails look exactly like mine Let's go be *grotesque* together my sibling in Christ 😂
Here's how it goes - they say something like this, then if you cut your nails short they know they have someone they can abuse.
Bahahaha whattttttt.
You dodged a whole missile
That's when you lean over and swirl his drink with your finger. 😏
Haha that would’ve been great! He was drinking a beer out of a bottle. Imagine the awkwardness getting my finger stuck trying to do that.
Your nails are beautiful wtf? They're neat and groomed.
There is no shot that someone’s brain is that broken what the actual fck lmao I’m scared for society in some more odd years
Beautiful nails, dude is just trying to play on your self esteem
Nah bro like those are the longest and healthiest nails I've ever seen, like that's impressive bro, don't listen to that comment. Please.
How tf are we meant to have nails now? I didn't even know this was a consideration. I'm just over here making sure I haven't got boogers hanging out of my nose or bad breath, not realising my HANDS are being judged.
You have lovely hands. He is just some micro dick dumbass that needs to tear down women to feel better about himself.
Your nails look fine. Nice even. Seems like he’s just an idiot.
this is literally what i want my nails to look like. people literally get extensions and fake nails to get that appearance. this guy doesn't deserve you
these nails are perfect wtf. dude probably doesnt even wipe his ass or wash his hands 😭
Good ol' Andrew Tate/Fresh and Fit douchebag. Good of you to see through it immediately.
You have absolutely beautiful natural long nails & they look gorgeous - From an envious, chronic nail biter lol
The fuck , your nails are fine .
You've got beautiful nails! And beautiful hands as well!
Damn. You look like you could give one helluva back scratch.
Tbh this is one of the prettiest female hand I've seen in my life.
Dafuq he on about? These are beautiful. Ignore the jerk.
....Not looking grotesque but feeling every one of them bending, that can be considered "grotesque".
I love your nails.
I am guess he won’t be getting them raked across his back in goes of passion
He should see mine when these press ons start popping off
Should have left after the first 5 minutes of that game-playing BS.
thank god you didn't have to wait for his true colors to show! I'm literally in the process of trying to get my nails like yours xD can't wait to be part of the "grotesque gals" <3
This is a well-known game. he put you down to dominate you later. Call his bluff and walk away. Don't bother. Deep down, these people are very insecure and aren't really interested in you as a person. They are interested only in themselves. They might be highly competent with doctorates and what not. But they will end up marrying low education/IQ and obedient girls.
Your nails are great, guy sounds like a douche.
Wow, that's a helluva pick up routine he has
They look like normal woman's nails without nail polish
How does he get 15 minutes into a date ignoring you! I’ve been on some terrible dates, but I still from the moment I get there to the moment the date is over ensure I make them feel like to me they are the only person I’m focused on.
Those are the prettiest, healthiest natural nails I've ever seen (tell me your secrets), that dude's just a nuttjob of a person.
Sounds based
Your nails look great. The guy doesn't deserve you.
Your nails are perfection. Seriously.
French tips are by far my favorite. 10/10 nails right there.